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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:17am On Dec 22, 2018
NairobiWalker,

Right - look like by end of 2019 - we will be approaching 10M. This year those figures look likely to pass 8M.

Jomo Kenyatta International Airport passengers are inching to the one million mark monthly after hitting 787,743 in August 2018
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2018/10/04/jkia-passenger-numbers-rise-as-nyc-direct-flights-beckon_c1829073

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 10:25am On Dec 22, 2018
forgiveness:



You are clever by half by coverings the date. Bhuhahahaha! grin

This is 2016 report and it is outdated. grin

See snapshot. grin
Buahahahaha shame don catch Nairobitreker oo grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 10:27am On Dec 22, 2018
rvp2018:
I don't think you miss a day here.
I do, buddy grin and even if I don't. This is our forum not yours, okay?? grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:31am On Dec 22, 2018
Internet has no boundary. This is Seun forum. You don't have shares and when we sign up they don't ask nationality. Just name, email and password. Idiot. We belong to many online foras!
jaycent:
I do, buddy grin and even if I don't. This is our forum not yours, okay?? grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 11:00am On Dec 22, 2018
This is the CJ who led uhuru's election nullification, this is another reason why Kenya is a mature civilised country more than majority of other its African counterparts

This guy could be long buried and forgotten if it happened in TZ or Nigeria

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 11:06am On Dec 22, 2018
Oga keep quiet, tell that to those who don't the silent killings & intimidation the Jubilee govt carries out every year. has Juma's murder been solved? what about the witnesses disappearing in Ruto's case with the ICC?

Your fav country is about to loose a port to China.

https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/kenya-risks-losing-port-of-mombasa-to-china

Kur17:
This is the CJ who led uhuru's election nullification, this is another reason why Kenya is a mature civilised country more than majority of other its African counterparts

This guy could be long buried and forgotten if it happened in TZ or Nigeria

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 11:15am On Dec 22, 2018
rvp2018:
Nigeria should not be in this conversation - you got power blackouts even in the airports smiley
We moved to become a world class Airport. You think KQ would be flying people to Nairobi hub that was bad.
We recently went for global talent and recruited a Nowergian to lead our airports - we jumped from your average airport to world class airport - just 2 yrs - and 2018 we are most improved Airport. Airport is not business Nigerian can hack - first hack stable electricity.

Kenya Airports Managing Director Jonny Andersen (Nowergian).


And next year our airports will be turned over to KQ - who will make them truly world class.



Hiring Indians and Chinese to run your economy isn't enough.. now u have jumped to Norwegians. grin ..

Interesting....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 11:17am On Dec 22, 2018
NairobiWalker:


14M serving 200M people against 10M serving 48M people. Btw, JKIA has been hitting 1M passengers per month in some months this year. The figures are going to be big, definitely over 8M, probably over 9M.

The figure is for international flights..

Why don't u bring d data for domestic flights?? grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 11:19am On Dec 22, 2018
Danielnino00:


The figure is for international flights..

Why don't u bring d data for domestic flights?? grin

It's the total figure my friend.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:19am On Dec 22, 2018
As you regurguiate stale news - Kenya security wise is heaven compared to Nigeria - yes there are of course few political killings and intimidation - but overally our security situation is not comparable to Naijas.

Tourist numbers surge 20pc ahead of Christmas
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/Tourist-numbers-surge-20pc-ahead-of-Christmas/3946234-4905868-ai0n24/index.html

As for SGR loan - we are doing so well - we will not only repay the loan but also make money from Chinese loan.

naijalander:
Oga keep quiet, tell that to those who don't the silent killings & intimidation the Jubilee govt carries out every year. has Juma's murder been solved? what about the witnesses disappearing in Ruto's case with the ICC?

Your fav country is about to loose a port to China.

https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/kenya-risks-losing-port-of-mombasa-to-china

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:24am On Dec 22, 2018
2017 figures - NBS - 13m- and NCAA - 14M - this is for all passengers for airports and airstrip - departing and arriving passengers.

http://saharareporters.com/2018/05/08/144-or-133-million-ncaa-nbs-give-conflicting-figures-passenger-traffic-nigerian-airports

Danielnino00:


The figure is for international flights..

