There is no Christianity without the Cross of Christ.Throughout History every where Christians went from China to Peru to Ethiopia to India Christians have always been heavily addicted to Prominently displaying the Cross of Christ’s Cruxifiction on their Church buildings at the Church altar and even on the walls . In fact Christians Historically Preferred to have a Cross and no building to having a building with no Cross of Christ displayed .
Has anyone seen where Dunamis Glory Dome Building has Prominently displayed the Cross of Christ yet?

Pointless question

Actually there's a cross somewhere around the place.

Anyway Pentecostalism doesn't really believe that a cathedral is sacred. Reason why many of them even use cinema houses or events centers as worship places, something the anglicans, methodist and catholics wouldn't do.

HigherEd:
Actually there's a cross somewhere around the place.

Anyway Pentecostalism doesn't really believe that a cathedral is sacred. Reason why many of them even use cinema houses or events centers as worship places, something the anglicans, methodist and catholics wouldn't do.

There is at least supposed to be a Cross displayed at the Altar whatever building they use Christianity can never dispense with the Cross.

The reason being that , it would amount to idolatry .

enilove:
The reason being that , it would amount to idolatry .

But they are very happy to display the Images of the Senior pastor and his wife everywhere ,isn’t that Idolatry?
The Cross of Christ symbolises the Saviours death and resurrection. The love of money is Idolatry.
Look at this poster for example the name of Jesus is not mentioned once but Dr Paul Enenche and his wife are mentioned and Financial open doors is mentioned is that more important than Christ’s Cross?

HigherEd:
Actually there's a cross somewhere around the place.

Anyway Pentecostalism doesn't really believe that a cathedral is sacred. Reason why many of them even use cinema houses or events centers as worship places, something the anglicans, methodist and catholics wouldn't do.

That’s the point the Cross has been relegated and replaced with images of the Senior Pastor and his wife. A place built specifically for Christian Worship must display a Cross. It should not be hard work finding a Cross inside a Church.

Christistruth00:


But they are very happy to display the Images of the Senior pastor and his wife everywhere ,isn’t that Idolatry?
The Cross of Christ symbolises the Saviours death and resurrection. The love of money is Idolatry.
Look at this poster for example the name of Jesus is not mentioned once but Dr Paul Enenche and his wife are mentioned and Financial open doors is mentioned is that more important than Christ’s Cross?

The display of the images of the Senior pastor and his wife everywhere around or within the church is worse and equally idolatrous .

If You have nothing better to do, go and Watch Porn .....Mtcheeew



You idiots will always look for fault where there is none :\

Go and build your own church, and put plenty cross inside it

There is a cross in front of the church...and please there is no picture of the pastor on the church on anywhere. Why are you spending time to criticise instead using it for something better.

MonStah37:
If You have nothing better to do, go and Watch Porn .....Mtcheeew




You idiots will always look for fault where there is none :\

Are those the type of things you Watch? This thread is about the Cross of Christ.

enilove:



The display of the images of the Senior pastor and his wife everywhere around or within the church is worse and equally idolatrous .

haaa! Humans sha. Where did u see moulded images of the pastors? They only put their pictures on handbills and posters of events and conferences. Why not get a picture of where in the church the senior pastor's image was placed if it's not a poster for an event

Christistruth00:


But they are very happy to display the Images of the Senior pastor and his wife everywhere ,isn’t that Idolatry?
The Cross of Christ symbolises the Saviours death and resurrection. The love of money is Idolatry.
Look at this poster for example the name of Jesus is not mentioned once but Dr Paul Enenche and his wife are mentioned and Financial open doors is mentioned is that more important than Christ’s Cross?

You're supposed to carry the cross of Christ in your heart... not on the building. As for the pictures. Christ is already at work in them; and their followers know that. Besides, having the "picture of Christ" there will be unscriptural.

