rvp2018:
When did Brookside cease being Kenya.I know they sold 40% to French dairy conglomerate Dandone but it remain majority owned by Kenyatta.Prepare to start drinking Brookside milk soon.Helios enough evidence suggest it London PE with major stake by Nairobi $ Lagos.Kenya has way more homegrown multinationals than Nigeria..in almost every sector kenya companies have operation in East and part of Southern Africa.Not just Dangote and your Banks and Helios.If Nigeria sign free trade youll see kenyan companies in Lagos competing with South African.

rvp20183:
You're crazy.Nigeria is a zoo.Kenya is progressive nation with few things to fix.Just pick any index and check.Dont pick outliers like that covenant university.We have two issues that we are sorting.. corruption and hard one ethnic politics.Othewise pick any indicator of progress...and Kenya is almost assured to be ranked top 5 in Sub Sahara..and Nigeria almost assured to be ranked at the bottom.The are no Nigerian companies in Kenya with any serious stake...some off your banks bought struggling family banks with 2 branches and the Helios a London based Equity fund bought equity in some companies.South African cannot hack Kenya..how can Nigeria manage.Dangote still terrified to step in .In 15yrs we have grown our economy from $12B to $90B.Tax revenue includingAIA from $2B to $20B.Be terrified about the next 15yrs.We have halved those living in poverty.Electricity coverage from 12% to 80%.We have built world class infrastructure.Expanded universities from 7 public to nearly 70 plus many private.Enrollment from 50K to o.6M.Primary education enrollment shot up like crazy.Secondary education transition approaching 100%.We can go on and on...but you won't accept our lies.Although every Kenyan always painstakingly seek to provide empirical evidence.

Nowenuse:


Yes genieluv, I already had a debate with NairobiWalker on the cheapness of Nigerian houses compared to Kenyan houses and I gave him a good ol whoopinh on that , then they started giving excuses on how houses and life is generally expensive in Kenya because Kenya is better advanced than Nigeria.

I then showed them purchasing power parity and nominal per capital figures which showed that life in Malaysia is cheaper than that of Kenya, and can you believe that these idiots went as far as comparing Kenya to Malaysia just to excuse the expensiveness of life in their country?

NairobiWalker:


Who owns Helios?

genieluv:


Interesting. It's good to develop one's own unique cultures and systems in my opinion.

**** Do Tigrays, Amharas, Oromos and others share exactly the same Ethiopian orthodox church, practices, liturgical language and leadership?
Do you guys have a superior leader like the 'Pope'?
Are Eritrean christians under the leadership of the Ethiopian orthodox?

NairobiWalker:

It's metaphoric idiot. I don't care where you badly run companies invest.

rvp20183:
Cheap is expensive.The solution is not turn entire cities into slums.its for gov to invest in cheap social housing.We are trying 0.5m that will house 2 to 3m.

Ibrahimanis:

@bolded.
The liar is back. You always beat Nigeria in PE? Show me your source! You beat Nigeria 2017 good and fine. But you do not "always beat Nigeria".

Between 2011-2018, the regions with the most PEs are South Africa, west Africa, East Africa in that order. Nigeria accounts for 73% of deals in West Africa, Kenya accounts for 55% deals in East Africa. So please explain to me how Kenya has always beat Nigeria in PE!

https://www.pulse.ng/bi/finance/finance-equity-investors-find-nigeria-more-attractive-than-south-africa-kenya/9lf5dqb.amp


https://allafrica.com/stories/201711290506.html

https://www.businessamlive.com/nigeria-accounts-for-73-of-west-africas-10-7bn-private-equity-funds-as-at-2017-report/amp/

https://www.businessdayonline.com/pe-fundraising/article/nigeria-beats-peers-private-equity-deals-five-years/

In fact between 2012-2017, Nigeria accounts for the most PE deals in Africa.

Still waiting for your source that Kenya has "always beat Nigeria in PE".

genieluv:


Can you pls link me to that debate so that I can see for myself?

