Bible said it in Genesis that god created night and day, and said let it show times and seasons for religious festivals. this means that the purpose for the creation of day and night by the christian god will not be fulfilled if it doesn't show times and seasons for religious festivals eg Christmas.
you can go and look it up in the Bible to verify the things i just said.

and when anyone out there is still very concerned about the day, well Bible says that what ever you consider bound on earth, is considered boud in heaven.

so if the Christian church decides to celebrate the birth of jesus on a certain day, be sure that even Allah himself in heaven will put on his dancing shoes on that day just like the angels did on the first Christmas in history. Bible says a host of angels appeared in heaven singing glory and god in the highest, and peace to men of goodwill.

@joagbaje @donnie @paulpery @alBHAGDADI @imam07 @iyamchee @Barristter07 @Lucifer Catholic @djon78

alBHAGDADI:

Please, kindly excise patience in reading the below article. It will save you from the lies coming from those attacking Christmas.


Christmas has been coming under attack of recent with many claiming it is a pagan festival and has nothing to do with Jesus Christ nor his birthday as claimed by Christians. The attack use to be usually around Christmas period but these days they start attacking it right from January.

Let’s examine their argument and weigh them with the Bible to see whether it is accurate and worth making of Christians dump Christmas.

Their argument is just centered around the following themes: Birthday is pagan, Jesus wasn’t born on December 25th, Nimrod, Christmas tree is pagan etc. Let’s examine them one by one and even add more.


1. Birthday is a pagan practice


This statement is majorly held by the Jehovah’s Witnesses which are people in a false religion. They say the reason why Christians should not celebrate their birthday is because “two evil men” were the only ones recorded in the Bible to have celebrated their birthday.  The men are Pharaoh of Egypt and King Herod whom it is recorded that they killed someone on their birthday. Pharaoh killed his chief baker while Herod killed John the Baptist.

What the Jehovah's Witnesses are saying in essence is that because 2 men who existed ages ago decided to kill someone on their birthday, we all existing today should not acknowledge and celebrate our birthday. Which Bible verse says we shouldn't celebrate our birthday? There is no such command found in the Bible, so it is not a sin or wrong to celebrate one's birthday.

If you read Mathew 14;3-10 you will see that Herod killing John the Baptist was not because killing someone on one's birthday was a normal practice. He killed John just to fulfill his promise to his daughter that he would do whatever she wanted for dancing so greatly. His daughter requested for John's head and he had no choice but to fulfill it just to honor his word as a king.

As for Pharaoh, he did absolutely nothing wrong in killing his chief baker because the chief baker and his chief butler offended him.


Genesis 40:1

And it came to pass after these things, that the butler of the king of Egypt and his baker had offended their lord the king of Egypt.  

Pharaoh was even kind enough to spare his butler but killed the baker on his birthday. The punishment the baker got must actually be what he deserved according to the King of Egypt. So there is nothing wrong with him receiving his punishment accordingly.  Therefore, Pharaoh cannot be said to have done any wrong on his birthday. As a matter of fact, he did good, which is having mercy on one of the offenders. So, the talk of not celebrating birthday because two men killed someone on their's holds no water. Pharaoh's kindness of sparing the Butler is the reason why the children of Jacob were spared from famine because the Butler got to tell Pharaoh about the dream interpreting abilities of Joseph.

They also love to quote the below verse to discredit birthday celebration.


Ecc 7:1

A good name is better than precious ointment; and the day of death than the day of one's birth.  

Yes, the day of one's death is better than the day of one's birth. But does the verse say the day of one's birth is bad? No. If the Bible says the day of one's death is BETTER than the day of one's birth, then it means the day of one's birth is GOOD. Remember Good, Better, Best. Now, since the day of one's birth is GOOD, then it means it is good to celebrate it. Until they can show a verse which says Christians should not celerbate birthdays, I will continue to celebrate birthdays including that of Jesus.

