Martinez19:
Come on!

Presidential election in Nigeria is coming up in Feb and none of you Orange heads are interested but whenever someone says something about Trump, your bp rises up. Trump doesn't give a fvck about you or your independence. If he doesn't care for the minorities in America, I am damn sure he doesn't even think you exist in Nigeria. So, what's your point about losing your sanity over a guy who think of you as SOB ?.

@ LordReed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrVTMAEsFRA

Later, they say we are misinformed and ignorant.

Abbeybailey:
Presidential election is coming up in Feb and none of you Orange heads are interested but whenever someone says something about Trump, your bp rises up. Trump doesn't give a fvck about you or your independence. If he doesn't care for the minorities in America, I am damn sure he doesn't even think you exist in Nigeria. So, what's your point about losing your sanity over a guy who think of you as SOB ?.

ride on!

Martinez19:

Oya watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fowOLskq8E0

Dude she didn't say open border anywhere in this video.

Martinez19:
@ LordReed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrVTMAEsFRA

Later, they say we are misinformed and ignorant.

"We will not have open borders" was what she clearly said. Are you having auditory hallucinations?

MrAkata:


Most Americans are not tired of Trump. The ones who are , are the ill informed cry babies. The media is so corrupted it leads u to believe Trump is racist and unpopular. Reality is a lot o blacks LOVE Trump and all Trump supporters arent racist. Trumps ratings were low when he was elected but he still won. He will win again in 2020 because Democrats are too stupid to do their job. Instead they cry and wine like babies

Be careful with Abbeyba¡ley. He is hopelessly irrational and would support any leftist propaganda and narrative even at the expense of his own life. As usual, since you have common sense, you would always defeat him in every debate and when you do that, he becomes insulting, verbal abusive and degrading(somehow he assumes every Nigerian here is miserable in life). This is always the case and he is incorrigible in this regard.

You would notice that I have stop engaging him. I only discuss with those who are rational and well mannered in their approach.

LordReed:


Dude she didn't say open border anywhere in this video.

Listen again and stop being dishonest.

Martinez19:
Listen again and stop being dishonest.

It is you who is being dishonest or maybe your ears don't work well.

LordReed:


"We will not have open borders" was what she clearly said. Are you having auditory hallucinations?

Did you watch the place the moderator quoted her speech to a Brazilian Bank

"My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, Clinton reportedly said to investors in a paid speech she gave to Brazilian Banco Itau in 2013.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-hillary-clinton-open-borders-kass-1012-20161011-column.html

Hillary Clinton in 2013 said she dreams of a “common market with open trade and open borders,” saying that economic opportunity in the U.S. would grow as a result.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/8/hillary-clinton-dreams-open-borders-leaked-speech-/

LordReed:


It is you who is being dishonest or maybe your ears don't work well.

That video can you watch between 0.40 and 0.52 and tell what was said

raumdeuter:


Did you watch the place the moderator quoted her speech to a Brazilian Bank

"My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, Clinton reportedly said to investors in a paid speech she gave to Brazilian Banco Itau in 2013.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-hillary-clinton-open-borders-kass-1012-20161011-column.html

Hillary Clinton in 2013 said she dreams of a “common market with open trade and open borders,” saying that economic opportunity in the U.S. would grow as a result.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/8/hillary-clinton-dreams-open-borders-leaked-speech-/

And her clarifying statement that she was referring to energy meant nothing to you?

LordReed:


It is you who is being dishonest or maybe your ears don't work well.

Lol. Stop lying. She supported open borders in that video. Listen again. Abbeyba¡ley at this point usually starts his insults but it seems your own is perpetual denial.

LordReed:
And her clarifying statement that she was referring to energy meant nothing to you?

What she says in front of investors at a private event is what holds more water here. Everyone will deny a bad statement in public

Martinez19:
Lol. Stop lying. She supported open borders in that video. Listen again. Abbeyba¡ley at this point usually starts his insults but it seems your own is perpetual denial.

Denial of what? There was not a peep about open borders in that video yet I am the one in denial. Give the statement in the video if she did.

raumdeuter:


What she says in front of investors at a private event is what holds more water here. Everyone will deny a bad statement in public

Yes when a statement is taken out of context it should be clarified. You Repubs would shout bloody murder if it was your own you were defending.

LordReed:


Denial of what? There was not a peep about open borders in that video yet I am the one in denial. Give the statement in the video if she did.

