iyamchee:


Christianity is not a religion, it's a lifestyle

So are other Faiths. But this faiths can only be judged from the dictates of their religious text rather than the actions of their practitioners/adherents

iyamchee:


Why set aside one that coincides with more than 2 pagan festivals when you can remember him everyday by trying to be like him

You just refuse to accept wisdom..for reasons I know not..for the umpteenth time, NO pagan god owns any day of the week! Not then, not now and not ever! If you claim to be a Christian, then your aim and sole purpose should be to convert..that means converting all the pervertion of the devil..I gave you example of how Paul converted idol worshippers using an unknown idolised statue which they made..he did it on the very day they worship those idols..he didn't say "I will convert them on another day that is not marked out for idol worship"...

iyamchee:


Why set aside one that coincides with more than 2 pagan festivals when you can remember him everyday by trying to be like him

Since we took the decision to set it on a day which you say belongs to pagan gods, we have been able to concert those pagans and also overshadowed their celebrations. Today, people don't even celebrate those gods anymore. All they do is celebrate Christmas. Muslims, Buddhist, unbelievers etc all celebrate Christmas, and from there we preach to them .

alBHAGDADI:


Show me where Jesus said we shouldn't celebrate any other festival especially one that has to do with his name. If you can't find, then it means you are speaking when God hasn't spoken. You will be punished for that .

Show me where Jesus instructed you to celebrate Christmas.

If you can't find it, then it means you are speaking when God hasn't spoken. You will be severely punished for that.

Yawn.

Christmas is a PAGAN Festival white washed with another PAGAN celebration called the virgin birth of Jesus which. Thoroughly and completely Pagan. History completely debunks your fallacious delusion.

No one is saying you should not love God , but get off your ass and start making strides in science, technology and develop your societies. What has your celebration of this PAGAN festival done to cure our land from the stain of blood caused by wanton kidnapping, robbery, scamming pastors and all out wickedness.

Come out of delusion land and do something to improve the lot of Nigerians.

Christmas is a PAGAN festival,

iyamchee:


Why set aside one that coincides with more than 2 pagan festivals when you can remember him everyday by trying to be like him

Deeper Life Bible Church built their headquarters in a former evil forest in Gbagada hence by your definition, their prayers will forever be ignored.

Get off your high horse and understand that God owns the days, the earth and the fullness thereof and they that dwell therein.

Go and read the new testament commandments in respect on holy days.

alBHAGDADI:


Since we took the decision to set it on a day which you say belongs to pagan gods, we have been able to concert those pagans and also overshadowed their celebrations. Today, people don't even celebrate those gods anymore. All they do is celebrate Christmas. Muslims, Buddhist, unbelievers etc all celebrate Christmas, and from there we preach to them .

You didn't take the decision.
The decision was made for you by military force as a matter of fact.

Constantine passed it as a decree and commanded that it be celebrated on December 25th.

Christians had no choice

1. CHRISTMAS WAS NEVER CELEBRATED BY EARLY CHRISTIANS 300 YEARS AFTER THE DEATH OF JESUS CHRIST.

2. WHY WAS IT NOT CELEBRATED BY THE EARLY CHRISTIANS?

3. CHRISTMAS WAS AN INVENTION OF A PAGANIZED APOSTATE CHRISTIAN CHURCH LED BY ROMAN EMPEROR CONSTANTINE AROUND 325-336CE.

4. JESUS TOLD US TO FOLLOW HIS COMMANDMENTS AND STEP NOT COMMANDMENTS OF MEN. 1JOHN.5v2-3.

5. APOSTLE PAUL TOLD US THAT ANYONE WHO PUSHES AHEAD AND DOES NOT REMAIN IN THE TEACHINGS, (COMMANDMENTS) OF CHRIST DOES NOT HAVE GOD. HE TOLD US NOT TO ASSOCIATE WITH SUCH BE IT CHURCH OR HUMAN. 2JOHN9-10.

6. APOSTLES PAUL WARNED GALATIANS THAT IF ANYONE BRINGS IN ANOTHER DOCTRINE, TEACHING BE IT CELEBRATION, AS LONG AS IT IS SOMETHING THAT GOES WITH WORSHIP OF GOD, IF IT IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THEY RECEIVED FROM THEM, THE APOSTLES OF OLD OR CHRIST, LET THE PERSON BE ACCURSED. GAL.1.v6-9

7. THE ONLY CELEBRATION OR THING JESUS TOLD HIS DISCIPLES TO DO IS REMEMBRANCE OF HIS DEATH WITH HOLY COMMUNION. LUKE 22v19. WHY INVENTING MORE?

