A nanny is the expensive option which would cost over £1k pcm or is it the agency type nanny cum aupair? The ones you pay per week?
Everything depends on your bargaining power I believe,I had one Nigerian nanny from an agency and I regretted it.
I was paying £1500 ,then I was paying holiday bonus,she had special food which we supplied and we also paid for her toiletries etc
She worked 5 days a week 8-6:30 and had weekends off.She did not cook,only job she did was clean her room,kids room and her bathroom,fold their laundry(we ironed), dress the kids make sure they had their meals & bathe them.
She was basically looking after the younger child as we placed the older one in nursery 4 times a week.
She was overtly familiar and kept on reminding me that she was a bank manager in Nigeria years ago,she was a big woman etc,I asked her how that was relevant to this job?
She was also very critical of the way we raised our children and wanted us to call her mama.
She never took the kids to the park or did any extra curricular activities with them, and she was constantly complaining.
If we came home and cooked food late she would complain that she was hungry..we always told her all the food was at her disposal but she preferred to eat what I cooked.
She once mistakenly knocked my daughter down and then blamed her for being in her way.
She scratched my daughter's face and blamed me for not buying hand creme to soften her nails.
She blamed my then 3 year old for farting in her face on purpose but she bent him over to wash his bum and somehow he farted but she said he did it on purpose.
This is a shortened version.I employed this Nigerian nanny who came highly recommended by the agency cos I thought it would aid my children in learning my local language.
We fired her after she tried to accuse my husband and I of something we did not do, something she clearly did but refused to tell the truth.
My children hated her but we were desperate cos of our jobs.I regret every second of it and will never make the mistake of sacrificing the well being of my children again just to make a living.
I have a friend who shipped a relative from Nigeria to nanny for her,the woman called police for them and said they took her documents and enslaved her..this woman is in her 40s.
Some people have good experiences though.
Nowadays I pay £1100 pcm for 4 days in nursery then breakfast and after school club £400pcm. Extracurriculars cost about £300-400pcm
Once the younger one turns three,nursery fee will come down to about £700.
I'm happier with nursery for now because I have peace of mind,I'm happy to spend the money and have peace.The risk of leaving my most precious possession in the hands of just.anybody is too scary.I no dey do again.
DH and I have had to work round each other. He is more flexible thankfully as I cannot pick and choose my shifts at will.
I also spend loads to bring in grandparents from Nigeria but then again I have peace of mind.
If you have CCTV at home,maybe you can employ an aupair I don't know but you will have to tell.her there are cameras installed.I think they're the ones in the price range you mentioned,I may be wrong.
3 children is a lot but it depends on their ages.If 3 and above,check the 30 free hours entitlement. If less than 3,you'll need to cough up the cash and work with partner/husband or not work at all till they're older.
Me I prefer to work and spend all my salary on nursery just to preserve my sanity, besides having a leg in the career door is very necessary for every woman.
A nanny is the expensive option which would cost over £1k pcm or is it the agency type nanny cum aupair? The ones you pay per week?
Everything depends on your bargaining power I believe,I had one Nigerian nanny from an agency and I regretted it.
Sorry to hear all these. Why I am saying £600 is that a friend of mine that has three kids, one is six, four and the last one is two years, she employed this lady that came from Nigeria as visiting visa, she was so lucky the lady is very good to the kids, she does the cleaning of the living room, kitchen, inface her house is always neat, she help to arrange the kids cloths neatly in the cupboard,she take them out, bath,dress and take the four years old girl to school,infact the lady is too much,she even work atimes on Saturday but guess what my friend pays her, only £600. So I was supprised.that is why I am asking. The lady lives in her house.
I was paying £1500 ,then I was paying holiday bonus,she had special food which we supplied and we also paid for her toiletries etc
She worked 5 days a week 8-6:30 and had weekends off.She did not cook,only job she did was clean her room,kids room and her bathroom,fold their laundry(we ironed), dress the kids make sure they had their meals & bathe them.
She was basically looking after the younger child as we placed the older one in nursery 4 times a week.