That video can you watch between 0.40 and 0.52 and tell what was said

LordReed:
Yes, when a statement is taken out of context it should be clarified. You Repubs would shout bloody murder if it was your own you were defending.

She did not deny the statement, She was trying to explain why she said it and at the end of the video, she was trying to pivot away. And rope in WikiLeaks and espionage when the conversation was about Open borders

raumdeuter:


That video can you watch between 0.40 and 0.52 and tell what was said

Don't mind him. .

raumdeuter:


That video can you watch between 0.40 and 0.52 and tell what was said

Transcribed below:

"It validates what some of these terrorists are saying. We need to isolate them, we need to defeat them on the ground and we need to defeat them in the air"

So where is the open border in this statement?

raumdeuter:


She did not deny the statement, She was trying to explain why she said it and at the end of the video, she was trying to pivot away. And rope in WikiLeaks and espionage when the conversation was about Open borders

The comment was about "hemispheric common market" and she pointed out the source is attempting to muddy the waters, very necessary to the conversation.

LordReed:


Transcribed below:

"It validates what some of these terrorists are saying. We need to isolate them, we need to defeat them on the ground and we need to defeat them in the air"

So where is the open border in this statement?

And you said that you watched it

0.40 to 0.52 was the moderators question. What was the moderators question

Did at any time, Hillary made a statement on Open borders

The question of the moderator. What was it?

raumdeuter:


The question of the moderator. What was it

That was a different video. There are 2 videos I responded to. The first one is the one I said she didn't say anything about open borders. The second I responded to you about her clarifying statement.

LordReed:


Transcribed below:

"It validates what some of these terrorists are saying. We need to isolate them, we need to defeat them on the ground and we need to defeat them in the air"

So where is the open border in this statement?

0:20 - 0:37 of the same video. Let me put you out of your misery. Listen very well this time around.

BraniacX:

You call others lunatics and term yourself sane! How rich of you! so in your economics textbooks, recession is a product of wishing or wills and not a possible postulation of consequences of actions or inactions regarding pertinent economic indices deduced from past observations? Oya sane trumpanzee go and wave your wishing wand and bequeath America continual economic growth under trump! Sane my foot!

I never said anywhere that recession is a product of wishes so I don't know what you are yapping about. I just condemned a lunatic who was wishing for a recession. Is this not a perfect example of the liberal foolishness I spoke about? It seems being a liberal and being sane are mutually exclusive, you can't be one and be the other at the same time

Martinez19:
0:20 - 0:37 of the same video. Let me put you out of your misery. Listen very well this time around.

Transcribed below

"And we got to do what works. And it doesnt work to act like we are about to shut our borders and pull up the gangplank"

So where is the open borders? You really must be hallucinating.

Anduku:

I never said anywhere that recession is a product of wishes so I don't know what you are yapping about. I just condemned a lunatic who was wishing for a recession. Is this not a perfect example of the liberal foolishness I spoke about? It seems being a liberal and being sane are mutually exclusive, you can't be one and be the other at the same time

They are so anti-Trump that they were not happy that a nuclear war did not happen with North Korea to make Trump look bad. Can you imagine? They also wanted an economic recession for the same reason. How anti-Trump can one get?

LordReed:


Transcribed below

"And we got to do what works. And it doesnt work to act like we are about to shut our borders and pull up the gangplank"

So where is the open borders? You really must be hallucinating.

Your case is beyond repair. Bye bye.

Anduku:

I never said anywhere that recession is a product of wishes so I don't know what you are yapping about. I just condemned a lunatic who was wishing for a recession. Is this not a perfect example of the liberal foolishness I spoke about? It seems being a liberal and being sane are mutually exclusive, you can't be one and be the other at the same time

If wishing for a recession can't result into one then what's your grouse mbok? I repeat what's your grouse? From what I've read about your comments and that of some other characters, you're classic examples of trying to be more catholic than the pope! You, i and many others are Nigerians resident in Nigeria and you have a political party you support in America lols or is it a political ideology you espouse to? conservatism abi? Since you repeatedly condemn alleged liberals, if you tag me a liberal, i readily accept and own up to being a liberal i.e open minded to better ways of doing things but only and only a Nigerian liberal so in your case, what does being a Nigerian conservative mean? See why i insist you're not qualified to judge anybody's sanity? You can't espouse to a political ideology in a country where you have no stake and no say and lack one in your own country where you have a stake and a say, it is like being more concerned about what happens in your neighbor's bedroom while you have a sexually unsatisfied wife!
See what i have done? I didn't mention political parties whether democrats or republicans because for either of us to claim to belong to anyone of either would be sheer stupidity but something tells me that sometime, somewhere you must have proffessed one which in my definition makes you effing ...................... You can fill in the blank space

