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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 7:22pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
Tolulopefinest: Bros leave that guy ,thank God you are seeing from my point of view He said I called Moses a world class player, Moses is not a full right back so he can't make Chelsea and he is not a better winger than Pedro Willian and hazard ,I spoke simple fact and he said I am overating Moses I am not even a fan of Moses ,people on this thread can testify |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 7:34pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
andrew444:As a wing-back Moses is one of the best in the premier league but as a winger he is not close to any leicester or Arsenal winger. Even Musa failed to cut it with Leicester. Prior to the WC against European opponents, Moses struggled both as a winger and as a false 9. We may have lost the friendly against Argentina with Moses present. We defeated Iceland because we opted for Nacho and Musa upfront. V.Moses didn't make any impact against England and Croatia because he played as a winger. V.Moses is only good as a winger against african opposition. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:39pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
What is this guy yapping? I believe Iwobi has played as CM in a couple occasions under Wenger. What’s your take on this piece? Arsenal: Georginio Wijnaldum the perfect transition for Alex Iwobi by Andrew Dowdeswell20h ago Georginio Wijnaldum was the best player on the pitch as Liverpool dismantled Arsenal 5-1 on Saturday. His midfield transition would be ideal for Alex Iwobi. Alex Iwobi was one of Arsenal’s brightest players in Saturday’s humiliating 5-1 defeat to Liverpool. That is a far more praise-enthused sentence than its actual meaning. In reality, hardly any Arsenal players played even remotely brightly. For Iwobi to be the brightest is not to say very much whatsoever. Nevertheless, after some rather underwhelming performances following a strong to the season, it was nice to see the Nigerian play with the same energy, directness and attacking purposefulness that punctuated his play earlier in the year and as a fearful youth prospect. Iwobi started on the left wing. That has predominantly the position that he has most commonly been used in throughout his career, especially since Unai Emery’s arrival in the summer. And he does bring some key skills that are useful in that role. He is a good dribbler, has decent pace, is an intelligent and creative player in the final third, and is improving in his end product. That said, his lack of goals and assists, especially the former, does limit his value and efficacy when playing so high up the pitch. In the modern game, wingers and attacking midfielders are expected to contribute to the attacking returns of the team. In fact, it is often the case that wingers are the team’s leading scorers — Eden Hazard, Mohamed Salah, Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo. Iwobi, though, will never really be that kind of player. He simply does not have the quality or striking mentality. The same was said about Liverpool central midfielder Georginio Wijnaldum. He was an attacking midfielder and winger built very much in a similar mould to that of Iwobi. Skilful, smart on the ball, athletic and intelligent, but lacking in the number of goals that he created and scored. And so, Jurgen Klopp, when Wijnaldum arrived at Anfield from Newcastle United, decided to change his position. Now, two years later, Wijnaldum is one of the best central midfielders in the country, a dominating force with terrific range, composure, consistency and power. This slightly deeper starting position accentuates what Wijnaldum can do well and limits what he does not so well. And those pros and cons are comparable to Iwobi’s — for the record, I have long spoken of Iwobi’s potential in central midfield. It took Wijnaldum time to adapt to the new role. There were some defensive vulnerabilities, with his positioning sometimes exposed on the counter-attack. But as he grew into the position and became more acclimated with his responsibilities, such was the complementary nature of his physical and technical skills that he took to it superbly. The modern game demands a mobile a central midfielder with comfort and composure on the ball. Wijnaldum, and Iwobi, offer precisely that. Whether Iwobi will every try central midfield or not remains to be seen. I cannot remember a time that he has played in midfield, but it is something that I would like to see. Hopefully Emery will give him a chance to do so sometime soon. —FANSIDED 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 7:42pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
EEGA: Agreed with some of what you said But Moses shine as a winger on the Epl at Wigan ? You are quick to forget that Bros as far as wingers are concerned Moses is a better player than Maddison Musa didn't failed at Leicester musa wasn't in Craig Shakespeare plans ,musa played 21 games in the Epl under ranieri and scored 2 goals which is not bad for a winger You said victor moses is only good as a winger against African opposition,I guess he was playing for lobi stars in the caf champions league when Chelsea scouted him ? You are so funny Chelsea bought a player from relegated threatened Wigan sha a lot Why bringing the Iceland game here ? What did nacho played on the Iceland game ? Smh for you 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 7:56pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
andrew444:Madison is more creative than Moses.They don't play the same position while one is an AM, the other is a WB. 2 goals in 21 games is poor if he doesn't have up to 8 assists. Players metarmophose with time.Moses was good as a winger then but not now. Moses can't get playing time as a winger for 6 straight game for any of the top 8 EPL team. Why do you think we played Mikel as 4 and Moses as RWB when we needed a win against Iceland? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 8:05pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
EEGA: Its musa that played 21 games and score 2 goals and not Moses Maddison has played from the flank this season for more than 5 times How do you know Moses is no more good as a winger ? It's been long he played there so you can't know or are you God ? The last time I checked Richarlison of Everton played 38 Epl games last season as a winger and scored only 5 goals and end up getting a move to Everton at 40million is that not also poor ? If musa play 38 games you Think he won't get more than 5 goals ? If you are suggesting on something bring proove The last time I check world class hazard according to Chelsea fans haven't score 20goals a season and some dumb Chelsea fans says he is better than Neymar seems it's all about goals and assists |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:09pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
