openmine:

Am actually trying hard not to resort to insults when I see similar posts as the op!
This Melchizedek and Christ comparison has been discussed in detail....sighting from scriptures that the comparison was not based on their personal qualities but their priesthood!
However,most believers get fed wrongly by ministers who are worshipped by these same believers...hence whatever the minister says is the right thing!

He's only towing the line of lies that emerges from the pulpits at the mormon worship centers called churches.
They will twist the word of God for their gain.

Havent you noticed an increase in deviation from true doctrine in recent times?

They will subtly introduce ambiguity so as to change things to suit their narrative and aim

Equating Melchizedek to Christ is simply blasphemy. Anyone who agrees with that lie is of the devil.

Basing an entire write up on that lie is demonic and evil. And those who agreed with him on that are liars.

kareemkamil:
This guy absolutely wrong, and he doesn't know anything in bible, I'm expecting him to bring his fact from book of Mathew, Mark, Luke, John. He refers us to Old Testament. Now my question is Jesus collect or paid tithe in the Bible. Please prove me right or wrong.

Which other proof do you want them to bring apart from Matthew 23 v 23 or Luke 11 v 42?

They are even shooting themselves in the foot because Jesus was referring to tithing performed in line with the Mosaic Law.

These pro-tithers do not even consider the fact that Jesus had not fulfilled the Law at that point in time.

Jesus upheld the Mosaic Law. Notice how Jesus healed lepers and still told them to present themselves to the Priest for purification and cleansing in lines with the Laws of Moses.

Now that the Law is fulfilled, how does tithing concern the non-Jews that were never under the Mosaic Law in the first place?


These pro-tithers are jokers mehn...

paxonel:
how does this concern us in the new covenant?
Was abraham and melchizedek in the new covenant?

If you say melchizedek was Jesus christ did melchizedek brought salvation to aabraham in the old testament like we have salvation through christ today?

These are the questions one should ask.

Remember the parable of jesus the axe has huend the tree?
This means God is done with the old covenant and it laws which include tithing.

There is time for everything.

There was time for tithing(old testament era), now it is time for salvation ,so there is no point taking us or God back again to What has already past.

Put it this way, thing was another religion entirely different from christianity and that religion was judaism (religion of the jews)
Therefore let no jew force you to practice their laws because you are gentile by birth, lets say the truth.

Even today jews dont know anything about this tithing you people are now putting on your head that is becoming a problem to the church today

Of course that concerns us in the New Testament. Go read Hebrew 7. After reading then we can discuss.

Tithing existed before the law of Moses. Some on the laws of Moses were put to stop in the New Testament like the OP said, Matthew 23:23 also confirmed that Jesus still approved the paying of tithe.

pressplay411:


So much bitterness. You're in darkness. You need the Light and Joy of the Lord.
Jesus Christ is the Prince of Peace and Joy to the World.
He is patiently waiting for you, to deliver and save you from your self-imposed darkness.

Lol, as usual they resort to emotional nonsense and "you are in darkness" tales when they can't counter your argument with a superior response. Have you asked those thieves to seek forgiveness?

IamJames:


Of course that concerns us in the New Testament. Go read Hebrew 7. After reading then we can discuss.

If tithing has a place in the new covenant, then what shall we say of 2 Corinthians 9 v 7?

Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.


I don't see Paul making an emphasis on 10% of anything anywhere

IamJames:


Of course that concerns us in the New Testament. Go read Hebrew 7. After reading then we can discuss.

Tithing existed before the law of Moses. Some on the laws of Moses were put to stop in the New Testament like the OP said, Matthew 23:23 also confirmed that Jesus still approved the paying of tithe.

Per Matthew 23 v 23, note! Jesus approved of tithing in line with the requirements of the Mosaic Law.

Why would Jesus condemn tithing especially when he had not fulfilled the requirements of the Mosaic Law?

Are you also aware that Matthew 23 v 23 is approving the entirety (weightier and non-weightier) of the Mosaic Law (Judaism)?

Where was tithing practiced by the early Christians after the death and resurrection of Jesus?

OkCornel:


Per Matthew 23 v 23, note! Jesus approved of tithing in line with the requirements of the Mosaic Law.

Why would Jesus condemn tithing especially when he had not fulfilled the requirements of the Mosaic Law?

Are you also aware that Matthew 23 v 23 is approving the entirety (weightier and non-weightier) of the Mosaic Law (Judaism)?

Where was tithing practiced by the early Christians after the death and resurrection of Jesus?

