Na una sabi, as 4 me n my generation, we'll continue to celebrate christmas, n easter. Shikena.

iyamchee:


We use the Roman calendar.Different days for different gods. You should really study the Romans before you start talking.
But that doesn't dispute the fact that God created time and day. Man just created different systems to calculate it

You make the error of thinking Christians don't read, nothing could be farther from the truth!
That is the problem with people like freeze..he comes upon some 'new knowledge', reads a fee articles and watched some YouTube videos and erroneously thinks himself more knowledgeable than others..the Christmas brouhaha freeze has been disturbing the net with has been a topic of debate among theological scholars way before even freeze was conceived..

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The premises of the arguments are wrong.
Christianity cannot be validated by Bible alone because the Bible is the foundation on which Christianity is built. The only thing one can use the Bible to debate is whether the practice of Christianity is in consonance with the dictates of the Bible. Judaism, Islam, Budhism, Scientology and other religious sects claim to be the light because their books claim so. Don't forget that Judaism predates Christianity while the latter predates Scientology and other new sects. Who right?

The answers you seek can be found on a neutral historical book not under the influence of politics. Why did US initiate the separation of church and state? It was because of the overbearing influence the state had over the churches in the British empire as handed down by the Roman empire. It is foolhardy to debate Christianity without educating yourself about history.

Read the old testament. All nations that defeated every other nations took over the government there and brought their gods/God with them. Africa was not left out. The white men came to Africa primarily for natural resources. They overpowered your forefathers and thus, shoved their religion down your throat. Did the forefathers have any alternatives? No!

The Bible cannot be the absolute truth when some verses and chapters that didn't support the machinations of the old political orders were excised. Free yourself from psychological manipulation. Non-christian nations and Christian nations are progressing alike while a third world country like Nigeria chose to carry Christianity as gala for dem head. All I can think of is that blacks are mentally and intellectually lazy. As such they hinge their laziness on religion to avoid taking responsibilities for their backwardness. Name one progressive black nation on Earth. I bet you cannot. There you have it.
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No one has replied me about how people organize orgies and immoral gatherings screaming "merry Christmas!".....
In case you don't know most pagan festivals always consist of orgies.......

Celebrate it if you like. Just stop calling the name of God in vain. Even American advertising tell you 'Christmas is a time to celebrate family and special people".......
Most of your general overseers know the truth but they don't share it......

OpenYourEyes1:
Jesus's apostles did not celebrate the birth of Jesus. Christians must imitate Jesus and his apostles and not Roman traditions.
"The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. " 1 Timothy 4:1

This is probably why there is so much immorality and filth during Christmas.



" He was a mighty hunter before the LORD; that is why it is said, "Like Nimrod, a mighty hunter before the LORD." And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. "— Genesis 10:9-10

If God wasn't pleased with the building of Babel he most likely wasn't pleased with Nimrod either.

Jesus and his disciples did not celebrate Jesus birthday. But did they tell us not to do so? Since they didn't, then it means we can do so because it is not a sin.

As long as the Bible didn't condemn something, then it means the thing can be practiced by Christians. Just as we wear wedding rings today even though the apostles never said anything about wearing wedding rings.

Who is you Nimrod built the tower of Babel? He was just King over several cities which included babel that was originally the only city people lived in. It was after God dispersed them that they now over into several cities, 5 of which was ruled by nimrod. Stop saying what the Bible never said.

proxillin:


Both islam and christianity were deeply rooted in paganism. So what?

Why are you bringing islam into your fold.

iyamchee:
Did you know that after Valentine's day, Christmas is one of the days where the highest amount of immortality is committed.....
Jesus Christ definitely won't have wanted that on his birthday.
You just made points based on your feelings....
There were no facts presented. I'm not against you celebrating Christmas..... Just stop using God's name in such filth.....

The only festival Jesus commanded his TRUE followers to do is the last supper...
Jesus never celebrated his birthday and none of his disciples deed so back then.. When u see what happens on the eve of Christmas and Christmas day itself, it a proof that it's of pagan origin and that Satan has really prevail over some in disguise of celebrating Jesus birth

Y una when no blv th here th fight believers...muna go create una own topic n cry th

iyamchee:
No one has replied me about how people organize orgies and immoral gatherings screaming "merry Christmas!".....
In case you don't know most pagan festivals always consist of orgies.......

Celebrate it if you like. Just stop calling the name of God in vain. Even American advertising tell you 'Christmas is a time to celebrate family and special people".......
Most of your general overseers know the truth but they don't share it......

No one has told me how people watch porn on their mobile phones which they also use to record sex tape. Why haven't you thrown away your mobile phone since the discovery?

Just cos some people abuse something doesn't mean it is bad. People will always abuse something. So don't throw away the baby with the bath water.

