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Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by Jonra(m): 12:38pm On Jan 01, 2019
Learn to think and seek truth. Every individual has the capacity to seek truth and know it! (Whether absolute or relative)

Don't push your responsibility to God.

jetz:
Religion been dividing nigerian since 1914...honestly only God knows the truth cos religion has caused more harm than good

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Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by Les: 12:40pm On Jan 01, 2019
Newboss:


Have you tried knowing Mohammad or Buddha personally?angry
grin grin grin I'm not a religious person o, I'm more of a freethinker than you are sef grin grin grin grin I have my reasons I asked, I read all books and study whatever comes my way. Like it or not, he could learn one or two things in handling this particular situation.
Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by bolinjkezzy(m): 12:40pm On Jan 01, 2019
Les:
I know Him personally not based on what I read or been told.
How did you? If you weren't told about him am sure you wouldn't have known he exist

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Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by Donbrown28: 12:41pm On Jan 01, 2019
Am a freethinker,although I do go to church, but not always.. My view about life make me who I am..

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How Do I Convince My Wife?
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Hi everyone, I will try not to make this post a lengthy one.

I was born into a Muslim family and raised as a muslim. My wife met me as a practicing Muslim way back 2005 when we were both undergraduate in one of Nigeria's federal Universities. Recently, i started losing interest in religion, started seeing it as a source of division among humans ( like Muslims attacking Christians and vice versa). The idea of people burning in hell and some people enjoying in paradise makes no sense to me if God is really loving as claimed by theists.

But my wife is not comfortable with my religious views, infact she has started seeing me as hellbound ( don't blame her though, a true Muslim hardly marry from other religions talkless of marrying a freethinker like me ). I can see that the love she has for me is gradually reducing simply because I chose not to hold any religious views. I have no problem with her religious views, sometimes when she is far asleep, I will wake her up in the morning to observe her solat.

How do I make her understand that I can be a good husband to her without having any religious beliefs ?
The only thing she reads about are stuffs pertaining to Islam, she hardly read about science or other non religious topics. She is one of the people who believes that no human can be morally upright without having the fear of God or subscribe to religious ideas.


Just of recent, I thought of leaving Nigeria to any western country so as to be able to live my life peacefully without anyone questioning my religious views or tag me as an infidel. But I can't just leave everything behind just because my woman is not comfortable with my religious views and has been quarrelling with me on it.

How do I make her live with me peacefully without her feeling uncomfortable? Has anyone experienced this before ? How did you manage the situation ?
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Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by lukman: 12:42pm On Jan 01, 2019
How much knowledge of the Qur'an do you have ? and how much about the seerah of the Prophet Muhammad do you know? . It is hard to keep your faith if you don't have certain level of knowledge.

And from all indications, you allow the media to teach you your religion instead of Qur'an via trustworthy scholars.

May Allah guide you brother.

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Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by Xisnin(m): 12:43pm On Jan 01, 2019
Never mention religion in your house again.
If she brings it up, deflect the question.
She will accept the reality after a few years provided she is not planning
to separate from you.
Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by MrsMusty(f): 12:43pm On Jan 01, 2019
Friend01:



The question is what really changed your views?

And again, what is your concern about people having different beliefs and who they cling to what they believe?
We were never created to follow the same path.

If you can question God for putting people in hell and heaven why don't you question the government for hiring and firing people and even jail people who run foul against the law?
It is simple human logic.
You don't go against the law and get rewarded.
Similarly God has laid down rules and procedure which every right thinking human is expected to follow and if any decide to follow his own rule (like you are doing)then God has the right to judge that person through such laws without any injustice.

You don't just do what you like because it sounds appealing to you.
I am sorry to say this, your wife sounds more logical (even though I know some 21st century deluded wanna bees will call her a fanatic or any of those names) .

You should also know that it is not possible to be in a relationship where the main essence of love is loving and Obeying God and His legislation first before any other thing is secondary.

You can't be worshipping your whims and expect someone to follow you in that same line. No serious muslim does that.

You think differing of views have not be sufficiently explained in the Qur'aan that you are still getting it confused?

Don't be deceived by the glitters of this life and the universal appeal of 21st century idealism, it is nothing but a poisoned chalice.

I will advice to seek help or advice from a learned teacher of Islam before you make one,if not the greatest mistake of your life.
There is nothing in this life oh.
Even the life these non Muslims kill themselves over has nothing of everlasting reward in it.




