I saw what a corper posted on fb today and i posted it on my status, so some aggressive girl picked offense and started saying many things, English is not a measure of intelligence is all i could pick from all she said, and i decided to bring the argument here, contributions please.

Intelligence dey different types. Book intelligence is different from common sense, common sense is different from being sensitive...all controlled by the brain though. Even d book intelligence is subdivided. A linguistic student can be good in speaking English but olodo in maths or chemistry.

However if you find a lady who's a legend in her field, its most likely she'll have the kind of intelligence that makes a complementary wife bcus intelligence is not only hereditary, it's also borne of deep thoughts which many women lack.

Like most times in sch, while you see the guys sitting with their assignments by themselves, the ladies are always hopping from one guy to the other..."pls come help me do my assignment"..that's what you'll hear usually. You hardly find a do-it-yourself girl who does her stuffs and even help others...dem no dey.

Try fail English in Waec first

hibiscus76:
Try fail English in Waec first

You don't understand me dear, i am the one disagreeing with the notion, i told her English is a measure of intelligence but she is disagreeing, maybe she can't speak English too.

StylesX:
You don't understand me dear, i am the one disagreeing with the notion, i told her English is a measure of intelligence but she is disagreeing, maybe she can't speak English too.

Fuency in English language is not conclusive of intelligence. Not everyone that speaks English fluently Is intelligent. Also not every one who does not speak English language fluently is dull.

StylesX:
I saw what a corper posted on fb today and i posted it on my status, so some aggressive girl picked offense and started saying many things, English is not a measure of intelligence is all i could pick from all she said, and i decided to bring the argument here, contributions please.

Being able to speak English is NOT a measure of intelligence. There are whole countries were English is not spoken at all and they have space programmes and very intelligent beings there. Thinking it is a measure of intelligence is a throw back to a colonial past that made us subservient to our own capabilities.

While English language is not a measure of intelligence, it is expected that one who is educated in Nigeria should have good command or average command of the language considering that it is both the language of business and the language of teaching/learning.

That said, a university graduate with terrible command of English language cannot be said to be intelligent, if she/he was, she/he wouldn't have terrible command of the language.

Thank You

StylesX:
You don't understand me dear, i am the one disagreeing with the notion, i told her English is a measure of intelligence but she is disagreeing, maybe she can't speak English too.

And I put it to you English is not a measure intelligence.

Do you know English is a people language just like Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa?...An imposed English language can't be measure of intellectual to a any non-english person..Go to any English owned countries like Britain and others you'll highly discover an English man that speak fluent english but is completely intact with empty illogical Brain.I'm still waiting for when an average English man will be teach Igbo language and he'll write and speak it impeccably to the affirmation of slavery metalized blacks like one of you....no insult just my opinion.

TonyeBarcanista:
While English language is not a measure of intelligence, it is expected that one who is educated in Nigeria should have good command or average command of the language considering that it is both the language of business and the language of teaching.

That said, a university graduate with terrible command of English language cannot be said to be intelligent, if she/he was, she/he wouldn't have terrible command of the language.

Thank You

reason for this thread!! English has nothing to do with intelligence. It’s a misguided misconception that needs to change.. English is not our mother tongue .

All I see here is a wide misconception of the word " measure " with respect to connotation.

Most people say English isnt a measurement of intelligence, well that's their opinion. Personally, i equate people style of enunciation to match thier level of intelligence quotient, I never get it wrong when i put you in a category of IQ range using your communication skill.

Here is the logic.

The more you read or get exposed to more vocabulary, you learn more words to easily express yourself. Which is in great contrast to people who weren't exposed to too many vocabulary hence, it gets difficult to express themselves and this often leads to conflict, misjudgement or even trouble because you lack the capability to express yourself due to few words in your brain.

Shugavee:
reason for this thread!! English has nothing to do with intelligence. It’s a misguided misconception that needs to change.. English is not our mother tongue .

Were you taught tenses, grammar, comprehension, writing etc in your native language? NO

Was your organisation education done in your native language? NO

Is your native language the language of business in Nigeria? NO

So having terrible command of the English language is a pointer that the person isn't intelligent.

Nope. English is just 1 language out of over 1000 languages

aaronson:
Most people say English isnt a measurement of intelligence, well that's their opinion. Personally, i equate people style of enunciation to match thier level of intelligence quotient, I never get it wrong when i put you in a category of IQ range using your communication skill.

Here is the logic.

The more you read or get exposed to more vocabulary, you learn more words to easily express yourself. Which is in great contrast to people who weren't exposed to too many vocabulary hence, it gets difficult to express themselves and this often leads to conflict, misjudgement or even trouble because you lack the capability to express yourself due to few words in your brain.

Thank you for saving me the stress. Leave those people saying English is just a language as if in French or Spanish-speaking countries, inability to properly express yourself in a language which is supposed to be your first language will not be a problem.

TonyeBarcanista:

Were you taught tenses, grammar, comprehension, writing isn't etc in your native language? NO

Was your organisation education done in your native language? NO

Is your native language language of business in Nigeria? NO

So having terrible command of the English language is a pointer that the person isn't intelligent.

Thank you. Nigerian youths must have the lowest collective IQ in the world. Simple thing dem no fit understand.

aaronson:
Most people say English isnt a measurement of intelligence, well that's their opinion. Personally, i equate people style of enunciation to match thier level of intelligence quotient, I never get it wrong when i put you in a category of IQ range using your communication skill.

