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Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Kolping: 1:46am On Jan 01, 2019
2 Peter 2:3

King James Version
"And through covetousness shall they (false prophets/false teachers) with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not."

New Living Translation
"In their greed they (false prophets/false teachers) will make up clever lies to get hold of your money. But God condemned them long ago, and their destruction will not be delayed."

babeosisi:
If you are one of those that foolishly give your January salary to your pastor, you have been sold a lie.
It is the invention of commercial pastors about a decade ago.

The Bible has no such teachings
You celebrate the birth of the savior December 25th and yet believe he needs your money to bless you.
That money is to satisfy your greedy pastor and has nothing to do with Christ.

Stop being pawns in the hands of these greedy men of mammon.

I dare anyone to show me where anyone surrendered their first salary to anyone in the Bible? You won't find it because it doesn't exist.

Don't let people twist an old testament practice that has nothing to do with bringing money and make you act foolishly.

If you don't know what to do with your salary,go give it to your mother.

Don't be a mumu

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Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Nosaghae(m): 1:47am On Jan 01, 2019
babeosisi:


Show me a single scripture where people were commanded to give and gave their first month salary ?
One scripture only
Not your pastor''s words ,produce it from the bible
You don't tap onto anything,you have the same direct access to God as your MOG and he has given you all things freely the bible says

Proverbs 3:9
Honor the LORD from your wealth And from the first of all your produce;

Exodus 34:26
"You shall bring the very first of the first fruits of your soil into the house of the LORD your God. "You shall not boil a young goat in its mother's milk."
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Nobody: 1:47am On Jan 01, 2019
macello4:
am not pastor.

Then package ur January Salary n pay it into ur pastors account n upload proof here so that we can take u serious
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Nobody: 1:49am On Jan 01, 2019
PrecisionFx:


Have u ever paid 50% of ur salary to ur pastor?

Yes to the church as offerings, group commitments and special needs in the Church. Calculate offering of 8 services in a month and other seeds sown in a month and tithe. People focus only on tithe, offerings and other seeds alone outweigh tithe.
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Goshen360(m): 1:50am On Jan 01, 2019
alBHAGDADI:


Stop quoting scriptures out of context. The verses you are referring to are seen below and they are speak of Jesus being their first of those who will rise from the dead at the resurrection. The passage in no way speaks of the living and giving offering to God.

1 Corinthians 15:20
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

You that knows the scripture and know how to quote it in context....please show us or quote JUST ONE SCRIPTURE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT THAT CHRISTIAN WAS TAUGHT FIRST FRUIT
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Emary(f): 1:51am On Jan 01, 2019
SonsOfLiverpool:
why quoting exodus sef, I thought that was old testament? There are some horrible stuff in that book should we also follow that?

Christ is the reason for Christianity and he never collected anything or asked anyone to pay. So why should Christians pay?

The reason I quoted it was so those who claim it is biblical would at least verify how the practice was carried out, not that I support it at all. I believe if one is capable of giving, one can give even above 50% of one's annual earnings if one feels led to. What I don't accept is mandated giving where some churches even refuse to marry couples without evidences of payment. Christ has already paid the price.

The new testament practice by the Apostles was one of voluntary sharing where everyone sold what they had and it was used to serve everyone's needs so that no member was in lack (Acts 4: 32 - 35).

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Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by SonsOfLiverpool(m): 1:52am On Jan 01, 2019
Nosaghae:


Proverbs 3:9
Honor the LORD from your wealth And from the first of all your produce;

Exodus 34:26
"You shall bring the very first of the first fruits of your soil into the house of the LORD your God. "You shall not boil a young goat in its mother's milk."
Old testament? Hahahahahaha there's a part in old testament where we are asked to stone adulterous women to death, should we follow that too?

Show us where Jesus or his disciples preached or collect first fruit or even tithe, stop quoting Jewish practice.

We are Christians not Jews.

Thief

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Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by TruthHurts100: 1:55am On Jan 01, 2019
Pachesky:
I'm not surprised about the comments ive read here, many people have turned to bible scholars over night and believe they have become wiser without even studying the bible in fulfilment of the scriptures of the last days are men would be lovers of their own soul and not the word..

If you have no idea about first fruits just keep quiet and let those who know its importance carry on with it.
Ill pick a worldly example. Taxes are required of every working class citizen by law. Just because the government of your country missues tax payers money meant for infrastructural developments doesn't make taxes illegal..whether you pay or not doesnt render tax paying a scam or a lie..
And when the hour comes those who failed to pay when caught would be handed their appropriate judgement depending on their level of default..

Thats how first fruits, tithes, offerings and free will giving and other requirements of God would be judged too..if you like pay or not when the hour comes we would all know who has been wise and who has been foolish..

There are fake pastors everywhere but I pray that God would not let the actions of these wolves in sheep clothings who have made many christian backslide continue to turn the hearts of others cold.

Bible scriptures supporting first fruit
Proberbs 3:9-10
Leviticus 23:10
Exodus 23:19
The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring into the house of the LORD thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother’s milk.

First of the firstfruits, the best of your harvests, not everything. Ole.

