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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 12:08pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
Ibime: There is serious overrating of Xavi individually on this forum. Both Xavi and Iniesta were very important parts of a machine-like system both in Barcelona & Spanish NT and that made them look like untouchable. That doesn't mean they were better individuals than Modric though. And the fact that both were not seen as world beaters until 2008 when Barcelona & Spain's domination began proves my point. I can somewhat understand Iniesta as he had some aspects to his game where he was better than Modric like better close control, better dribbling etc. but Modric is better than/or at least on par with Xavi in all aspects of the game. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:25pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
Melvyn11: Shutup, you don't know football. Modric was chased out of AM position at Spurs by Rafael Van Der Vaart. Xavi provided 50% of the assists in knockout stages for Spain's Euro 2008, World Cup 2010 and Euro 2012 victory, unlike others who dribbled through with zero end product and only got lucky in the final. Xavi wasn't part of the machine, he was the machine. He controlled the possession machine and provided most of the key assists. 14 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Cypmeni(m): 12:42pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
DExponential: The truth of the whole thing is that we are tired of his nonsense |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 12:46pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
Ibime:Lol Xavi that was riding bench behind Van Bommel and Deco . if not for deco reoccuring injuries Xavi would probably had stayed a few more seasons at the bench. Stop being clueless xavi was great yes but saying modric is not up to par or even better is sheer delusion. Modric has more in his locker then Xavi ever had. 9 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:14pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
Melvyn11: Modric failed as an Attacking midfielder and had Rafael Van Der Vaart drafted in to do his job. If Modric is so great, he should tell us why the mere absence of Ronaldo turned his team into Real Sociedad of LaLiga. Don't gas yourself because Modric was lucky to be sneaking through common Denmark, Russia and England on penalties in World Cup before common Pogba put him in his place. Xavi 7 goals and assists in Spain knockout matches including 3 assists in final. 2008 Euro final vs Germany 1-0, Xavi assist, 2012 Euro final vs Italy 4-0, 2 Xavi assists, WC semi vs Germany 1-0, Xavi assist, WC QF vs portugal 1-0 xavi assist. Paraguay 2nd round, 1-0 xavi assist This is how those tournaments were won, with Xavi the difference maker in all the difficult games as you see whilst controlling the possession machine. Modric meanwhile was busy missing his kicks in penalty shootouts against minnows and being bailed out, before Pogba taught him a lesson in the final. Possession control - Modric always averages 60 passes per game his whole career while Xavi is approaching 100 passes per game. As a midfield controller, as a game decider, they have never been mates. Don't ever open your vacuous brain to type this nonsense again. You no know ball. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 1:18pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
chic2pimp: Honestly, you're not been honest.Nothing is clear about someone who says A today only to change to Q in the very nxt minute when caught beteeen the tail.I perfectly understand his criteria for judging players that y am among the few who mostly like his comments hereHence i will take drogba before Henry and eto,iniesta before lampard or Zidane yes Zidane (don't gawk at me )But what I simply don't understand is how what sits clearly at the very top of his own criteria for judging players (big games performances)changes the moment hazard is involved? Explain |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 1:18pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
Even me that fasted and prayed for many years for Man Utd to buy Modric will not try and compare him to Xavi. Xavi's level of midfield control was almost spiritual. There are some Xavi stats that seem unreal. There was a champions league SEASON in which Xavi averaged over 120 passes per game with over 95% pass accuracy. If somebody is passing the ball that many times in a game with that level of accuracy how does the opposition get hold of the ball? Modric is a better runner with the ball but in terms of ball retention and game control which is most important for CMs Xavi is a god. 9 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 1:32pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
raumdeuter: You will say anything to save face. So Barthez didn't win the world cup and had fanatic save from ronaldo delima? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Adisaowalla: 1:32pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
Melvyn11: No dey talk this kain rubbish for public forum oga 14 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 1:34pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
Ibime: Passing average has nothing to do with anything, it is just down to the style they used to play, the lack of risk taking, and their position on the pitch (Modric covers a wider range than Xavi, and plays a bit further), but we're comparing their ability here. and by the way kroos is the midfield controller for Madrid not modric. modric is more complete. He can blast past people, he has the acceleration and speed to go with vision, positioning and passing. The only thing Xavi is superior to modric is passing nothing more when talking about individual abilities. The biggest advantage Xavi have over someone like Modric is their international career. Modric did not have a luxury of playing with Iniesta Busquets, Ramos, Villa, etc... To win all those international titles. Just go to YouTube and watch Euro2012 Spain vs Croatia and see how modric dominated the midfield of xavi,iniesta and busquet, it was amazing. Individually Modric is a superior player to xavi. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:36pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
