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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:22pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
Actually if we include our political class - the list of black billionaires would be so long. Maybe Sani Abacha stole that much - but Kenyattas have had 25yrs and Moi's 24yrs of stealing. Their list of wealth is so long - in nearly all sectors - in so many countries - we need so many pages here. They cannot be listed by forbes because their wealth is stained by corrupt allegations. These are real wealth - no paper wealth in valuation at stock exchanges. 1) Mama Ngina Kenyatta - Arguably one of richest woman in earth - I don't think Dangote can smell the wealth of kenyattas. 2) Daniel Moi - similarly Dangote cannot smell the wealth of Mois. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:32pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
mtisTheQubit: Poor but not as poor as Kenya. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:33pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
68816419:i told you know nothing about kenya you dont argue with facts you like throwing around words Kenya welcomes anyone to invest you just need to meet requirements dangote didnot meet requirements ?? and it is not a must dangote invests in kenya |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:34pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
rvp20183: Poor!. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:38pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
rvp20183:Kenya richest people are politicians people like nicholas biwott kenyattas and mois koinanges looted kenya dry |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:42pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
This is also true for Nigerians. They do not lot taxes(there is none to loot). They mostly got oil blocks allocated to them or their proxies. Dangote basically got a monopoly to import cement, sugar and such stuff for many years...he eventually became a manufacturer. tlann: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:43pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
Dangote has paper money - valuation - Mois and Kenyattas - have real wealth - most of their companies are not even listed. Maybe Sani Abacha loot at Swiss was bigger...but the guys who depend on valuations and debt financing like Dangote have got nothing on these guys. The ongoing Northland city - is owned by Kenyattas. Kenyatta land holding in Nairobi alone is more than 10,000 acres I think. That is Nairobi where an acre at mimum will cost you 1M dollars. . This is just part of their land - Northland City. The 11,576-acre piece of land is located 15 km from the Nairobi city centre. If you assume 1acre is 1M dollars ..that tell you from just that part of the city - Kenyatta wealth is11.67B dollars! If you factor their land holdings in other part of Nairobi. Then you go to Nairobi metro. I mean just from land alone in Nairobi Metro - they'd ran some many circle - real circle - on Dangote. You haven't factored the land outside Nairobi Metro - another 150,000 acres. That is just LAND. We have Not talked about companies. Brookside - now arguably largest dairy company in Africa - was few years ago valued at 400M - I bet now it exceed 1B dollars. And they are so many other companies.... Estimated to host 250,000 people, Northlands City has 3,570 acres set aside for residential housing including low density residential (3,134 acres), high density residential (306 acres) and medium density residential (130 acres). forgiveness: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 2:45pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
rvp20183:You have no shame? You're dreaming of competing Nairobi with Joburg in the next 22 years? While Lagos will competing with Dubai in the next 4 years see how foolish you're 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 2:46pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
tlann:What requirements if i may ask ? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 2:50pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
genieluv: Yeah, it was not solely on beauty. Thank you. What I was telling you is, a single Miss World doesn't make you the most beautiful women in the world. For heaven's sake a transgender is on way to win a beauty pageant. The fact that every Nigerian speaks of this woman from 2001 tells the state of beauty in that country. Your beauty queen (who even knows her name ) wouldn't win an Oscar either. This Lupita you keep dissing won the most beautiful woman in the world award in 2014. Not 2001. If we were like Nigerians we would be quoting that 50 years from now.
1. Do you even know the meaning of Habesha? 2. 98% of Ethiopians are cushites and they're all gorgeous. So what are you talking about? 3. I'm talking of the average Nigerian. The average Nigerian is what I described. Why do you people love picking the tiny minorities that are doing well in particular field when comparing Nigeria yet pic the whole or the worst for other countries? Economically, you want us to compare southern Nigeria to the whole of Kenya, in beauty, you choose Northern Nigeria again to the whole of Kenya.
Lupita is not even anywhere close to endowed by Kenyan standards. She however has that hourglass shape. If you want to see endowed women in Kenya ask me and I'll give you photos. 2. If Yemi Alade and Tiwa Savage are the definition of endowed in Nigeria then I pity you.
Of course Corazon is more endowed than Lupita. I told you in terms of endowment, Lupita is below the Kenyan average.
