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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by PFRB: 1:27pm On Dec 15, 2018
Afamed:

There will be no shops eventually when the inventory is hourly looted by the thieves.

Be practical and realistic.

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by jude79(m): 2:57pm On Dec 15, 2018
Afamed:

Is there a sense in what you typed up there?

haven't you heard of oso ahia. thats the secret of igbo apprenticeship success. it's very important u keep the shop open, while keep updating means to secure ur shop from looters.

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by MrMurphy: 3:24pm On Dec 15, 2018
As an entrepreneur, it's advisable to keep a measure on how to tackle a thieves irrespective of any methods adopted and continue opening of the shop and chasing the thieves will end up has nothing left in the shop. It'll only take a time to deal with the thieves and came back later to settle for the business and not staying in the shop and send an agents to run after the thieves remembering the goal of any entrepreneur is to make profits and any actions must be taken against the odds

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by imasong005(m): 3:26pm On Dec 15, 2018
helinues:
You guys are misinterpreting Osibanjo. What he meant was Apc government didn't close the shop instead they installed/implemented security measures to watch over the shop ( TSA, BVN).
JAMB remitted only N50million naira for good seven years , Jonathan government included. In 2017 only, JAMB remitted N7.8bn

JAMB, Customs, Immigration, FIRS have all had 100% increase in revenue in last 3 years. Their shops have not closed instead boomerang.

Pdp shop was looted for good 16 years without considering of doing something about it. Dasuki comes to mind
My question is, with all the money that was generated by this agencies you just mentioned now, how has it benefited the common man on the streets of Nigeria. Is life much more better now.

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by helinues: 3:30pm On Dec 15, 2018
imasong005:
My question is, with all the money that was generated by this agencies you just mentioned now, how has it benefited the common man on the streets of Nigeria. Is life much more better now.

That is the money they are using for the roads, railways, paying pensions, Trader moni, N power. Direct benefits to the masses

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by Nobody: 1:11am On Dec 16, 2018
Nnemuka:
So because thieves Stole from me, instead of installing CCTV cameras in other to catch next thief I should rather close shop in pursuit of the first thief?
This op might be a graduate awaiting NYSC yet very dull.

I think you have comprehension issue. I suggest you read the post again. Slowly this time.

But where is lalasticlala, mynd44, sef?

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by Nobody: 1:16am On Dec 16, 2018
nonsobaba:
OP, if you have common sense you wouldn't be asking this question. It is only a thief who made his wealth by fraudulent means that won't close his shop to pursue a thief that stole from him. If you worked hard for your wealth, you won't allow somebody to steal from you and get away with it. If you are a christian, you should know the parable of the lost sheep. Peter Obi is a thief who stole so much from the government when he was governor, that is why he could give such an absurd analogy.

Do you have facts that Obi stole in govt?

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by deomelllo: 1:31am On Dec 16, 2018
magoo10:
You cannot close shop because of thieves
Business itself is a risk

Sometimes you make profits that are more than the risk taken
Buhari has practically shut down the economy with the excuse of fighting a one sided imaginary corruption.



How exactly do you make a profit with looted and empty shop and nothing left to sell?


I do understand Peter Obi's manner of thinking because this is the basics mentally backward and corrupt ipob mentality, but such corrupt sentiments coming from a VP candidate from a major political party is just heartbreaking and unfortunate.


Reminds me of GEJ's disastrous stealing is not corruption comment.


Btw, Peter Ob insinuating saying they shut down the country is just plain stupid, dumb and idiotic

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by chiedozie198100: 1:53am On Dec 16, 2018
XplicitDOW:
if u continue to remain in d shop and not chase d thieves one day u will come and find an empty shop

a little injury at knee can wen not treated and left alone may lead to amputation


a farmer who notice a sign of symptoms of a disease in one plant n overlooks it will one day lose its farm to d disease

a shepherd with his flocks who was attacked by a predator and do not chase after it n kill it one day will lose his flocks to d predator

the problem of pdp is dat they always don't look at future implications n dat wat brot us into dis menace

if u know u know

you seethat simple basic intellectual analysis you BMC guys can not handle.