She was overtly familiar and kept on reminding me that she was a bank manager in Nigeria years ago,she was a big woman etc,I asked her how that was relevant to this job?
She was also very critical of the way we raised our children and wanted us to call her mama.
She never took the kids to the park or did any extra curricular activities with them, and she was constantly complaining.
If we came home and cooked food late she would complain that she was hungry..we always told her all the food was at her disposal but she preferred to eat what I cooked.
She once mistakenly knocked my daughter down and then blamed her for being in her way.
She scratched my daughter's face and blamed me for not buying hand creme to soften her nails.
She blamed my then 3 year old for farting in her face on purpose but she bent him over to wash his bum and somehow he farted but she said he did it on purpose.
This is a shortened version.I employed this Nigerian nanny who came highly recommended by the agency cos I thought it would aid my children in learning my local language.
We fired her after she tried to accuse my husband and I of something we did not do, something she clearly did but refused to tell the truth.
My children hated her but we were desperate cos of our jobs.I regret every second of it and will never make the mistake of sacrificing the well being of my children again just to make a living.
I have a friend who shipped a relative from Nigeria to nanny for her,the woman called police for them and said they took her documents and enslaved her..this woman is in her 40s.
Some people have good experiences though.
Nowadays I pay £1100 pcm for 4 days in nursery then breakfast and after school club £400pcm. Extracurriculars cost about £300-400pcm
Once the younger one turns three,nursery fee will come down to about £700.
I'm happier with nursery for now because I have peace of mind,I'm happy to spend the money and have peace.The risk of leaving my most precious possession in the hands of just.anybody is too scary.I no dey do again.
DH and I have had to work round each other. He is more flexible thankfully as I cannot pick and choose my shifts at will.
I also spend loads to bring in grandparents from Nigeria but then again I have peace of mind.
If you have CCTV at home,maybe you can employ an aupair I don't know but you will have to tell.her there are cameras installed.I think they're the ones in the price range you mentioned,I may be wrong.
3 children is a lot but it depends on their ages.If 3 and above,check the 30 free hours entitlement. If less than 3,you'll need to cough up the cash and work with partner/husband or not work at all till they're older.
Me I prefer to work and spend all my salary on nursery just to preserve my sanity, besides having a leg in the career door is very necessary for every woman.
A nanny is the expensive option which would cost over £1k pcm or is it the agency type nanny cum aupair? The ones you pay per week?
Everything depends on your bargaining power I believe,I had one Nigerian nanny from an agency and I regretted it.
I was paying £1500 ,then I was paying holiday bonus,she had special food which we supplied and we also paid for her toiletries etc
She worked 5 days a week 8-6:30 and had weekends off.She did not cook,only job she did was clean her room,kids room and her bathroom,fold their laundry(we ironed), dress the kids make sure they had their meals & bathe them.
She was basically looking after the younger child as we placed the older one in nursery 4 times a week.
She was overtly familiar and kept on reminding me that she was a bank manager in Nigeria years ago,she was a big woman etc,I asked her how that was relevant to this job?
She was also very critical of the way we raised our children and wanted us to call her mama.
She never took the kids to the park or did any extra curricular activities with them, and she was constantly complaining.
If we came home and cooked food late she would complain that she was hungry..we always told her all the food was at her disposal but she preferred to eat what I cooked.
She once mistakenly knocked my daughter down and then blamed her for being in her way.
She scratched my daughter's face and blamed me for not buying hand creme to soften her nails.
She blamed my then 3 year old for farting in her face on purpose but she bent him over to wash his bum and somehow he farted but she said he did it on purpose.
This is a shortened version.I employed this Nigerian nanny who came highly recommended by the agency cos I thought it would aid my children in learning my local language.
We fired her after she tried to accuse my husband and I of something we did not do, something she clearly did but refused to tell the truth.
My children hated her but we were desperate cos of our jobs.I regret every second of it and will never make the mistake of sacrificing the well being of my children again just to make a living.
I have a friend who shipped a relative from Nigeria to nanny for her,the woman called police for them and said they took her documents and enslaved her..this woman is in her 40s.
Some people have good experiences though.