I quoted the OP with the information below and he is yet to reply. Now, for those of you who see nothing wrong in celebrating Christmas, here is a food for thought for you, exactly what I sent to the OP:

Have you ever read Exodus 32:4-10? That portion of the bible talks about how the Israelites adopted an Egyptian religious practice but gave it a new name, " a festival to Jehovah." But how did God feel? He severely punished them for that.

Yes, the Bible does not specifically contain the command "do not celebrate Christmas," but the principle set out in that book of Exodus is that God cares so much about the origin of celebrations, even though they may seem harmless.

Consider this illustration. Suppose you love candy so very much. And as you're walking along the road, you saw your favorite candy in a gutter. Would you go ahead and pick it up and consume it? I know you would not. Why? Because it's from a contaminated source. Similar, since the source of Christmas celebration is pagan, no matter how you change the name or paint it to look harmless, you are contaminating yourself and God won't be happy with you just like he wasn't happy with the Israelites.

ashlyfab78:


The only festival Jesus commanded his TRUE followers to do is the last supper...
Jesus never celebrated his birthday and none of his disciples deed so back then.. When u see what happens on the eve of Christmas and Christmas day itself, it a proof that it's of pagan origin and that Satan has really prevail over some in disguise of celebrating Jesus birth

Show me where Jesus said we shouldn't celebrate any other festival especially one that has to do with his name. If you can't find, then it means you are speaking when God hasn't spoken. You will be punished for that .

alBHAGDADI:


Show me where Jesus said we shouldn't celebrate any other festival especially one that has to do with his name. If you can't find, then it means you are speaking when God hasn't spoken. You will be punished for that .

OP please don't ignore my mention.

Have you ever read Exodus 32:4-10? That portion of the bible talks about how the Israelites adopted an Egyptian religious practice but gave it a new name, " a festival to Jehovah." But how did God feel? He severely punished them for that.

Yes, the Bible does not specifically contain the command "do not celebrate Christmas," but the principle set out in that book of Exodus is that God cares so much about the origin of celebrations, even though they may seem harmless.

Consider this illustration. Suppose you love candy so very much. And as you're walking along the road, you saw your favorite candy in a gutter. Would you go ahead and pick it up and consume it? I know you would not. Why? Because it's from a contaminated source. Similar, since the source of Christmas celebration is pagan, no matter how you change the name or paint it to look harmless, you are contaminating yourself and God won't be happy with you just like he wasn't happy with the Israelites.

ItsTime4me:
I quoted the OP with the information below and he is yet to reply. Now, for those of you who see nothing wrong in celebrating Christmas, here is a food for thought for you, exactly what I sent to the OP:

Have you ever read Exodus 32:4-10? That portion of the bible talks about how the Israelites adopted an Egyptian religious practice but gave it a new name, " a festival to Jehovah." But how did God feel? He severely punished them for that.

Yes, the Bible does not specifically contain the command "do not celebrate Christmas," but the principle set out in that book of Exodus is that God cares so much about the origin of celebrations, even though they may seem harmless.

Consider this illustration. Suppose you love candy so very much. And as you're walking along the road, you saw your favorite candy in a gutter. Would you go ahead and pick it up and consume it? I know you would not. Why? Because it's from a contaminated source. Similar, since the source of Christmas celebration is pagan, no matter how you change the name or paint it to look harmless, you are contaminating yourself and God won't be happy with you just like he wasn't happy with the Israelites.

You all keep saying origin. Is the birth of Jesus which we celebrate originated from paganism? It just happens to fall on a day pagans celebrate their own god. No one even Celebrates those gods anymore. Do you celebrate your birthday? If yes, then will you do so if it fell on December 25th?

iyamchee:
No one has replied me about how people organize orgies and immoral gatherings screaming "merry Christmas!".....
In case you don't know most pagan festivals always consist of orgies.......

Celebrate it if you like. Just stop calling the name of God in vain. Even American advertising tell you 'Christmas is a time to celebrate family and special people".......
Most of your general overseers know the truth but they don't share it......

Those are just perversions. You have them in every religion. They are more of innate desires of the practitioners rather than their religion. We just associate it to their religion because that's what we do.
We find faults and associate it to religion at slightest opportunity.
Offa vs erinle - tribal conflict
Aguleri vs umuleri- tribal conflict
Ife vs Modakeke- tribal conflict
Birom vs Fulani - religious conflict

Geekamon:
This OP addressed this issue sentimentally. He needs to learn how to conduct quality research, not this debris stuff he has compiled.... Christmas is a pagan festival. My 2 kobo. #Peace

