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Ibime:


Nothing unthinkable about using Aragones Spanish midfield with Messi to win treble.

Unthinkable is using Porto to win treble with Benni McCarthy and co.

U forgot to add not winning ucl with a worldclass madrid side having c.ronaldo is unthinkable too?

popizaino:

U forgot to add not winning ucl with a worldclass madrid side having c.ronaldo is unthinkable too?

That's a perennial 2nd round team he took to 3 consecutive semis. We can consider that unlucky.

Ibime:


Don't bother argue with that guy. This is Madrid UCL record before Mourinho took over. 6 seasons in a row getting knocked out in 2nd round before Mourinho re-established them as a semi-final team.

I mentioned this to Raumdeuter but he said Ronaldo and Ramos were serial winners

Ibime claims that winning trophies with Messi and Ronaldo doesn't count because they are the goats but conveniently ignores the fact that mourinho coached the Ronaldo for three years without winning the UCL

Ibime:


Don't bother argue with that guy. This is Madrid UCL record before Mourinho took over. 6 seasons in a row getting knocked out in 2nd round before Mourinho re-established them as a semi-final team.

Barcelona la liga position before guardiola took over in 2 separate years.

randomperson:
Ibime claims that winning trophies with Messi and Ronaldo doesn't count because they are the goats but conveniently ignores the fact that mourinho coached the Ronaldo for three years without winning the UCL

Don't mind him, he is using his hands to choke himself.

randomperson:
Ibime claims that winning trophies with Messi and Ronaldo doesn't count because they are the goats but conveniently ignores the fact that mourinho coached the Ronaldo for three years without winning the UCL

homesteady:


Don't mind him, he is using his hands to choke himself.

Greatness lies in overcoming odds, not in meeting expectations.

Mourinho is greater than Pep.

Ibime:


That's a perennial 2nd round team he took to 3 consecutive semis. We can consider that unlucky.

The perennial 2nd round team you are referring to was bolstered with top players just a season before Mourinho came. There was a massive clear out and millions was spent to rebuild that squad. It is very logical for an almost new squad to have initial teething problems and fire on later on. So you guys should stop this myth of Mourinho waving his magic wand to save Madrid from distress.

Since the beginning of this decade, all the Coaches that have managed a team with a Balon d'or winner for more than 2 years have won a Champions league except Mourinho. Mourinho had 2 of such players and a potential 3rd, yet he couldn't win Shiit.

Ibime:


Don't bother argue with that guy. This is Madrid UCL record before Mourinho took over. 6 seasons in a row getting knocked out in 2nd round before Mourinho re-established them as a semi-final team.

Nor mind them. To talk true go Dey hard them due to sentiments.

Ibime:


That's a perennial 2nd round team he took to 3 consecutive semis. We can consider that unlucky.

You are unlucky when you dominate and lose not when you defend and can't make the finals .case in pep Guardiola's bayern Munich in the semi finals

popizaino:




Can you notice how your comments are not correlating ?


Barca were top team like man United,Liverpool and co and jump to real madrid were been knocked out by lyon .

Was not correlating there? Barca were top team before pep took over. Real Madrid were struggling when Mou took over. Fact. Pep weakened Bayern Munich before leaving to sugar daddies (man city).

Ibime:




Greatness lies in overcoming odds, not in meeting expectations.

Mourinho is greater than Pep.

And he has 3 sack letters in his archives, while all the Clubs Pep Coached would welcome him back and declare public holiday for the welcome back party.

homesteady:


The perennial 2nd round team you are referring to was bolstered with top players just a season before Mourinho came. There was a massive clear out and millions was spent to rebuild that squad. It is very logical for an almost new squad to have initial teething problems and fire on later on. So you guys should stop this myth of Mourinho waving his magic wand to save Madrid from distress.

Since the beginning of this decade, all the Coaches that have managed a team with a Balon d'or winner for more than 2 years have won a Champions league except Mourinho. Mourinho had 2 of such players and a potential 3rd, yet he couldn't win Shiit.

Pep carried a treble winning Bayern team, consecutive UCL finalists, finalists in 3 of the 4 last UCLS before he joined, full of World Cup winners and led them to embarrassing disgrace back-to-back in UCL by cricket scorelines. How about that?

All this unnecessary back and forth can be ended by one simple question... at this moment in time, who would you rather have as manager of your team: Pep or Jose!?

Any other discussion na just to dey waste spit!

hensben:
Was not correlating there? Barca were top team before pep took over. Real Madrid were struggling when Mou took over. Fact. Pep weakened Bayern Munich before leaving to sugar daddies (man city).

It's strenuous arguing with you .
Take care and be good.

hensben:
Was not correlating there? Barca were top team before pep took over. Real Madrid were struggling when Mou took over. Fact. Pep weakened Bayern Munich before leaving to sugar daddies (man city).

How was Barca a team that went 2yrs trophyless a top team and how was Madrid a team that won 2 league titles 2 consecutive years struggling

Ibime:


Pep carried a treble winning Bayern team, consecutive UCL finalists, finalists in 3 of the 4 last UCLS before he joined, full of World Cup winners and led them to embarrassing disgrace back-to-back in UCL by cricket scorelines. How about that?