larride: Tell us how zlatan has zero CL goals because he came from lowly Sweden while at least 10 swedish players have worked cup goals Some even have 4 in one tournament |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:38pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
popizaino: Kahn played a CL final and was named motm Kahn played a world cup and was named player of the tournament What did Barthez do individually that compare to this |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TalabiAudu: 1:39pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
DExponential:
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:39pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
obainojazz: League champion just like Pauleta who before zlatan dominated French league |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 1:39pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
afrodoc2: I can't imagine Xavi being able to replicate the same thing at Madrid or teams with different styles (other than Spain/Barca). Modric kind of has more in terms of ability. Just my opinion 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:40pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
kokaneprodigy: How many goals does giroud score in his entire world cup career |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TalabiAudu: 1:41pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
False 9 again? Make that fluke win against City no deceive Sarri oo
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 1:42pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
Honestly Ronaldo has exposed a number of these Real players. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:42pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
DExponential: Open play means non penalty goals A players ability to shoot penalties doesn't make him a great striker No one will buy Rogerio Ceni as striker because he can score penalties 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:43pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
Melvyn11: Modric made 35 passes that match, Xavi made 105. How do you dominate someone who made 3 times as many passes as you, and had twice your key passes. Clap for yourself. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:43pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
afrodoc2: Doctor can you lecture these young ones about Pauleta and his similarities to zlatan 1 billion league goals no go change your destiny from waste to legend 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:47pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
line up K. Arrizabalaga A. Rudiger M. Alonso Jorginho N. Kante E. Hazard Pedro M. Kovacic Willian C. Azpilicueta D. Luiz |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by weedtaker: 1:48pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
Elewon diggz, brah ibime the confuse me o, i taught kantelele was that one that won the world cup for France from the midfield position and not main man pogbooom. Pls help me explain well. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Adisaowalla: 1:48pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
raumdeuter: raumdeuter: raumdeuter: raumdeuter: stay one place na 21 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by DExponential(m): 1:52pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
raumdeuter:I know that very well but you are simply trying to downgrade the importance of penalty goals. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 1:52pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
Ibime:And this proves what exactly? I wish i can share the video here for everyone to see. Modric was destroying Spain midfield like it was nothing. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 1:54pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
weedtaker: Epa Weedtaker....you are not making sense as usual ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 1:54pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
raumdeuter: What about Zidane? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 1:55pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
raumdeuter:baba I think say na trophy and not goals we dey use rate world class CFs. I’m not in the mood for Amala this hot afternoon. Which one be goals again? stay one place make this thunder fit locate you abeg 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 1:59pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
Kimbeast: If you had to choose between Xavi and Modric for a team not named Barcelona/ Spain the whole world would pick modric.Some players are made for specific systems while others thrives in every system. One of the big difference between modric and xavi. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 2:04pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
Kimbeast: Xavi WAS the system. Immediately Xavi was given the keys to the kingdom he took control at club and national team level. That is why the MSN Barca did not have the kind of game control and domination of peak Xavi Barca. Main thing is in terms of midfield control which is the number 1 duty of a CM Modric is no where near Xavi. Finally even if your assumption is right, more versatile is not the same as better. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Lana1(m): 2:05pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
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