Why there's hope for 2019, Aluko's final chance and fans' renewed belief - Reading FC talking points Further analysis of the 0-0 draw with QPR on Saturday BY JONATHAN LOW 11:45, 30 DEC 2018UPDATED09:51, 31 DEC 2018 JONATHAN LOW REFLECTS ON QPR 0 READING 0 Reading ended 2018 with a goalless draw with QPR at Loftus Road on Saturday afternoon. It was an improved showing from Royals following their 1-0 loss to Millwall just three days earlier on Boxing Day. Jose Gomes' side had several good chances to win the game, although they had Anssi Jaakkola to thank for some superb stops in the second period as Rangers fought their way back into the game. The result sees Reading remain in 23rd place in the Championship table and two points from safety, although there were plenty of encouraging signs in the performance. Here are the main talking points. Why there's hope for 2019 A draw is never the best result but it's far better than a defeat and here for Reading, it represents small progress. They will be delighted with the clean sheet - just the third in the league this season and the way they passed the ball around and controlled the game - certainly in the first half - should help them pick up some positive results. There were a few shaky moments in defence, but between both boxes Royals could not be faulted. It has given fans, the players and the manager belief and confidence they can win the relegation fight that is ahead of them. Aluko's final chance Midfielder Sone Aluko was handed a surprise recall to the side and played in a central role behind lone frontman Yakou Meite. The former Fulham man has flattered to deceive since joining the club in 2017, with both Jaap Stam and Paul Clement being unable to get the best out of him. The 29-year-old put in a decent performance though in west London and showed some lovely touches to get away from players in the midfield. As has been often the case, Aluko tends to do the hard work before slipping up with the simple pass when he does get time and space to distribute the ball. Whether the change in position from winger to central midfielder improves his performance remains to be seen, but if Gomes can get the best out of him then Reading could have some player on their hands. In truth, it's the final chance for Aluko to prove himself in a Reading shirt. Fans' renewed belief More than 1,600 Reading fans made the trip to the capital and certainly made their voices heard throughout the 90 minutes. The players gave them something to shout about which always helps, but they really urged the side on and tried to suck the ball into the net in the second half. And there was a nice moment at full time when all the players and manager went over to applaud the fans, who packed out the top tier of the away end. The chant of 'we are staying up' from the supporters showed the performance has given them some renewed belief for the rest of the season and the battle against the drop. O'Shea's solidity It was no coincidence Reading kept a clean sheet with John O'Shea back in the side. The Irishman may be 37, but he rolled back the years with a vintage performance to help Royals secure a precious point. Reading FC manager Jose Gomes: 'We lost two points at QPR' O'Shea was brilliant in the air and time after time cleared the ball away from danger, while he also helped those around him by issuing instructions and advice as much as possible. His experience could well be key in the coming months and although he is unlikely to play week after week, getting the best out of him on and off the field should help the defence which has been shaky at best this season. Bodvarsson needs a chance Scoring goals remains an issue for Reading with just three scored in the past eight matches. Meite was given the nod at QPR and had a header well saved, but apart from that was largely ineffective. Jon Dadi Bodvarsson came on but did not have enough time to make a contribution. However, the Icelander deserves a run of games in the side now. He remains the club's joint top scorer with seven goals and is someone who is capable of getting on the end of crosses into the box. He has not played much recently so will be fresh and no doubt eager to impress Gomes so expect him to feature against Swansea City on New Year's Day. —football.london |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 8:43pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
Joebie: Dude you had to condemn a whole write because of one assumption |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 8:43pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
Joebie: Dude you had to condemn a whole write because of one assumption |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 8:55pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
andrew444:Am aware you are talking of Musa not Moses. Moses was anonymous against England, made no impact against Czech, was poor against Croatia. I will start Chukwueze ahead of both Moses and Kalu any time, any day. We would have progressed from the group stages if we started with a 3-5-2 with Ebuehi and Moses as RWB and LWB respectively. Hazard is not only world-class but a game changer.In their first 2 matches this season he came off from the bench to provide an assist in each of the match which earned him the RW. Football is all about end-product. How many assists did Richarlison have last season? You only talk of goals. Samuel Kalu is now competing with Chukwueze for the RW.Do you think he will be able to keep Chukwueze or Onyekuru on the bench for a long time? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:01pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
That’s your own assumption. I only gave an opinion on the one statement he made. Clearly the writer wasn’t too sure Iwobi had not played in the CM position before. Earthquake1: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel7(m): 9:05pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
Joebie: Whoever wrote this piece should contact me for a plate of spicy nkwobi and cold fresh palm wine. Flesh and blood has not revealed this to wisdom him. In all truth, Iwobi is NOT a natural attacker. Apart from a few moments in which he shows flashes of attacking brilliance, the dude is generally damn average attack-wise. He is always largely unwilling to take shots and even when he does, shots lack power and conviction, he hardly makes headers, speed is average, loses the ball a bit too easily etc. I think a switch to the midfield would do him a lot of good. But I have my doubts about how that would turn out too. Iwobi lacks quite a few traits which are necessary to a midfielder, whether CM or AM. His defensive positioning is suspect, he loses physical duels rather easily, etc. Iwobi is slowly becoming another Nacho with no natural position. Jack of all wings and master of none. Hmm. Tufiakwa. God forbid bad thing! 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by robosky02(m): 9:34pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