Christistruth00:
There is no Christianity without the Cross of Christ.Throughout History every where Christians went from China to Peru to Ethiopia to India Christians have always been heavily addicted to Prominently displaying the Cross of Christ’s Cruxifiction on their Church buildings at the Church altar and even on the walls . In fact Christians Historically Preferred to have a Cross and no building to having a building with no Cross of Christ displayed .
Has anyone seen where Dunamis Glory Dome Building has Prominently displayed the Cross of Christ yet?

a very stupid question from a dumbass ignoramus looking for a way to always ridicule someone's belief.
Christians prefer to have a Cross to building? Damn
FYI it's not A Catholic Church but a Pentecostal one, same God but some varying belief. You can form another one that suits you.
In the former church in Area 1 there was no Cross anywhere, why didn't you tell us that time? None sense!
Anyways, there's a cross sign somewhere there at a pool or something. Here's the image, can you now show me the carved or moulded images of the pastor in the premise?

InansBobo:
a very stupid question from a dumbass ignoramus looking for a way to always ridicule someone's belief.
Christians prefer to have a Cross to building? Damn
FYI it's not A Catholic Church but a Pentecostal one, same God but some varying belief. You can form another one that suits you.
In the former church in Area 1 there was no Cross anywhere, why didn't you tell us that time? None sense!
Anyways, there's a cross sign somewhere there at a pool or something. Here's the image, can you now show me the carved or moulded images of the pastor in the premise?

Every true Church gives the Cross of Christ pre eminence. ( No Christian is ashamed of Christ’s Cross, it symbolises his Salvation) From your language it is already obvious you don’t believe in Christ’s teachings.
A photo is an image and no mention of Jesus Christ on a Church’s Flyer is apostasy. . Read your bible and don’t be deceived.
Only fake Pastors and teachers are ashamed of the Cross. When true Christians see the Cross they see Christ’s Glorious Salvation message.

1 Cor 1 .18

18 For the message of the cross is foolishness(A) to those who are perishing,(B) but to us who are being saved(C) it is the power of God.(D)

Christistruth00:

Every true Church gives the Cross of Christ pre eminence. ( No Christian is ashamed of Christ’s Cross, it symbolises his Salvation) From your language it is already obvious you don’t believe in Christ’s teachings.
A photo is an image and no mention of Jesus Christ on a Church’s Flyer is apostasy. . Read your bible and don’t be deceived.
Only fake Pastors and teachers are ashamed of the Cross. When true Christians see the Cross they see Christ’s Glorious Salvation message.

1 Cor 1 .18

18 For the message of the cross is foolishness(A) to those who are perishing,(B) but to us who are being saved(C) it is the power of God.(D)

am sorry to say this, but you lack understanding of these things. The message of the cross is more than and different from the cross sign. The message of the cross is simply SALVATION; which is preached and deliberated upon every single service in Dunamis.
I have already showed you a cross sign in the premise.

How can you take a handbill of a particular program and since the word(name) JESUS didn't appear, you began to criticize? You haven't been to the premise before and you came to the conclusion that there's nothing like J E S U S there. Well, you just saw a handbill for a program(held by a branch of the church and not even the HQ yet) and the theme was given, the name of the church also and the ministers and the program schedule so what's making you to pick offence here now.
just to let you know,
every of the church's programme/convention's advert or handbill ends with the sentence: JESUS IS LORD. If you're using adverts to baselesly criticize

InansBobo:
am sorry to say this, but you lack understanding of these things. The message of the cross is more than and different from the cross sign. The message of the cross is simply SALVATION; which is preached and deliberated upon every single service in Dunamis.
I have already showed you a cross sign in the premise.

How can you take a handbill of a particular program and since the word(name) JESUS didn't appear, you began to criticize? You haven't been to the premise before and you came to the conclusion that there's nothing like J E S U S there. Well, you just saw a handbill for a program(held by a branch of the church and not even the HQ yet) and the theme was given, the name of the church also and the ministers and the program schedule so what's making you to pick offence here now.
just to let you know,
every of the church's programme/convention's advert or handbill ends with the sentence: JESUS IS LORD. If you're using adverts to baselesly criticize

Did you read the 4th sentence of the reply which said “When true Christians see the Cross they see Christ’s Glorious Salvation message.”? Or is it a matter of lack of understanding on your part?

Christistruth00:


Did you read the 4th sentence of the reply which said “When true Christians see the Cross they see Christ’s Glorious Salvation message.”? Or is it a matter of lack of understanding on your part?

I'm a Christian and that's not what reminds me of the Salvation of Christ.