What they are doing by saying we shouldn't celebrate birthdays is basically speaking when God has not spoken. They are telling us to do what the Bible never said. The Bible says such people are teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. They tell me to do certain things and try to make it look like it is God that said so.

Matthew 15:9 

But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. 


2. Jesus wasn’t born on December 25th  


Yes he wasn't born on December 25th, but there's a 100% chance that he was. They also say December 25th was formerly used to celebrate the birthday of Nimrod whom they say is a pagan God. Was Nimrod a god? The Bible and Jewish sources are the only books with accounts of Nimrod. The Bible says:


Genesis 10:8-9

8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.

9 He was a mighty hunter before the Lord: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord.

As seen above, the Bible didn't record anything bad about Nimrod because being a mighty hunter before God is not a bad description of a person. However, the other story about Nimrod can be found in Jewish Talmud written in the Middle Ages, hundreds of years after the New Testament had been in circulation. That's where you will find stories of how Nimrod was a god who married his mother and gave birth to a son Tamuz who also his reincarnation... blah blah blah. Those are all fables written thousands of years after Nimrod died and by people who didn't exist during his days. You can never find any Bible verse that says we shouldn't celebrate Christmas, but I can show you a verse that says we should stay away from Jewish Fables and the commandments of men which don't go with God's word.


Titus 1:14

Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.  

As a Christian, you are not to listen to the Jews or read their religious books other than you reading the Bible. The Jews have been rejected by God because they rejected Jesus Christ. I now wonder why anyone would be expecting me to abandon the celebration of the birth of Jesus my Lord and Savior simply because a book written by Christ rejecting Jews made false claims about Jesus. 

Do you also know that the Talmud of the Jews says that Jesus real father was a Roman soldier named Pantera who slept with Mary? Is that the same book who wrote lies about Nimrod and Jesus that you want to dump Christmas because of? The Jews are antichrists because their religion of Judaism rejects Jesus as the son of God, a thing which the Bible says qualifies one as an Antichrist.


1 John 2:22

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son

It is pretty clear why those Jews cooked up shady stories which many are now using to attack the celebration of Christmas. The birth of Jesus, which we celebrate on Christmas day, is a declaration that Judaism, the practice and religion of the Jews, is no longer valid. The birth of Jesus Christ put and end to their believe, that's why they are annoyed. It's silly for you bring the Nimrod information from people whom the Bible calls antichrists and expect me to receive it.

Once again, all those people who try to force you to do what is not written in the Bible which is the word of God, are actually teaching their man-made commandments and trying to make it the doctrines of God. They tell you not to celebrate Christmas but can't show you were God said so in the Bible.


Mathew 15:9

But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.  

December 25th may have been dedicated to the worship of a false god which I believe the people of those days were influenced by Satan to do such. But many of such people have today come to the realization of the true God and have turned that day into the celebration of him. Satan doesn't own any day because he never created one. All days were created by God and so it is not a bad thing picking any of those days to celebrate the birth of his son who came to save us from our sins. Since all days belong to God our father, what Christians of old did was repossess their father's possession and made it holy. It is the same thing that happens when a demon is driven out of an individual and the Holy Spirit enters into the individual to dwell. You can't tell me that such individual is still demonic, because demons can't reside where the Holy Spirit resides.

All those who say we shouldn't celebrate Christmas because December 25th was dedicated to a false god are just hypocrites. Got to their house, you will find a calendar on their wall, and this calendar contains days and months named after false gods. Examples are January dedicated to the false god Janus, Thursday dedicated to Thor, Saturday dedicated to Saturn etc. Are we now to stop existing on each of these days because some ignorant people dedicated them to false and weak gods? If those anti-christmas people say they don't have a calendar at home because they know it contains pagan names, don't they have a calendar app in the phones? Maybe they should throw their phones away because they are walking about with paganism. Apostle Paul said we can eat anything dedicated to gods and put it inside our belly. Any day dedicated to a false god can be taken by we Christians and dedicate it to the true God who created days.

