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Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by martineverest(m): 10:14am On Dec 19, 2018
Nigerian mentality.. especially those with low self esteem.

Chinese,Indians,most Europeans don't speak English and they are highly intelligent

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Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by martineverest(m): 10:15am On Dec 19, 2018
Nwamaka1419:
do you value English more than your native language
nice question
Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by Nobody: 10:17am On Dec 19, 2018
MissRaine69:

Being able to speak English is NOT a measure of intelligence. There are whole countries were English is not spoken at all and they have space programmes and very intelligent beings there. Thinking it is a measure of intelligence is a throw back to a colonial past that made us subservient to our own capabilities.
marry me!!
Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by neonly: 10:18am On Dec 19, 2018
China comes to my mind
Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by Fash20: 10:18am On Dec 19, 2018
Mizk:
I think if you're intelligent you should be able to know words, piece one and two together and form simple sentences, especially if thats the language they use to teach you in school, everyone can't do that, some can't even remember words so i guess those who can are more intelligent than those who can't, if its easy everyone would be doing it.

Knowledge and intelligence are two different things.
Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by Nobody: 10:18am On Dec 19, 2018
StylesX:
You don't understand me dear, i am the one disagreeing with the notion, i told her English is a measure of intelligence but she is disagreeing, maybe she can't speak English too.
Are you saying everyone on the earth surface who isn't fluent in speaking English is not intelligent?. undecided you sure have a myopic view . There is life beyond the shores of Nigeria. Maybe you should visit China and Russia first ,I bet your mind perception about what constitutes intelligence will broaden undecided.

It will,shock you to know that even you don't speak English fluently as far as Britons are concerned undecided
Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by hedonistic: 10:18am On Dec 19, 2018
The more important question to ask is: Is having money a measure of intelligence? Is being broke a measure of lack of intelligence?
Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by Emperor2463(m): 10:19am On Dec 19, 2018
I have seen an officer who is so good in English but she can't write ordinary statement

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Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by lloyds(m): 10:19am On Dec 19, 2018
Is Dangote dull ? Is he fluent in English. How about Adenuga. .
It is a language, in which some people got properly groomed with it even from their childhood homes due to parents vastness.

But NO, it's just a type /way of communication.
Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by stanliwise(m): 10:20am On Dec 19, 2018
intelligence is not as a result of education it is in-born. I feel this OP is talking about mental achievement.
Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by Nobody: 10:21am On Dec 19, 2018
TonyeBarcanista:

Were you taught tenses, grammar, comprehension, writing etc in your native language? NO

Was your organisation education done in your native language? NO

Is your native language the language of business in Nigeria? NO

So having terrible command of the English language is a pointer that the person isn't intelligent.


another colonised person

In many places in nigeria businesses are done in local languages, igbo, youruba or hausa

even teaching is done in local languages, english is just a secondary language
Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by Fash20: 10:22am On Dec 19, 2018
The question should be: Is articulation really a measure of intelligence. I actually think it is

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Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by lloyds(m): 10:23am On Dec 19, 2018
hedonistic:
The more important question to as is: Is having money a measure of intelligence? Is being broke a measure of lack of intelligence?

It requires a good level of business intelligence to make money. . But we have some rare case too.

I think wealth is mostly a blessing from God, He decides whom He gives. .
Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by Magnuschase: 10:23am On Dec 19, 2018
Fluency in English is not necessarily a measure of intelligence.
Although, there have been studies that have shown a relationship with fluency in a language and overall intelligence.
It's not an exact science.
Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by Mosco100(m): 10:23am On Dec 19, 2018
It really is also that.
Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by Nobody: 10:23am On Dec 19, 2018
English is not a measure of intelligence.

The ability to seek and have knowledge and also apply that knowledge in any language and form is a measure of intelligence.
Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by monimekaz(m): 10:23am On Dec 19, 2018
StylesX:
I saw what a corper posted on fb today and i posted it on my status, so some aggressive girl picked offense and started saying many things, English is not a measure of intelligence is all i could pick from all she said, and i decided to bring the argument here, contributions please.

Colonial mentality ..When has fluency in English become a yardstick for measuring people's intelligence?? This sounds awkward..I have this imagery that the person asking this question has self esteem problem
Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by stanliwise(m): 10:25am On Dec 19, 2018
martineverest:
Nigerian mentality.. especially those with low self esteem.

Chinese,Indians,most Europeans don't speak English and they are highly intelligent
you should say they are high achiever as intelligence is found everywhere in the world. infact an uneducated man can be more intelligent than a professor because intelligence means a test of in-born brain-power. Educationist knows this.
Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by hahn(m): 10:26am On Dec 19, 2018
booket:
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It is never a measure of intelligent.

Why you no go talk like that?

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Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by Sammiejokes(m): 10:26am On Dec 19, 2018
How can speaking English equate to intelligence? I am the only black in my office, my English is not smooth compare to my colleagues but I know I am competent on the job just like any other white and they know I have the technical ability to get my job done. They may express themselves way better but that does not mean they are smarter. Having social skill and confidence is far better for a man than speaking impeccable English.