Please school them.they have been taught in error

OkCornel:


If tithing has a place in the new covenant, then what shall we say of 2 Corinthians 9 v 7?

Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.


I don't see Paul making an emphasis on 10% of anything anywhere

Now you're confusing giving to PAYING of tithe. Giving of offering, giving to the poor and needy is as you will in your heart. Tithe is not yours, you don't give it, you PAY it. Just like you PAY your tax to govt, tax isn't your money to keep, it is compulsory and mandatory you pay it. So it is with tithe.

Mind you, no pastor has the right to force you to pay your tithe, they can only teach you and remind you of your obligation to the house of God, the Spirit of God within you is the one to compel you to do the needful.

IamJames:


Now you're confusing giving to PAYING of tithe. Giving of offering, giving to the poor and needy is as you will in your heart. Tithe is not yours, you don't give it, you PAY it. Just like you PAY your tax to govt, tax isn't your money to keep, it is compulsory and mandatory you pay it. So it is with tithe.

Mind you, no pastor has the right to force you to pay your tithe, they can only teach you and remind you of your obligation to the house of God, the Spirit of God within you is the one to compel you to do the needful.

Then please elaborate on Deuteronomy 14 v 28 -29; Isn't tithe also meant to be given to the poor, widowed and fatherless?

28 “At the end of every three years you shall bring out all the tithe of your produce in the same year and lay it up within your towns. 29 And the Levite, because he has no portion or inheritance with you, and the sojourner, the fatherless, and the widow, who are within your towns, shall come and eat and be filled, that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands that you do.


Why would a Christian be mandated to tithe when Paul clearly stated this in 2 Corinthians 9 v 7?
Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

1) Is there still any obligation on a Christian to tithe?
2) Is monetary tithing commanded by God either in the Old or New Testament?

OgogoroFreak:
I don't say to Jesus or anyone else "Lord, Lord".

I don't waste valuable time on things like "Soul" "Spirit" "Ghost" "Heaven" - they are all gibberish to me.

The Bible is not my guide. I'm a very practical person. In life, I do only things that work for me and dump the things that doesn't work for me regardless of whether it's in the Bible or not.

In other words, YOU ARE A LAW UNTO YOURSELF. Can't you see how wise you have been? You were born into a world created by SOMEONE, you consume the creator's oxygen that you never knew how it was created, you eat food from plants and animals that were created by this same creator, you drink water that was created by this same creator, you have brain to think which you don't even know how your brain was formed by processes initiated by this same creator. Yet you use the same brain to imagine you are sufficient to yourself and it never occurs to you that you owe your loyalty to the creator who gave you the oxygen you breathe and the life you have. It doesn't occur to you that THE CREATOR OF LIFE AND DEATH AND THE UNIVERSE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO??

Even your natural common sense should tell you that when you go to a person's house, you ought to abide by his rules that he set to govern his house, but you just find yourself on earth and you never bother to ask yourself 1) Where did I come from 2) Who am I 3) Where am I going from here?

Every wise person would ask himself those questions and answer them before he dies. There is no way you can answer those questions truthfully without finding Christ. You can try to ignore these questions now, but it doesn't mean the consequences of not acknowledging the laws of God will disappear when you die and stand to give an account of your life

paxonel:
how does this concern us in the new covenant?
Was abraham and melchizedek in the new covenant?

If you say melchizedek was Jesus christ did melchizedek brought salvation to aabraham in the old testament like we have salvation through christ today?

These are the questions one should ask.

Remember the parable of jesus the axe has huend the tree?
This means God is done with the old covenant and it laws which include tithing.

There is time for everything.

There was time for tithing(old testament era), now it is time for salvation ,so there is no point taking us or God back again to What has already past.

Put it this way, thing was another religion entirely different from christianity and that religion was judaism (religion of the jews)
Therefore let no jew force you to practice their laws because you are gentile by birth, lets say the truth.

Even today jews dont know anything about this tithing you people are now putting on your head that is becoming a problem to the church today

Matthew 5:17

Stop misquoting Bible please. Jesus didn't come with salvation to abolish the law.

If truly he came to abolish the law we shouldn't have the old testament in the Bible because the law as passed away. No one is forcing you to pay tithes, the reward that comes with it is personal. If you still think the law doesn't apply today please just tear of all old testament books and stop making references to them. Don;t even read the book of Psalms.

hoopLA:

Please speak proper English.

I know you are his lackey and dont have anything to say but at least you could try typing in concise grammar.