Now, is there anything wrong with celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ, eating food with family on that day, exchanging gifts, singing Christmas Carol that most times quote Bible verses etc? There is nothing wrong at all. And for someone to sit somewhere and say Christmas is a wicked festival, I ask, what is wicked about all I listed above? Whoever says we are committing sin for celebrating the birth of our Savior Jesus Christ is a false accuser.


3. Christmas tree is pagan


I'll borrow a quote from Pastor Steven Anderson's sermon on the subject. Read below.


If you still think that Christmas trees are bad, then go right ahead, but let's at least look at the facts tonight, and that's all I want to do, is present the biblical facts tonight. In Jeremiah, Chapter 10, Verse 1, the Bible says, "Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto you, O House of Israel. Thus sayeth the Lord, learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven, for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain, for one cut of the tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workmen with the ax, they deck it with silver and with gold, they fasten it with nails and with hammers that it move not."

Right now is where the anti-Christmas people stop reading, and they just take these couple of verses out of context. They stop reading, and they just take Verse 3 and 4, and they say, "Look, it is a vain, heathen custom to cut down a tree," okay, "And to deck it with silver and gold, and to fasten it with nails and hammers." Here's what they say. They say that's what you're doing when you decorate a Christmas tree. They say you've cut down a tree, and you're basically decking it with gold and silver, and they're saying because you put a gold and a silver ornament on it. Okay, that's their view. That is not what this scripture is talking about. If you stop reading right there, you could use that to convince people of your point, but that's not what it's really about, because keep reading.

Look at Verse 5. It says, "They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not. They must needs be borne because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them, for they cannot do evil. Neither also is it in them to do good. For as much as there is none like unto thee, O Lord." 

Stop. What this is talking about, and I'm going to prove it to you from the rest of the chapter, this is talking about cutting down a tree in the forest, and carving it into an idol that is silver or gold plated. When the Bible says that it is decked with gold and silver, that is not saying hanging a silver ball on it. When you deck something over with silver, okay, you are covering it with silver. For example, the deck on your house. Your house might have a deck, okay? It's a covering, is what that means. What the Bible is saying here is that they're carving it into an idol, because look, in Verse 5, he says, "They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not."

Look, nobody thinks that a Christmas tree can speak, or walk, or do good or evil, because it's a tree, right? There are people who carve a tree into an idol of a false god, and they think that that false god can speak, or walk, or do these things, okay? Keep reading. Jump down if you would to Verse 8. It says, "But they are altogether brutish and foolish. The stock," okay, talking about basically the stump of the tree that's being carved, "Is a doctrine of vanities." Watch. Silver spread into plates. Look. Is this a round, silver ornament hanging on the tree? Is this a silver garland? No. It's what I said. It's silver spread into plates, because it's being silver plated, or gold plated, okay? It says, "Silver spread into plates is brought from Tarshish, and gold from Ufaz, the work of the workman, and of the hands of the founder." Okay?

Jump down to Verse 14. It says, "Every man is brutish in his knowledge. Every founder is confounded by the" what? Graven image. "For his molten image is falsehood, and there is no breath in him. They are vanity." Look, you can't just take two verses out of context. You have to read the whole chapter. This whole chapter is talking about the same subject. Notice the same words are being used. Look at Verse 3, okay? If you have a pen, you may want to underline a few key words here, okay? In Verse 3, the Bible says, "The customs of the people are" what? Vain, and then it says they cut down a tree, right? Okay, now if you jump down to where he's talking about the graven image, he says in Verse 15, "They are vanity."