Here is the logic.

The more you read or get exposed to more vocabulary, you learn more words to easily express yourself. Which is in great contrast to people who weren't exposed to too many vocabulary hence, it gets difficult to express themselves and this often leads to conflict, misjudgement or even trouble because you lack the capability to express yourself due to few words in your brain.

I disagree... are you implying that a man who spent most of his life in the village and speaks no word of English is unintelligent?.... I have seen dull people who speak.impeccable English....but apart from their proficiency in English, na fufu full their head.

babyfaceafrica:
I disagree... are you implying that a man who spend most of his life in the village and speaks no word of English is unintelligent?.... I have seen dull people who speak.impeccable English....but apart from their proficiency in English, na fufu full their head.

well, let me admit this but usually its few and mostly the female gender, these set of people has the ability to adapt if you care to get them to learn because they already know the basics which facilitates learning and quick understanding and what is that basic? Good communication skill.

English can never be a yardstick for intelligence, what of those in the village that never attended any formal education, the way you handle things around you, one can tell if you are intelligent or not, even if you are a farmer or a fisher man you can always tell, there are some excellent speakers that still come to me ( average) for help on highly intellectual matters, if English is a measure of intelligence, then most slay queens would be glad.

This is interesting. Good .

Lonestar124:
And I put it to you English is not a measure intelligence.

Do you know English is a people language just like Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa?...An imposed English language can't be measure of intellectual to a any non-english person..Go to any English owned countries like Britain and others you'll highly discover an English man that speak fluent english but is completely intact with empty illogical Brain.I'm still waiting for when an average English man will be teach Igbo language and he'll write and speak it impeccably to the affirmation of slavery metalized blacks like one of you....no insult just my opinion.

You certainly one of the sane minds on this platform. I liked dz ur comment.

Lonestar124:
And I put it to you English is not a measure intelligence.

Do you know English is a people language just like Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa?...An imposed English language can't be measure of intellectual to a any non-english person..Go to any English owned countries like Britain and others you'll highly discover an English man that speak fluent english but is completely intact with empty illogical Brain.I'm still waiting for when an average English man will be teach Igbo language and he'll write and speak it impeccably to the affirmation of slavery metalized blacks like one of you....no insult just my opinion.

You certainly one of the sane minds on this platform. I liked dz ur comment.

Still weird how the PROGRAMMING could still be this potent on dz 'mental slaves".

Some of our scholars even find it difficult to express themselves in their NATIVE LANGUAGE?? Modern Slavery @ play, I guess

TonyeBarcanista:

Were you taught tenses, grammar, comprehension, writing etc in your native language? NO

Was your organisation education done in your native language? NO

Is your native language the language of business in Nigeria? NO

So having terrible command of the English language is a pointer that the person isn't intelligent.

This is fallacious

Please if we going by the post of that corper making the rounds, then it is safe to say she isn't intelligent.
First of all,her official language is English, she went to school for 18 years or more and yet she still can't string a proper sentence together...
Secondly, how was her idea passed to her lecturers during exams??
Look, I have a few intelligent guys,way brilliant than me wey dey drop bomb steady when they talk or write simple grammar,but this chicks own is abysmal, its way too poor, look you can't be this poor in English and want people to cut you some slack, we need to get her off our borders...How did she graduate for goodness sake!??

Some are even shy to speak der native dialect in public...wtf! We no even like to read anything written in our respective native languages.....the programmin z really STRONG.

Whites will never really respect us until we stop dz foolish copy-copy mentality!

Well, I'm a victim too but mo tin jara mi!!

StylesX:
I saw what a corper posted on fb today and i posted it on my status, so some aggressive girl picked offense and started saying many things, English is not a measure of intelligence is all i could pick from all she said, and i decided to bring the argument here, contributions please.

English fluency may not be an established measure of intelligence in the large scheme of things. However, in a country like Nigeria where English isn't our first language and where most people are first exposed to English language in schools, when other yardsticks of measurement are absent, an individuals command of English language can be used as a first pointer to measure the person's intelligence/aptitude.

With regards to the corper girl with the appalling English grammar, I'm sorry to say but she must be dumb. After attending different levels of school for at least 18 years of her life, if she can't still string together a simple decent sentence, or spell simple words correctly, then her aptitude for learning must be very low.

StylesX:
I saw what a corper posted on fb today and i posted it on my status, so some aggressive girl picked offense and started saying many things, English is not a measure of intelligence is all i could pick from all she said, and i decided to bring the argument here, contributions please.

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It is never a measure of intelligent.

LuvSwollenPussy:
Intelligence dey different types. Book intelligence is different from common sense, common sense is different from being sensitive...all controlled by the brain though. Even d book intelligence is subdivided.

Are this really the types of intelligence you could come up with?

Most of this Chinese people don’t speak English a lot but but they did better than us in almost everything...

There are a lot of country who dont speak English and are ahead of our fucking country who carry English for head

MissRaine69:

Being able to speak English is NOT a measure of intelligence. There are whole countries were English is not spoken at all and they have space programmes and very intelligent beings there. Thinking it is a measure of intelligence is a throw back to a colonial past that made us subservient to our own capabilities.

...countries where...