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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:37pm On Dec 19, 2018
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 3:45pm On Dec 19, 2018
rvp2018:
Nigeria are good only in acting witchcraft movies. Looking at the Oscars....and South Africa dominate - with kenya featuring twice - Lupita Nyongo winning the Actresses in supporting role and Mark People winning in 1970s for The Last Emperor.

No Nigeria has ever come close. Local movies - at least nearly every year a kenyan movie is nowadays in serious contention for oscars's foreign movies

As of 2018 - it the same story - Kenya and South Africa films dominate nomination for OSCARS. This year Kenya's Watu Wote was nominated.

https://face2faceafrica.com/article/watch-kenyan-and-south-african-films-nominated-for-the-oscars
Both of them short films grin

Good luck though, y'all can keep winning Oscars, we will keep developing our nollywood.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darfay: 3:50pm On Dec 19, 2018
Jonraid:
Instagram thots are what they are proud of. Their ladies are the Semenya type,the effects of pounded yam and rat stew is very evident in their physicality!


Pounded yam doesn't go well with stew. You can order from any of the Niger restaurant in Nairobi
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:52pm On Dec 19, 2018
You need to develop the industry beyond witchcraft. I mean you got huge stories in Niger Delta, Boko haram, Fulani herdsmen killing farmers, and all you do is witchcraft, love potion and all sort of vodooo & juju.

Making a movie or a film should start with writing a serious script - not just arming yourself with cheap camera and tripod - and you go shooting total shitty skits - and claim we got HIGHEST AMOUNT OF SHITMOVIES -after bollywood.

The last few years these are some kenya films considered for Oscars.
Nairobi Half Life - Lupita was star actor before she got discovered by Hollywood. Lupita is probably crossing more money per yr than entire Nollywood
Kati Kati,
Supa Mode
Watu Wote
This year Rafiki (a lesbian move) has won many international awards.

South Africa obviously another story for another decade smiley

Ibrahimanis:

Both of them short films grin

Good luck though, y'all can keep winning Oscars, we will keep developing our nollywood.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 3:53pm On Dec 19, 2018
NairobiWalker:


Mr. Forgiveness, here is your list of skyscrapers in Lagos.
We've already figured the Ministry of Communication tower is non-existent. That left us with 12

Now Eko Tower is only 87.11m, that leaves us with 11

Bourdilon tower is not 100m, that leaves us with 10

Please, stop insisting on the 13 figure.
hahahaha Mad man and you think eko towers aint different from Eko Tower II...

The first pics is Eko towers, second pic is Eko Tower II

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 4:04pm On Dec 19, 2018
tylann:
they can't believe it that Kenya is this fine without any natural resource and kenya would have been better without corruption

STOP DECEIVING your selves, Even Niger republic, Somalia and poor countries have nice places as well. our issues with you Kenyans is that, you celebrate just 2% of your developed parts(reasons why you kept recycling same pics )while leaving the rest to rot, we all knw that Nairobi cbd has long been developed by the Europeans master and that Kenyans can not built any new city from scratch, evidence been Tatu ,konza cities tongue tongue tongue tongue

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darfay: 4:06pm On Dec 19, 2018
tylann:
they have been growing at faster rate than Kenya for 10 years now but Kenya keeps on widening the GDP gap


Examine the scene in what you wrote
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 4:09pm On Dec 19, 2018
rvp2018:
You need to develop the industry beyond witchcraft. I mean you got huge stories in Niger Delta, Boko haram, Fulani herdsmen killing farmers, and all you do is witchcraft, love potion and all sort of vodooo & juju.

Making a movie or a film should start with writing a serious script - not just arming yourself with cheap camera and tripod - and you go shooting total shitty skits - and claim we got HIGHEST AMOUNT OF SHITMOVIES -after bollywood.

The last few years these are some kenya films considered for Oscars.
Nairobi Half Life - Lupita was star actor before she got discovered by Hollywood. Lupita is probably crossing more money per yr than entire Nollywood
Kati Kati,
Supa Mode
Watu Wote
This year Rafiki (a lesbian move) has won many international awards.