Op addressed the issue but those against Christmas haven't been able to point out strong biblical verses as op did. Just like many still disputing on the intake of alcoholic drink is same as those condemning Christmas. They are so hypocritical in celebrating birthdays, anniversaries and even new year. When you hit them on this they tend to dodge from answering it instead they focus on Christmas and Easter. How foolish they because they still observe pagan days and make use of pagan properties. The Lord Jesus himself isn't complaining about people celebrating his birth then I wonder why many persons dey para.Whether you celebrate Christmas or not the Lord will judge men based on the way they lived their lives. It will shock many that condemn Christmas to see themselves in Hell because they neglect what they should be doing ( living holy life) to be arguing stupidly.

ashlyfab78:


The only festival Jesus commanded his TRUE followers to do is the last supper...
Jesus never celebrated his birthday and none of his disciples deed so back then.. When u see what happens on the eve of Christmas and Christmas day itself, it a proof that it's of pagan origin and that Satan has really prevail over some in disguise of celebrating Jesus birth

very wise fellow. bless you

iyamchee:



The flesh will always have excuses to make you fall in sin

You don't make up sin my dear. Sin is simple instruction neglected.

You live in the flesh and see and endulge in sins everywhere, even in your dreams.

Jesus in me the hope of glory. Holiness, Peace and Love is (are) the standard to God and not putting yourself under bondage of a holy day people defined for themselves and celebrate same with pure heart and dedication to Christ.

kiddoiLL:
what stupid book did I show you? Okay sir, I snapped the page from my Bible, Good News translation. You throw names around, you really don't know shít... I pray you don't die in your ignorance

People like you are the most ignorant ever for supporting and even propagating the greatest propaganda against Christianity in history. Ode!

For the records, Christmas contributed a lot to the popularity Christianity have today.

ashlyfab78:


The only festival Jesus commanded his TRUE followers to do is the last supper...
Jesus never celebrated his birthday and none of his disciples deed so back then.. When u see what happens on the eve of Christmas and Christmas day itself, it a proof that it's if pagan origin and that Satan has really prevail over some in disguise of celebrating Jesus birth

This is what I call 'genuine ignorance'...
1. Do you know that many of the early non Jewish converts did not circumcise their body? But Christ was circumcised as a jew..
2. Do you know that many of them did not observe the passover feast which Christ and his disciples did many times over?
3. Do you know that many of them ate what the Jews termed 'unclean animals' according to Jewish law? And I can categorically say that those laws were observed by Christ and his disciples..infact Peter was asked to kill and eat animals that were termed unclean in a vision and he objected at first..
4. Do you know that Christ and his disciples went to the temple to worship on the sabbath day? But the early non Jewish converts did not, they worshiped according to their agreement amongst each other..same as Christians of these days..

This is why God said in Hebrew 10:16,that he will write his commandments in the heart of his people so that they can(through the holy spirit) discern what is right in the eyes of God

ItsTime4me:


OP please don't ignore my mention.

Have you ever read Exodus 32:4-10? That portion of the bible talks about how the Israelites adopted an Egyptian religious practice but gave it a new name, " a festival to Jehovah." But how did God feel? He severely punished them for that.

Yes, the Bible does not specifically contain the command "do not celebrate Christmas," but the principle set out in that book of Exodus is that God cares so much about the origin of celebrations, even though they may seem harmless.

Consider this illustration. Suppose you love candy so very much. And as you're walking along the road, you saw your favorite candy in a gutter. Would you go ahead and pick it up and consume it? I know you would not. Why? Because it's from a contaminated source. Similar, since the source of Christmas celebration is pagan, no matter how you change the name or paint it to look harmless, you are contaminating yourself and God won't be happy with you just like he wasn't happy with the Israelites.

A liar is who you are. God punished the children of Israel in Exodus 32 because they made an image, a golden calf, and worshiped it. Now, I wonder how you were able to liken it to Christians celebrating Christmas. Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Jesus the son of God who is our saviour. The Israelites on the other hand made a golden calf, Worshiped it and called it their god. As seen, there is no correlation.

Exodus 32:1-8
1 And when the people saw that Moses delayed to come down out of the mount, the people gathered themselves together unto Aaron, and said unto him, Up, make us gods, which shall go before us; for as for this Moses, the man that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him.

2 And Aaron said unto them, Break off the golden earrings, which are in the ears of your wives, of your sons, and of your daughters, and bring them unto me.

3 And all the people brake off the golden earrings which were in their ears, and brought them unto Aaron.

4 And he received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.

5 And when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow is a feast to the Lord.

6 And they rose up early on the morrow, and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play.

7 And the Lord said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:

8 They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.

AkpaMgbor:

You make the error of thinking Christians don't read, nothing could be farther from the truth!
That is the problem with people like freeze..he comes upon some 'new knowledge', reads a fee articles and watched some YouTube videos and erroneously thinks himself more knowledgeable than others..the Christmas brouhaha freeze has been disturbing the net with has been a topic of debate among theological scholars way before even freeze was conceived..