Nowadays I pay £1100 pcm for 4 days in nursery then breakfast and after school club £400pcm. Extracurriculars cost about £300-400pcm
Once the younger one turns three,nursery fee will come down to about £700.
I'm happier with nursery for now because I have peace of mind,I'm happy to spend the money and have peace.The risk of leaving my most precious possession in the hands of just.anybody is too scary.I no dey do again.
DH and I have had to work round each other. He is more flexible thankfully as I cannot pick and choose my shifts at will.
I also spend loads to bring in grandparents from Nigeria but then again I have peace of mind.
If you have CCTV at home,maybe you can employ an aupair I don't know but you will have to tell.her there are cameras installed.I think they're the ones in the price range you mentioned,I may be wrong.
3 children is a lot but it depends on their ages.If 3 and above,check the 30 free hours entitlement. If less than 3,you'll need to cough up the cash and work with partner/husband or not work at all till they're older.
Me I prefer to work and spend all my salary on nursery just to preserve my sanity, besides having a leg in the career door is very necessary for every woman.
Good luck.
Sorry to hear all these. Why I am saying £600 is that a friend of mine that has three kids, one is six, four and the last one is two years, she employed this lady that came from Nigeria as visiting visa, she was so lucky the lady is very good to the kids, she does the cleaning of the living room, kitchen, inface her house is always neat, she help to arrange the kids cloths neatly in the cupboard,she take them out, bath,dress and take the four years old girl to school,infact the lady is too much,she even work atimes on Saturday but guess what my friend pays her, only £600. So I was supprised.that is why I am asking. The lady lives in her house. I think why she is paying her that is that the nanny doesn't have paper to work. Even my friend told me that most people in London still pay from £700-£500. I am surprised u said u pay £1500, does the Nigeria woman have documents to work with? Here in Peterborough no one can afford to pay £1000. How much is ones salary
please house,I plays talking drum and other instruments, if I can get a Nigerian church that can stand for me that there is no citizens that can play the talking drum for them,hence the need for me,can I get a work permit that way
francoteeboy2626: please house,I plays talking drum and other instruments, if I can get a Nigerian church that can stand for me that there is no citizens that can play the talking drum for them,hence the need for me,can I get a work permit that way
Talking drum player no de shortage occupation list oh but if you can preach very well then maybe the church can employ you as a pastor. Then you can come on a Tier 2 minister of religion visa.
francoteeboy2626: please house,I plays talking drum and other instruments, if I can get a Nigerian church that can stand for me that there is no citizens that can play the talking drum for them,hence the need for me,can I get a work permit that way
Hi, you can try Tier 1 (Exceptional Talent Visa). I believe there is a stream for the arts, which your talent is but you will need someone residing in the UK for endorsement (write a letter of recommendation for you). I believe you have a very good case with your skill set. Go through the "Exceptional promise" route.
Hi, you can try Tier 1 (Exceptional Talent Visa). I believe there is a stream for the arts, which your talent is but you will need someone residing in the UK for endorsement (write a letter of recommendation for you). I believe you have a very good case with your skill set. Go through the "Exceptional promise" route.
A nanny is the expensive option which would cost over £1k pcm or is it the agency type nanny cum aupair? The ones you pay per week?
Everything depends on your bargaining power I believe,I had one Nigerian nanny from an agency and I regretted it.
I was paying £1500 ,then I was paying holiday bonus,she had special food which we supplied and we also paid for her toiletries etc
She worked 5 days a week 8-6:30 and had weekends off.She did not cook,only job she did was clean her room,kids room and her bathroom,fold their laundry(we ironed), dress the kids make sure they had their meals & bathe them.
She was basically looking after the younger child as we placed the older one in nursery 4 times a week.
She was overtly familiar and kept on reminding me that she was a bank manager in Nigeria years ago,she was a big woman etc,I asked her how that was relevant to this job?
She was also very critical of the way we raised our children and wanted us to call her mama.
She never took the kids to the park or did any extra curricular activities with them, and she was constantly complaining.
If we came home and cooked food late she would complain that she was hungry..we always told her all the food was at her disposal but she preferred to eat what I cooked.