8. WHY DID APOSTLE PAUL TEACH CORINTHIANS CHRISTIANS NOT TO UNEVENLY YOKED WITH UNBELIEVERS? 2COR.6v14.

9. WHY DID APOSTLE PAUL TEACH CORINTHIAN CHRISTIANS 'WHAT FELLOWSHIP DO RIGHTEOUSNESS AND LAWLESSNESS HAVE? 2 COR. 6v14

10.WHY DID APOSTLE PAUL TEACH THEM 'WHAT SHARING DOES LIGHT HAVE WITH DARKNESS? ( WHAT SHARING DOES SUN GOD BIRTHDAT CELEBRATION TO DO WITH CHRIST BIRTH) 2COR.6v14

11.WHY DID APOSTLE PAUL TEACH THEM 'WHAT HARMONY IS THERE BETWEEN CHRIST AND BELIAL? OR WHAT DOES A BELIEVER SHARE IN COMMON WITH AN UNBELEIVER? (WHAT HARMONY DOES CHRIST WITH SUN GOD BIRTHDAY WORSHIP?) 2COR.6v15.

12. CHRISTMAS IS SUN GOD WORSHIP RENAMED. ANYBODY TEACHING OTHERWISE IS ANTI CHRIST.... 2Peter 2v1-3 read However, there also came to be false prophets among the people, as there will also be false teachers among you. These will quietly bring in destructive sects and they will even disown the owner who bought them, bringing speedy destruction upon themselves. Furthermore, many will follow their brazen conduct, and because of them the way of the truth will be spoken abusively. Also they will greedily exploit you with counterfeit words. But their judgement, decided long ago, is not moving slowly and their destruction is not sleeping.

AM VERY SORRY THE WRITER OF THE ABOVE ARTICLE SHOULD WITHDRAW THE ARTICLE BECAUSE IT IS CRAFTILY DESIGNED WITH MANIPULATIONS OF HOLY SCRIPTURES TO BACK UP A PAGAN FESTIVAL RENAMED. I WANT TO BELIEVE THAT THE WRITER IS IN ERROR WITHOUT KNOWING. TRUE CHRISTIANS ONLY FOLLOW JESUS AND APOSTLES TEACHINGS, ANY OTHER IS COMPLETELY ANTI CHRIST TEACHING.

If Christians have successfully converted the days of the week into celebrating and worshipping God, then it's a BIG achievement...that Christ is celebrated while an unknown pagan deity was pushed into oblivion..it is actually a victory for the gospel and the name of Christ...

LuciferCatholic:



You didn't take the decision.
The decision was made for you by force.

Constantine passed it as a decree and commanded that it be celebrated on December 25th.

Christians had no choice

The brainwashed folk don't read anything other than the bible , how would they know

AkpaMgbor:
If Christians have successfully converted the days of the week into celebrating and worshipping God, then it's a BIG achievement...that Christ is celebrated while an unknown pagan deity was pushed into oblivion..it is actually a victory for the gospel and the name of Christ...

That's funny - the virgin birth of your Christ is a PAGAN superstition. Lets just call it a PAGAN mess.

ALBHAGDADI, SHOW US WHERE JESUS INSTRUCTED YOU TO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS.


If you can't the you are a naysayer.
A false prophet.

chloride6:
See two fighting up there...



Is Christmas a human intervention? Yes

What you choose to celebrate in December is your business.

For me, Christmas isnt even about the birth of Christ...

I have also forgotten Jesus was allegedly born on Dec 25.

December na time to flex, relax, see friends and family, and plan for the new year..

Every Mallam with him Kettle.

U forget to add, it's time to do many vices u haven't had time to do during the year, like go carry chichi, kolobi amala, one night stand with titi and clubbing with zainab... After greeting drunk and motor almost ran u over

alBHAGDADI:


Since we took the decision to set it on a day which you say belongs to pagan gods, we have been able to concert those pagans and also overshadowed their celebrations. Today, people don't even celebrate those gods anymore. All they do is celebrate Christmas. Muslims, Buddhist, unbelievers etc all celebrate Christmas, and from there we preach to them .

I didn't even see this post before making mine..you have wisdom..to see that this conversion from pagan worship to the worship of Christ is actually a victory to the glory of God..

LuciferCatholic:




No sir. It didn't "happen to fall on a day pagans celebrate their own god" by chance.
It was deliberately chosen to be celebrated on a day pagans celebrated their own god by the pagan, Emperor Constantine in 336AD.

Christians didn't choose December 25th, Constantine forced it on everyone.


You cannot respond to this because I am really exposing your misleading doctrines this morning so you haven decided to duel with far simpler comments.

You misunderstood my saying that it happened to fall...