South Africa obviously another story for another decade smiley

same way David Oyelowo, “Chiwetel” Ejiofor, Hakeem Kae-Kazim and many other Nigerians in Hollywood generates more income than your dead country

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:12pm On Dec 19, 2018
None of those are Nigerians. Chiwetel Umeadi Ejiofor CBE is an English actor - his parents Nigerian(but they don't act smiley). I don't have to go thro the list of the other unkowns. Lupita is a kenyan brought up here, with home here, studied here and went for university at Yale. She acted locally before going big. Our films are breeding grounds for word class acting. We are 2nd to South Africa. Nigeria you produce shit witchraft movies nobody serious watches. Chiwetel Umeadi Ejiofor would be found dead acting in Igbo witchcraft movie smiley
68816419:

same way David Oyelowo, “Chiwetel” Ejiofor, Hakeem Kae-Kazim and many other Nigerians in Hollywood generates more income than your dead country

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:17pm On Dec 19, 2018
You percentage are wrong. Try 95% good with 5% shitty looking like Nigeria. As for white and black. They left kenya in 1963 (or you think we kept them secretly after fighting for independence smiley). That clearly is lame excuse. You got OIL - you've earned more than 600B dollars. We got nothing. But we have built now 6 modern cities - and several towns. All that from selling coffee beans, tea leaves and letting whites people come watch our animals for a small fee.
68816419:


STOP DECEIVING your selves, Even Niger republic, Somalia and poor countries have nice places as well. our issues with you Kenyans is that, you celebrate just 2% of your developed parts(reasons why you kept recycling same pics )while leaving the rest to rot, we all knw that Nairobi cbd has long been developed by the Europeans master and that Kenyans can not built any new city from scratch, evidence been Tatu ,konza cities tongue tongue tongue tongue

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 4:25pm On Dec 19, 2018
rvp2018:
You need to develop the industry beyond witchcraft. I mean you got huge stories in Niger Delta, Boko haram, Fulani herdsmen killing farmers, and all you do is witchcraft, love potion and all sort of vodooo & juju.

Making a movie or a film should start with writing a serious script - not just arming yourself with cheap camera and tripod - and you go shooting total shitty skits - and claim we got HIGHEST AMOUNT OF SHITMOVIES -after bollywood.

The last few years these are some kenya films considered for Oscars.
Nairobi Half Life - Lupita was star actor before she got discovered by Hollywood. Lupita is probably crossing more money per yr than entire Nollywood
Kati Kati,
Supa Mode
Watu Wote
This year Rafiki (a lesbian move) has won many international awards.

South Africa obviously another story for another decade smiley

I know nollywood is growing too fast but Please try to keep up,

The days of witchcraft and voodoo are "almost gone" 2010 to 2018 has been a tremendous success story for nollywood. Check out, Arbitration, the CEO, 76, October 1st, half a yellow sun, 93 days, if I am president e.t.c (non of them are comedy)

Really, how much does lupita gross per year then?

King of Boys was released this October and it already grossed 200mil naira (and it's still running) it has a rating of 9.2/10 by Imdb, the highest by a nollywood movie. And it's still not the highest grossing Nigerian movie. That honour goes to the wedding party, grossed 500mil naira in Nigeria alone, theatrical screening, DVD sales and online streaming outside Nigeria are not included. Take that Kenya! grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 4:31pm On Dec 19, 2018
rvp2018:
None of those are Nigerians. Chiwetel Umeadi Ejiofor CBE is an English actor - his parents Nigerian(but they don't act smiley). I don't have to go thro the list of the other unkowns. Lupita is a kenyan brought up here, with home here, studied here and went for university at Yale. She acted locally before going big. Our films are breeding grounds for word class acting. [b]We are 2nd to South Africa. Nigeria you produce shit witchraft movies nobody serious watches. [/b]Chiwetel Umeadi Ejiofor would be found dead acting in Igbo witchcraft movie smiley

grin grin grin grin grin grin Kenya of all places? and how comes Nigeria movies industry is the second largest movies industry in the world behind Bollywood and our worst films generated more profit than your best films?
never for once knw Kenyans produces movies, i only know of Tanzanians film industry. grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 4:34pm On Dec 19, 2018
rvp2018:
You need to develop the industry beyond witchcraft. I mean you got huge stories in Niger Delta, Boko haram, Fulani herdsmen killing farmers, and all you do is witchcraft, love potion and all sort of vodooo & juju.