Deuteronomy 18:4

The firstfruit also of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the first of the fleece of thy sheep, shalt thou give him.
People make unar read unar Bible oooo. These people know you don't read, that's why they have been scamming you left, right and center.

Olodo, thief......

Firstfruit is not money exactly. Firstfruit means the best of your produce or income which you give willingly. The Bible never mentions January salary.

Did you know that Jesus Christ was also referred to as a firstfruit in the Bible?
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Emary(f): 1:55am On Jan 01, 2019
Avater0147:
Your father is a scam, your dead mother is a scam. Animal like you, if e no work for you, e mean say e no dey work for me, idiot. you stupid cow, main while a foreigner is the one ruling your useless country, how many scam have you called him?? fool, no go mind your business, all of una go die this year if una no leave pastors issue out of una matter. goat, i wish you can see this, and may thunder strike any idiots that reply me rubbish here. fools

And this is Christianity?
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by SonsOfLiverpool(m): 1:56am On Jan 01, 2019
TruthHurts100:


Olodo, thief......

Firstfruit is not money exactly. Firstfruit means the best of your produce or income which you give willingly. The Bible never mentions January salary.

Did you know that Jesus Christ was also referred to as a firstfruit in the Bible?
Christ na first fruit again? grin grin grin

Baba don confuse everybody, both believes and unbelievers grin grin grin grin
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Onyi22(f): 1:56am On Jan 01, 2019
This post will not stop me from redeeming my first fruit in this year 2019, I must give it out, so help me God
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Antichristus: 1:56am On Jan 01, 2019
alBHAGDADI:


Most people don't know that it is antichrists and satanic agents that are advising against firstfruits. They don't want you to obey your father the Almighty. Look at the Monika of the one I quoted. Tell me if an Antichrist will advise you to stop paying firstfruits if truly paying it is a wrong thing to do. No, he will advise you to continue doing the wrong thing. But here he knows paying it is right, that's why he and his likes are advising you against it.


THIS IS ONE OF THEM. HE CANT REFERENCE A SINGLE QUOTE TO BACK UP THIS STUPID IDEA OF PAYING JANUARY SALARY TO THE PASTIR. INSTEAD, HE RESORTS TO ARGUMENTATUM AD HOMINEM. WAKE UP, THIS IS 2019. EVEN THE JEWISH PEOPLE TO WHOM THAT OT TEXT WAS DIR3CTED NO LONGER GIVE FIRST FRUITS TODAY.

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Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Nobody: 1:57am On Jan 01, 2019
babaolofin:


Yes to the church as offerings, group comments and special needs in the Church. Calculate offering of 8 services in a month and other seeds sown in a month and tithe. People focus only on tithe, offerings and other seeds alone outweigh tithe.


Lmfao.

Calculate it ur self let's see how it comes down to 50%.
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Onyi22(f): 1:57am On Jan 01, 2019
Emary:


And this is Christianity?
Yes nah
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Goshen360(m): 1:58am On Jan 01, 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbzYQSK9hvI

First fruit IS A MODERN DAY RELIGIOUS SCAM

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Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by TruthHurts100: 1:58am On Jan 01, 2019
macello4:
now i know u are sick. Why are u so in pain becos of first fruit? Is it ur money? No one can speak for GOD not even u, u are too junior.

Shut up, Ole.
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by nedubest(m): 2:00am On Jan 01, 2019
plEase pay it into my account or patronise me, God will bless you
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by mids(m): 2:01am On Jan 01, 2019
Is your scam?

As 4 me i love first fruit scam

"O Lord scam me"


OP u beta use fitter 4 ur brain 2 remove sum dirrrty
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by macello4(m): 2:05am On Jan 01, 2019
TruthHurts100:


Shut up, Ole.
very body is our mate on dis forum. I will not pray d prayer on my mind for u for d sake of ur parent. Put pls be careful with ur comment am not ole and i will never be ok.
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Rhodababy123: 2:05am On Jan 01, 2019
Is it not too early for this type of news.... Attacking a popular practice in the Christian faith. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 2:05am On Jan 01, 2019
Goshen360:


You that knows the scripture and know how to quote it in context....please show us or quote JUST ONE SCRIPTURE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT THAT CHRISTIAN WAS TAUGHT FIRST FRUIT

You think Christianity is only about the new Testament? No wonder your kind are always quick to throw away the old testament as if it's no longer God's word. See what the book of Proverbs which is not a law of Moses said to we children of God about firstfruits.

Proverbs 3:9
9 Honour the LORD with thy substance, and with the
firstfruits of all thine increase:

If you say we shouldn't obey the above verse because it is on the old testament, then what you are saying is that we should also disobey God and our parents because the same book advises on that too.

Proverbs 1:1-9
1 The proverbs of Solomon the son of David, king of Israel;

2 To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding;

3 To receive the instruction of wisdom, justice, and judgment, and equity;

4 To give subtilty to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion.

5 A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:

6 To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.

7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

8 My son, hear the instruction of thy father, and forsake not the law of thy mother:

9 For they shall be an ornament of grace unto thy head, and chains about thy neck
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by TruthHurts100: 2:06am On Jan 01, 2019
SonsOfLiverpool:
Christ na first fruit again? grin grin grin

Baba don confuse everybody, both believes and unbelievers grin grin grin grin

1 Corinthians 15:20

But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

You've been a mumu for too long. If you don't know, you shut up. Ode!