How about the cross I earlier showed you? You ain't saying nothing about it

Christistruth00:
There is no Christianity without the Cross of Christ.Throughout History every where Christians went from China to Peru to Ethiopia to India Christians have always been heavily addicted to Prominently displaying the Cross of Christ’s Cruxifiction on their Church buildings at the Church altar and even on the walls . In fact Christians Historically Preferred to have a Cross and no building to having a building with no Cross of Christ displayed .
Has anyone seen where Dunamis Glory Dome Building has Prominently displayed the Cross of Christ yet?

The cross is actually a pagan symbol associated with fertility, life and in some cases intercourse.

HigherEd:
Actually there's a cross somewhere around the place.

Anyway Pentecostalism doesn't really believe that a cathedral is sacred. Reason why many of them even use cinema houses or events centers as worship places, something the anglicans, methodist and catholics wouldn't do.

Yes dear. We don't ascribe to symbols. We are the Church, not the building.

Christistruth00:


There is at least supposed to be a Cross displayed at the Altar whatever building they use Christianity can never dispense with the Cross.

Deut. 4:15-19
Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the LORD spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire:

Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a D image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female,

The likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged fowl that flieth in the air,

The likeness of any thing that creepeth on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth:

And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.

Pentecostals follow the Bible only.

Anas09:


Deut. 4:15-19
Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the LORD spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire:

Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a D image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female,

The likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged fowl that flieth in the air.

And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.

Pentecostals follow the Bible only.

Exodus 25. 17:22
17 “You shall (E)make a [h]mercy seat of pure gold, two and a half [i]cubits [j]long and one and a half cubits [k]wide. 18 You shall make two cherubim of gold, make them of hammered work [l]at the two ends of the mercy seat. 19 Make one cherub [m]at one end and one cherub [n]at the other end; you shall make the cherubim of one piece with the mercy seat at its two ends. 20 (F)The cherubim shall have their wings spread upward, covering the mercy seat with their wings and [o]facing one another; the faces of the cherubim are to be turned toward the mercy seat. 21 (G)You shall put the mercy seat [p]on top of the ark, and (H)in the ark you shall put the testimony which I will give to you. 22 (I)There I will meet with you; and from above the mercy seat, from (J)between the two cherubim which are upon the ark of the testimony, I will speak to you about all that I will give you in commandment for the sons of Israel.

John 3:13-15 New International Version (NIV)

13 No one has ever gone into heaven(A) except the one who came from heaven(B)—the Son of Man.[a](C) 14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness,(D) so the Son of Man must be lifted up,[b](E) 15 that everyone who believes(F) may have eternal life in him.”[c](G)

Numbers 21:9

So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.

kingvicky:


The cross is actually a pagan symbol associated with fertility, life and in some cases intercourse.

Since Christ’s Cruxifiction the Cross is the Symbol of Christ’s Salvation all over the Earth and his enemies hate seeing it because it reminds them of the absolute Dominion and Lordship of Christ. Hence some fake Pastors prefer putting their own photographs on Church banners posters flyers and T.V adverts instead of the symbol of the Cross.

Christistruth00:


Exodus 25. 17:22
17 “You shall (E)make a [h]mercy seat of pure gold, two and a half [i]cubits [j]long and one and a half cubits [k]wide. 18 You shall make two cherubim of gold, make them of hammered work [l]at the two ends of the mercy seat. 19 Make one cherub [m]at one end and one cherub [n]at the other end; you shall make the cherubim of one piece with the mercy seat at its two ends. 20 (F)The cherubim shall have their wings spread upward, covering the mercy seat with their wings and [o]facing one another; the faces of the cherubim are to be turned toward the mercy seat. 21 (G)You shall put the mercy seat [p]on top of the ark, and (H)in the ark you shall put the testimony which I will give to you. 22 (I)There I will meet with you; and from above the mercy seat, from (J)between the two cherubim which are upon the ark of the testimony, I will speak to you about all that I will give you in commandment for the sons of Israel.

John 3:13-15 New International Version (NIV)

13 No one has ever gone into heaven(A) except the one who came from heaven(B)—the Son of Man.[a](C) 14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness,(D) so the Son of Man must be lifted up,[b](E) 15 that everyone who believes(F) may have eternal life in him.”[c](G)

Numbers 21:9

So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.

This is how you justify your idol worship Okwaya? Continue.