NairobiWalker:


Stop being stupid, Nigerian 'businesses' make no impact in Africa despite the fact that you constitute 20% of the continent populationwise. The only country that makes an impact in the whole of Africa economically is South Africa.

68816419:

hater spoted , Let me first start with our banks before moving to other sectors, Nigeria Banks are all over African countries including your small country, our banks have more global outreach than any other country in Africa including SA.
Bellow are few Nigeria Banks with Global outreach , you find our banks in any Africa countries not only in west Africa.

UBA Banks owner Tony Elemulu
Global Branches
UK,US,France,Benin, Burkina Faso, Cameroon, cote Ivoire,Gabon ,Guinea, Kenya , Liberia,Mozambique, Senegal, Tanzania, Chad, uganda,zambia .
Zenith Bank - -Chairman Jim Ovi
Global branches
Ghana,United Arab Emirates,Sierra Leone,Gambi,South Africa,United Kingdom,China
First Bank of Nigeria,- key People - Mrs. Ibukun Awosika,Urum Kalu Eke Mfr Group Managing Director, FBN Holdings,Dr. Adesola Adeduntan,Group Managing Director/CEO, Gbenga Francis Shobo, ACA Deputy Managing Director Dauda Lawal],Executive Director, Public Sector Chairman
Global Branches
FBN Bank (China),FBN Bank (Ghana),FBN Bank (Guine),FBN Bank (Senegal),FBN Bank (Sierra Leone),FBN Bank (South Africa),FBN Bank (UAE),FBN Bank (UK) ,FBN Bank (UK/Paris) ,FBN Bank (DRC) Formerly Banque International de Credit (BIC)
Guaranty Trust Bank- Key People - Segun Agbaje, (CEO) Osaretin Demuren, (Chairman)

Global Branches
[b]GTBank Kenya - Nairobi, Kenya [/b] ,GTBank Rwanda,GTBank Uganda - Kampala, Uganda,GTBank Côte d'Ivoire,GTBank Gambia,GTBank Ghana ,GTBank Liberia,GTBank Sierra Leone,GTBank UK,GTBank Tanzania
Acces Bank Key people Mosun Belo-Olusoga, Chairperson; Herbert Wigwe, Group Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer
(Sponsor of Lagos Marathon)
Global branches
Access Bank Group is a Nigeria-based multinational financial services organization headquartered, in Victoria Island, Lagos, Nigeria, with subsidiaries in Nigeria, Burundi, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Ghana, Rwanda, the Gambia, Sierra Leone, Zambia and the United Kingdom.[1] As of December 2015, Access Bank Group had assets in excess of US$13 billion

Ecobank Nigeria- Key People - Emmanuel Ikazoboh, chairman
Ade Ayeyem "Ecobank Transnational Inc. (ETI) is the parent company of the Ecobank Group"
Branches
with offices in 32 countries including Benin, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, Cape Verde, the Central African Republic, Chad, the Republic of Congo, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Côte d'Ivoire, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea Bissau, Kenya , Liberia, Mali, Malawi, Niger, Nigeria, Rwanda, Sao Tome, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Togo, Uganda, Zambia and Zimbabwe.[7] Ecobank also maintains a banking subsidiary in Paris and representative offices in Johannesburg, Dubai and London.

Next will be, Nigeria manufacturing companies across Africa

samsobo24:
You just ran into my comment like an hungry kid.