Peter obi said keep the shop running, while you create measures to stop the stealing.
legitimate customers that actually grow ur business should not be shut out, as u r busyy chasing the thieves.
you can run ur business and still chase the thieves.

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by socialmediaman: 2:38am On Dec 16, 2018
rayopt:
comprehension is a big problem for Nigerians.

obi's submission is. . . continue business irregardless of thieves!

osibanjo says. . .we cannot ignore the thieves, something must be done about them

the economy didn't shutdown due to buhari corruption campaign!

why are you all making it seem as if he shutdown the economy due to thieves?

let's be objective!

lets face it buhari started with a whole lot of badluck on his side but he was slow and sluggish in decisions and his carefully selected board were not so creative afterall.
this does not in any way exonerate the opposition which is the same of the same APC of the initial PDP.

lets separate governance from politics. in terms of the former, osibanjo was ryt!

at the bolded, it did!

What I believe Peter Obi was trying to say was that we should focus on reviving Nigeria’s economy first rather than chasing thieves. This means that if your first policy in government is to chase thieves, your economy will shutdown because trillions will be out of circulation with everyone trying to hide money and protect their assets. This is the case of Nigeria today as I see it

On the one hand, if your first policy while in government is to seal the financial leaks within your government while allowing people to breathe, your government will keep running until you are stable enough to begin your anti corruption war. In essence, seal the cracks first to prevent people from stealing further, then initiate policies that will enable them invest the money in the economy and not take the money out while implementing laws that make punishment for new offences stiffer (Like China did)

Give these companies at 20 years to become public corporations before going after their original founders. Then it won’t hurt so much. Let’s say a bank was started by the owner with stolen N20 Million 20 years ago. That bank today is worth like 10 billion dollars. If you had chased the owner 20 years back to recover some of that money, he would hide it in a safe house and there won’t be a bank today.


Building an economy my friend, is not a straight job like hammering a nail to wood. It takes some wisdom. If you know how some of the biggest economies in the world built their economies, you’ll understand. Take Switzerland for instance

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by naijaseeker: 2:43am On Dec 16, 2018
helinues:
You guys are misinterpreting Osibanjo. What he meant was Apc government didn't close the shop instead they installed/implemented security measures to watch over the shop ( TSA, BVN).
JAMB remitted only N50million naira for good seven years , Jonathan government included. In 2017 only, JAMB remitted N7.8bn

JAMB, Customs, Immigration, FIRS have all had 100% increase in revenue in last 3 years. Their shops have not closed instead boomerang.

Pdp shop was looted for good 16 years without considering of doing something about it. Dasuki comes to mind

For clarity, TSA and BVN are Ngozi Okonjo Iweala's brainchild under Jonathan.

APC government is simply a propaganda machinery. For clarity and understanding on the fight against corruption, see the videos of Datti Baba Ahmed below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNQvnYpAOk4

and


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx7mg_322d4

Fight against corruption should be systematic, pragmatic and sustained. Immediately Buhari started with the concept that he and certain other people are above corruption, I knew we have lost the fight before it started. Everybody has the potential to be corrupt. EFCC, ICPC, DSS, President, etc.

A sincere and realistic fight against corruption will systematically identify what is corruption. There will not be room for assumptions. Are we fighting mere stealing, embezzlement, bribery, extortion, systematic and legally supported public fund mismanagement, use of security vote, improper award of contracts, improper and unfair allocation of public funds. Police extortion, improper subsidization of government workers etc.

Then identify the different institutions to fight it. Police will fight under the Criminal code. EFCC under its law, customs under its laws, the judiciary etc. Then develop an administrative command for coordination and liaison. This is to avoid arresting judges and declaring that corruption is a state security issue. That is also another form of corruption. Administrative harassment of judges. The assumption here is DSS are saints but judges can be corrupt. ( I laugh).

The pragmatic analysis is Buhari inherited various agencies and non was his brain child. He failed to analysis and synchronize them in order to know those to stop, new ones to start and how to maintain synthesis.

