grandstar:


Are you on the ground and just quoting figures from your head?

I need real honest and unbiased opinions

I am on ground in Zaria the largest urban Centre in Kaduna state after the state capital and I tell you this is Buhari zone. I visited the northeast this Christmas and I didn't see a single Atiku poster even though I didn't engage in any political discussion while there

netpro:


Atiku has character flaws.

On recession, Buhari's prudence and judicious utilization of limited resources has seen us gain stability, saved up, capital development, agricultural growth, social investment, security and more.

But in the last administration, it sank so deep they borrowed to pay salary in the mist of huge e as earnings.

Don't even start with Atiku. Within weeks to hand over, they auctioned anything not nailed to the ground. Yar'Adua had to revert most of them on resumption.

Sad to say this but you're wrong on Buhari

His fact act on assumption of office was to peg the Naira to the dollar at 197. This singular action brought about severe forex shortages which starved companies of much needed foreign exchange to import goods which led to massive job losses and a severe recession

If he had just left the floating exchange rate he inherited the recession would have been completely avoided

I immediately wrote off the economy the second he pegged the exchange rate. Utomi Soludo and Sanusi all condemned the peg and the Organised Private Sector (OPS) as well. The peg was the height of economic illiteracy. This was long discarded command economic policies rearing its ugly head

Sanusi unrelenting condemnation of the peg so tiring that the presidency said they won't join matter with him. It's like telling a mathematician 1 + 1 = 3 and you expect him to play along

Buhari was far from prudent. His populism brought about the collapse of the economy.

The currency peg starved all tiers of governments at the most urgent moment!

To explain let us say the 3 tiers of government are to share $1b

At the pegged official exchange rate that is 197billion

But the parrallel market rate which is a better indicator of the true value of the currency is 280. That means the $1b is actually worth N280B and that means a loss in revenue of 83b in just one month! You say dollars are scarce but you dispose it at a very cheap rate? This senseless pegged rate of 197 continued well into the middle of 2016 when the parrallel rate was around 350!

Sanusi said that the difference between official rate and the black market should never be more than 3% that anything more simply fuels round tripping (That is buying at the official rate and selling at the black market rate) Under Buhari's watchful eye it was as high as 80%

Even now the peg still exist. The official rate is 305 while the investor's window is 360 or so. This is a gap of N55 or about 18%. Assuming $2B is to be shared monthly, that is a loss of N110B monthly

I am apolical and I don't even vote but if I was to vote in 2015, I would have voted 110% for Buhari

He means well, seems incorruptible but his lamentable understanding of economics and poor managerial skills are his Achilles heel

And for your info OBJ inherited a far bigger mess but used sound economic policies to correct things rather than borrow ideas from Mao's little red book like Buhari did

Nigerians voted for a Paul Kagame but what they got was a Julius Nyerere

These 2 are honest men but Kagame is making his country prosperous by enacting sound economic policies while Julius Nyerere ran Tanzania aground with baseless socialist policies

Osagyefo98:



Imagine question.....that was why u dropped that ur reply..


Chaiii



Everything is not about book sire.

I asked that question so you can focus on the political terrain we are discussing. Thus my earlier question for you to state why the majority of those who previously adored PMB will suddenly abandon him and why you think such majority will suddenly go for an Atiku.

Balyz:
I am on ground in Zaria the largest urban area in Kaduna state after the capital and I tell you this is Buhari zone. I visited the northeast this Christmas and I didn't see a single Atiku poster even though I didn't engage in any political discussion while there

Thanks

This has given me some idea about Bhuari's popularity and Atiku's chances

docadams:


I asked that question so you can focus on the political terrain we are discussing. Thus my earlier question for you to state why the majority of those who previously adored PMB will suddenly abandon him and why you think such majority will suddenly go for an Atiku.

OK let me grab by saying I understand.

So bring it on again.

grandstar:


Thanks

This has given me some idea about Bhuari's popularity and Atiku's chances

You don't measure chances on posters.

