Ibime:


With or without award, CL or World Cup, Ronaldo was greater than Henry and Nistelrooy. Your CL and WC criteria is even more porous than Award criteria.

Ronaldos awards were more than deserved, not fake award like Luka Modric who only won cos of Ronaldo rãpe case.




Award criteria can never place Modric over Xavi as Modric never placed above Xavi when they both played at the top.

If a rat decide to beat his chest after the cats have left, it will never make the rat greater than the cat.

Melvyn11:


There is serious overrating of Xavi individually on this forum. Both Xavi and Iniesta were very important parts of a machine-like system both in Barcelona & Spanish NT and that made them look like untouchable. That doesn't mean they were better individuals than Modric though. And the fact that both were not seen as world beaters until 2008 when Barcelona & Spain's domination began proves my point. I can somewhat understand Iniesta as he had some aspects to his game where he was better than Modric like better close control, better dribbling etc. but Modric is better than/or at least on par with Xavi in all aspects of the game.

DExponential:
If only Robben had scored a 'non-open play' CL goal in 2012.

Ibime:


Shutup, you don't know football. Modric was chased out of AM position at Spurs by Rafael Van Der Vaart.

Xavi provided 50% of the assists in knockout stages for Spain's Euro 2008, World Cup 2010 and Euro 2012 victory, unlike others who dribbled through with zero end product and only got lucky in the final.

Melvyn11:

Lol Xavi that was riding bench behind Van Bommel and Deco . if not for deco reoccuring injuries Xavi would probably had stayed a few more seasons at the bench. Stop being clueless xavi was great yes but saying modric is not up to par or even better is sheer delusion. Modric has more in his locker then Xavi ever had.

chic2pimp:
To be Honest, I think many of you are simply just arguing because it's Dayo on the Hot seat. Whilst I might not agree with Him, He has always made the criteria He uses to judge players pretty clear. Performances in Big games sits right at the top. By going by this Criteria, You can see why He'd choose a player like Klose over Ibra.

raumdeuter:


Oliver Kahn won the CL as the best player in the final
Oliver Kahn got to the world cup final where he was the best player of the tournament

In both tournaments made so many games in crucial moments to deliver for his team

So can you tell us the Barthez equivalents of these big moments

Melvyn11:

[s]Lol Xavi that was riding bench behind Van Bommel and Deco . if not for deco reoccuring injuries Xavi would probably had stayed a few more seasons at the bench. Stop being clueless xavi was great yes [/s] but saying modric is not up to par or even better is sheer delusion. Modric has more in his locker then Xavi ever had.

Ibime:


Modric failed as an Attacking midfielder and had Rafael Van Der Vaart drafted in to do his job. If Modric is so great, he should tell us why the mere absence of Ronaldo turned his team into Real Sociedad of LaLiga.

Don't gas yourself because Modric was lucky to be sneaking through common Denmark, Russia and England on penalties in World Cup before common Pogba put him in his place.

Xavi 7 goals and assists in Spain knockout matches including 3 assists in final.

2008 final vs Germany 1-0, Xavi assist,
2012 final vs Italy 4-0, 2 Xavi assists,
WC semi vs Germany 1-0, Xavi assist,
WC QF vs portugal 1-0 xavi assist.
Paraguay 2nd round, 1-0 xavi assist

This is how those tournaments were won, with Xavi the difference maker in all the difficult games as you see whilst controlling the possession machine.

Modric meanwhile was busy missing his kicks in penalty shootouts against minnows and being bailed out, before Pogba taught him a lesson in the final.

Possession control - Modric always averages 60 passes per game his whole career while Xavi is approaching 100 passes per game.

As a midfield controller, as a game decider, they have never been mates.

Don't ever open your vacuous brain to type this nonsense again. You no know ball.

larride:


We are asking you for the exploits of Klose at the World Cup and the CL also. Remember that only

So I am asking again sir, which particular World Cup did Klose beasted or dragged Germany to considering your logic. If this logic is no longer in use, kindly let us know so we can discard it asap.

popizaino:



You will say anything to save face. So Barthez didn't win the world cup and had fanatic save from ronaldo delima?

DExponential:

If only Robben had scored a 'non-open play' CL goal in 2012.

obainojazz:
what Zlatan did to win league titles >>>> what klose did to win 2014 WC

afrodoc2:

Even me that fasted and prayed for many years for Man Utd to buy Modric will not try and compare him to Xavi.

Xavi's level of midfield control was almost spiritual. There are some Xavi stats that seem unreal.

There was a champions league SEASON in which Xavi averaged over 120 passes per game with over 95% pass accuracy. If somebody is passing the ball that many times in a game with that level of accuracy how does the opposition get hold of the ball?

Modric is a better runner with the ball but in terms of ball retention and game control which is most important for CMs Xavi is a god.

kokaneprodigy:
Guroud is a better CF than Aguero....
He won the World Cup

DExponential:
Still trying to understand the meaning of CL goals from 'open play'.

Melvyn11:

Just go to YouTube and watch Euro2012 Spain vs Croatia and see how modric dominated the midfield of xavi,iniesta and busquet, it was amazing. Individually Modric is a superior player to xavi.

afrodoc2:

Honestly Ronaldo has exposed a number of these Real players.

raumdeuter:


Kahn played a CL final and was named motm

raumdeuter:


MOTM is a popularity contest.

raumdeuter:

Kahn played a world cup and was named player of the tournament

raumdeuter:
When I said awards were popularity contests, everyone on here was shouting.

raumdeuter:


Open play means non penalty goals

A players ability to shoot penalties doesn't make him a great striker

No one will buy Rogerio Ceni as striker because he can score penalties

Ibime:


Modric made 35 passes that match, Xavi made 105. How do you dominate someone who made 3 times as many passes as you, and had twice your key passes. Clap for yourself.

weedtaker:
Elewon diggz, brah ibime the confuse me o, i taught kantelele was that one that won the world cup for France from the midfield position and not main man pogbooom. Pls help me explain well.

raumdeuter:


What Messi did to win the CL >>> what Iniesta did to win all the CL and world cups he won

raumdeuter:


How many goals does giroud score in his entire world cup career

Kimbeast:


I can't imagine Xavi being able to replicate the same thing at Madrid or teams with different styles (other than Spain/Barca). Modric kind of has more in terms of ability. Just my opinion

Kimbeast:


I can't imagine Xavi being able to replicate the same thing at Madrid or teams with different styles (other than Spain/Barca). Modric kind of has more in terms of ability. Just my opinion

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