Ask him to show us how Melchizedek equates to Jesus.

Everything with you must end with an insult. All you could have said is Prove not proof which was an oversight on my part. Why are you so aggressive? You sound very angry and uppity. Don't hit the player, hit the game! Feel sorry for the people who have to relate with you on a daily basis.

ollah1:




Words from hypocrite like you. Why didn't you quote your pastor when he used fowl languages more than once slave?

Nigerians and insults are like 5 & 6. They think aggression earns them points in simple debates. They never come with open mindedness, they come to fight. Lolzzxx

OkCornel:


If tithing has a place in the new covenant, then what shall we say of 2 Corinthians 9 v 7?

Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.


I don't see Paul making an emphasis on 10% of anything anywhere

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Paul and the verse you quoted is referring to what is termed as offering or helping those in need, as you decide in your heart.

Tithe is marked out as 10%, and completely different from offering (giving to the needy) as correctly itemized by the OP.

The only concern is that most of the churches receiving tithe don't use it for the original purpose for which God asked us to tithe.

OkCornel:


Then please elaborate on Deuteronomy 14 v 28 -29; Isn't tithe also meant to be given to the poor, widowed and fatherless?

28 “At the end of every three years you shall bring out all the tithe of your produce in the same year and lay it up within your towns. 29 And the Levite, because he has no portion or inheritance with you, and the sojourner, the fatherless, and the widow, who are within your towns, shall come and eat and be filled, that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands that you do.


Why would a Christian be mandated to tithe when Paul clearly stated this in 2 Corinthians 9 v 7?
Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

1) Is there still any obligation on a Christian to tithe?
2) Is monetary tithing commanded by God either in the Old or New Testament?

28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the foreigners, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.

Here's another version of the verse.

The practice back then was that after every three years, all the tithes of that particular third year be brought and stored in towns so that the Levites, foreigners, fatherless and others as stated in the verse may come and eat. This practice is done only ONCE very three years. So let me ask you, what happens to the tithe the first two years? The tithe is not given to the poor or fatherless or widows but taken to the house of God as Malachi stated.

The Federal government has been giving out tradermoni to traders and some other help to the poor in the society, these are intervention programs which is being done with tax payers money. That's exactly what's happening in that verse you quoted, after every three years, the tithe (tax) of the produce of that particular third year is given to the Levites, widows, fatherless and foreigners, it's a form of intervention program

And to your other question, like I once stated, there are different types giving in the church, there's offering, there's giving for building of the house of God, there's giving to the needy and poor and these are given as one decides in his/her heart. Tithe on the other hand is an obligation to the house of God which you PAY just like every citizen of a country is obligated to pay tax to the govt. You don't pay your tax as you decide, you pay your tax according to what you earn, so it is with your tithe. You don't decide what you give as tithe, you give a tenth of what God has given you. This is simple.

sparta:
Everything with you must end with an insult. All you could have said is Prove not proof which was an oversight on my part. Why are you so aggressive? You sound very angry and uppity. Don't hit the player, hit the game! Feel sorry for the people who have to relate with you on a daily basis.

Oga or madam

I wasnt even talking to you.

Please is it hit the game or hate the game?

Please speak proper English.

I have no time for stúpid people.

Thank you

sparta:
Nigerians and insults are like 5 & 6. They think aggression earns them points in simple debates. They never come with open mindedness, they come to fight. Lolzzxx

Quit acting like a dummy everytime, the simple question is why didn't you quote your pastor who also insulted and did it beyond once?

IamJames:


Of course that concerns us in the New Testament. Go read Hebrew 7. After reading then we can discuss.

Tithing existed before the law of Moses. Some on the laws of Moses were put to stop in the New Testament like the OP said, Matthew 23:23 also confirmed that Jesus still approved the paying of tithe.

How come is only tithes that you still practiced from the old law? why not continue with other laws?
even the Mathew 23:23 says why you neglect the important issues and laying more emphasis tithe,

The greatest commandment is LOVE. Where is the love today, how can you be talking of tithes when you don't have love.

omojeesu:
Sorry, you are confused and please stop confusing people with your many words and theological gymnastics!

Tithing and instructions about it are so EXPLICIT for the people it was intended for, the Jews! If it was also for Christians it will also be so explicit. But because it is not you people now go ahead to twist scriptures making them say what they dont mean on the subject.