She once mistakenly knocked my daughter down and then blamed her for being in her way.
She scratched my daughter's face and blamed me for not buying hand creme to soften her nails.
She blamed my then 3 year old for farting in her face on purpose but she bent him over to wash his bum and somehow he farted but she said he did it on purpose.
This is a shortened version.I employed this Nigerian nanny who came highly recommended by the agency cos I thought it would aid my children in learning my local language.
We fired her after she tried to accuse my husband and I of something we did not do, something she clearly did but refused to tell the truth.
My children hated her but we were desperate cos of our jobs.I regret every second of it and will never make the mistake of sacrificing the well being of my children again just to make a living.
I have a friend who shipped a relative from Nigeria to nanny for her,the woman called police for them and said they took her documents and enslaved her..this woman is in her 40s.
Some people have good experiences though.
Nowadays I pay £1100 pcm for 4 days in nursery then breakfast and after school club £400pcm. Extracurriculars cost about £300-400pcm
Once the younger one turns three,nursery fee will come down to about £700.
I'm happier with nursery for now because I have peace of mind,I'm happy to spend the money and have peace.The risk of leaving my most precious possession in the hands of just.anybody is too scary.I no dey do again.
DH and I have had to work round each other. He is more flexible thankfully as I cannot pick and choose my shifts at will.
I also spend loads to bring in grandparents from Nigeria but then again I have peace of mind.
If you have CCTV at home,maybe you can employ an aupair I don't know but you will have to tell.her there are cameras installed.I think they're the ones in the price range you mentioned,I may be wrong.
3 children is a lot but it depends on their ages.If 3 and above,check the 30 free hours entitlement. If less than 3,you'll need to cough up the cash and work with partner/husband or not work at all till they're older.
Me I prefer to work and spend all my salary on nursery just to preserve my sanity, besides having a leg in the career door is very necessary for every woman.
Good luck.
people tend to shy away from talking about their childcare challenges in the UK. it is refreshing to read your post and i really appreciate your honesty with the figures you've quoted as well as your experience with the nanny. i think a lot of people (especially the single folks) need to be more aware of the cost of childcare, so they can strategise before having babies.
at a stage i was paying £2,100 a month for having two kids fulltime (monday to friday) in the nursery. the fees only dropped slighly to around £1800 when the free nursery hours kicked in. the fees is inclusive of everything - feeding (breakfast, lunch and 'dinner') as well as nappies and wipes. some nurseries even take babies from birth.
we did consider the nanny option but when we calculated the costs (including pension and sick pay), cost of feeding the nanny, heating costs when she's home with the kids, etc, we settled for the nursery option.
childminders are no better. they also demand holiday pay and sick pay. meanwhile, whilst they are on holiday, it is your responsibility to arrange and pay for alternative child care.
the choice of employing someone undocumented or here on visiting visa was not even an option. there are too many stories these days of such people turning around to claim asylum based on slavery. slavery in the sense that you are paying them below minimum wage and capitalising on their vulnerability to get cheap childcare. it has put a lot of people in big trouble as it leads to a full police investigation/court case which in most cases (except for divine intercvention), a criminal conviction is almost guaranteed. besides, such people are known to be unreliable and have been known to cause injury to kids which have led to child abuse investigations.
the choice of being a non-working mum wasn't an option for my wife. like you, she is of the opinion that having a leg in the career door is very necessary for every woman and besides nursery fees is just a phase - by age 4-5, the kids are off to primary school and the financial cost reduce.
i won't trade the sanity we get from using a nursery for childcare for anything.
Thanks for your response but it is [b]local childminder [/b]I am looking for. I can only afford £600 a month. I am just asking to know how much others pay
a 'local childminder' will not accept £600 per month to look after 3 kids 7am -7pm, 5 days a weeks and two Saturdays a month. NEVER.
what you are looking for is someone undocumented or here on visiting visa. even with that, you will be lucky to find one on these terms.
a 'local childminder' will not accept £600 per month to look after 3 kids 7am -7pm, 5 days a weeks and two Saturdays a month. NEVER.
what you are looking for is someone undocumented or here on visiting visa. even with that, you will be lucky to find one on these terms.