Making a movie or a film should start with writing a serious script - not just arming yourself with cheap camera and tripod - and you go shooting total shitty skits - and claim we got HIGHEST AMOUNT OF SHITMOVIES -after bollywood.

The last few years these are some kenya films considered for Oscars.
Nairobi Half Life - Lupita was star actor before she got discovered by Hollywood. Lupita is probably crossing more money per yr than entire Nollywood
Kati Kati,
Supa Mode
Watu Wote
This year Rafiki (a lesbian move) has won many international awards.

South Africa obviously another story for another decade smiley

On the issue of South Africa, while it's not in doubt it has enjoyed more financial success than nollywood films, but that's because most of it's highest grossing movies are either a collaboration with New Zealand, US, UK or stars Hollywood actors. That's one of the reason nollywood is praised, it's completely indigenous! And you have to go far back as 2009 to find the highest grossing SA film while the top 20 highest grossing nollywood films are from 2010 to present, each year setting a new record.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:36pm On Dec 19, 2018
Why are all those movies not winning award. Maybe you got a image problem because for goodness sake I will never watch those movies - I might google them now that you say. I definitely watch south african movies.

As for 200m or 500m naira. Convert to dollars first....see is that like 500K usd - or 1M usd for Wedding smiley (must be Yoruba movie).

Lupita I have read has earn close to 250M dollars from her career so far.

Ibrahimanis:

I know nollywood is growing too fast but Please try to keep up,

The days of witchcraft and voodoo are "almost gone" 2010 to 2018 has been a tremendous success story for nollywood. Check out, Arbitration, the CEO, 76, October 1st, half a yellow sun, 93 days, if I am president e.t.c (non of them are comedy)

Really, how much does lupita gross per year then?

King of Boys was released this October and it already grossed 200mil naira (and it's still running) it has a rating of 9.2/10 by Imdb, the highest by a nollywood movie. And it's still not the highest grossing Nigerian movie. That honour goes to the wedding party, grossed 500mil naira in Nigeria alone, theatrical screening, DVD sales and online streaming outside Nigeria are not included. Take that Kenya! grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:40pm On Dec 19, 2018
How about just you quit being a nigerian for a moment - who just has lame excuses for anything- and admit - good writing and acting skills in South Africa - perhaps right from schools to universities. And you work towards improving that by if necessary importing script writters, directors and actors.
Ibrahimanis:

On the issue of South Africa, while it's not in doubt it has enjoyed more financial success than nollywood films, but that's because most of it's highest grossing movies are either a collaboration with New Zealand, US, UK or stars Hollywood actors. That's one of the reason nollywood is praised, it's completely indigenous! And you have to go far back as 2009 to find the highest grossing SA film while the top 20 highest grossing nollywood films are from 2010 to present, each year setting a new record.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 4:42pm On Dec 19, 2018
KENYA LANDMARK CHEAP HOUSING UNITS TO BEGIN JANUARY 2019
The County of Nairobi signed a memorandum of understanding with the National Government in the low-cost housing project. Under the MoU, county governments will avail land while the national government will provide finances and capacity building. The county has already secured 7,000 acres of land for this initial phase. We are also working with the National Treasury, the World Bank and other stakeholders to operationalise the Kenya Mortgage Refinancing Company to provide medium and long-term liquidity to mortgage lenders.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:46pm On Dec 19, 2018
People actually pay to watch Nollywood movies. I mean Kenya is not yet there - but it's already more sophisticated than Nigeria film industry. Quantity is not Quality. Rafiki was banned and was watched for few days during injunction. It certainly has won more international awards and acclaim - and when the money start flowing - for kenyan movies - it will be something.

Now nollyhood - highest movies has crossed 1.5M dollars!!! and you've produced like 1M movies.

Rafiki made 33K dollars in a week it was allowed by court to be screened

68816419:


grin grin grin grin grin grin Kenya of all places? and how comes Nigeria movies industry is the second largest movies industry in the world behind Bollywood and our worst films generated more profit than your best films?
never for once knw Kenyans produces movies, i only know of Tanzanians film industry. grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 4:50pm On Dec 19, 2018
rvp2018:
Why are all those movies not winning award. Maybe you got a image problem because for goodness sake I will never watch those movies - I might google them now that you say. I definitely watch south african movies.