Now, that's the problem with you Nigerians, you start a topic, you realize you can't handle it, you jump to the next. Are we talking of bodies or whoever those women date? Is Chimamanda Adichie married to a black man? Does it mean Nigerian men can't handia real African woman? Some of your arguments are just absurd.
As usual, Nigerians digging negative stories about Kenya and filling them on their social media. No wonder you guys have some interesting stereotypes about other Africans. Once more, stop drifting from the main topic. Just because we don't go digging about Nigerian women online doesn't mean they don't date white men. I gave you Chimamanda for instance. Remember Europe is full of Nigerian women prostituting. Once again, you're arguing out of anger instead of facts. That's why you keep drifting and attacking personal life's of Kenyan women that I mentione. Maybe you think I wouldn't find negative stories about Tiwa if I dug. Which other group? We don't care. We just live our lives. The woman you fall in love with is the woman you marry. We don't have low self esteem like Nigerians trying to prove a point. Dude lives like a dog but goes into a club and throws away his few coins to women just to make some stupid point. What do you mean by local? You've gotten so angry you don't even know what you're speaking about.
Like I said, unlike your men, we are not in competition. We don't idolize anyone. Do we have to marry Habesha women to prove a point? No. Would I marry a Habesha woman? I don't choose, as long as a woman is beautiful and smart. Anyway, I would love to know, you boast how your men marry other Africans yet say your women don't marry other African. Is it because your men hate you so much they have to throw their nets outside or you're just undesirable to other African men? Can you show me 10 Kenyan + Habesha marriages of note? (Pls don't show me those of Oromo Kenyan and Oromo Ethiopian or Somali Kenyan/ Somali ethiopian. I mean pure Kenyan Bantu/Nilotes and Habesha women).***** What's wrong with this woman. Do we have to marry Habesha women to prove a point? Why are you so full of inferiority complex? How did Habesha even get into this discussion?
It seems that was an extremely big honour to you, Bien marrying a Nigerian girl. You can't stop quoting him. It's understandable though, your women are not known to date celebrities outside Nigeria, Nigerian men don't even want them. It's also interesting how you claim Nigerian women view other African men as not good enough then celebrate when a Nigerian woman dates a Kenyan man. It confirms what I said, you only don't date outside because of lack of opportunity. Btw, Bien took the cream of Nigerian women. She looks gorgeous in comparison to the average Nigerian celebrity. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:53pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
There is delusion and then Eko city delusion. Eko City even when completed in 2050 - will not even rival Kenya OLD CBD. Dubai used their oil money well - and you're delusional. jaycent: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 2:58pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
mtisTheQubit:how about this?
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 3:07pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
rvp20183:CBD CBD CBD all the time ? Only the old Lagos is still more developed than Nairobi, not to talk of eko something that will finish 4 years and be like Dubai , Lagos will never stooped so low to compare her self with Nairobi go and compare your Nairobi with Joburg not Lagos, Lagos has reach the level of Dubai not any city in Africa? Buahahahaha |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:11pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
It a slowly day so let me respond to the resident idiot. You can even aim for New York & Tokyo - why settle for Dubai in your dreamworld - but 4yrs from now - you'll have two desolate towers. Eko in started in 2008/2009 - and now it mere two towers completed. When this thread started 2yrs ago - it was still 2 towers - and in 4yrs - we will still be talking 2 or 4 towers completed. And note Eko City is very tiny - 5kms squared. And 2yrs ago - This one Chinese investor had not started his SIX TOWERS in westland Nairobi - and now they are soon to be complete and occupied. City just doesn't become DUBAI or JOBURG - you need to attract companies that will occupy those towers - and that is what Nairobi is doing - attracting global multinationals. jaycent: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:15pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
68816419:dangote wanted to dominate kenyan cement sector and he was told that cant happen he went away crying kenya is corrupt |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 3:16pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
rvp20183: It seems you thought Dangote became richest man because of cement. The refinery he is building is enough to buy all the lands in Nairobi and still collect change. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:18pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
He is leveraged to the gills. He has borrowed 4.5B dollars from 12 Nigerian banks to build it the refinery - with it's doubtful ROI. This will be another TOMATO PLANT . He has borrowed 6.7B dollars to finance tomato, refinery, fertilzer and god knows what. He has no real wealth. He is paper tiger. The Kenyatta owns real wealth - including banks. forgiveness: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 3:22pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