Tithing is a PRINCIPLE NOT A PRACTICE FOR THE CHURCH. AS TITHE WAS FOR THE CARE OF THE LEVITES, SO GIVING TO MINISTERS OF THE GOSPEL NOT BY COMPULSION BUT THROUGH FREEWILL OFFERINGS THAT IS NOT EVEN ROUTINE BUT GOOD AND MAKES SENSE IF IT IS REGULAR.

Let's stop calling this giving 'tithe'! It is not! Tithing is well defined. Our giving is freewill not compulsory like tithing. That's the New Testament position.

As for Matthew 23:23 you missed it big time. Jesus was definitely and specifically lambasting the Pharisees and Sadducees. They were Jews under the Law. They were not the disciples nor were they Christians. Of course they ought not to neglect tithing. Tithing was mandatory religious practice for them. Jesus scolded them for neglecting the MORE IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF THE LAW and were instead focusing mostly on tithing.

The lesson for the Church:

Certainly NOT ABOUT TITHING but about giving ATTENTION TO the MORAL ASPECTS AND PRINCIPLES OF THE LAW WHICH ARE UNCHANGING AND ETERNAL WITHOUT NEGLECTING TO GIVE TO SUPPORT MINISTERS AND CHURCH WORK.

See the wahala all these have caused us.

We major on what is not explicit for us and neglect the more important things.

Unnecessary distraction for the Church in this last days when we should be focusing on living right, walking in love and holiness waiting and actively winning souls for the Lord before His return. Getting ready to suffer and die for Him if need be.

The Lord will revive us!

God bless you brother. Giving it's different from tithe. Stop calling it tithe.

Emperor007:



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Paul and the verse you quoted is referring to what is termed as offering or helping those in need, as you decide in your heart.

Tithe is marked out as 10%, and completely different from offering (giving to the needy) as correctly itemized by the OP.

The only concern is that most of the churches receiving tithe don't use it for the original purpose for which God asked us to tithe.

You are still not getting my point. Perhaps you can help me by clearly answering these questions:

1) Where in the new covenant are Christians required to tithe? If Matthew 23 v 23 or Luke 11 v 42 is your point of reference, then bear in mind that Jesus was referring to tithing as practiced in the requirements of the Mosaic Law.

2) Where in the Old or New Testament did God require that tithes be given in form of money as it is practiced today?

3) Can you show with scriptural references any Christian that gave tithes after the death and resurrection of Jesus?

4) Was tithing an early Church doctrine? If yes, please show us scriptural references where early Christians tithed.

Lokoyen:


Matthew 5:17

Stop misquoting Bible please. Jesus didn't come with salvation to abolish the law.

If truly he came to abolish the law we shouldn't have the old testament in the Bible because the law as passed away. No one is forcing you to pay tithes, the reward that comes with it is personal. If you still think the law doesn't apply today please just tear of all old testament books and stop making references to them. Don;t even read the book of Psalms.

This is stùpid at best

So why dont you offer burnt offerings?
Why do you still wear clothes with different fabrics mixed together? Isn't it unlawful according to the Law?
Why dont you kill your relatives who have had sex before being betrothed?
Why do you still eat pork and catfish? Arent they "unclean" according to the Law?
Why do you let your relatives scrape the sides of your beard?
Why dont you wear tasseled garments?
Why dont you worship on Saturdays being the Sabbath day?

These things are in the law.

Dull people like you dont even know why the old testamant exists.

IamJames:


The practice back then was that after every three years, all the tithes of that particular third year be brought and stored in towns so that the Levites, foreigners, fatherless and others as stated in the verse may come and eat. This practice is done only ONCE very three years. So let me ask you, what happens to the tithe the first two years? The tithe is not given to the poor or fatherless or widows but taken to the house of God as Malachi stated.

This is my problem with you pro-tithers. Why are you all quiet on the fact that the tithes were eaten in the house of God by the tither in those two years? Please can you elaborate on these verses?

23 And before the Lord your God, in the place that he will choose, to make his name dwell there, you shall eat the tithe of your grain, of your wine, and of your oil, and the firstborn of your herd and flock, that you may learn to fear the Lord your God always. 24 And if the way is too long for you, so that you are not able to carry the tithe, when the Lord your God blesses you, because the place is too far from you, which the Lord your God chooses, to set his name there, 25 then you shall turn it into money and bind up the money in your hand and go to the place that the Lord your God chooses 26 and spend the money for whatever you desire—oxen or sheep or wine or strong drink, whatever your appetite craves. And you shall eat there before the Lord your God and rejoice, you and your household.


1) Where did tithe turn from Crops and Livestock as commanded by God into money that is given in the church today?