Why don't u bring d data for domestic flights?? grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 11:24am On Dec 22, 2018
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rvp2018:
Keep googling. JKIA carries more than 7M passengers. Don't even go to CARGO - it probably Africa biggest cargo airport smiley. JKIA is airpolis - Nigeria has small airports.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_in_Africa
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:26am On Dec 22, 2018
It wikipedia - not reliable. But Nairobi's JKIA long overtook Lagos MMA.
Jonraid:
Whose report is this? Who is behind this ranking?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:31am On Dec 22, 2018
Kenya had 10M - passenger traffic in 2016.

Let me look at 2017 - we might be very close to Nigeria the giant grin

As for 2018 - JKIA alone is nearing 10M.

Kenya Airway alone carries nearly 5M passengers. Jambo jet their subsidiary are approaching 1M domestic passenger annually.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 11:32am On Dec 22, 2018
Be assured someone played a trick,I didn't asking you anything! Nigerians can't be this desperate!
rvp2018:
It wikipedia - not reliable. But Nairobi's JKIA long overtook Lagos MMA.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:36am On Dec 22, 2018
Doesn't matter. Kenya is doing so well in air travel. The domestic air travel is Africa fastest growing - growing at 20% annually.
https://qz.com/africa/1059396/kenyas-capital-nairobi-has-recorded-the-highest-domestic-air-travel-in-africa/
quality=75&strip=all&w=1600&h=902ttps://qz.com/africa/1059396/kenyas-capital-nairobi-has-recorded-the-highest-domestic-air-travel-in-africa/
Jonraid:
Be assured someone played a trick,I didn't asking you anything! Nigerians can't be this desperate!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:40am On Dec 22, 2018
rvp2018:
Do you just build empty large airports or you build AIRPORTS BASED ON REALISTIC PASSENGER PROJECTIONS. That is what we do. Airports or stadiums are not grandiose white-elephant - they are smart investment- Maiduguru International Airport - when will a flight land there.

Isn't why you're poor despite all the oil. You build grandiose projects when you have 14m passengers.

Wajir airport or Lokichoggio airstrip are probably busier than most of your airports.



You are right, you don't just build empty airports, that is why KENYA can't afford to build more than one international airport in NAIROBI for the whole of Kenya. grin

This is not good for your country willing to meet up with South Africa who has 4 airports among the biggest/largest airports in Africa. Bhuhahahaha! grin

Mind you, only 3 South Africa's airports are bigger than MMIA yet MMIA has more passengers than the third one while Abuja airport has more passengers than the 10th biggest airport in Africa which happens to be in South Africa. grin

Your one and only big for nothing airport is now dragging with Abuja airport in term of passengers. grin

You are a learner, my friend. This is not one Masai data.

Besides, Maiduguri airport is a local airport and has more passengers than your Kisumu cyber cafe sorry airport. Bhuhahahaha! grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 11:42am On Dec 22, 2018
forgiveness:



You are right, you don't just build empty airports, that is why KENYA can't afford to build more than one international airport in NAIROBI for the whole of Kenya. grin

This is not good for your country willing to meet up with South Africa who has 4 airports among the biggest/largest airports in Africa. Bhuhahahaha! grin

Mind you, only 3 South Africa's airports are bigger than MMIA yet MMIA has more passengers than the third one while Abuja airport has more passengers than the 10th biggest airport in Africa which happens to be in South Africa. grin

Your one and only big for nothing airport is now dragging with Abuja airport in term of passengers. grin

You are a learner, my friend. This is not one Masai data.

Besides, Maiduguri airport is a local airport and has more passengers than your Kisumu cyber cafe sorry airport. Bhuhahahaha! grin




Maiduguri is an international airport, stupid.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 11:45am On Dec 22, 2018
We are so rich in references,we will give out a thousand plus one sources so as to butress our points.Nigerians can only rely much from Yemi Kale the fraud!
rvp2018:
Doesn't matter. Kenya is doing so well in air travel. The domestic air travel is Africa fastest growing - growing at 20% annually.
https://qz.com/africa/1059396/kenyas-capital-nairobi-has-recorded-the-highest-domestic-air-travel-in-africa/
quality=75&strip=all&w=1600&h=902ttps://qz.com/africa/1059396/kenyas-capital-nairobi-has-recorded-the-highest-domestic-air-travel-in-africa/

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:46am On Dec 22, 2018
We have more than 5 International aiports.
forgiveness:



You are right, you don't just build empty airports, that is why KENYA can't afford to build more than one international airport in NAIROBI for the whole of Kenya. grin

This is not good for your country willing to meet up with South Africa who has 4 airports among the biggest/largest airports in Africa. Bhuhahahaha! grin

Mind you, only 3 South Africa's airports are bigger than MMIA yet MMIA has more passengers than the third one while Abuja airport has more passengers than the 10th biggest airport in Africa which happens to be in South Africa. grin

Your one and only big for nothing airport is now dragging with Abuja airport in term of passengers. grin

You are a learner, my friend. This is not one Masai data.