Okay, so what is vain? He says, it's vain to cut down a tree and deck it with gold and silver, and think that it can walk, or talk, or do anything. It's not like the true God. It's a false god. Later on, he says that these graven images or molten images are vain. They are vanity. Okay, he's talking about the same thing. Up earlier, he said in Verse 9, silver spread into plates is brought from Tarshish, and gold from Ufaz, the work of the workman at the hands of the founder. See the word "founder?" Jump down to verse 14. "Every man is brutish in his knowledge. Every founder is confounded by the graven image." If you look at this chapter, there's a continuity of thought here. We are on the same subject in Verse 14 that we were in Verse 3. He's going on and on about the fact that they are carving idols out of wood.

What does it mean to grave, to engrave something? If I brought in something to an artisan, and said, "I want this engraved," they're going to carve my name into it, or they're going to carve some kind of wording into it. Okay. What is molten? Molten comes from the word melting. You melt down metal. You melt silver. You melt gold. A graven image is an image that is carved of wood. A molten image is an image that is made of molten metal, okay, and what he's saying here is that they are carving a wooden idol, and then overlaying it, decking it, with molten gold and silver, and they believe that it is like unto the God of Israel. You know what? People today will often compare the God of the Bible to other gods. They'll say, "You know, why should I believe the God of the Bible any more than I believe in the god of Islam, or Buddha, or whatever?"

There's no God like unto the true God, and the idol is vanity. It can't talk. It has to be carried, and God makes it clear He never wants us to make any image of Him. Does the Bible specifically prohibit graven and molten images? Oh, yeah. It's one of the ten commandments. "Thou shall not make unto thee any graven image." Okay, so there's no question that graven images and molten images are sinful. That matches perfectly with what Jeremiah 10 is teaching, preaching against graven and molten images. To sit there and say, "This is a Christmas tree," and people will even say, "A Christmas tree is a graven image." Let me ask you something. Where's the engraving? Where is it carved? In what way, shape, or form is it carved in any way? Answer me that.

It is just a tree. You brought the tree, and you put it in the house. There's no carving. Nothing has been molten or melted. Look, it's not an image. What's an image? It's something that's made like unto an animal, or a human, or an angel, or a god. Okay, but hold on a second. They'll say, "Well," and go to Isaiah, Chapter 60. They'll say, "Well, you know, okay. It's not a graven image. You got me, Pastor Anderson." Look, can anybody actually say that a Christmas tree is a graven image when it has zero graving and zero molten? Okay, no. They just say, "Yeah, but Jeremiah 10 said not to do it." No, because we read the whole chapter, and it was clear that the tree that they're cutting down in the forest becomes a graven image.

Cutting down trees is not wrong, unless you're part of the Environmental Protection Agency or something. I don't see how you could say there's anything wrong with going into the forest and cutting down a tree, okay? The sin wasn't cutting down the tree. The sin was then graving the tree, carving the tree into an idol, and overlaying it with gold and silver that it might be worshiped.


To conclude this article, I'll say there is nothing wrong in chosen not to celebrate Christmas just as there is nothing wrong with celebrating it. The only wrong found is when those who don't celebrate it start trying to impose their idea on others as if it is a commandment of God when such is not written in the Bible.


Let me explain the below passage so you will understand fully.


Romans 14

Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.

2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

This is talking about a vegan/vegetarian and people who eat meat and all things.

3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.

The above says he that eats all things should not despise the one who doesn't. Also the one who doesn't should not judge the one who does.

4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

The above says we are not to judge each other because we are all servants of God. Our master is the one to judge us. You might says, what has this got to do with Christmas. Just keep reading.

5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

As seems above, it is good to esteem every day in the same manner. Also it is not a bad thing to esteem one day above others just as we esteem December 25th above other days. Verse 6 says he that regards a certain day regards it unto God and he that doesn't regard it does the same unto God.

Ladies and gentlemen, don't let anybody tell you Christmas is a pagan festival. It is not a pagan god we celebrate when we celebrate Jesus who is the reason for the season. It is not a pagan god's story we read when we read Luke 2 from the Bible on Christmas day. If they try to lie to you, show them this article which I will advise you to bookmark because these people will still come around next year with the same lies.