2) Why aren't Pastors preaching that tithes are meant to be eaten by the tither and the tithers' household?

IamJames:

Tithe on the other hand is an obligation to the house of God which you PAY just like every citizen of a country is obligated to pay tax to the govt. You don't pay your tax as you decide, you pay your tax according to what you earn, so it is with your tithe. You don't decide what you give as tithe, you give a tenth of what God has given you. This is simple.

I recall tithe was only an obligation for the Jews. Please can you show us where in the scriptures non-Jews were also required to tithe?

If tithe is an obligation for the Christians to obey, then please...of what usefulness is this verse? 2 Corinthians 9 v 7

7 Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

MrPresident1:
The house of God is the widows orphans the needy and all other kinds of people in need immediately around you and in the society. What Jesus is against is legalistic, self- righteous, pharisaical, hypocritical tithe paying, while abandoning the weightier matters of the law of God. When tithing is done in a legalistic way, it produces a self-righteous, indulgent and hypocritical attitude, this is not the purpose of God.

Matthew 23:23
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Your nearest neighbour is your responsibility, you cannot see him hungry and then carry your money to 'church', that hungry fellow is your church. If you want God's blessing, then make sure your neighbour is well fed, sheltered, and clothed. The society is the church, church is the society.

After all, our greatest purpose as Christians is to make heaven, so our tithing must be purposed in this direction too. When you do it to the least of the brethren, you have done it unto God

Matthew 6:33
But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Mathew 25:34-34 
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

The King called him righteous, the one who fed clothed and sheltered his neighbour.

how I wish I can find time to read this long shit you put down there, but absolutely not having time for that

openmine:
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the op said "tithing" predated the law right?
Now am asking you who seem to be incredibly knowledgeable or tend to comprehend the OP better..what happened with circumcision and burnt offering that predated law?
Please answer with scriptures or be quiet!

Galatians 5:6
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. All that matters is faith, expressed through love.

Colossians 3:11
Here there is no Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave, or free, but Christ is all and is in all.

You can now see for yourself. If you studied the bible for yourself, you would have seen that the bible clearly said circumcision no longer has any value in Christ. But can you show me where the bible ever said tithing never has any value after Jesus upheld it in Matthew 23:23?

Now, show your claims with scriptures or be very quiet! (And i hope you know daddy freeze's words are not scripture)

nelsonoba:



Galatians 5:6
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. All that matters is faith, expressed through love.

Colossians 3:11
Here there is no Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave, or free, but Christ is all and is in all.

You can now see for yourself. If you studied the bible for yourself, you would have seen that the bible clearly said circumcision no longer has any value in Christ. But can you show me where the bible ever said tithing never has any value after Jesus upheld it in Matthew 23:23?

Now, show your claims with scriptures or be very quiet! (And i hope you know daddy freeze's words are not scripture)

Jesus upheld tithing as practiced in line with the Mosaic Law in Matthew 23 v 23.

Is the tithing practiced in the church today performed in line with the requirements of the Mosaic Law?

1) Jesus the Son of God, never collected tithes from His followers

2) The Apostles of the early church never collected tithes from the early Christians or mandated the early Christians to tithe...


But someone is of the opinion that our Pastors are now "spiritual levites" with the appropriate authority to collect monetary tithes from Christians...

Suddenly, these "spiritual levites" have more authority than the Jesus and the Apostles of the early church as long as the matter of tithe collection is concerned...

This is really interesting!

CelyStar1212:


Thank you for this. Many Men and women of God have ruined the lives of people. The neglect the most important aspect of Christianity and are busy chasing money money money. Tithes,seed sowing, any thing that brings in money. Wicked people

Uwc. The religious leaders benefit from the chaos

hoopLA:


This is stùpid at best

So why dont you offer burnt offerings?
Why do you still wear clothes with different fabrics mixed together? Isn't it unlawful according to the Law?
Why dont you kill your relatives who have had sex before being betrothed?
Why do you still eat pork and catfish? Arent they "unclean" according to the Law?
Why do you let your relatives scrape the sides of your beard?
Why dont you wear tasseled garments?
Why dont you worship on Saturdays being the Sabbath day?

These things are in the law.

Dull people like you dont even know why the old testamant exists.

Why don't u wear robes since Jesus wore robes, why didn't ur female relatives wear veils since ladies women in new testament wear veils.

Don't let ur shallow brain coupled with over sabi and ignorance kill u.

Don't pay tithes its ur fucking biz.

And Please don't make reference to any old testament books again.