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Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by Nobody: 10:26am On Dec 19, 2018
Knowing formal English or one's official language doesn't automatically mean being intelligent. Brilliance is different from intelligence. Intelligence is superior to brilliance. All one need to be brilliant is focus and dedication in the area of one's academic or formal interest. Take that boy called grammarnazi1 of nairaland for example. He is not intelligent, but he knows above average about grammar.

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Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by GRACEGLORY: 10:27am On Dec 19, 2018
StylesX:
I saw what a corper posted on fb today and i posted it on my status, so some aggressive girl picked offense and started saying many things, English is not a measure of intelligence is all i could pick from all she said, and i decided to bring the argument here, contributions please.


If it's a measure of intelligence, how come our English teachers/lecturers, Professors, and all those who speaks English fluently ain't doing excellently in life endeavors. Articulation has nothing to do with intelligence. Intelligence is basically the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills, intelligence deals with discernment.
I've met graduates who blows this grammar like sey tomorrow no dey, still on still, nothing to show for it. One na even conductor sef, some of dem babes are looking for yahoo boys to survive on.
Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by Nobody: 10:27am On Dec 19, 2018
Nairalanders are funny people
So all this Naija Economy wah don Scatter Scatter na intelligence
You can see de way de so called professors hav scattered Niagara
Things went from bad to worse and you think Speaking English means you're intelligent
No intelligence means being able to make use of brain for better growth or Development
Our forefathers handle things better than we do
and they can't say come talk of say English

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Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by ahiboilandgas: 10:28am On Dec 19, 2018
StylesX:
I saw what a corper posted on fb today and i posted it on my status, so some aggressive girl picked offense and started saying many things, English is not a measure of intelligence is all i could pick from all she said, and i decided to bring the argument here, contributions please.
super intelligent Germans and Chinese rarely speak English...
Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by blingxx(m): 10:29am On Dec 19, 2018
mosefin19:
Most of this Chinese people don’t speak English a lot but but they did better than us in almost everything...

There are a lot of country who dont speak English and are ahead of our fucking country who carry English for head

I have a friend who is very good in maths, but this guy can hardly speak English fluently undecided
Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by BillgatesMaigad(m): 10:30am On Dec 19, 2018
OP Fluency in English language is not a yardstick to measure intelligence. Haven't you seen people that speak English very well but can not read?
Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by Nobody: 10:30am On Dec 19, 2018
StylesX:
I saw what a corper posted on fb today and i posted it on my status, so some aggressive girl picked offense and started saying many things, English is not a measure of intelligence is all i could pick from all she said, and i decided to bring the argument here, contributions please.
the ability to speak English is generally a function of association with people who speak this language.
but fluency its a whole new ball game,fluency varies because some know how to construct sentences with words that are new to others .and this is mostly as a result of a wider range of knowledge,making that person seem smarter.
that's why we expect academically bouyant people to speak good English.people like our professors, lectures,lawyers and governmental offices.
Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by Pastev1(m): 10:31am On Dec 19, 2018
The truth there my dear is that one might be opportune to associate to English people without being educated, he/she can speak English very fluently. That does not measure her level of intellect. Thanks
Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by Flawlessangel(m): 10:31am On Dec 19, 2018
It's like this. If you were taught to speak English in school up until you graduated and yet you can't speak good English or construct words properly then you are dull. No questions asked

Now for those who never visited the four walls of a school, this does not apply to you as your measure of intelligence cannot judge by what u were never taught in the first place

Good day

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Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by Nobody: 10:32am On Dec 19, 2018
Fash20:
The question should be: Is articulation really a measure of intelligence.

articulation is not also a measure of intelligence

to be articulate means you have a good verbal ability and communication skills:there isnt much correlation between articulation and intelligence there are many people who are articulate when speaking but are stupid, naive and short-sighted.
Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by yasolan(m): 10:32am On Dec 19, 2018
Some of us still don't get these things.
We are comparing an official English speaking nation to another nation whose official language isn't English for example China.
A Chinese man living in China isn't saddled with the responsibility to speak English either on the average or at standard.
And those talks about it being out colonial masters and mental slavery bullshit. Goddammit!! undecided
Why would someone after passing through the 6-3-3-4 system of education still not be able to speak or write good english(at least devoid of spelling errors).
A born and bred Nigerian still living in Nigeria, should be able to write and speak good english.
Good day.

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Re: Is Fluency In English Not Really A Measure Of Intelligence? by tiwiex(m): 10:32am On Dec 19, 2018
MJBOLT:
English Is not a measure of intelligence

I agree. It is not. What if you speak French? Does it make you less intelligent. Many Nobel prices in the sciences are won by non-English speaking individuals. We are exposed to English and just got carried away like say na only we dey.

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