Allāh the almighty said (interpretation of the meaning) :

"Know that the life of this world is only play and amusement, pomp and mutual boasting among you, and rivalry in respect of wealth and children, as the likeness of vegetation after rain, thereof the growth is pleasing to the tiller; afterwards it dries up and you see it turning yellow; then it becomes straw. But in the Hereafter (there is) a severe torment (for the disbelievers, evil-doers), and (there is) Forgiveness from Allah and (His) Good Pleasure (for the believers, good-doers), whereas the life of this world is only a deceiving enjoyment“. [57:20]
May Almighty Allah increase u in every positive way. I have found so much joy in reading ur replies. Jaza kumullahi khairan

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Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by abdullkabar(m): 12:43pm On Jan 01, 2019
ojoj:
Dear op,

We all have what we look at in the opposite sex before committing our lives in marriage. I am sure she would have been approached for marriage by other men in other religions. It's like promising one and at the end the peomise is not fulfilled. It's a betrayal...yes you have betrayed your wife! and she will never be happy with you. You have to come back to your religious self. Being atheist happens when one is not involving in religious activities. The reason why you are having a doubt about your religion is that you have ceased in engaging yourself in activites like asalau, listening to positive Islamic talks etc.
For you to come back, please start attending asalat program or look for any of these asalatu on Sundays and start attending, you will see that you will come back to the way she met you and she will be happy with you.
Stop listening to negative Islamic talks. Run away from negative friends. Please make your wife happy. You saw her like that before marrying her. Please don't let her down. All the best.
100% correct
@Op, if u really love her as you claim, sacrifice a part of your free thinking for Islam (you will be amazed when you combine your free thinking to your religion)
By the way, religion isn't a prison (you are suppose to think)
I also got engrossed with free thinking but I had to keep myself in check.
Its all in your head (if u were born and bred in Saudi Arabia, u wouldn't have changed)
Its circumstance
Love your wife and your children
Your free thinking is trying to threaten your family, don't allow it. We control our thought, not them us
(Family is everything)

Note: It doesn't end here,your action will have positive or negative feedbacks. Weigh the options, is it worth it.
Keep your mind in check bro
Am advising you as a human to human (not religiously concerned)

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Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by Les: 12:43pm On Jan 01, 2019
bolinjkezzy:

How did you? If you weren't told about him am sure you wouldn't have known he exist
I can't tell you that, it's personal.
Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by Ayobami7(m): 12:44pm On Jan 01, 2019
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Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by Jonra(m): 12:47pm On Jan 01, 2019
It's all good... ambivalence is a part of postmodern life.

Whatever it is, don't be overwhelmed.

Life is actually simple!

Happy New Year

MrsMusty:
Tnk u very much for this answer. Nothing really explains it all. it's too great to be explained!

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Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by Friend01(m): 12:48pm On Jan 01, 2019
AreaFada2:

Weyrey. grin
Nigerians might claim to be tolerant people. But religious people have become increasingly intolerant of free thinkers and traditional religion subscribers. I wonder if we all read the same religious book.

No society without free thinkers succeeds. Funny that ardent religious people cannot do without inventions of free thinkers like the Chinese and Westerners. From church owned TV stations/Broadcast to IPhone. grin

My Christian faith tells me to love my neighbour as myself. It didn't say my neighbour must be a Christian.

@Op,
it is obvious your wife would not have married you back then as you are now. She feels duped in a way. You may not need to continue your religious practice even if less strictly than before. It is your religion from birth after all.
Human interpretation of religion may not be perfect but hold on to the positives you find in it.


This is the deviation some of your cling to ruin religious fundamentals.
Who said you shouldn't think or explore or even improve upon your existing knowledge of matters and materials -science.
Which religion tells you not to do that?

Just google 101 inventions and you will see what Muslim religious people contributed to science.
Read about Ibn al-haytham and Al-khwarizmi and even al-jabbar (who is the inventor or father of algebra ) all Muslims.
Even not for these Muslims scientist who shaped and remodelled scientific guidelines I guest people like Seun could not have designed Nairaland which all made of algorithm ascribed to Al-khwarizmi and al-jabbar.

Ignorant folks who have not really studied religion thinks religion is a problem of science whereas science is just and off shoot of religion.

Science and technology does not talk about ethics and human behaviour it only deal with matter and and elements and their workings.
stop mistaking the two.
Development in science is not the same as development in morals.

When both conflict faith take the higher ground.
I can't subject myself to human thinking which erratic (ever changing) to that of God's omniscient.
One will be definitely wrong and I know it can never be God's.