As for 200m or 500m naira. Convert to dollars first....see is that like 500K usd - or 1M usd for Wedding smiley (must be Yoruba movie).

Lupita I have read has earn close to 250M dollars from her career so far.

250m dollars in her career so far? grin
My question is how much per year?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 4:50pm On Dec 19, 2018
rvp2018:
You percentage are wrong. Try 95% good with 5% shitty looking like Nigeria. As for white and black. They left kenya in 1963 (or you think we kept them secretly after fighting for independence smiley). That clearly is lame excuse. You got OIL - you've earned more than 600B dollars. We got nothing. But we have built now 6 modern cities - and several towns. All that from selling coffee beans, tea leaves and letting whites people come watch our animals for a small fee.
Man, i hv proven to you that your developed parts are just stone throw away from each others(westland and upper hill and less thand 3KM Apart from each other) , and that lagos,abuja,PH,Enugu ... developments spreads across all areas (distance between ikeja,VI,Apapa,Vestac,Lekki, Lagos island,Oshodi are far apart from each other), i have shown you with facts that Kenya have the worst,highest numbered slums areas in "World", i have also shown you that your developed parts " CBD,WESTLAND,UPPERHILL,KAREN... Have one thing in common "white,Politicians,Indians" dominance and that majority of your population have no options of residence than Slums(Kibera,Matare....).

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 4:55pm On Dec 19, 2018
rvp2018:
People actually pay to watch Nollywood movies. I mean Kenya is not yet there - but it's already more sophisticated than Nigeria film industry. Quantity is not Quality. Rafiki was banned and was watched for few days during injunction. It certainly has won more international awards and acclaim - and when the money start flowing - for kenyan movies - it will be something.

Now nollyhood - highest movies has crossed 1.5M dollars!!! and you've produced like 1M movies.

Rafiki made 33K dollars in a week!!!!!!!


well,we are still the best in Africa, how much has rafiki generated so far and can you provide gross profits of Kenyans movies if at all they exist ?, i tried watching Kenyans movies on you-tube but i found VLOG videos far more advanced that it grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 4:57pm On Dec 19, 2018
Kenyanstar:
KENYA LANDMARK CHEAP HOUSING UNITS TO BEGIN JANUARY 2019
The County of Nairobi signed a memorandum of understanding with the National Government in the low-cost housing project. Under the MoU, county governments will avail land while the national government will provide finances and capacity building. The county has already secured 7,000 acres of land for this initial phase. We are also working with the National Treasury, the World Bank and other stakeholders to operationalise the Kenya Mortgage Refinancing Company to provide medium and long-term liquidity to mortgage lenders.
Location ?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:58pm On Dec 19, 2018
What is developed to you. Central business district. Nairobi has 15 of those. If you're talking residential estates - hundrends of thoses. I am just telling the NON-SLUM areas of Nairobi are 95%. I didn't do the calculation but credible orginization have done them.
68816419:

Man, i hv proven to you that your developed parts are just stone throw away from each others(westland and upper hill and less thand 3KM Apart from each other) , and that lagos,abuja,PH,Enugu ... developments spreads across all areas (distance between ikeja,VI,Apapa,Vestac,Lekki, Lagos island,Oshodi are far apart from each other), i have shown you with facts that Kenya have the worst,highest numbered slums areas in "World", i have also shown you that your developed parts " CBD,WESTLAND,UPPERHILL,KAREN... Have one thing in common "white,Politicians,Indians" dominance and that majority of your population have no options of residence than Slums(Kibera,Matare....).
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 5:00pm On Dec 19, 2018
rvp2018:
How about just you quit being a nigerian for a moment - who just has lame excuses for anything- and admit - good writing and acting skills in South Africa - perhaps right from schools to universities. And you work towards improving that by if necessary importing script writters, directors and actors.
So my excuses are lame. grin

Those are not excuses by the way, they are explanation.