We Christians chose that day because we saw the possibility and good it will bring. Since our decision to pick that day, many pagans have been converted. Today, only haters like you remember December 25th as a pagan day. Pagans of today don't even celebrate December 25th because they've been conquered by Christianity. Jesus is now the reason for the season.

Constantine never forced December 25tj on Christians. Rather it was Christians that chose the day. Saying he forced it is the same as saying Christians will stupidly accept the mark of the beast when the Antichrist forces it. The Bible days we won't.

kiddoiLL:
I'm glad and excited you took your time to make research and you found out the true names behind all of this days, months and celebration thing. But here's the thing he who knows the truth will be set free by the truth. Not only will Christians celebrate pagan festivals, right from Easter to Christmas, but they've abandoned the real festive periods in the he Bible. The real days of celebration down from The feast of Pentecost down to the feast of Tabernacles and the rest.. The hypocrisy is something else,..Now you know that the days, festivals were changed abi? And still yet most of you guys see nothing wrong with it and focus on it like nothing else. I'll drop this here, you do know the Roman Empire is the 4th kingdom and has been ruling right and that Emperor Constantine is the Roman King that changed almost all Christian laws, festivals and times right? ... I don't see any justification in your post

. What Bible app is that?

OP...is the moniker you are using... Albhagdadi not the name of that bastard terrorist , murderer and rapist who leads ISIS?

alBHAGDADI:


You all keep saying origin. Is the birth of Jesus which we celebrate originated from paganism? It just happens to fall on a day pagans celebrate their own god. No one even Celebrates those gods anymore. Do you celebrate your birthday? If yes, then will you do so if it fell on December 25th?

You agreed in one of your posts that Christians converted the day the pagans were celebrating their pagan god, December 25, to the day for Christmas celebration. In other words, you changed the name from celebration of SUN god to the celebration of the birth of JESUS CHRIST. Is it not similar to what the Israelites did, in changing the festival to FALSE gods to the festival of JEHOVAH? Please read Exodus 32:4-10 again.

2Corinthians 6:14-18 says: What fellowship do unrighteousness and lawlessness have? Or what sharing does light have with darkness? Further, what harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what portion does a faithful person have with an unbeliever? And what agreement does God's temple have with idols?........ Therefore get out from among them and separate yourselves, says Jehovah, and quit touching the unclean thing and I will take you in........." So a person who has genuine love for God will break free from practices with unchristian undertones. True Christians should not celebrate Christmas simply because it has a paganic undertone and the precedence set forth in the book of Exodus confirms that.

MadamExcellency:


Deeper Life Bible Church built their headquarters in a former evil forest in Gbagada hence by your definition, their prayers will forever be ignored.

Get of your high horse and understand that God owns the days, the earth and the fullness thereof and they that dwell therein.

Go and read the new testament commandments in respect on holy days.

Oga, still doesn't change the fact that our system of counting days and time were designed by pagan humans.......
God owns the days I'm totally in agreement. But the average Igbo man believes in the market day system which belonged to some certain god to different days.
If God had brought a system we probably won't be arguing about this

frosbel2:


That's funny - the virgin birth of your Christ is a PAGAN superstition. Lets just call it a PAGAN mess.

Frosbel2, I will only reply you this one time, I've KNOWN your moniker and what you stand for..I will advise all true Christians to stay away from mentioning this moniker..he is a derailer..

alBHAGDADI:


Since we took the decision to set it on a day which you say belongs to pagan gods, we have been able to concert those pagans and also overshadowed their celebrations. Today, people don't even celebrate those gods anymore. All they do is celebrate Christmas. Muslims, Buddhist, unbelievers etc all celebrate Christmas, and from there we preach to them .

Again talking bullocks. No doctrine made by man has ever met God's standard

LuciferCatholic:
ALBHAGDADI, SHOW US WHERE JESUS INSTRUCTED YOU TO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS.


If you can't the you are a naysayer.
A false prophet.

Show me where Jesus instructed us NOT to celebrate Christmas.

Since we both cant find anywhere such is written in the Bible, then it means it is not a sin celebrating it. Same thing applies with naming ceremonies. Nowhere are we told by the Bible to celebrate naming ceremonies, yet we do. The reason we do is because the Bible doesn't kick against it.

You speaking against such celebrations when the Bible hasn't spoken is the same as speaking when God hasn't spoken.

AkpaMgbor:

Frosbel2, I will only reply you this one time, I've KNOWN your moniker and what you stand for..I will advise all true Christians to stay away from mentioning this moniker..he is a derailer..

Of course, your PAGAN religion hates being challenged on the numerous myths they believe in.