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Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by likita27: 12:49pm On Jan 01, 2019
All you guys need help from brainwashing, both Islam and Christianity are foreign to us as a people, we were doing something before these religions came, if the guy says he is no more interested in the religion, leave him, na by force? If the wife wants to leave let him leave, shikena!
Time2Smile:

You are being unfair to your wife. This is not what she signed up for. She would probably not have married you if you were in the present state of thinking when you guys met. So it is well within her right to feel disgusted about the present state of affairs.

But OP, how can you lose your faith? Don't you see all the beauty in the world? The orderliness and diversity of creations and animals. Behind every creation is a creator. All of the things in this world and beyond couldn't have come from nothing.
I want you to understand that everything you have and enjoy is a blessing from your God and creator. Your sight, your limbs, your wealth, your very being and existence, the food you eat and enjoy. The thinking faculty you are using to doubt his existence. The love you have for your wife, that special indescribable feeling when you make love to your wife. All these are a blessing to you from him. And they are as real as he is.

And he has only asked one thing from you in return for all these innumerable blessings; That you worship him only and not associate any partner with him. And Allah has also told you how to worship him by sending Prophets to guide you. The last of whom is Prophet Muhammad (May the peace and blessing of Allah be upon him). And he revealed through his Prophet that whomever reject this guidance and deny all this blessing will be punished. That is the truth, and will always be the truth. And nothing can change the truth.

No amount of free thinking will be accepted as an excuse from you when you meet your Lord. He is the one that created you whether you accept it or not. That fact doesn't change whether you believe or disbelief in Allah. And he will judge you based on the criteria he has given you and clearly stated. There is no justice in this fleeting life. Verily the final recompense and Justice is with our Lord in the hereafter.

I pray that Allah makes us among the successful ones and die in the state of belief as Muslims.

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Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by bolinjkezzy(m): 12:50pm On Jan 01, 2019
Les:
I can't tell you that, it's personal.
You can't tell me but how do you expect the OP to know someone you knew personally but can't talk about him.
Happy new year

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Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by Friend01(m): 12:52pm On Jan 01, 2019
MrsMusty:
May Almighty Allah increase u in every positive way. I have found so much joy in reading ur replies. Jaza kumullahi khairan


Aameen.

Wa anti fajazaakumuLlāh khayran.

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Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by Les: 12:52pm On Jan 01, 2019
bolinjkezzy:

You can't tell me but how do you expect the OP to know someone you knew personally but can't talk about him.
Happy new year
like I said, no one told me, I got to know personally. So everyone should in their own personal way.

I wish you a prosperous days ahead! cool cool
Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by ugjeks(m): 12:54pm On Jan 01, 2019
I recently saw this animated movie 'Smallfoot'. It got me thinking about how people can be enslaved by traditions and doctrines that has been passed on for centurys.
The fights on this lil thread is a true evidence of the division religion has bestowed on humans. If you don't question your religious beliefs then your are a slave to it.
It's a good thing brother that you come to this point of questioning religion. But unlike you, I do believe there is an Almighty God who created and 'designed' things into being. Nature can never be as a result of any randomness.
Your question bro boils down to appealing to your conscience. Your wife is disappointed, she hasn't gotten to that point of asking questions.
If you really love your wife, stay with her, love her and understand her feelings. Put yourself in her shoes too. It's not her fault it's the system.

God is loving, he makes rain and sun to be upon everyone. He doesn't discriminate. It's man that created these divisions and doctrines.
You are born a Muslim, look for something beautiful about Islam hold on to it and don't discriminate against others.

With time your wife will understand you.

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Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by Newboss(m): 12:54pm On Jan 01, 2019
Les:
grin grin grin I'm not a religious person o, I'm more of a freethinker than you are sef grin grin grin grin I have my reasons I asked, I read all books and study whatever comes my way. Like it or not, he could learn one or two things in handling this particular situation.

Answer the question and stop all the stories angry

Who cares what you read? angry

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Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by Yoighaman(m): 12:56pm On Jan 01, 2019
I personally believe religion is a powerful cord that can tie relationshps but when broken, messes up everything. It's like 2 born-again Christians getting married and one subsequently decides to turn a muslim or atheist, what do you expect of such marriage? My opinion, if you guys cannot get on the same page, go your separate ways amicably, it's generally referred to as 'irreconcilable differences'.....life is too short to be miserable.

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Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by tallfish145(m): 12:57pm On Jan 01, 2019
Les:
Any kids? Just checking out stuff that could tie you down in case you wanna leave.

Yes you might consider leaving for the sake of your life and sanity.