Danielnino00: Let's go there 2 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by InSanety: 9:50pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
Tolulopefinest:conprehension seems to be a problem here. I did not say he isn't good, I am saying he isn't as good as Andrew and some of you here like to believe. And honestly, David Luiz isn't that great either. He's decent at best, I wouldn't think of him when I want to list the best defenders in Europe. So, if he is the basis upon which you choose to make your comparison, then, it validates my opinion more than tarnishes it. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Luckyroro(m): 10:16pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
Really Iwobi needs to check it, he is fast becoming replaceable and that's too bad for a player of his calibre |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 10:29pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
EEGA: Musa was not giving enough opportunities in Leicester. But I must also add that he was poor and was duly criticised even on this thread |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 10:31pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
Curtisaxel7: Oga, iwobi has already become nacho. Compare their stats make you see. Our National team will fail at AFCON if these gys keep on like this 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 10:35pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
Earthquake1: Onyekuru,.......another overhyped player on this thread. Nothing wey we no hear about onyekuru. Lolllll Now, we see whats up |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:39pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
Solanke to Crystal Palace looks certain |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 10:39pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
InSanety: Its sad what happened to moses but I for saw it coming. Moses had nothing to offer last season but I necessary runs up and down with bad passing and poor end product.. Crossing (Zero), scoring (2/10), passing 1.4/10. Now a coach comes and prefers excellent wingers to wf backs and the guy falls out of favor. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 10:42pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
Meliforme: A match rusty moses will require at least half a season to get back to his initial averageness. May God help the dude. If not, he'll be signing for Tranmere 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:20pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
darkelf: You really do not know what you are talking about. Moses has been a stand out player for club and country over a number of years consistently. And all.of a sudden he is now rubbish according to you. IMO we dont have anybody currently in his position that's better than him. If he wants he will be in another EPL club in this transfer window. Something l can assure you very few Nigerian players can achieve. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:31pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
Joebie: This is a player quite a few have called a " Wasteman " completely undeserved. But in misguided response to my last season tag l placed on Isaac Success as a Wasteman. So a player who has done very little at Liverpool with limited opportunity and world class players ahead of him. Is being considered a good option by a EPL club, l wonder why. Which means that he can not be so bad after all ot some will say because he is English. I will not be suprised one bit if Tega joins him there or lends up at another EPL club. This January window is going to be interesting. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 11:41pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
komekn: So you are blabbing because of a prediction, he hasn't even made the move yet And you are comparing him to Isaac Success who is a regular in the Watford team, don't carry this into new year 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 11:56pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
komekn: ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 12:17am On Jan 01, 2019 |
darkelf: Thank you for telling them bro The Epl fan boys always jump to label a player flop |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 12:18am On Jan 01, 2019 |
komekn: Tell them sir komekn 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:20am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Happy 2019 to all my beautiful people. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:35am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Happy New year to you all and may the Blessings of God abide with you this year. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel7(m): 1:19am On Jan 01, 2019 |
darkelf: If you watched Moses playing as a winger in Chelsea's preseason matches, you will just be shaking your head. Maybe his stint as a wingback or a drop in passion and hardworking on his part is to blame but....the dude is now washed up completely as a winger. To get past a defender with the ball still at his feet na wahala. Either Moses falls down looking for a non existent foul or he simply loses the ball. I knew there and then that Sarri would rather start a game with ten men than start Moses in his matchday squad. The fact is, I don't see Moses cutting it in any top league as a winger anymore. The dude has simply lost it. I actually think Moses did us a big favour by retiring. If he was still with us, Rohr will be forced to play him, even with his horrible form, ahead of the likes of Kalu, Onyekuru and Chukwueze because "he is better experienced". And our team would've been worse off for it. Thank you Vicmo. Just go and join brother Ighalo in Chinko land and chop your pension money in peace. You don try. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Princezibk: 1:22am On Jan 01, 2019 |
First time you are making sense to me komekn: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel7(m): 1:23am On Jan 01, 2019 |
darkelf: We tend to overlook Iwobi's shortcomings more than Nacho's. Maybe because Iwobi is FB, maybe because he is Okocha's cousin, maybe because he is supposed to be the team's "poster boy". But to be brutally honest with ourselves, dude is quite average too. It's horrifying really. |
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