Nigeria has two problems; corruption and religion and I'm not sure about the former.
That doesn't mean that y'all shud take this as an excuse not to cook Xmas food o. We will eat it Even if you say na amadioha festival as long as its hygienic.

sweetilicious:
I am confused o.The church I go to taught me all this, but like what you said,I argued in acceptance of your assertion.Lets say it was not the day Jesus was born,any other day set aside for it will still be debated by some.Is it that they don't want us to believe in the son of God, Jesus or celebrate his birth which was for the salvation of our soul?

The first 6 letters in "CHRISTMAS" are the most important dear. Anybody against Christmas is definitely against Christ But in a subtle way

alBHAGDADI:


Show me where Jesus instructed us NOT to celebrate Christmas.

Since we both cant find anywhere such is written in the Bible, then it means it is not a sin celebrating it. Same thing applies with naming ceremonies. Nowhere are we told by the Bible to celebrate naming ceremonies, yet we do. The reason we do is because the Bible doesn't kick against it.

You speaking against such celebrations when the Bible hasn't spoken is the same as speaking when God hasn't spoken.

You know the moniker you're replying..you should know that the person behind such moniker is NOT here to agree or learn..but to derail and confuse..why give him such audience??

AkpaMgbor:

You just refuse to accept wisdom..for reasons I know not..for the umpteenth time, NO pagan god owns any day of the week! Not then, not now and not ever! If you claim to be a Christian, then your aim and sole purpose should be to convert..that means converting all the pervertion of the devil..I gave you example of how Paul converted idol worshippers using an unknown idolised statue which they made..he did it on the very day they worship those idols..he didn't say "I will convert them on another day that is not marked out for idol worship"...

Like I told the other guy. If God created a system for counting days and time we wouldn't be having this argument

alBHAGDADI:


You misunderstood my saying that it happened to fall...

We Christians chose that day because we saw the possibility and good it will bring. Since our decision to pick that day, many pagans have been converted. Today, only haters like you remember December 25th as a pagan day. Pagans of today don't even celebrate December 25th because they've been conquered by Christianity. Jesus is now the reason for the season.

Constantine never forced December 25tj on Christians. Rather it was Christians that chose the day. Saying he forced it is the same as saying Christians will stupidly accept the mark of the beast when the Antichrist forces it. The Bible days we won't.

Christians did not choose December 25th.

Stop lying and twisting facts.

Emperor Constantine of Rome passed a decree in 336AD declaring Deember 25th as Christmas Day in a bid to end the rioting that threatened to tear his empire into two.


Please stop lying publicly. This is exactly why Christians like you are called uneducated. You do not bother to read your own history.

Preator:

So are other Faiths. But this faiths can only be judged from the dictates of their religious text rather than the actions of their practitioners/adherents

Christ like...
that's all you have to know

ItsTime4me:
You agreed in one of your posts that Christians converted the day the pagans were celebrating their pagan god, December 25, to the day for Christmas celebration. In other words, you changed the name from celebration of SUN god to the celebration of the birth of JESUS CHRIST. Is it not similar to what the Israelites did, in changing the festival to FALSE gods to the festival of JEHOVAH? Please read Exodus 32:4-10 again.

2Corinthians 6:14-18 says: What fellowship do unrighteousness and lawlessness have? Or what sharing does light have with darkness? Further, what harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what portion does a faithful person have with an unbeliever? And what agreement does God's temple have with idols?........ Therefore get out from among them and separate yourselves, says Jehovah, and quit touching the unclean thing and I will take you in........." So a person who has genuine love for God will break free from practices with unchristian undertones. True Christians should not celebrate Christmas simply because it has a paganic undertone and the precedence set forth in the book of Exodus confirms that.

Stop being smart by half. What the Israelite did is quite different from what Christians are doing today. The Israelites molded a calf of gold and bowed before it on worship. What will you say we now before when we celebrate Christmas? If at all you have anytjingnto point to, it is Jesus whom we celebrate on Christmas day.

You have quoted wrongly the passage in Corinthians. We are not mixing our celebrations with pagan festivals. We simply initiated our own celebration and it has since swallowed theirs onto oblivion.

alBHAGDADI:


Show me where Jesus instructed us NOT to celebrate Christmas.

Since we both cant find anywhere such is written in the Bible, then it means it is not a sin celebrating it. Same thing applies with naming ceremonies. Nowhere are we told by the Bible to celebrate naming ceremonies, yet we do. The reason we do is because the Bible doesn't kick against it.

You speaking against such celebrations when the Bible hasn't spoken is the same as speaking when God hasn't spoken.

So you cannot defend your own beliefs?

You have been very good at quoting Bible verses so far.
Quote me a Bible verse where Jesus Christ instructed his followers to celebrate Christmas.

Simple.

So in conclusion, what are you trying to say?