OkCornel:



Jesus upheld tithing as practiced in line with the Mosaic Law in Matthew 23 v 23.

Is the tithing practiced in the church today performed in line with the requirements of the Mosaic Law?

Stop complicating things and deceiving yourself. Tithe simply means 10% of your profit. Whatever your profit in business is, 10% is tithe.

Abraham paid tithe long before the mosaic law was given. Isaac and Jacob also paid tithe before the law. The bible recorded that "....Abraham paid a tithe of ALL to Melchizedek, priest of the most High". You may want to ask yourself what ALL means.

Just as God placed an importance on paying of tithes before the law was given to Moses, that is the same way he placed importance on people not committing adultery even before the 10 commandments were given. Adultery was already a sin before the law and that is why Joseph refused to sleep with Potiphar's wife! Adultery is still a sin in the new testament and that is why Jesus said if you even look lustfully on a woman, you have committed adultery. The same way adultery has been a sin before the law, and still is a sin till today, that is how tithing had been requirement from man even before the law until this day. If God wanted to abolish it, he would have clearly told us as the bible said of circumcision in
Galatians 5:6
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. All that matters is faith, expressed through love.

.....and Jesus himself would never have upheld it in Matthew 23:23

desiredhome:


How come is only tithes that you still practiced from the old law? why not continue with other laws?
even the Mathew 23:23 says why you neglect the important issues and laying more emphasis tithe,

The greatest commandment is LOVE. Where is the love today, how can you be talking of tithes when you don't have love.

First of all, tithing wasn't part of the law given to Moses. It existed before the law came. Abraham was recorded to have paid tithe, Jacob also stated he would pay tithe.

Talking about the old law (Law of Moses) not all the law was thrown away. The OP mentioned some. One of the laws said you don't marry your kin, do you marry your kin today?

Now
Read that verse again

23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.

Let's dissect.

You give a tenth (tithe) of your spices

You neglected the more important matters of the law - justice, mercy and faithfulness.

He went further to say "you should practice the latter", what's the latter? Practicing important matters of the law - justice, mercy and faithfulness WITHOUT NEGLECTING the former, what's the former here? The tenth (Tithe). Meaning you don't neglecting the paying of tithe.

Of course the greatest commandment is love
Here's Matthew 22 vs 36-40

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’

38 This is the first and greatest commandment.

39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’

40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Love is not the greatest commandment but rather loving the Lord your God with all your heart, soul and mind, which is the first and greatest commandment. How do you talk about loving God which is the greatest commandment without obeying his word on paying of tithe according to Malachi?

nelsonoba:


Stop complicating things and deceiving yourself. Tithe simply means 10% of your profit. Whatever your profit in business is, 10% is tithe.

Where did God mention tithe to be 10% of profit? God clearly defined tithe as a tenth of farm produce and livestock!

nelsonoba:

Abraham paid tithe long before the mosaic law was given. Isaac and Jacob also paid tithe before the law. The bible recorded that "....Abraham paid a tithe of ALL to Melchizedek, priest of the most High". You may want to ask yourself what ALL means.

A fraudulent way of interpreting the scriptures. Abram gave a tithe of all of what? His possessions or from the spoils of war?

How many times did Abram tithe in his lifetime? What did Abram do with the 90% of the war spoils?

Should we use Abram's voluntary, one-off transaction with Melchizedek from the spoils of war as a basis for Christians to tithe from their incomes every week or month?

nelsonoba:

Just as God placed an importance on paying of tithes before the law was given to Moses, that is the same way he placed importance on people not committing adultery even before the 10 commandments were given. Adultery was already a sin before the law and that is why Joseph refused to sleep with Potiphar's wife! Adultery is still a sin in the new testament and that is why Jesus said if you even look lustfully on a woman, you have committed adultery. The same way adultery has been a sin before the law, and still is a sin till today, that is how tithing had been requirement from man even before the law until this day. If God wanted to abolish it, he would have clearly told us as the bible said of circumcision in
Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

It's beautiful to note that we are no longer Jews or Gentiles in Christ! so how is tithe which was mandatory for the Jews now a requirement for Christians to follow?

nelsonoba:

.....and Jesus himself would never have upheld it in Matthew 23:23

And for the umpteenth time, Jesus upheld tithing as practiced in line with the requirements of the Mosaic Law (Crops & Livestock in Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29), not Abrahamic tithing or monetary tithing!

Is the tithing practiced in the church today anything close to what Jesus mentioned in Matthew 23 v 23?