Besides, Maiduguri airport is a local airport and has more passengers than your Kisumu cyber cafe sorry airport. Bhuhahahaha! grin



Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 11:46am On Dec 22, 2018
This is 2 days ago, try again.
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Chinese-may-take-Mombasa-Port--Ouko/1056-4902162-xfphu7z/index.html



rvp2018:
As you regurguiate stale news - Kenya security wise is heaven compared to Nigeria - yes there are of course few political killings and intimidation - but overally our security situation is not comparable to Naijas.

Tourist numbers surge 20pc ahead of Christmas
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/Tourist-numbers-surge-20pc-ahead-of-Christmas/3946234-4905868-ai0n24/index.html

As for SGR loan - we are doing so well - we will not only repay the loan but also make money from Chinese loan.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:53am On Dec 22, 2018
obaaderemi:
I think we are even bringing ourselves down by rubbing shoulders with them. Honestly, Nigeria has failed woefully due to its governance problems but this thread has really exposed Kenya despite their small size and relative political calm. They didn't suffer any coup or civil war! But Nigeria can come out of this mess. How? Young Nigerians are more aware than before, our economy is arguably Africa's largest(heck, Lagos's economy alone puts Kenya to shame), our education is being upgraded (ordinary Covenant university, a private entity in Ogun state is ranked higher than all Kenyan universities), there's more attention paid to infrastructure and corruption though hydra headed is gradually being checked. In short Nigerians are now asking question like not before. China used to have about 80% poverty rate in the 70s but look where they are today. The secret? Education and awareness. Nigeria is down but we are not out..grin Clearly, no African country has potential like Nigeria. The cup is half full. If not serious insecurity, what would make grown men waste so much time on a Nigerian site all the way from east Africa. Don't you see how early they wake up to come to nairaland and how late they stay every night? This means a lot to them; To rub shoulders with Nigerians.


You are right on point. Our country is very young due to long time bad governance yet Nigeria is still miles ahead of Kenya who has never witnessed anything like civil war or military regime.


Can you please show me the source that rated Coventry university above all the universities in Kenya? Thanks grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:57am On Dec 22, 2018
Is SGR defaulting. That "news" was part of conditionals from EximBank China when they gave us 5B dollars railway loan. In just 1yr we are already 8 yr projected CARGO.There are more than 14 trains making 28-30 cargo trips per day. Ethiopia are struggling with 1 train and have already asked Chinese to extend the repayment period.

Kenya is not about to nor has it ever defaulted on Loan. We are not Nigeria or TZ who have had debt crisis after crisis. We have paid our debt in time except for few years we have asked for rescheduling.

Nigeria and TZ have had to ask for debt forgiveness - several times.

EximBank have already approved another 4B for final phase of SGR to Uganda border....signing is remaining. So we are still very credit worthy.

naijalander:
This is 2 days ago, try again.
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Chinese-may-take-Mombasa-Port--Ouko/1056-4902162-xfphu7z/index.html

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 11:58am On Dec 22, 2018
The so called leaked report was fake.We already discussed this.The Auditor General quickly dismissed it!
naijalander:
This is 2 days ago, try again.
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Chinese-may-take-Mombasa-Port--Ouko/1056-4902162-xfphu7z/index.html



Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 12:01pm On Dec 22, 2018
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:03pm On Dec 22, 2018
Our first 40yrs were dictatorship. Kenyatta and then Moi dictatorship. We have had corruption and other governance challenges. Those are not excuses. Those are the stuff we did ourselves in. Nigeria similary cannot excuse civil war or military - these were acts done by Nigerians. I can excuse natural disasters or foreign invasion or Colonilism - But Nigerian military taking over Nigeria gov or Nigeria internal civil war - those are you OWN FAILINGS. Right now you're not doing any better - you've been democratic - and save for GOODLUCK who got lucky - you've elected the SAME MILITARY RULES - from OBJ - to the idiot Buhari.

If Sani Abacha was not dead you'd be choosing btw Gen Buhair or Gen Abacha.