I don't like freeze

alBHAGDADI:


1. Yes, Christmas was a human invention. But is it all human inventions that are bad? Yes, we christians invented it because Jesus himself gave us the power to do so.

Mathew 18:18
Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

We have bound December 25th as a day for the celebration of Jesus. Heaven has also accepted our decision
We have also loosed the pagans from the deceit of Satan. Now they are celebrating Jesus instead of Satan. Or is it Satan's name we called on Christmas?

2. Eid El Kabir is not a Christian festival. Christmas is a Christian festival that's why we celebrate it. Pagans had their own celebration, but I ask, is it their god we celebrate on our own day? No. It is Jesus we celebrate.

3.

Isaiah's 14:14
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High

4. Nimrod has no day because he never created any day.

Please stop quoting me Mr Satanist.

Nice respond

Over to JW.
Xtianinity is full of twist.
Deeper life n Adventist after long study they resolved to celebrate new year, JW after much study they say no to any, say even birthday is a sin.
Religion is a poo

MadamExcellency:


You don't make up sin my dear. Sin is simple instruction neglected.

You live in the flesh and see and endulge in sins everywhere, even in your dreams.

Jesus in me the hope of glory. Holiness, Peace and Love is (are) the standard to God and not putting yourself under bondage of a holy day people defined for themselves and celebrate same with pure heart and dedication to Christ.

Why set aside one that coincides with more than 2 pagan festivals when you can remember him everyday by trying to be like him

Preator:


Those are just perversions. You have them in every religion. They are more of innate desires of the practitioners rather than their religion. We just associate it to their religion because that's what we do.
We find faults

Christianity is not a religion, it's a lifestyle

LuciferCatholic:




1. So, you finally agree that Christmas was a human invention.

If Christmas came into existence in 336AD it means Jesus, Peter, Paul etc know nothing about it which makes it fabricated!

Simple.



2. You are free to celebrate?

Really?
So why don't you celebrate Eid El Kabir or No Bra Day too?

What's stopping you?



3. Where is proof that Satan boasted he will be like God?

Asides the Bible (a book which could be fictional), where else does this story exist?

Show us!




4. I do not want to "ask everyone". This isn't a debate of opinion - we are talking facts here.
I'm asking YOU.

And as I have corrected you earlier, Mithra, not Nimrod was the Roman Sun God as at when Christmas was created. His day of celebration was December 25th (long before Christmas came into existence).

your problem is that you fail understand the truth
and the most foolish thing asked is where Satan made such boast...? like seriously. out of love the children of God honor him by dedicating special days to him...all days belong to God...why are u glorifying false gods and u talk as if heathen people have more say in this world than children of God

1Sharon:


Very dumb. In what way is watching porn abusing Tv? Just because something isn't morally right to you, doesn't mean it's bad. Is watching porn on TV illegal?

Very dumb. In what way is celebrating Christmas abusing Jesus? Just because something isn't right to you, doesn't mean it's bad. Is celebrating Christmas on December 25th illegal?

Two can play that game.

1Sharon:

If it wasn't for the Torah, there will be no Christianity

Brah, if it wasn't 4 Jesus, there would b no christianity.

And for those still disputing about Christmas been pagan or not should note the following
1. The wearing of rings wasn't ordain by God for marriages because the men of old never wear them as a sign to signify marriage
2. The apostles of old never celebrated birthday parties, wedding anniversary, attending to other functions
3. There was never church wedding hence no reason should a church conduct it in the first place. No justification for that as the recognized marriage is the payment of dowry.
Should any refute these claims then such a person is an hypocrite for condemning Christmas. If you choose to be scriptural base then live by the scriptures don't add or subtract or bring your idea into it.

alBHAGDADI:


You all keep saying origin. Is the birth of Jesus which we celebrate originated from paganism? It just happens to fall on a day pagans celebrate their own god. No one even Celebrates those gods anymore. Do you celebrate your birthday? If yes, then will you do so if it fell on December 25th?

No sir. It didn't "happen to fall on a day pagans celebrate their own god" by chance.
It was deliberately chosen to be celebrated on a day pagans celebrated their own god by the pagan, Emperor Constantine in 336AD.

Christians didn't choose December 25th, Constantine forced it on everyone.


You cannot respond to this because I am really exposing your misleading doctrines this morning so you haven decided to duel with far simpler comments.

Mizwisdom:
I see some cosmo powers will come here to argue because they don't want to hear the name of Jesus Christ. They say they are atheist but still argue about what they don't believe in. May the God of heaven and earth render you all powerless on this thread, be confused and destroy your own false logic in Jesus name, I nullify all your evil intentions and set fire on your camps in JESUS MIGHTY NAME!

AMENNN!!! #Hugs