His company isn't recognized here,who is he self

Unlike your whites
Owning

Your tea farms
Your CBD
Your manufacturing companies
Your top banks
Your biggest malls
Your biggest telecom
Even controlling your Airport
What of Mombasa port
Dominating your big Estates

How many %,of aboriginal Kenyan establishment are on the NSE

rvp2018:
120 PLUS South Africa companies in Nigeria including dominant ones like Eskom,Mtn, SAB Miller, Stanbic Bank and name them.What saves Nigeria from a complete rout is their protectionist policy.South Africa companies in Kenya are handful and none is dominant.We have buried many South Africans firms in Kenya and seen them leave without their shirt..not thro protection but business competition like they didnt expect.EABL kicked SAB miller arse so bad they will never attempt.MTN have tried to find a way in but they know Safaricom will bury them alive..they are everywhere but Nairobi.Same with Eskom.Stanbic despite buying CFC continue to slip unable to face competition..in Uganda and most of the countries like TZ they dominate like crazy.DSTV probably the dominant in sports paytv in kenya is partnership with KBC..multichoice.Shoprite and Game are rearing their ugly heads finally after 10yrs of salivation coz of Nakumatt trouble but they wont survive long time..Tuskys, Naivas and Nakumatt will beat them and send them back to Tz or UG or Nigeria.We lost count of how many south african stores attempted and failed before..cash n carry, woolworth.South Africa airways attempted but KQ didnt even wait for them to get Nairobi..KQ beat them in Tanzania and left them saddled in debts..they ran away leaving TZ without a national carrier.Then you hear Nigeria paper tigers like Dangote and their little banks coming for their funeral in kenya..and you laugh.If South African firms have failed for 30yrs to get foothold in kenya economy..How will Nigeria make it.Dominate Kenya..you got jokes..our private sector is only second to South Africa and we run a free market based economy.

NairobiWalker:


You're simply listing Nigerian businesses. Every country has its business. What I'm saying is, if Nigeria was to be wiped off the face of the earth, a Kenyan would never be affected in any way. Your companies have no impact on our economy.

Nowenuse:


With all these, Kenya slum population is increasing.

Starvation in the midst of peace and abundance is still an annual thing in Kenya.
Why? Because most of the available arable land in Kenya is used for farming tea and flower gardens by Kenyatta & family and other foreigners.

Kenya is still predominantly rural.

There is so much underdevelopment in large parts of Kenya that people still live stone age lives (turkanas, Samburus e.t.c)

People in certain parts of Kenya have to travel hundreds to thousands of kilometres before they can come across any city.

Life in Kenya (a developing country) is still very expensive compared to other developing nations who are even doing better than you guys.

The economy of Kenya is still heavily dominated by foreigners. In a country that is 99% black, the richest people are from the 1% white skinned minority.

Black politicians instead of Black business men are still the richest people in Kenya and these thieves still flaunt their wealth in the faces of the masses.

Kenya cannot still boast of a very powerful entertainment and fashion industry. Your entertainment is still heavily dominate by Nigeria & Tanzania.

Kenyans have been mentally colonized by the Europeans. There is no celebration and promotion of African cultures, African festivals, carnivals, African attires etc. Rather grown up Black African men prefer to celebrate Blanket & tea parties like teenage European girls.

Tribalism is still the order of the day in Kenya in spite of the fact that you guys have a national language (swahili) which should have been used to unite everyone as one just like Tanzania did.
Where were Kenyans when Tanzania united everyone in their nation with swahili and buried tribalism? Yet you guys want to still argue ownership, proficiency and promotion of swahili with Tanzanians.

NairobiWalker:

Is this idiot a Kenyan?

forgiveness:

jaycent:
Are you mad or you're just plain stupid look clearly ogbeni

genieluv:


The only slummish parts you see in Nigerian cities are mostly old houses of indigenous peoples. People do not build new slum houses in Nigeria.

**** Cheap social housing ends up looking like a disaster if not properly maintained.

forgiveness:

bantudra:


nsalla warrior...come confront me face to face....mbok....

am not happy with nigeria either,in case you dont know....

but am not gonna put myself down infront of complete strangers....thats not gonna happen....

genieluv:


We lack basic electricity yet South African companies are raking in millions of dollars annually? Stop giving excuses for your being local.

***** Even if we assume that Nigeria is at fault, what about other parts of West Africa? Are there Kenyan companies in Ivory coast, Senegal, Ghana, Gambia, Liberia or even Cameroon?

kikuyu1:
Uhuru's on nationtv doing live interviews! Naijjans come see how a prez handles the press! Kazibure,does Magufuli talk or arrest your press?