And please don't forget to send me a Christmas gift. PM Now

Booked marked already and God bless.

Alexis11:


Lol.... Oga relax now. May you not have any cause to celebrate in life. I guess that is simple enough.

Please leave OP alone to enjoy his celebration.

I say amen to it

spiritedtete:


You can turn a specific date into a memorable one... Just to achieve a purpose.

Christmas is celebrated all over the world even in the Muslim country... That is the awareness Christians tends to achieve.

God bless. This is what these fools turned blind eyes to.

femi4:
Every day is redeemed. No evil can claim sole ownership of any day. Even Nig moved democracy day from May 29 to June 12.

How you live each day is more important than the history of each day.

Monday was coined from MOON DAY, so do you worship the moon every Monday?

Very sensible

Lokoyen:



Very sensible

just want to know which church you attend

In the heritage of pure worship,God's people always imitate the faithful course of ancient servants of God.
Where can we find a worshipper of God celebrating his/her birthday?
We shouldn't judge those celebrating neither should we condemn those who aren't celebrating, what matters most is the outcome of each festivals.
If it's pleasing to God, it will yield good fruits but if not it will always be accompanied by calamitous events.
December is when people celebrates Christmas, so which month of the year is well known for the most saddest events in the year?
God's people meditate on the outcome of every festival and not whether the MAJORITY accepts it!
God bless you Sir!

MiddleDimension:


just want to know which church you attend

No let me insult you. So church is a determinant for Xmas celebration abi!

djon78:



Set my Bible aside This is the advice of people that peddle falsehood.

The Bible is our only authority, it is the word of God, the absolute authority


Psalm 19 King James Version (KJV)

19 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.

3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.

4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,

5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.

6 His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.

7 The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.

8 The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes.

9 The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.

10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.

11 Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.

12 Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.

13 Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.

14 Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O Lord, my strength, and my redeemer.

King James Version (KJV)

but the Bible doesn't talk about be history of Christianity and how the bible itself was written. You have to read beyond the Bible to know these.

The bible cannot give you answers to the history and beginning of Christmas, you have to read that elsewhere. This is why I think most Christians are programmed or are under a spell

MiddleDimension:

so if the Christian church decides to celebrate the birth of jesus on a certain day, be sure that even Allah himself in heaven will put on his dancing shoes on that day just like the angels did on the first Christmas in history. Bible says a host of angels appeared in heaven singing glory and god in the highest, and peace to men of goodwill.

I agree with you as regards the authority of the Church to choose any day to celebrate the Lord's birth. However, I do not agree with your reference to almighty God as Allah.

Allah is not Jehovah, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the father of our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ.

JJOF:

Brah, if it wasn't 4 Jesus, there would b no christianity.

Was Jesus a Christian?

Alexis11:


Lol.... Oga relax now. May you not have any cause to celebrate in life. I guess that is simple enough.

Please leave OP alone to enjoy his celebration.

Alexis11 , May you and your lineage from start to finish not have anything to celebrate about in life, sorrow will be your breakfast, lunch and dinner...I guess that is simple enough.

MiddleDimension:
Bible said it in Genesis that god created night and day, and said let it show times and seasons for religious festivals. this means that the purpose for the creation of day and night by the christian god will not be fulfilled if it doesn't show times and seasons for religious festivals eg Christmas.
you can go and look it up in the Bible to verify the things i just said.

and when anyone out there is still very concerned about the day, well Bible says that what ever you consider bound on earth, is considered boud in heaven.

so if the Christian church decides to celebrate the birth of jesus on a certain day, be sure that even Allah himself in heaven will put on his dancing shoes on that day just like the angels did on the first Christmas in history. Bible says a host of angels appeared in heaven singing glory and god in the highest, and peace to men of goodwill.