tlann:Was that the requirements? , Do you prefer Arabs, white and Indians to dominate your country or Black Africans like Dangote ? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 3:25pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
rvp20183:Say what you want to about eko, perception is different from reality. All these pictures are from 2017/2018. It clearly shows more than TWO towers You are free to post pictures of your konza city 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 3:25pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
rvp20183:What about your Konza city 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:26pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
There was no requirement. He is free to come and set up shop. But he wanted Kenya to do the impossible.He got used to banana republics like TZ or Ethiopia. So he wanted FREE LAND. He wanted 10YR TAX HOLIDAY. He wanted FREE COAL. Kenya never does that for anybody. There are so many cement or other companies - Dangote cannot succeed in a functioning nation like kenya. What he does is to secure monopolistic & unfair advantages like he got used to in Nigeria - with promise of huge investments - then try to hammer the competitors in the first few years by reducing the prices beyond cost of production - grab market share - and then raise prices. That is JUNGLE Business that works in a zoo. His game is well known. I hope the Omani guys buy ARM instead. Kenya is not a banana republic where you go see a minister or president before investing...you fly in, buy or lease land, ship in equipments and start sellig cement. You never need to see anyone. You just need lawyers to help navigate legal issues. 68816419: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:30pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
68816419:you live in delusion one question what do arabs dominate in kenya ?? What do indians dominate in kenya what do whites dominate in kenya ?? and who owns eko atlantic and even if dangote is black should kenya allow him to dominate our cement sector because he is black |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:34pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
You're talking six desolate towers - that are probably un-occupied. Yeah it similar to Konza city (1 tower now). It far behind Tatu City & Northland City. Look at Nairobi - new CBD - Westland and Upperhill - that didn't exist when Eko City started. The picture doesn't include OLD CBD. Majority of those high rises have been building the last decade - and lot more are underway - the same period Eko City started. Ibrahimanis: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 3:35pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
rvp20183:Do Kenyans even know Abdul Samad Rabiu? This guy is a better replacement of Dangote, he produces every thing Dangotes produce, his companies (BUA Group) are all across Africa countries, Abdul Samad Isyaku Rabiu CON (born 4 August 1960, Kano Nigeria) is a Nigerian businessman. His father, late Khalifah Isyaku Rabiu was one of Nigeria's foremost industrialists in the 1970s and 1980s. Abdul Samad is the founder and chairman of BUA Group, a Nigerian conglomerate with interests in manufacturing, infrastructure and agriculture with a revenue in excess of $2.5 billion. He is also the chairman of Nigerian Bank of Industry. In 2013, Forbes estimated Abdul Samad's wealth at $1.2 billion, bringing him to the global billionaire's club.[1]
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 3:36pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
rvp20183: It seems you thought Dangote became richest man because of cement. The refinery he is building is enough to buy all the lands in Nairobi and still collect change. I am not talking about the flour mill industry, cement industry, fruit juice industry, Noddles, construction company, fertilizer plant, petrochemical plant etc You should have known, Dangote is also into real estate but you are here talking about one chewing gum lands in Nairobi. Bhuhahahaha! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PROVERBZ(m): 3:37pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
rvp20183:stop all this crap if dangotes company isn't in Kenya its because Kenyans don't build houses they live in hots dangotes cement is in Zambia south Africa Ghana then what does he need Kenya for?? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 3:38pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
rvp20183: that picture summarizes what Nairobi is, The only 1% developed part of Nairobi, |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 3:38pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
rvp20183:Which dirty Konza Konza we don die since 10years |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 3:38pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
rvp20183: Post pictures of Kenzo city with one room and parlor structure. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 3:42pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
rvp20183:It's not a planned city though, many high rises have been built in since eko started. Show us pictures of progress made in northland city. And your president is building a city of sh500billion while STILL IN OFFICE and you are cheering him on. Un.fvcking.believable. No wonder Kenya ranked so low on corruption perception index. Nigeria is corrupt, yes, but at least we don't sit and fold our hands. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:43pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
Maybe. We don't build houses. We build homes. PROVERBZ: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 3:43pm On Dec 13, 2018 |
68816419:I swear only 1% ; the rest are slums |
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