Secondly that guy is a liar.

Avoid him.....he lack truth.

grandstar:


Why do you say so?

Last year I met an uneducated Hausa man who told me without any prompting whatsoever that Buhari isn't coming back

A Fulani young man around 25years last year told me that Buhari has forgotten the poor now that he is in power. This was a yound man who was also saying Sai Baba!

But last year is so yesterday and people have now gotten used to the high price of things and this is the "new normal"

So why do you say Waziri is popular with people?



'M

continue to decieved yourself if that will make u happy. I am a northerner precisely Jos we know who is popular.even you your mind is telling but you are forcing yourself to ignore it. I can bet with my life that BUHARI ll beat atiku hands down

Osagyefo98:



OK let me grab by saying I understand.

So bring it on again.

The ball is in your court. You want to dethrone a king. Why and how?

docadams:


The ball is in your court. You want to dethrone a king. Why and how?

When terms that shows partisan flourishes ur post.

I will kindly bow out...

Thank u and have a nice day.

Osagyefo98:



When terms that shows partisan flourishes ur post.

I will kindly bow out...

Thank u and have a nice day.

Better for both of us!

Godblesspmb:
continue to decieved yourself if that will make u happy. I am a northerner precisely Jos we know who is popular.even you your mind is telling but you are forcing yourself to ignore it. I can bet with my life that BUHARI ll beat atiku hands down

What I said is the plain truth. This was my experience in Lagos where I reside.

Anyway this is 2018 and 2019 is just around the corner. From the few Yoruba's I've interacted with Buhari is their preferred choice especially as many see Atiku as corrupt.

Atiku has the South South and South East in his kitty

He has some states in the Middle Belt as well

He needs to win the Southwest to win the election but it looks very unlikely

Herdsmen:


Would you want to stake your finance on this your statement?

I wouldn't mind..if you so believe..

if thief atiku win one state outside SE because of liar obi, i will worship thief atiku.

buharitill2023:
if thief atiku win one state outside SE because of liar obi, i will worship thief atiku.

Atiku should easily take the South South and even Taraba

I'm just saying things as it is

The North east and North west are Buhari's from the small finding here!

Middle belt isn't fully settled but it is tilting towards Atiku due to the herdsmen issue

The swing states of the Southwest is the real battleground. Whoever wins here has won the election.

grandstar:


Atiku should easily take the South South and even Taraba

I'm just saying things as it is

The North east and North west are Buhari's from the small finding here!

Middle belt isn't fully settled but it is tilting towards Atiku due to the herdsmen issue

The swing states of the Southwest is the real battleground. Whoever wins here has won the election.

And this is a pure lie.

The voting pattern in sw has never registered strong margin right from immemorial and it won't start now...

Check statistics and clear yourself .


We and apc knows where the vote that will determine who wins will come but not SW.

grandstar:


Sad to say this but you're wrong on Buhari

His fact act on assumption of office was to peg the Naira to the dollar at 197. This singular action brought about severe forex shortages which starved companies of much needed foreign exchange to import goods which led to massive job losses and a severe recession

If he had just left the floating exchange rate he inherited the recession would have been completely avoided

I immediately wrote off the economy the second he pegged the exchange rate. Utomi Soludo and Sanusi all condemned the peg and the Organised Private Sector (OPS) as well. The peg was the height of economic illiteracy. This was long discarded command economic policies rearing its ugly head

Sanusi unrelenting condemnation of the peg so tiring that the presidency said they won't join matter with him. It's like telling a mathematician 1 + 1 = 3 and you expect him to play along

Buhari was far from prudent. His populism brought about the collapse of the economy.

The currency peg starved all tiers of governments at the most urgent moment!