@joagbaje @donnie @paulpery @alBHAGDADI @imam07 @iyamchee @Barristter07 @Lucifer Catholic @djon78

Present where Geñesis said the red? Then I can take u serious

sweetilicious:
But the apostles lived with him in those days.We are meant to accept him in faith of the word written for us to adhere to.And in that word(Bible)we were told of a prophecy that Jesus the son of God would be born by a virgin.That he is the saviour of mankind.That there was celebration in hope before and after the fulfillment of the prophecy.We celebrate his birth for if not that out of his love,he didn't volunteer,we wouldn't be redeemed.The word of God can only be understood deeply by the holy spirit.Lets stop all this shallow understanding.Jesus while on Earth always speaks in parables.I don't accept atrocities committed during the period.But it is bound to have even if we choose another date.We are in the World.We can choose not to be of the world too.

Sentiments and emotions .... Expected!

Now let us face the fact,

" and they continued devoting themselves to the teaching of the apostles " Act 2:42

Show me where they teach that which you are. Celebrating?

MadamExcellency:


What the hell does their events go to do with what I celebrate?

World book Encyclopedia states : Early christians " Considered the celebration of anyone's birth to be a pagan custom "

[s]
God commanded you not to judge me or any other person as matters of celebration are concerned. You hypocrites should just vanish and stop given the church a bad name. [/s]

We are commanded to live holily, peaceably and in love, abstain from formication and meat sacrificed to idols.

We are Christ ambassadors and we are not and we never be in bondage.

If I may ask, do you have "personal" experience with Jesus Christ?

Oh, of cause a Christian is thus free to Celebrate Sallah , birthday of Mohammed, IFA and Sango festivals , Agree?

No one should condemn him , Jesus would support it. Right?

alBHAGDADI:


Let me use your logic.

You say marriage is an institution from God, that's why you believe celebrating wedding anniversary is good even though no scripture says so.

Okay, giving birth which mostly comes after marriage is also as a result of God's work who gives babies. So we celebrate such days even though it is not scriptural. We celebrate birthdays because the Bible doesn't warn against it.

So Mr man, stop speaking where the Bible is silent, or else you will be forcing your commandment on us and claiming it is the doctrine of God.

The Bible isn't silent .


World book Encyclopedia states : Early christians " Considered the celebration of anyone's birth to be a pagan custom "

Unlike wedding anniversary, THE BIBLE RECORD BIRTHDAYS WITH REFERENCE TO PAGANS.

Face the FACT

Barristter07:


The Bible isn't silent .


World book Encyclopedia states : Early christians " Considered the celebration of anyone's birth to be a pagan custom "

Unlike wedding anniversary, THE BIBLE RECORD BIRTHDAYS WITH REFERENCE TO PAGANS.

Face the FACT

Mr Jehovah's false witness, as long as you can't show me where the Bible says we should t celebrate birthdays, then you are a liar for saying it is a pagan custom.

Who are the early Christians? Are they the Bible? Don't you know that early Christians also did circumcisions thinking it was obligatory for the faith?

Lokoyen:

Booked marked already and God bless.

Amen

alBHAGDADI:


Mention one friend of God in the Bible that wore wedding ring, did naming ceremony, wore suit and tie, wore Nike and use iPhone

Useless and baseless analogy because we both agree the bible is silent on all you mentioned

Was it silent on the Fact that birthday festivals belong to pagans ?

Face the fact

alBHAGDADI:


Mr Jehovah's false witness, as long as you can't show me where the Bible says we should t celebrate birthdays, then you are a liar for saying it is a pagan custom.

Who are the early Christians? Are they the Bible? Don't you know that early Christians also did circumcisions thinking it was obligatory for the faith?

Hahahahaha, So the Bible was lying for making birthday references TO ONLY PAGANS ?

Face the fact

1Sharon:

Was Jesus a Christian?

Was he a Judaismist?

JJOF:

Was he a Judaismist?