Kenyan film industry is more sophisticated than Nollywood grin, I laugh in Swahili, come back when you can boast of an artist like Hakeem effect (BBC featured him by the way), come back when your "sophisticated' movies can be screened internationally on yearly basis, come back when a your movie can gross higher than Nollywood's, Come back when foreign actors/actresses from Africa started featuring in your movies. grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:00pm On Dec 19, 2018
The Judge allowed them temporary injunction of 7 weeks as the case of their banning continues.The screening was to allow it's nomination to the Oscars. So they have only screened for 1 week. If they win the case against the Kenya Film Censorship board - they will be allowed to screen forever - and we can see how much they'll make. But so far they have broken all records (probably including Nigeria) for one week of screening.
68816419:


well,we are still the best in Africa, how much has rafiki generated so far and can you provide gross profits of Kenyans movies if at all they exist ?, i tried watching Kenyans movies on you-tube but i found VLOG videos far more advanced that it grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:03pm On Dec 19, 2018
We are going in cycle. We started right there in sophistication.I won't have brought this up if this was about QUanity of shitload of bad movies you unleash every day. I told you - we have had like 5 movies recently getting nominated to OSCARS.

Btw how is you acting industry. I get a sense your actors probably never went to any acting class. They just arm themselves with cameras and shot! Nothing professional - just the commonfolk stories with predictable story lines.

In kenya we have very good drama and acting through out the schools systems - and that quality will eventually come out - it hard of course to compete with Hollywood - but Kenya is likely to go South Africa way - that Nollywood/BollyWood.

Ibrahimanis:

So my excuses are lame. grin

Those are not excuses by the way, they are explanation.

Kenyan film industry is more sophisticated than Nollywood grin, I laugh in Swahili, come back when you can boast of an artist like Hakeem effect (BBC featured him by the way), come back when your "sophisticated' movies can be screened internationally on yearly basis, come back when a your movie can gross higher than Nollywood's, Come back when foreign actors/actresses from Africa started featuring in your movies. grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:06pm On Dec 19, 2018
Find out using goolge how much Lupita made from Black Panter.
Ibrahimanis:

250m dollars in her career so far? grin
My question is how much per year?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 5:07pm On Dec 19, 2018
jaycent:
Forgiveness give this boy space make him breath na grin You want make him go committee suicide like that sufferNsmilling grin omo my hand no dey oo grin you know wan even allow drink water keep cup, you don climb him head again grin why are you this wicked na grin e no good oo, God is watching oo grin


Hahahaha! Honestly, that guy stubbornness no bi here. He must learn by force by fire. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:07pm On Dec 19, 2018
rvp2018:
What is developed to you. Central business district. Nairobi has 15 of those. If you're talking residential estates - hundrends of thoses. I am just telling the NON-SLUM areas of Nairobi are 95%. I didn't do the calculation but credible orginization have done them.

and yet every sources put the percentage of slums dweller at above 60%?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:08pm On Dec 19, 2018
That is why they are called slums - 15 nigerians can live in one room house. Do you need evidence? - They sleep in turns smiley So you can imagine 65,000 nigerians in Nairobi divide 15 - they probably have rented only 5,000 on-room units This is how nearly 2/3 of Nairobi manage to live in Eastland of Nairobi - squeezing themselves so they can afford rent.

95% of Nairobi is not a slum. But you got 5% of land mass holding maybe 20-30% - we will find out in Census next year.

Btw if you rent a house in best neighberhood and you live 15 people in one house - that automatically makes it a SLUM. 1 bedroom house is max meant for 1 couples- not 10 Nigerians or Somalis & their girlfriends.

68816419:

and yet every sources put the percentage of slums dweller at above 60%?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:10pm On Dec 19, 2018
rvp2018:
The Judge allowed them temporary injunction of 7 weeks as the case of their banning continues.The screening was to allow it's nomination to the Oscars. So they have only screened for 1 week. If they win the case against the Kenya Film Censorship board - they will be allowed to screen forever - and we can see how much they'll make. But so far they have broken all records (probably including Nigeria) for one week of screening.

and how about other movies ? grin grin can you list them please?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:17pm On Dec 19, 2018
They don't make enough money - and that is probably not their intention - their intention is to win international awards, get recognition and get
big roles. Nigeria shitty movies are not making enough money either.

I don't see them making money maybe until 2030. I mean serious money. Not 1M dollars.

68816419:

and how about other movies ? grin grin can you list them please?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 5:42pm On Dec 19, 2018
68816419:

Location ?
The groundbreaking of Phase One, of the low-cost housing pilot project by President Uhuru Kenyatta at Park Road in Pangani area. It will be launched on 21/12/2018 and to be completed by 2022. Keep posted for more details.

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