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Anas09:

This is how you justify your idol worship Okwaya? Continue.

The message of the Cross as symbol of Christ’s Salvation is very scriptural.Christians are not worshipping a piece of wood when we see the Cross We preach and worship Christ who died on the Cross for our sins.

Christistruth00:
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The message of the Cross as symbol of Christ’s Salvation is very scriptural.Christians are not worshipping a piece of wood when we see the Cross We preach and worship Christ who died on the Cross for our sins.

The cross is not scriptural.
In fact the cross was a symbol of punishment of criminals in ancient Rome. It was a symbol of treason against ancient Rome.
The cross became a symbol of Christianity through Emperess Helena(also called Saint Helena) who was the mother of Emperor Constantine.
After the Romans officially adopted Christianity as the official religion of State Helena with approval of Constantine embarked on a journey to Palestine and Jerusalem to locate the cross on which Christ was said to have been crucified.
It was she who was said to have discovered a part of the original cross thus enabling the Romans to elevate the cross as an official symbol of Christianity and a symbol of salvation.
So Emperor Constantine and his mother Empress Helena should be credited with establishing the cross as a symbol of salvation for Christianity.




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Dantedasz:


The cross is not scriptural.
In fact the cross was a symbol of punishment of criminals in ancient Rome. It was a symbol of treason against ancient Rome.
The cross became a symbol of Christianity through Emperess Helena(also called Saint Helena) who was the mother of Emperor Constantine.
After the Romans officially adopted Christianity as the official religion of State Helena with approval of Constantine embarked on a journey to Palestine and Jerusalem to locate the cross on which Christ was said to have been crucified.
It was she who was said to have discovered a part of the original cross thus enabling the Romans to elevate the cross as an official symbol of Christianity and a symbol of salvation.
So Emperor Constantine and his mother Empress Helena should be credited with establishing the cross as a symbol of salvation for Christianity.




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Even the Eastern Orthodox,Ethiopian,Egyptian Coptic,(Doubting Thomas)Indian Churches that were not part of the Roman Church use the Cross as the Symbol of Christ’s Salvation.
It is the photos of the Pastor and his wife with no reference to Jesus or the Cross that are unscriptural. Christ died on the Cross! Christ nailed our Sins to the Cross. Christ purchased our Salvation on the Cross!!!!!

Col 2. 13 to 15 .

13 When you were dead in your sins(X) and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you[d] alive(Y) with Christ. He forgave us all our sins,(Z) 14 having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness,(AA) which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross.(AB) 15 And having disarmed the powers and authorities,(AC) he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them(AD) by the cross.[e]


1 Corinthians 1:18
“For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.”


It was on the Cross that Jesus set us free !!! Don’t you get too intellectual to forget that Christ sealed the deal of mankind’s Salvation on the Cross.

What do they teach you in Church these days?

All the new age mega churches that spring out of Redeem, Winners, etc does not use cross, Fir reasons best known to the Grand-pastor.

Christistruth00:
There is no Christianity without the Cross of Christ.Throughout History every where Christians went from China to Peru to Ethiopia to India Christians have always been heavily addicted to Prominently displaying the Cross of Christ’s Cruxifiction on their Church buildings at the Church altar and even on the walls . In fact Christians Historically Preferred to have a Cross and no building to having a building with no Cross of Christ displayed .
Has anyone seen where Dunamis Glory Dome Building has Prominently displayed the Cross of Christ yet?

Go and put one by yourself

Christistruth00:
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The message of the Cross as symbol of Christ’s Salvation is very scriptural.Christians are not worshipping a piece of wood when we see the Cross We preach and worship Christ who died on the Cross for our sins.

Can you make a single reference to an instance in which the early church in the days of the apostles used the cross as a Christian symbol?

The image of the cross was introduced through Roman Catholicism which worships images.

However, the presence or the absence of a cross in a church premise or anywhere does not imply anything. It all depends on the intents of the actors.

If you erect a cross as a symbol of worship, you ere. If you erect it as a reminder of Christ's ultimate sacrifice for salvation, you do nothing nothing wrong.

If you do not erect it because you think the cross is useless to the Christian faith, you ere. If you don't erect it because you want to avoid idolatery, given that the risen Christ Himself lives in your heart, you've done nothing wrong. Intent is the most important thing.