Sorry to ask sir, the question that keeps coming to mind that, is having mother in-laws around not an option too? As they can keep rotating between both parent's mum every 6 months. Is this not possible or there's a clause to it as well?
Sorry to ask sir, the question that keeps coming to mind that, is having mother in-laws around not an option too? As they can keep rotating between both parent's mum every 6 months. Is this not possible or there's a clause to it as well?
Having your mum or mum-in-law around is an option. its a case of applying for a visit visa and hope they are approved, however, they cannot stay any more than 6 months at a time and I think no more than 6months in total within a 12 months period.
I have heard of recent cases where elderly ones are being refused for a renewal (eg. 2 years), after their initial 6months visa just because they stayed for 5 months or close to 6 months. some couples have their mum visit briefly before the baby arrives, return and then apply for 2years. i know someone that kept his mum here illegally for over 5 years (she came in on 6months) and sent her back to nigeria when the kids were all in primary school.
another issue is the current health condition of mum or mum in law. the cold weather is not really friendly for some. some other miss their friends and family as well as the buzz and owambe parties in Nigeria. it is also important to consider if they have the physical strength and endurance to look after kids if not, you might end up having to worry about her health.
then some mum in laws (like mine) have businesses, etc that they are running in nigeria and being away for any longer than 2 months is practically impossible for them. some mums like mine feel the kids are your responsibility and they have no intention of being turned to childminder/babysitter and they want to enjoy their retirement travelling around the world and living their best life. I don't blame them though - babysitting under 5s all alone at old age is a lot of work.
Having your mum or mum-in-law around is an option. its a case of applying for a visit visa and hope they are approved, however, they cannot stay any more than 6 months at a time and I think no more than 6months in total within a 12 months period.
I have heard of recent cases where elderly ones are being refused for a renewal (eg. 2 years), after their initial 6months visa just because they stayed for 5 months or close to 6 months. some couples have their mum visit briefly before the baby arrives, return and then apply for 2years. i know someone that kept his mum here illegally for over 5 years (she came in on 6months) and sent her back to nigeria when the kids were all in primary school.
another issue is the current health condition of mum or mum in law. the cold weather is not really friendly for some. some other miss their friends and family as well as the buzz and owambe parties in Nigeria. it is also important to consider if they have the physical strength and endurance to look after kids if not, you might end up having to worry about her health.
then some mum in laws (like mine) have businesses, etc that they are running in nigeria and being away for any longer than 2 months is practically impossible for them. some mums like mine feel the kids are your responsibility and they have no intention of being turned to childminder/babysitter and they want to enjoy their retirement travelling around the world and living their best life. I don't blame them though - babysitting under 5s all alone at old age is a lot of work.
Yesterday my recycling bin went missing so I decided to check my CCTV to see who the culprit was. To my amazement I see the bin man empty the bin and then throw the bin in the dust cart. He seems to be high on something. I’ve reported him to the council. This is the cctv clip
a 'local childminder' will not accept £600 per month to look after 3 kids 7am -7pm, 5 days a weeks and two Saturdays a month. NEVER.
what you are looking for is someone undocumented or here on visiting visa. even with that, you will be lucky to find one on these terms.
Why I am saying £600 is that a friend of mine that has three kids, one is six, four and the last one is two years, she employed this lady that came from Nigeria as visiting visa, she was so lucky the lady is very good to the kids, she does the cleaning of the living room, kitchen, inface her house is always neat, she help to arrange the kids cloths neatly in the cupboard,she take them out, bath,dress and take the four years old girl to school,infact the lady is too much,she even work atimes on Saturday but guess what my friend pays her, only £600. So I was supprised.that is why I am asking. The lady lives in her house. I think why she is paying her that is that the nanny doesn't have paper to work. Even my friend told me that most people in London still pay from £700-£500
Why I am saying £600 is that a friend of mine that has three kids, one is six, four and the last one is two years, she employed this lady that came from Nigeria as visiting visa, she was so lucky the lady is very good to the kids, she does the cleaning of the living room, kitchen, inface her house is always neat, she help to arrange the kids cloths neatly in the cupboard,she take them out, bath,dress and take the four years old girl to school,infact the lady is too much,she even work atimes on Saturday but guess what my friend pays her, only £600. So I was supprised.that is why I am asking. The lady lives in her house. I think why she is paying her that is that the nanny doesn't have paper to work. Even my friend told me that most people in London still pay from £700-£500
In the black labour market, you would even see £450.00. A person on visiting visa, staying in a free house + £600 pcm....... Hit the lottery.....
