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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by Hafsat24(f): 10:51pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
TheCongo2: Apparently so many people are not getting the main point of your argument hence the continuous back and forth replies.. Well said! 8 Likes |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by Jasmine17(m): 11:22pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
sistaj: Cool. I was only concerned about you and your family's welfare. Good to know you took no offense. I will continue to pray and root for you. Gracias 2 Likes |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by czaratwork: 12:07am On Dec 31, 2018 |
Influential101: I was about to type that he has a deadly mouth abi hand. I have been laughing here. I have learnt not to be offended by his post. 2 Likes |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by Lhimeet(m): 12:12am On Dec 31, 2018 |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by cochtrane(m): 1:40am On Dec 31, 2018 |
TheCongo2: Naturally I wouldn't like to get into this argument, but I think you are getting some things wrong. I'd wager that's because of your cultural (or religious?) background, so it's almost acceptable. However, it doesn't mean that you are correct. It seems you believe that being gay is a western concept totally foreign to Africa. This isn't true. Many of those who are homosexual are innately so. They didn't chose to be that way. And this attribute cuts across race, sex and gender. It has very little to do with being white or being black and more to do with being human. Of course, you may choose to not believe this, but it doesn't make it wrong. All you need do is spend some time with those who are homosexual and you'll discover they didn't chose to be that way. If they had a choice, they'd love very much to be "normal" like everyone else. Who would love to be incessantly discriminated against!? But it wasn't a choice they could make. I know a handful of Nigerians who are gay and they didn't need to spend time in a western country to be that way. Your position would have been totally innocent, except you aren't admitting there's a twist to it. For someone like you who preaches respect, but secretly disapproves of their lifestyle, you run the risk of denying them their right to freedom of expression. Were you to vote, for instance, in Canada on a referendum that greatly affects this set of people, you may allow your imported cultural background to influence your decision. Yet you take shelter for own yourself under the same constitutional freedom offered to all. That's not exactly fair. Perhaps also, if you were in a position to maybe rent out a room to them, you may refuse to because "their actions disgust you." That's even discriminatory. Yet, in the same vein you'll find it untenable that a white house owner would deny an immigrant black family an apartment because he doesn't want them around him. I agree with you that there are aspects of Nigerian (or African) culture that are good and that we all must preserve or introduce to our new society. Some are strong enough to render change and in fact improve conditions in our new environment. But I strongly disagree that labeling homosexuality disgusting is one of these. That's no more because homosexuality is simply not one man's culture than it is because it is actually disgusting. For all I know, if thoughts were not as stifled in Nigeria as it is, many of my homosexual friends would speak up. 22 Likes |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by mikkyphp(m): 2:04am On Dec 31, 2018 |
czaratwork:My landlord did this. Please tell me more 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by czaratwork: 2:11am On Dec 31, 2018 |
mikkyphp: Please tax experts what are the implications of not reporting your rent as expenses in your tax returns? Is there any on the tenant? I mean can the law catch up with you? I know for landlords, it is tax evasion and it is a crime but i dont know the full implications on tenants. Urgent response is appreciated. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by imnotconfused: 2:11am On Dec 31, 2018 |
sistaj: You've said it all,BRAVO!! Best of luck madam! 11 Likes |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by Nobody: 2:13am On Dec 31, 2018 |
Homguy: Now you're going off track. Only TheCongo2 can answer your questions now. Good luck Sir. |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by phf2be: 2:42am On Dec 31, 2018 |
sistaj: Sister J, just hang in there. It'll pan out but you need to change your strategy. You may not succeed with real estate agents/agencies because they don't have the capacity to grant waivers since they don't own the properties; kijiji is your best bet. There you can relate with home owners directly and hopefully find a compassionate landlord. My experience (Maybe it will help someone): I was fortunate to have a friend take us in when we arrived. We wanted to live in Mississauga long before we left Nigeria and we were so sure we'd be at my friend's for 2 weeks max! After 4 weeks of inconveniencing my kind friend and his family because we couldn't find a place of our own, and hanging as though we still hadn't landed in Canada, we started concentrating solely on Kijiji adverts that were put up directly by the home owners themselves. Note that most agents in the GTA won't even approve you for viewing unless you meet the requirements, which includes a job letter. I had many friends including our host who were willing to co-sign the forms but that option still didn't fly. In the 5th week, help came from the most unlikely of places (at this point, we had long given up our Mississauga fantasy and settled for "anywhere" ![]() I'm sorry if post is long. Just remember Kijiji! 42 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by umazigy: 2:43am On Dec 31, 2018 |
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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by sunky644(m): 3:09am On Dec 31, 2018 |
Tojued:Are you a Ladokite? My person, transcripts thing na hell for LAUTECH oo, my wife's Masters transcript is yet to be sent since April 2018. Unfortunately we still have to apply for our undergraduate transcripts from same school for eca evaluation. Pls if you know any fastrack means kindly let me know pls. Thanks |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by toboy: 3:39am On Dec 31, 2018 |