James 1:18
Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. Firstfruits best of God's creation. Wake up.
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by SonsOfLiverpool(m): 2:07am On Jan 01, 2019
Onyi22:
This post will not stop me from redeeming my first fruit in this year 2019, I must give it out, so help me God
Mumuism is allowed, God blesses me and I don't even go to any church. I pray inside my crib.

Mumuism is allowed. Keep paying, maga must pay grin

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Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by TruthHurts100: 2:08am On Jan 01, 2019
macello4:
very body is our mate on dis forum. I will not pray d prayer on my mind for u for d sake of ur parent. Put pls be careful with ur comment am not ole and i will never be ok.

Prayer is good sir. I'm sorry for using the bad language but this scam must end sir.
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by gbagyiza: 2:08am On Jan 01, 2019
myboy2111:
grin grin
The Church I stopped attending..the Pastor will be calling out names one after the other for special offering. I told the Pastor I will no longer attend the Church. 80% of members are women.

Women r so easy to deceive. Their mumu too much, worshipping pastors like say they r Christ. I wonder why most women can't figure out n follow the teaching of d bible, they to much give attention to anything pastors tell them. Our last Sunday bulletin carried d date for 2019 first fruit offering. When I saw it, I was speechless.

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Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by SonsOfLiverpool(m): 2:09am On Jan 01, 2019
TruthHurts100:


1 Corinthians 15:20

But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

You've been a mumu for too long. If you don't know, you shut up. Ode!

James 1:18
Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. Firstfruits best of God's creation. Wake up.
Calm down, I was being funny, no throw stone enter market your brother dey there grin grin grin
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by TruthHurts100: 2:11am On Jan 01, 2019
alBHAGDADI:


You think Christianity is only about the new Testament? No wonder your kind are always quick to throw away the old testament as if it's no longer God's word. See what the book of Proverbs which is not a law of Moses said to we children of God about firstfruits.

Proverbs 3:9
9 Honour the LORD with thy substance, and with the
firstfruits of all thine increase:

If you say we shouldn't obey the above verse because it is on the old testament, then what you are saying is that we should also disobey God and our parents because the same book advises on that too.

Proverbs 1:1-9
1 The proverbs of Solomon the son of David, king of Israel;

2 To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding;

3 To receive the instruction of wisdom, justice, and judgment, and equity;

4 To give subtilty to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion.

5 A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:

6 To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.

7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

8 My son, hear the instruction of thy father, and forsake not the law of thy mother:

9 For they shall be an ornament of grace unto thy head, and chains about thy neck


Sir, why is it that the pastors retains any part of the mosaic law that has to do with money or giving.

What about stoning a disobedient child to death? Why leave that one out?

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Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by wavylevel: 2:11am On Jan 01, 2019
lunaticfringe:
Do not say what you dont know op. Giving is an act of tapping blessings from God. I pray you experience Lords blessings as you give. if not for giving nobody will be calling Abraham father of all nations. Enough said.

Will you keep quiet!

Brainwashed amala head!

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Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by TruthHurts100: 2:12am On Jan 01, 2019
SonsOfLiverpool:
Calm down, I was being funny, no throw stone enter market your brother dey there grin grin grin

I dey vex. People no dey read their Bible. No vex abeg.
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 2:12am On Jan 01, 2019
SonsOfLiverpool:
Old testament? Hahahahahaha there's a part in old testament where we are asked to stone adulterous women to death, should we follow that too?

Show us where Jesus or his disciples preached or collect first fruit or even tithe, stop quoting Jewish practice.

We are Christians not Jews.

Thief
That part of stoning is found in the law of Moses. As for firstfruits, it existed even before Moses was born e.g Abel gave firstfruits.

The part on Proverbs 3:9 talking about giving firstfruits which that guy quoted is not under the law of Moses but in Proverbs which is a book of wisdom, and wisdom should never be done away with. Same Proverbs tells us to fear God and obey our parents. Should we throw that away too?

Proverbs 1:7-9
7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
8 My son, hear the instruction of thy father, and forsake not the law of thy mother:
9 For they shall be an ornament of grace unto thy head, and chains about thy neck

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Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by 1Sharon(f): 2:12am On Jan 01, 2019
lunaticfringe:
Do not say what you dont know op. Giving is an act of tapping blessings from God. I pray you experience Lords blessings as you give. if not for giving nobody will be calling Abraham father of all nations. Enough said.

LOL this is one of them
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 2:13am On Jan 01, 2019
TruthHurts100:


Sir, why is it that the pastors retains any part of the mosaic law that has to do with money or giving.

What about stoning a disobedient child to death? Why leave that one out?
The book of Proverbs which I quote, is it part of the Mosaic law?

You foolish people just think the whole old testament is the Mosaic law, so you throw everything away.

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