He was a Jew actually

1Sharon:


He was a Jew actually

But he didn't engage in all of their practices. Infact, when he came, he brought new laws. So yeah, he was a jew by birth, but didn't practice judaism.

Barristter07:


World book Encyclopedia states : Early christians " Considered the celebration of anyone's birth to be a pagan custom "



Oh, of cause a Christian is thus free to Celebrate Sallah , birthday of Mohammed, IFA and Sango festivals , Agree?

No one should condemn him , Jesus would support it. Right?

Were those festivals called Christmas?

Hypocrite.

Do you mean people don't celebrate on Sango festive days based on coincidence?

Every festival has a unique name hence are different no matter how similar provided the dedication is different, they are not the same.


The Bible warns your type to stop being busybody in other men's matter.

If you don't celebrate, it's good but don't go about badmouthing others who don't harm you with their happiness

donnie:


I agree with you as regards the authority of the Church to choose any day to celebrate the Lord's birth. However, I do not agree with your reference to almighty God as Allah.

Allah is not Jehovah, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the father of our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ.

what i have written i have written.

john 19:22
...what I have written I have written.

Barristter07:



Present where Geñesis said the red? Then I can take u serious

thats actually good news Bible.

but here is NIV

14And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years,

gods word translation

14Then God said, "Let there be lights in the sky to separate the day from the night. They will be signs and will mark religious festivals, days, and years.


jubilee Bible 2000

14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for appointed times and for days and years;

can you take me seriously now?

all quotations are Genesis chapter 1 vs 14

Lokoyen:


No let me insult you. So church is a determinant for Xmas celebration abi!

i am actually on your side.
jehovah's witnesses don't celebrate Christmas

Barristter07:



Sentiments and emotions .... Expected!

Now let us face the fact,

" and they continued devoting themselves to the teaching of the apostles " Act 2:42

Show me where they teach that which you are. Celebrating?

Please if you don't want to celebrate or remember the birthday of Jesus the son of God,who was sent for our redemption,then don't.You can decide to celebrate it everyday,fine.Allow those that want to reverence God for his Mercy on the world to do so.Just like tithing has been debated and some believe in it while some prefer giving as a form.As your spirit leads you Mbok.

Barristter07:


Useless and baseless analogy because we both agree the bible is silent on all you mentioned

Was it silent on the Fact that birthday festivals belong to pagans ?

Face the fact

Jehovah's false witness, nowhere is it written that birthday belongs to pagans.

MiddleDimension:
i am actually on your side.
jehovah's witnesses don't celebrate Christmas

Even deeper life people too claimed its pagan celebration, Yet they work with pagan calendar.

MiddleDimension:
Bible said it in Genesis that god created night and day, and said let it show times and seasons for religious festivals. this means that the purpose for the creation of day and night by the christian god will not be fulfilled if it doesn't show times and seasons for religious festivals eg Christmas.
you can go and look it up in the Bible to verify the things i just said.

and when anyone out there is still very concerned about the day, well Bible says that what ever you consider bound on earth, is considered boud in heaven.

so if the Christian church decides to celebrate the birth of jesus on a certain day, be sure that even Allah himself in heaven will put on his dancing shoes on that day just like the angels did on the first Christmas in history. Bible says a host of angels appeared in heaven singing glory and god in the highest, and peace to men of goodwill.

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GBAM!

In as much as i do not impose my beliefs on anyone else, it is proper for us to understand the truth.
Christmas celebration as has been discussed by other people here didnt start till the fourth century which tells you there is something fishy, also the only event Jesus asked to be done in his rememberance is the commemoration of his death (the Lord's evening meal) (Lu 22:19) this is the singular and most important event for all christains as it is Jesus' death and not his birth that paved way for our being able to gain God's undeserved kindness (mercy) and being declared righteous (Rom 5:18-19, 6:23). It will not be right on our part to continue as hypocritical christains (Rom 12:9), so we want to heed the counsel in Romans 12:1 to present ourselves holy and acceptable to God!