BTW, have you tried knowing Jesus personally?
someone is seeking a good advice from you,here you making it worse for him. Na Jesus create you?
Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by Originalsly: 12:57pm On Jan 01, 2019
mainanalyst:

Yes, there are kids.
Try to know Jesus ? By reading the book of talking snakes ? Truth is , if most of you take your time to read the contradictions in the holy books of Abrahamic religions (Islam, Christian, Judaism) , you will get to realise that they are just fairy tales.
That's why most developed countries have removed religious subjects from their curriculum and changed with it subjects on morality.

Bro.... if you read the Bible the way you read a novel...you will find a whole lot of contradictions. It is more like having to connect dots to form a picture.... some people are willing to learn how to...some like you...simply condemn due to lack of understanding. Now putting the fairy tales aside..... your eyes are now wide open... you are now wise... a realist.... can you tell me how the earth was formed? I want to be wise like you.Only a fool says there is no God
@ the main issue...... ...be ye not unequally yoked with unbelievers: for what fellowship righteousness hath with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?....a warning quoted from the book of fairy tales.....which is now a reality in your life. You a Muslim married her a Muslim....equally yoked. Now you are not a Muslim but she still is...unequally yoked. You should be the spiritual head of your family...according to the fairy tales... you are not.... either you both be atheists...Muslim or whatever.... and that can't be done by force....if not ...you ...you are destroying your own family.... afterall...you can abandon them and move on with your life.... just like beasts do.
Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by tallfish145(m): 1:00pm On Jan 01, 2019
mainanalyst:
How Do I Convince My Wife?


Hi everyone, I will try not to make this post a lengthy one.

I was born into a Muslim family and raised as a muslim. My wife met me as a practicing Muslim way back 2005 when we were both undergraduate in one of Nigeria's federal Universities. Recently, i started losing interest in religion, started seeing it as a source of division among humans ( like Muslims attacking Christians and vice versa). The idea of people burning in hell and some people enjoying in paradise makes no sense to me if God is really loving as claimed by theists.

But my wife is not comfortable with my religious views, infact she has started seeing me as hellbound ( don't blame her though, a true Muslim hardly marry from other religions talkless of marrying a freethinker like me ). I can see that the love she has for me is gradually reducing simply because I chose not to hold any religious views. I have no problem with her religious views, sometimes when she is far asleep, I will wake her up in the morning to observe her solat.

How do I make her understand that I can be a good husband to her without having any religious beliefs ?
The only thing she reads about are stuffs pertaining to Islam, she hardly read about science or other non religious topics. She is one of the people who believes that no human can be morally upright without having the fear of God or subscribe to religious ideas.


Just of recent, I thought of leaving Nigeria to any western country so as to be able to live my life peacefully without anyone questioning my religious views or tag me as an infidel. But I can't just leave everything behind just because my woman is not comfortable with my religious views and has been quarrelling with me on it.

How do I make her live with me peacefully without her feeling uncomfortable? Has anyone experienced this before ? How did you manage the situation ?
leaving Islam is the worst mistake you can ever make. Be steadfast in your religion and stay with your family.May Allah subhana watahala guide you

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Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by NOETHNICITY(m): 1:04pm On Jan 01, 2019
mainanalyst:


Lol, I didn't listen to any negative talks about Islam
If you know my level of Faith before, you will know that no amount of negative talks about Islam can changed me.I just stopped losing interest in religions generally due to the division it has created among humans.
Secondly, not everyone has the faith to believe that Allah created the universe but no one created Allah. It's like something came out of nothing.
Additionally,I have asked many Islamic scholars some mind boggling questions and none of them have been able to provide convincing answers. I am not the type of dude that does something just because billions of humans on earth are doing it. In addition, if you truly understand science and see the beauty of science, you will get to know that religions generally are not sufficient enough to provide answers on human creation.

Bro, I'm a Muslim who derive pleasure interrogating Islamic doctrines. And I have remained a Muslim because so far I have been able conveniently assuage all doubts as they come.
So, plz I want to know those contentious issues about Islam which no one was able to clarify for you

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Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by Dracomemnon: 1:04pm On Jan 01, 2019
Time2Smile:

You are so rude and uncouth. The fact that Nairaland is a faceless forum doesn't give you liberty to address people without manners. Stay off my mention because I never quoted you.
This is the only time I will reply you. I have too much dignity to roll in the mud with you.
Lool... shocked I hope you're just being sarcastic.

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Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by Y2Kbaba: 1:05pm On Jan 01, 2019
[/quote]Now you smile @Op because of this, even when someone refers to your wife as a bitch
Its shows how "freethinking" you have become.


You had better chose what is most important and set your priority right.

Your family(that is if you value them,which I doubt ) or your meaningless idea. undecided

mainanalyst:

cheesy cheesy
Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by Jonra(m): 1:06pm On Jan 01, 2019
Faith is superior to reason but not counter to it.