At the end of the day, he depended on public goodwill of his sainthood but the reality is, he is human, we are human and we are Nigerians. So what do we have, a Maina, Babachir Lawal, an EFCC vs DSS show of relevance and the money is still missing. This created a situation where nothing changed and people from South especially SS and SE are heavily disenfranchised and disenchanted. He told them the 97:5 ratio by the way.

So where exactly is the fight against corruption. Why is the shop still closed?

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by Nobody: 2:55am On Dec 16, 2018
Obi as a gentleman man decided not to give a rebuttal to Osinbajo. Osinbajo was very lucky because his best came when he countered Obi's responses. Obi just didn't want the fight to be dirty. Osinbajo needed to fight dirty because doing so is the hallmark of APC. They know they have no real substance.

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by mushystuff: 5:06am On Dec 16, 2018
Afamed:

There will be no shops eventually when the inventory is hourly looted by the thieves.
Obi did not say you should allow the thieves a free run. Instead u must be savvy enough to deal with the thieves whilst keeping ur shop open n even expanding operations so you don't go hungry and dependent on others for what u ought to be able to do or provide for urself.

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by goodnessme1(f): 7:41am On Dec 16, 2018
ObservantFellow:


To an Igbo man, yes. Our motivation for honest living are the stories of our fathers before us, who by sheer determination, shrugged off all obstacles to get there cool
That's why even people who don't own shops prosper still until they can afford theirs. A shop is just a site. The business are the buyers
How will he understand when Awolowo stole igbos money to give them free education.

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by sureheaven(m): 4:29pm On Dec 16, 2018
You have to first chase away thieves before you can have rest of mind and savings in that shop.

I've said it, obi is a fool, he has goofed again . cool

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by Kasco04: 4:31pm On Dec 16, 2018
XplicitDOW:
if u continue to remain in d shop and not chase d thieves one day u will come and find an empty shop

a little injury at knee can wen not treated and left alone may lead to amputation


a farmer who notice a sign of symptoms of a disease in one plant n overlooks it will one day lose its farm to d disease

a shepherd with his flocks who was attacked by a predator and do not chase after it n kill it one day will lose his flocks to d predator

the problem of pdp is dat they always don't look at future implications n dat wat brot us into dis menace

if u know u know
You said it all
Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by Omeokachie: 4:34pm On Dec 16, 2018
One is a businessman, while the other has no idea what it takes to run a business.

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by don4real18(m): 4:35pm On Dec 16, 2018
If closing the shop will cause Jamb to remit 7.8billion Naira instead of opening the shop to only remit 50million, abeg, let us close the shop

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by Nobody: 4:35pm On Dec 16, 2018
Afamed:

Stop contradicting yourself and Obi. Obi never gave any measures to combat the thieves. That was why everyone laughed at his submission yesterday. You can't keep open your shops for looters while your inventory is stolen 24hrs , eventually there will be no shops one day
you must be drunk. they laughed at his submission because thet thought it was absurd?

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by corlarthey: 4:35pm On Dec 16, 2018
If u allow thieves of ystdy get away, they will come bk to re-loot d shop.
Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by erico2k2(m): 4:36pm On Dec 16, 2018
Afamed:

There will be no shops eventually when the inventory is hourly looted by the thieves.
U 4got the bit where he said put mesures in place to reduce stealing!

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by Respect55(m): 4:36pm On Dec 16, 2018
XplicitDOW:
if u continue to remain in d shop and not chase d thieves one day u will come and find an empty shop

a little injury at knee can wen not treated and left alone may lead to amputation


a farmer who notice a sign of symptoms of a disease in one plant n overlooks it will one day lose its farm to d disease

a shepherd with his flocks who was attacked by a predator and do not chase after it n kill it one day will lose his flocks to d predator

the problem of pdp is dat they always don't look at future implications n dat wat brot us into dis menace

if u know u know
Is it that u don't understand English or u deliberately chose to look the other way?
Obi said, 'to stay in the shop and put up measures to combat future occurrences.'