And LET US NOT TALK OIL. Nigeria is hopeless country. Stop having false hope. Now oil is crashing again - and youre few years from military or civil war again.

forgiveness:

You are right on point. Our country is very young due to long time bad governance yet Nigeria is still miles ahead of Kenya who has never witnessed anything like civil war or military regime.
Can you please show me the source that rated Coventry university above all the universities in Kenya? Thanks grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:04pm On Dec 22, 2018
rvp2018:
What is you GDP using market rate (USD 1:365 naira) now. And what is your nominal GDP now.

Let me help you around 320B. Divided by 198M. Nominal GDP 1,610USd. If you use Gov exchange rate 370B (per capita is 1860).

Kenya GDP is roughly now 90B against pop of 48M - our per capita is nearly 1900USd.

And ours is NOT COOKED. Yours OVER-COOKED.

We have gone through the spending - revenue several times - your federal+state budget total is now around 41B dollars - our total budget National+counties - is around 35-36B.

And you can imagine you got 4 times the population and twice the land mass to cover - with ABOUT the same money in gov coffers.

And now oil is crashing - you'll be crying tears for long time.



Who cooked up your GDP? I know your government lied to you and I can see you are one master of liars. grin

First of all, you lied with figure of Nigeria's GDP by reducing it and you also lied by inflating Kenya's GDP. grin liar. grin Lying can't change your low level status. grin

Lastly, our budget is 4 times of that of Kenya. We have given you verifiable facts to that effect. Whether you believe or not is not anyone's cup of coffee. Bhuhahahaha.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:12pm On Dec 22, 2018
rvp2018:
Keep googling. JKIA carries more than 7M passengers. Don't even go to CARGO - it probably Africa biggest cargo airport smiley. JKIA is airpolis - Nigeria has small airports.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_in_Africa


Are we in 2017? grin

Shine your eyes, Mr. We are in 2018 and Nigeria MMIA is busier than your one and only big for nothing international airport. Bhuhahahaha!


If we use only MMIA as the only gate way to Nigeria like you have only JKAi as the only major gateway to Kenya, Lagos should be number 1 in Africa. grin

We have 7 international airports in Nigeria. 4 are major airports. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 12:13pm On Dec 22, 2018
forgiveness:



You are right on point. Our country is very young due to long time bad governance yet Nigeria is still miles ahead of Kenya who has never witnessed anything like civil war or military regime.


Can you please show me the source that rated Coventry university above all the universities in Kenya? Thanks grin

You're only ahead of Kenya when it comes to population, nothing else positive.

Only 60% of Nigerians can read and write vs Kenya over 90%...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:13pm On Dec 22, 2018
What your source wikipedia. Kenya's 85B was last year - Kenya economy. This year 2018 - we will hit 90B - we are just waiting for final Qs figures.
Nigeria economy - depending on which exchange rate you take - CBN(305) or market (365) - GDP is 320 to around 370. If we use the real BLACK market exchange rate - like 450 naira to a dollar - ohoo boy - you overcooked GDp collapse to 250B or about grin grin

forgiveness:

Who cooked up your GDP? I am know your government lied to you and I can see you are one master of lies. grin
First of all, you lied with figure of Nigeria's GDP by reducing it and you also lied by inflating Kenya's GDP. grin liar. grin Lying can't change your low level status. grin

Lastly, our budget is 4 times of that of Kenya. We have given you verifiable facts to that effect. Whether you believe or not is not anyone's cup of coffee. Bhuhahahaha.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darfay: 12:14pm On Dec 22, 2018
NairobiWalker:


Most of your photos are simply purposely zoomed to create a deceptive illusion but when you check the whole airport is crap. Most of the airport's you post are also white elephants handling an embarrassing number of passengers. Here is Illorin airport for example, looks like a go-down for a maize packaging business.



Wajir airport

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:14pm On Dec 22, 2018
rvp2018:
What your source wikipedia. Kenya's 85B was last year - Kenya economy. This year 2018 - we will hit 90B - we are just waiting for final Qs figures.
Nigeria economy - depending on which exchange rate you take - CBN(305) or market (365) - GDP is 320 to around 370. If we use the real BLACK market exchange rate - like 450 naira to a dollar - ohoo boy - you overcooked GDp collapse to 250B or about grin grin



I can't read lies until you show me your source. Until then, just keep quiet. Thanks grin

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