Even though he lost the Semi-final by embarrassing monkey-post scores to the eventual winners, was there even an rumour that Pep was going to be sacked? Nah!! There are levels to this Shiit. He left with high recommendations, went to Mou's EPL, boxed him into near delirium and finally knocked him out, in the same City!!

Ibime:


The cancelled is all local nonsense. You went to bring local achievements because Pep does not have real achievements. Everything I cancelled, Mourinho achieved in LaLiga, I did not mention it. Pep is a local manager.

Desperation even made you to go add Supercups and Club world cups to find sextuple achievement for Guardiola. Simple achievements Mourinho would have recorded had he stayed at Porto and Inter after winning trebles with them. The only manager to win trebles in 2 different countries.

Any non-local achievement you mentioned was achieved with Messi et al. Pep is nothing but a Phil Scolari, with no achievements of his own. Carryalong manager.

I intentionally added the EPL records because that was where Mourinho wanted them to meet, on Mourinhos turf same league same City after 2.5yrs One broke all records, One got the sack

There was a reason I didnt include the Bundesliga records Pep had

In addition to what I have before


Only 1 coach has won 3 FIFA club world cup titles - Guardiola
Only 2 coaches have won 3 UEFA Super cup titles - Ancelotti and Guardiola
On the flip side, Only 1 coach has lost the UEFA Super cup 4 - Mourinho
Since Messi and Ronaldo reign began only 2 coaches have spent a full season with Ronaldo and not won the CL - Pellegrini and Mourinho

RuuDie:
All this unnecessary back and forth can be ended by one simple question... at this moment in time, who would you rather have as manager of your team: Pep or Jose!?

Any other discussion na just to dey waste spit!

Ibime said Mourinho's time has come, so he would definitely pick Fraudiola..

I'd really like to hear it from his mouth. Ibime, between Mourinho and Fraudiola, who would you pick to coach your dear Chelsea assuming if Sarri decides to retire today?

Ibime:


Porto and Intermilan did that in 2004 and 2010.

Infact, if you're talking minor treble, Porto did same with UEFA Cup in 2003.

Ibime can you prove with $100 backing that Porto won the treble in 2004?

nihilistjnr, boardman please take collection

sleekdot:


How was Barca a team that went 2yrs trophyless a top team and how was Madrid a team that won 2 league titles 2 consecutive years struggling

How is Klose that won only two league titles and scored little over 200 goals in his career better than Zlatan that won more than 10 league titles and scored more than 400 goals??

hensben:
Are you aware Real Madrid were struggling when Mou arrived. He made Real Madrid formidable again which Zidane and ancelotti enjoyed. Pep left Bayern in a weaker State, came to sugar daddies(man city).

As for you, you need to pick a struggle. You can't on one hand argue that Hazard should have been one of the greatest ever if not for his Coach and on the The other hand still say that Coach is the next best thing after Coldstone ice-cream.

Don't you realize that your Hazard fantasy would have come to reality if Pep was his Coach? Although I doubt it sha, Shakushaku is deeply ingrained in his genes.

Lana1:
How is Klose that won only two league titles and scored little over 200 goals in his career better than Zlatan that won more than 10 league titles and scored more than 400 goals??

Because Klose won a world cup and was top scorer of all time at the world cup a bigger competition than anything Zlatan did

Same reason Zidane is better than Delpiero despite DelPiero doing better in leagues, Zidanes exploits at bigger competitions makes him superior

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijunxgdv2uI




Look at supposed better barcelona against real madrid in el- classico a season before pep guardiola took over.

sleekdot:


Ibime can you prove with $100 backing that Porto won the treble in 2004?

nihilistjnr, boardman please take collection

I'm around bro.

popizaino:

Look at supposed better barcelona against real madrid in el- classico a season before pep guardiola took over.

Barcelona finished 18points behind the league winner before Guardiola took over. 12 months later they have won the sextuple

nihilistjnr:
I'm around bro.

Good so ibime $100 to prove Porto won the treble in 2004 as stated by you

All winnings I will donate to the house

I trust ibime wont be using lies to garnish his arguments

sleekdot:


Good so ibime $100 to prove Porto won the treble in 2004 as stated by you

All winnings I will donate to the house

I trust ibime wont be using lies to garnish his arguments

I am also part of the house o...

including my board man fees

homesteady:


Ibime said Mourinho's time has come, so he would definitely pick Fraudiola..

I'd really like to hear it from his mouth. Ibime, between Mourinho and Fraudiola, who would you pick to coach your dear Chelsea assuming if Sarri decides to retire today?

The fact that he will pick pep over Mou currently doesn’t make the former greater than the later.

Mou>>pep any time any day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHGRRCWORF0




It was an arsenal reject juliu bastita doing the damage to better top barcelona on their home group before pep guardiola took over with Luiz aragones midfielders playing .

hensben:
The fact that he will pick pep over Mou currently doesn’t make the former greater than the later.

Mou>>pep any time any day.

If Mou is >> Pep, then why wont you want to pick the greater person to manage your club?