To explain let us say the 3 tiers of government are to share $1b

At the pegged official exchange rate that is 197billion

But the parrallel market rate which is a better indicator of the true value of the currency is 280. That means the $1b is actually worth N280B and that means a loss in revenue of 83b in just one month! You say dollars are scarce but you dispose it at a very cheap rate? This senseless pegged rate of 197 continued well into the middle of 2016 when the parrallel rate was around 350!

Sanusi said that the difference between official rate and the black market should never be more than 3% that anything more simply fuels round tripping (That is buying at the official rate and selling at the black market rate) Under Buhari's watchful eye it was as high as 80%

Even now the peg still exist. The official rate is 305 while the investor's window is 360 or so. This is a gap of N55 or about 18%. Assuming $2B is to be shared monthly, that is a loss of N110B monthly

I am apolical and I don't even vote but if I was to vote in 2015, I would have voted 110% for Buhari

He means well, seems incorruptible but his lamentable understanding of economics and poor managerial skills are his Achilles heel

And for your info OBJ inherited a far bigger mess but used sound economic policies to correct things rather than borrow ideas from Mao's little red book like Buhari did

Nigerians voted for a Paul Kagame but what they got was a Julius Nyerere

These 2 are honest men but Kagame is making his country prosperous by enacting sound economic policies while Julius Nyerere ran Tanzania aground with baseless socialist policies

which law wil he enact under thief saraki that always want to satisfy his pocket first.
again, oil price crash to ＄28, how can economic expert who just newly resume office in less than 6month not to experience recession.
gej that was receiving ＄78 were already feeling the heat and could not pay salary for 3months,
and buhari bailout 30state that could not pay salary during gej era when oil was still selling @＄78.
buhari really tried as a good economist.
obj did bailout any state and population was less 100m.

grandstar:


What I said is the plain truth. This was my experience in Lagos where I reside.

Anyway this is 2018 and 2019 is just around the corner. From the few Yoruba's I've interacted with Buhari is their preferred choice especially as many see Atiku as corrupt.

Atiku has the South South and South East in his kitty

He has some states in the Middle Belt as well

He needs to win the Southwest to win the election but it looks very unlikely

Your analysis is flawed.

Is like the op don't know what battleground is...


Battle ground means block vote......( for u to win u must counter all block votes.....if not the outcome will be very disastrous...kano and borno state a typical example in 2015.

muykem:
Atiku will not win one state in either region. He has contested before so check his results. Buhari formed CPC overnight and contested for president in the party, check his results.

Before 2015 Buhari was perceived to be a messiah that will miraculously change Nigeria...

Now he has been given the chance to do the miracle and he failed. Naturally he wont get the level of support he got before 2015. Thats typica; of an average human being. They adore you when you are at a distance but when you come close to them they begin to observe faults and automatically the adoration reduces.

Dont expect Buhari to have higher votes than he had in 2015. Today we see some northern elders and youths condemning him. We never saw it this way in 2015.

His followership cannot be big as before.

Even Buhari and his team understands this, thats why they are making conscious effort to reach out to south east and south south.

grandstar:


Atiku should easily take the South South and even Taraba

I'm just saying things as it is

The North east and North west are Buhari's from the small finding here!

Middle belt isn't fully settled but it is tilting towards Atiku due to the herdsmen issue

The swing states of the Southwest is the real battleground. Whoever wins here has won the election.

udom, okowa, wike and ayade can never risk their hard earn corrupt money to rig election for thief atiku,
they are even thinking of how to win their second term becos federal might wil be use against them immediately buhari is declared the winner. the same goes to enugu, abia and ebonyi, they are all afraid of returning except they deliver their state for buhari.
SW is a no go area for thief atiku, no contest in SW, because SW wil retain presidency in 2023.
you are apolitical, you cant really see want we have seen.
2019 election has be concluded, wise politicians are already planning for 2023.

honourhim:


Before 2015 Buhari was perceived to be a messiah that will miraculously change Nigeria...