FrudstaPresidnt:
lazy asshole go google am. Idiot!

genieluv:


Most of you Kenyans here argue stupidly, but that does not give me the right to say you guys are stupid. That's not what cultured and well-mannered people do. So, you can leave me to my so called 'hypocrisy'. Never use direct insultive words on someone. Have you been on foreign fora like Quora, Reddit etc? Do you see people calling each other names over there?

>>>> Stop arguing what you do not know. Most of those houses upstairs are used for storing goods which are sold at the floor level, that's the way it's being done in some Nigerian markets.

***** Besides, let's assume people even live upstairs, do you see as much chaotic occupation upstairs as you see in Umoja or those mass houses in Nairobi? If you look carefully you can see that those upstairs houses are apartment styled, they are like 3 bedroom apartments and you have less than a dozen of them in one building.

These mass kenyan houses have many dozens of appartments and possibly hundreds to thousands of occupants. You yourself make the comparisons.

gallivant:


Let them sign the free trade agreement and we will see the impact.

NairobiWalker:

You've wrongfully called me a liar here and I didn't cry about it. You've called Kenyans ugly, you've called Kenyans starving and we didn't cry about it - stop being hypocritical and a crybaby at the same time.


Food stores with windows? Don't you have silos in Nigeria? Stop being irrational. In that case 90% of housing in Nigerian cities is used for storing food because that's what 90% of your housing looks like.


1. The picture you posted is not of Umoja. Here is what Umoja looks like - this is the reason I keep reminding you to avoiding talking about things you don't understand.

[img]https://www.the-star.co.ke/sites/default/files/styles/new_full_content/public/465760.jpg?itok=u-RsZWZn[/img]

2. The houses I posted are worse than the Kenyan houses you posted. Even a madman can see that. The only 'bad' thing about those apartments is crowding which isn't a bad deal especially if you've visited top global cities like Hong Kong, Singapore and Tokyo that moving from sparse housing to high density Housing. Inside those houses are well furnished modern apartments. Here is a typical Kitchen from those pipeline house. Meanwhile your Nigerian dumps look poorly maintained and old, you can't convince anyone they look like this from the inside.

[img]https://apollo-ireland.akamaized.net/v1/files/narsgrmv0gc71-KE/image;s=850x0[/img]




Once again I would rather live in those Kenyan houses than these dumpsites
[img]https://2.bp..com/-UUL9Dp6l-XY/Vp3K4ZtSiiI/AAAAAAAAAcc/ZGwbEHI4ktk/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/Ibadan-city.jpg[/img]



Of all Africans, a Nigerian should be the last person to speak about overcrowding.

Photos of the inderior of houses in Pipeline Estate, Nairobi.

darfay:





What rubbish tribalism is this?

genieluv:


Would they rather have lived in slums?
I don't think someone like myself can live in Kenya, unless I have a very high paying job, due to the expensive cost of Kenyan houses.
***** Apparently, a one bedroom apartment in Umoja costs $150 per month.
Look at this picture from my current neighbourhood, the house you see on the opposite goes for $69 per month for a 3 bedroom apartment. Can I get such in any Kenyan city?
For someone like me who earns $400 a month, do you expect me to pay $150 for a single bedroom in such overcrowded houses in Umoja? But now I spend only $34 for rent per month in a decent house as you see opposite because I have a housemate and we split the rent bill.
>>>>> Nigeria is far far cheaper than Kenya. The lowest I saw for any Kenyan 3 bedroom apartment online was 30k shillings ($245) per month

t1ann:

The woman is hypocrite those Nigerian houses are more overcrowded than Kenyan houses

genieluv:


Well, you guys keep on playing local while Nigerian businesses spread their tentacles all over the continent. Your loss.

***** Besides, you avoided my question. Are there Kenyan companies in Ghana, Ivory coast and other west African countries?