cochtrane:Thank you so much for this input. It is important that people understand that their personal biases and ignorance, or "choices" about certain issue is not an excuse because they do have real-life consequence on other human beings. I really like the example with a white landlord. I have had something similar. I had a conversation with a white person who says they respect black people but then he finds black people are "dirty, primitive, and violent people". To unpack this racial stereotype, I told him I understand why he might feel that way due to the socialization and misrepresentation of black people in North America. But then, we have come along way; beginning from the era of slave trade and colonisation till now, we have been able to understand that all humans, including black people can be clean, smart and law abiding if they had equal opportunity to thrive. And for that, such false ideology about black people is entirely incorrect and unacceptable. Even though this person feel he respects black, his bias can influence his judgement during referendum, voting, job hiring, policing, etc. that affects black people . The same analogy can be applied to homosexuality. Oppression against homosexuality has always been based off religion(which was imposed on us Africans a form of cultural hegemony by our colonial masters, in the first place). Let us begin by humbling our ignorance. Homosexuality exist in all culture. When two consenting adults finds love in themselves, it is NOT in your opinion or right as a straight man to approve or disapprove their relationship, just as the same way a typical queer person would not judge straight relationship by saying "they respect straight men, but don't approve men being intimate with women". This is the way racism and many other form of unwarranted oppression functions. It beings when some group or society thinking their cultural norms or religious bleif is the best for everyone else and therefore that everyone follow it. How are you going to convince a white supremacist about racial oppression when you as a black person think you have the right or personal choice by convincing yourself to think of another person as evil because of their sexuality. Mais quel putain de merde! 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by sistaj: 4:12am On Dec 31, 2018 |
phf2be:Thank you so much for your tip. |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by bily(m): 4:42am On Dec 31, 2018 |
toboy: Everyone will always have a bias about one thing or the other in this life. Disapproving of an act does not necessarily mean you disapprove of the person. Why are we trying so hard to make them one and the same ![]() The best example of tolerance is what you see in the workplace environment. You don't even necessarily have to like someone to work with them in achieving set goals, you just need to respect them as humans and what they are bringing to the table. Anyways, to each its own, there are things you just laugh about and move on. Like I said, there's hypocrisy everywhere if you look closely. Just live and let live. 14 Likes |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by Godbpraised: 4:54am On Dec 31, 2018 |
TheCongo2: 1 Like |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by Godbpraised: 5:03am On Dec 31, 2018 |
Well said boss, most importantly i think we need to teach and train our kids the African culture, i am not sure i would want my kids growing up to be gay or homo, i also think that taking our kids back to visit home( Nigeria) once in a while is very important, i am so scared that if care is not taken the western agenda to dominate the world economy and culture would eliminate our culture. I see another colonialism again. I do not have an issue with any one being gay or homo, its a choice. But i fear that some thing interesting than people just being trans-gender would happen soon, may be we would see situations humans beings wanting to be dogs or cat or even rats, all in the name of being free or individualistic. Good luck to people who choose to be whatever they want to be asides from what nature has made them to be. ![]() 15 Likes |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by SixSigma1(m): 6:16am On Dec 31, 2018 |
Ibadanboy2015: @Ibadanboy2015 Just like many people have told you already, to avoid losing even your own permanent residency status in Canada you have to move back to the province of Manitoba which was the province that nominated you with certain conditions that must be met (one of which is staying in that province for a specific duration of time). In fact, not only do you have to move back, you actually have to move back right away because the more you delay it the more it becomes difficult for you to clear yourself when (not if) they eventually know and come after you (like the Jamaican guy in the news recently). The issue here is not if they will find out that you moved out but when they will find out. I can tell you with high degree of certainty that they will find out after you file your 2018 tax by April of 2019 (they just may not come after you). Even if you do not file your tax (because you do not have to file if you are not owing or do not meet some other conditions available on CRA website), your employer will still send T4 to CRA that shows Nova Scotia as your province of employment. While there is nothing wrong from tax perspective in working in one province and living in another, don't think of using that to justify or claim to the government of Manitoba that you have been living in Manitoba while working in Nova Scotia because as you and I know this is not feasible considering how far these provinces are apart. By the way, apart from knowing through tax filing, there are others ways available for them to know. Tax filing is just one way for them to know. They may even already know by now but decided not to come after you yet. All in all, the little time you need to live in Manitoba without a decent job is not worth the risk of losing your PR in my view. 19 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by SixSigma1(m): 6:18am On Dec 31, 2018 |
umazigy: Good job with this announcement @umazigy. I have replied the message you sent to me. |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by TheCongo2: 6:39am On Dec 31, 2018 |
toboy: There we go again... In 2018, most if not all white in North America will be extremely careful to say this to a black person, very afraid indeed . Usually white people in North America walk on eggshells when interacting with black people. But for a white person to summon the courage to tell you what you have wrote, that tells me a lot about you. You must be an extreme pushover and he took advantage of that. He took you for a dumb or someone anyone can offend with no fear of repreasal. Are you the type of black who says things to please the white master? He may have sensed that you have an extreme low self esteem toward white people. You even told him you understood him. Com'on now! Someone once told me that the bullies have the eyes to see who to mess with and who not to mess with. Personally, just as the majority of black people, no white will ever tell me this poo in my face. I am so surprised that in Canada a white person can say this to a black person. Yes, we have racism in Canada but it never blatant. It is rather subtle. And this is the rubbish you come to post on Nairaland (a mostly black forum). Some black will go to the extend of selling their family and culture in the name of what the white man had said. 22 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by Tojued: 6:49am On Dec 31, 2018 |