Now he has been given the chance to do the miracle and he failed. Naturally he wont get the level of support he got before 2015. Thats typica; of an average human being. They adore you when you are at a distance but when you come close to them they begin to observe faults and automatically the adoration reduces.

Dont expect Buhari to have higher votes than he had in 2015. Today we see some northern elders and youths condemning him. We never saw it this way in 2015.

His followership cannot be big as before.

Even Buhari and his team understands this, thats why they are making conscious effort to reach out to south east and south south.

Your right but atiku doesn't even have any followership to start with.he's leveraging on the pdp structure.he's not even as supported as goodluck was.atiku cant make it

Osagyefo98:
Is like the op don't know what battleground is...


Battle ground means block vote......( for u to win u must counter all block votes.....if not the outcome will be very disastrous...kano and borno state a typical example in 2015.

Atiku doesn't have state that can give him a million plus votes.apc has penetrated states like rivers,delta,akwa ibom etc where allocation of votes take place

grandstar:


What I said is the plain truth. This was my experience in Lagos where I reside.

Anyway this is 2018 and 2019 is just around the corner. From the few Yoruba's I've interacted with Buhari is their preferred choice especially as many see Atiku as corrupt.

Atiku has the South South and South East in his kitty

He has some states in the Middle Belt as well

He needs to win the Southwest to win the election but it looks very unlikely

Your right.looking at the past records,buhari has always won north east and west with different parties.even when anpp controlled kano and the north east in 2011 and fielded a candidate,he still won while atiku under acn didnt win any state even in the west where acn controlled.he even lost in his adamawa where buhari got more votes than him meanwhile he's not from there.buhari defeated late yaradua in Katsina who was a sitting governor.these shows massive popularity.

Now to the present if you go on all online mediums and even offline,you will notice that 75% of northerners are with buhari,60% of yorubas are with buhari while the south south seems divided.only the south east are clearly with atiku.

Truth be told, Atiku will be beaten black, and blue in the next election....

Believe me, in Northern Nigeria today, if not for the fact that Kwankwaso, and Tambuwal shot themselves in the foot, Atiku is no match for either of them, you now want to compare him to Buhari....ah....

Paretomaster1:
Truth be told, Atiku will be beaten black, and blue in the next election....

Believe me, in Northern Nigeria today, if not for the fact that Kwankwaso, and Tambuwal shot themselves in the foot, Atiku is no match for either of them, you now want to compare him to Buhari....ah....

A present LGA CHAIRMAN WILL DEFEAT ATIKU in Adamawa in an election. he s only banking on PDP structures. Atiku is a barawo according to my northern brothers.

all I know is that the northerners also are feeling the hunger in town and not spare by Bandit a.k.a reform herdsmen....Atiku is one of them reason they will try him

buharitill2023:
udom, okowa, wike and ayade can never risk their hard earn corrupt money to rig election for thief atiku,
they are even thinking of how to win their second term becos federal might wil be use against them immediately buhari is declared the winner. the same goes to enugu, abia and ebonyi, they are all afraid of returning except they deliver their state for buhari.
SW is a no go area for thief atiku, no contest in SW, because SW wil retain presidency in 2023.
you are apolitical, you cant really see want we have seen.
2019 election has be concluded, wise politicians are already planning for 2023.

Though the governors you mentioned are anti-Atiku, I doubt they can dictate the result.

Jonathan won all Southwest states except Osun state despite Tinubu and governors of those states urging them to vote for Ribadu. A repeat I believe will occur in South South.

However, buhari seems to be in the lead.

There's a bogeyman appearing and that's the new 30k minimum wage. The government can't afford it as they even borrow to pay the old rate.

Its implementation will lead to a spike in inflation and loss in Naira value which will prove detrimental.

Even the populist Buhari is refusing to cave in easily to this wage increase.

senatordave1:

Atiku doesn't have state that can give him a million plus votes.apc has penetrated states like rivers,delta,akwa ibom etc where allocation of votes take place

Stop quoting me

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