NB : Going down this route, hopefully all goes well and you would not require legal or civil services.... Or else, alarm go blow....... The world go know wetin una cook wey burn house........
In the black market Labour, you would even see £450.00. A person on visiting visa, staying in a free house + £600 pcm....... Hit the lottery.....
NB : Going down this route, hopefully all goes well and you would not require legal or civil services.... Or else, alarm go blow....... The world go know wetin is cooking wey burn house........
Huh, I believe that is 600 pounds per month...and you call that "hitting the lottery"?...Interesting!
Why I am saying £600 is that a friend of mine that has three kids, one is six, four and the last one is two years, she employed this lady that came from Nigeria as visiting visa, she was so lucky the lady is very good to the kids, she does the cleaning of the living room, kitchen, inface her house is always neat, she help to arrange the kids cloths neatly in the hi take them out, bath,dress and take the four years old girl to school,infact the lady is too much,she even work atimes on Saturday but guess what my friend pays her, only £600. So I was supprised.that is why I am asking. The lady lives in her house. I think why she is paying her that is that the nanny doesn't have paper to work. Even my friend told me that most people in London still pay from £700-£500
I won't advice you to employ an illegal and pay below minimum wage. The moral issues, the possible legal and immigration issues if the government finds out. Just do the right thing , obey the law and avoid trouble
In the black market Labour, you would even see £450.00. A person on visiting visa, staying in a free house + £600 pcm....... Hit the lottery.....
NB : Going down this route, hopefully all goes well and you would not require legal or civil services.... Or else, alarm go blow....... The world go know wetin is cooking wey burn house........
I don't understand pls break it down, is it that the family will be in trouble for using undocumented person? My friend was even telling me yesterday that the nanny wants to overstay her visa, she is still contemplating weather to let her continue working for her,she said the nanny is very good and the kids likes her but her hubby is against her staying, so she might tell the lady to leave end of the month
I don't understand pls break it down, is it that the family will be in trouble for using undocumented person? My friend was even telling me yesterday that the nanny wants to overstay her visa, she is still contemplating weather to let her continue working for her,she said the nanny is very good and the kids likes her but her hubby is against her staying, so she might tell the lady to leave end of the month
You see why I mentioned lottery? I don't blame the husband for having his reservations, likewise I don't blame the wife, for enjoying her services and price and I don't blame the nanny, for attempting to overstay her visa.......
As things stand at the moment, employing her is highly risky (financially and legally).......
Likewise employing her on an expired visa, is also equally risky (legally and financially).......
They all have a decision to make and take, unfortunately I would not decide for them.......
Throwing more light on Childcare services. I live close to Gatwick Airport where we have less 9ja ones. My wife had to stop her job because my job varies day, late & night shift. A friend recommended A baby sitter for me. I also saw the baby sitter on Childcare.co.uk To cut story short, I lend her £100 b4 she start looking after my little one. She failed to pay me back and she was threatening me that she will report me to the police and sue me just because I message her friends, family about her evil act. On my town page on Facebook, I discovered she stole things from kid parents she was looking. She is a Botswana girl. I thank God that she did not look after my kid and that i only lost £100 because she said to me that i should learn not to give my little one to strangers. Am planning of having a permanent afternoon job so that my Mrs can do permanent early job because my kids will be two ✌️ soon and most nanny's over here charges over £12 after tax & N. I
and they have no intention of being turned to childminder/babysitter and they want to enjoy their retirement travelling around the world and living their best life. 