sunky644: Been on it since July or August. No discernible progress. |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by vcole: 8:00am On Dec 31, 2018 |
I think you really did go overboard here with this response. How do you make such assumptions laced with insults from a reply to a post on an online thread? C’mon. We really do need to learn to have productive conversations and embrace divergent views on issues. @toboy did not deserve this response. TheCongo2: 14 Likes |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by TheCongo2: 8:11am On Dec 31, 2018 |
vcole: Sorry if my post had offended you. I thought toboy would understand my frustration the same way he understood that white man frustration about black people. But if he doesn't understand me but was able to understand the white man, then we have a serious issue. 32 Likes |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by maternal: 8:11am On Dec 31, 2018 |
SixSigma1: This guy, I intentionally didn't go into detail because I know he isn't taking me seriously. His SIN number is his DNA and you use it for almost everything here. He doesn't know from the moment he got his visa in Africa, the day he landed in Canada, till today, everything is recorded in this country. His ROE (record of employment), change of healthcard, change of drivers license, etc, in the new province, will further prove he has violated his PNP conditions along with the other things you said. The jamo guy in the article thought he was smart like this ewu. Probably thought this government was foolish like his wat gwaan bombaclot jamaican government back home. See how he started to cry when he originally got an order of deportation. He thought about waking up beside those chickens as well. NEVER mess with the government here. NEVER. Anyone who lives here knows it. I fear God then the federal government. Only 2 things in life that scares me. Lastly i know a Ghana girl who was on EI (employment insurance) while being unemployed. The conditions was you must stay in Canada the whole time looking for a job. She went to Ghana to party. When she returned to Canada her benefits was cut off. She was asked to repay back the money paid to her along with a 20k fine or so with interests. If she failed to comply the government was going to charge her with fraud and prosecute her. An arrest warrant would have occurred after her unsuccessful appeal. Shes paying back that fine till today. And she's illegible for EI ever again. 14 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by maternal: 8:18am On Dec 31, 2018 |
vcole: Congo is Right. If someone said that to toboy in his face, the man is a joke to them. The prime minister can't say that to my face even off camera. He'd be too scared. White canadians are very covert with their racism. Their specialty is smiling and stabbing you in the back without you knowing it. Them letting you know They re racists gives us a strategic advantage to be able to defend ourselves. They don't like that. If a white man said that to my face I'm either taking my employer to court, or he gets punched in the face if there's no witnesses around. But They re not walking away without some sort of consequence. 24 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by toboy: 8:19am On Dec 31, 2018 |
TheCongo2:He! he! Your type will not do well at all in global affairs! Your high estimation of yourself and your incoherent analogy of ideas is quite mediocre. And you wonder why up till today, many white people still internalise some of dumbest racial stereotypes and bias about other race. Racism is a vicious system that was instituted by decades of colonization and cultural hegemony. Such vicious cycle works best when people internalize bias because it is in the nature of racism to blind people, especially white people, about systemic oppression. If people around you don't trust you enough to confine in you then that is your own personal problem, not mine. Can we even be a bit clearer on this culture you blabbing. Sell their culture. "which culture" is being sold here? 7 Likes |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by TheCongo2: 8:25am On Dec 31, 2018 |
maternal: Thanks bro. I am still wondering how a white man can say this to a black person in 2018 in Canada. People had lost their careers because of allegations of racism even made in private. But here we have a brother who is even proud to proclaim on Nairaland that a white man had opened up himself to him by calling black people primitive being 10 Likes |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by toboy: 8:29am On Dec 31, 2018 |
maternal:Black people been punching since time immemorial and last time I checked, Black folks has the highest number of incarceration in US for instance. If we gonna win a war against racism. it wont be by throwing punches at ignorant white people. We need an investment into a calculated steps and strategy than can enable black folks break the system that feeds racists. 8 Likes |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by toboy: 8:32am On Dec 31, 2018 |
TheCongo2:You have been spending alot to time in a formal work environments where most white people are sharks in white gloves. 4 Likes |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by maternal: 8:44am On Dec 31, 2018 |
toboy: Honestly I think your story is BS. That could even be considered an hate crime if a white person said that in public. I'm calling this a lie the more I think about it. Such foul language is literally a crime especially against minorities. 12 Likes |
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by TheCongo2: 8:50am On Dec 31, 2018 |
maternal: I was thinking about that as well, this story doesn't sound right. This doesn't sound like the Canada I know. It is very unlikely for a white Canadian to tell a black person that he thinks black people are primitive beings. In Canada, white people walk on eggshells when interacting with black. White people are afraid to offend black people. 6 Likes |
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