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by Abudu2000(m): 4:36pm On Dec 16, 2018
Nigerians and misplaced priorities. what's all these corruption we keep talking about, is corruption the problem of the country?? the economy has shut down to nothing and one ipob fool is wailing about corruption. Nigerians are just too gullible, wish I could just go away
Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by Nobody: 4:37pm On Dec 16, 2018
No matter how much effort put in place, no matter how excellent the strategy is, no matter how briliant the team is, corruption is a deadly cancer. You must almost stop everything you plan to do in order to fight it. It is like going to the river to fetch water with a basket. If you put the best economic strategy in place while you say you will fight it and build economy, it will not work. Cabals and thieves are disastrous. They will keep destroying what you are building. You will be frustrated even by your team. Corruption is cancer. Fight it to still once and for all. Face them. Kill all of them. The only solution is to terminate them. This is my opinion.

But I do not think PMB is fighting it well. We all know that it is partial. So, both APC and PDP are nonsense parties. We are still not ready to be progressive.

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by AODT(m): 4:38pm On Dec 16, 2018
magoo10:
You cannot close shop because of thieves
Business itself is a risk

Sometimes you make profits that are more than the risk taken
Buhari has practically shut down the economy with the excuse of fighting a one sided imaginary corruption.

How do you justify a shop or business to be opened knowing fully well that proceeds will be taken by thieves. Who even does that
Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by Bede2u(m): 4:38pm On Dec 16, 2018
Afamed:

Shut up stop supporting impunity. Your Obi and PDP goofed by showing sympathy for the looters in a National Tv debate. Everyone is aware now that PDP is an avenue for looters
chai...even one like u couldnt get for this nonsense post

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by greenthangz: 4:38pm On Dec 16, 2018
XplicitDOW:
if u continue to remain in d shop and not chase d thieves one day u will come and find an empty shop

a little injury at knee can wen not treated and left alone may lead to amputation


a farmer who notice a sign of symptoms of a disease in one plant n overlooks it will one day lose its farm to d disease

a shepherd with his flocks who was attacked by a predator and do not chase after it n kill it one day will lose his flocks to d predator

the problem of pdp is dat they always don't look at future implications n dat wat brot us into dis menace

if u know u know
U still havent answered the question,would you lock the shop to prevent further attacks?

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by asobo: 4:39pm On Dec 16, 2018
helinues:
You guys are misinterpreting Osibanjo. What he meant was Apc government didn't close the shop instead they installed/implemented security measures to watch over the shop ( TSA, BVN).
JAMB remitted only N50million naira for good seven years , Jonathan government included. In 2017 only, JAMB remitted N7.8bn

JAMB, Customs, Immigration, FIRS have all had 100% increase in revenue in last 3 years. Their shops have not closed instead boomerang.

Pdp shop was looted for good 16 years without considering of doing something about it. Dasuki comes to mind
If you have someone close to you in any Nigerian varsity then you know all what Jamb is doing is stealing from innocent citizens. I see no reason whereby a student who already have a jamb admission letter and jamb score for example 2012 will be requested to still pay for another. That's corruption itself, if you know you know.

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by goaldynboy: 4:40pm On Dec 16, 2018
Most APC supporters are too daft that is why they are seeing Obi's statement literally!

Every Nigerians have seen how complete focus on corruption fighting and neglect of other segments of governance by Buhari Govt brought us to recession and acute hardship!!

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by Sapphire94: 4:42pm On Dec 16, 2018
cool
shutting your shop to chase criminals, typically means blocking your stream of income and so, cannot cater for your personal needs nor shoulder other responsibilities that you may be saddled with, and to me, that is absolutely lame & absurd.

Instead of shutting the shop to chase criminals, why not place some security measure around your shop while you still embark on your normal business activities and make more money??
I think doing it this way is a WIN-WIN for the shop owner.

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by babadee1(m): 4:42pm On Dec 16, 2018
You can stay in the shop and still pursue the thieves at the same time. The technology to do that is widely available.

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Re: Stay In The Shop To Make Money Or Shut It Down To Pursue Thieves? by Josh44s(m): 4:42pm On Dec 16, 2018
Is there no other credible party with People who have positive vision for this country? Why must it be APC or PDP. To me both parties are one and are all working together to deceive Nigerians. The media isn’t helping matters at all in this country. They play a major role in destroying this nation.

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