Vinstel:

And where in his write up did you see him say that recession is a product of wishes? It will do you well to read a post properly before jumping to respond to it. Abbeybailey has been wishing for a recession in the US just so he can have something to bash Trump with and he called him out for it, simple. That doesn't mean that just because he wished then it must happen. That's what it will remain, an unfulfilled wish! Because no recession is going to happen in the US. In fact, for the past five days, the economic indices have been on an upward swing so those evil people praying for a recession should better forget it. It isn't happening.

If according to you, they're mere wishes not supported by any concurrent economic realities then i ask you too, WHAT DA BLUIDY HELL IS YOUR GROUSE? see? If i wish for purple unicorns or a volcanic eruption or maybe a shift in the tectonic plates with resultant earthquakes which you know to be implausible, you'd ignore me but if you know my wishes to be in the realm of possibility, then your reaction will be more understandable, so if it is nothing but mere wishing not corroborated by wall street pundits and/or the feds and/or economic analysts why does this mere wishing discomfit you guys so? Why does it not evoke only the type of reaction my wishing for a purple unicorn does? Why the consternation? Or maybe there's some truth to the alternate theory that it is more than a plausibility

Martinez19:
Your case is beyond repair. Bye bye.

Go and get your hallucinations checked by a doctor, I hear brain damage can be the cause.

BraniacX:

If wishing for a recession can't result into one then what's your grouse mbok? I repeat what's your grouse? From what I've read about your comments and that of some other characters, you're classic examples of trying to be more catholic than the pope! You, i and many others are Nigerians resident in Nigeria and you have a political party you support in America lols or is it a political ideology you espouse to? conservatism abi? Since you repeatedly condemn alleged liberals, if you tag me a liberal, i readily accept and own up to being a liberal i.e open minded to better ways of doing things but only and only a Nigerian liberal so in your case, what does being a Nigerian conservative mean? See why i insist you're not qualified to judge anybody's sanity? You can't espouse to a political ideology in a country where you have no stake and no say and lack one in your own country where you have a stake and a say, it is like being more concerned about what happens in your neighbor's bedroom while you have a sexually unsatisfied wife!
See what i have done? I didn't mention political parties whether democrats or republicans because for either of us to claim to belong to anyone of either would be sheer stupidity but something tells me that sometime, somewhere you must have proffessed one which in my definition makes you effing ...................... You can fill in the blank space

Very nice attempt at pivoting away from the fact that you totally goofed in your earlier post by trying to pin on me something I never said, bravo. I read your entire post and I struggle to understand the point you are making. What is my grouse with what? Someone wishing for a recession? I guess if someone comes out tomorrow to wish you were killed then we should applaud him because wishes don't kill people? Then as for your insinuating I am not supposed to have a party or ideology I support in the US because I live in Nigeria, my question is then what are you doing on this thread yourself? Seeing as this thread was opened to discuss American politics, then you shouldn't be here since you live in Nigeria. You have been here attacking Trump but you turn around to tell me I can't support him or the GOP because I live in Nigeria. Only and only a Nigerian liberal indeed!!! On an American politics thread, attacking the President of the US and taking sides in a debate about a border wall in the US? You're a bloody Hypocrite!!! As for filling in that blank space of yours? I guess SMART is the word you are looking for

PDPGuy:


20 or 30 Democrats could announce their run for the White House.
But by July or August, when there would have been at least 4 primary debates, the field would narrow down to five/six candidates. The competition for campaign cash from a finite number of wealthy donors, and small donors would also aid in winnowing the field.

Then, after the first four nominating contests in February 2020, and Super Tuesday on March 3, 2020.
the field would most likely be down to three candidates because those who do not finish in the top two positions in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, or South Carolina or in ten Super Tuesday states would flame out fast.

I’ll go on a limb to predict the last five candidates standing would be Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Julian Castro, Kirsten Gillibrand.

...and the possibility of a sixth candidate, in the person of Joe Biden - health permitting...