Why is leaving Islam the worst mistake he can make?

tallfish145:
leaving Islam is the worst mistake you can ever make. Be steadfast in your religion and stay with your family.May Allah subhana watahala guide you
Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by tallfish145(m): 1:06pm On Jan 01, 2019
ugjeks:
I recently saw this animated movie 'Smallfoot'. It got me thinking about how people can be enslaved by traditions and doctrines that has been passed on for centurys.
The fights on this lil thread is a true evidence of the division religion has bestowed on humans. If you don't question your religious beliefs then your are a slave to it.
It's a good thing brother that you come to this point of questioning religion. But unlike you, I do believe there is an Almighty God who created and 'designed' things into being. Nature can never be as a result of any randomness.
Your question bro boils down to appealing to your conscience. Your wife is disappointed, she hasn't gotten to that point of asking questions.
If you really love your wife, stay with her, love her and understand her feelings. Put yourself in her shoes too. It's not her fault it's the system.

God is loving, he makes rain and sun to be upon everyone. He doesn't discriminate. It's man that created these divisions and doctrines.
You are born a Muslim, look for something beautiful about Islam hold on to it and don't discriminate against others. enough said

With time your wife will understand you.
Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by Yoighaman(m): 1:10pm On Jan 01, 2019
Kindly permit me to ask a question.

Muslims believe Christians would go to hell because they don't see the holy prophet as their saviour.

Christians believe Muslims would go to hell because they don't see Jesus Christ as the only way to God.

Other numerous religions have these kind of convictions too.

...so who are those going to heaven and those going to hell? and please don't forget that we have only one God who is a loving father to us all and clearly not a confusionist...

Don't you guys think something is wrong somewhere?

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Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by FantasticJ: 1:11pm On Jan 01, 2019
Les:
Any kids? Just checking out stuff that could tie you down in case you wanna leave.

Yes you might consider leaving for the sake of your life and sanity.

BTW, have you tried knowing Jesus personally?

Where does the Jesus stays?
Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by WaffenSS(m): 1:18pm On Jan 01, 2019
Easiest way to migrate:

1. Claim you're gay and are being persecuted

2. Claim you're a freethinker and your wife doesn't love you anymore

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Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by chineloSA(f): 1:18pm On Jan 01, 2019
mainanalyst:
How Do I Convince My Wife?


Hi everyone, I will try not to make this post a lengthy one.

I was born into a Muslim family and raised as a muslim. My wife met me as a practicing Muslim way back 2005 when we were both undergraduate in one of Nigeria's federal Universities. Recently, i started losing interest in religion, started seeing it as a source of division among humans ( like Muslims attacking Christians and vice versa). The idea of people burning in hell and some people enjoying in paradise makes no sense to me if God is really loving as claimed by theists.

But my wife is not comfortable with my religious views, infact she has started seeing me as hellbound ( don't blame her though, a true Muslim hardly marry from other religions talkless of marrying a freethinker like me ). I can see that the love she has for me is gradually reducing simply because I chose not to hold any religious views. I have no problem with her religious views, sometimes when she is far asleep, I will wake her up in the morning to observe her solat.

How do I make her understand that I can be a good husband to her without having any religious beliefs ?
The only thing she reads about are stuffs pertaining to Islam, she hardly read about science or other non religious topics. She is one of the people who believes that no human can be morally upright without having the fear of God or subscribe to religious ideas.


Just of recent, I thought of leaving Nigeria to any western country so as to be able to live my life peacefully without anyone questioning my religious views or tag me as an infidel. But I can't just leave everything behind just because my woman is not comfortable with my religious views and has been quarrelling with me on it.

How do I make her live with me peacefully without her feeling uncomfortable? Has anyone experienced this before ? How did you manage the situation ?


I was also a staunch Catholic and met my husband while I was practising Catholicism.

Two year into our marriage, I changed and my husband was still religious and still is.

The only thing that helped me and my husband was questioning and not just argue that it's not good. We used to intelligently debate and still do about about religion. Questioning helped him question himself too.
Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by diadem10: 1:20pm On Jan 01, 2019
Protein0:

I'm interested in knowing the contradictions in the Holy book of Islam sir. Please help me by telling me some, thanks kiss
The saying that Abraham was a muslim and that Ishmael was the promise child which are false. We all the Israelites aint muslims.

BTW, what Bokoharam is today was exactly what Mohammed was. He forced people into slaves, terrorised countries and was a sex pervert who raped many women. Lest I forget, he had a child as a wife.

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