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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by pyrex23(m): 8:56pm On Jan 04, 2019
BascoVanVeli:



IMO Villarreal are more likely to win the Europa league than get relegated.
Which europa

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 8:57pm On Jan 04, 2019
Oasis007:


grin

I guess you won't be the first to call him out as an overrated Kid if.... God forbids, he fails to making first XI after the Move?! You call it a defeatist Mentality, I call it a realist Mentality.

Yeah..... It's good to be an Optimist, but I'm more of a Realist than an Optimist. I vividly remember when thegoodjoe was vehemently against Iheanacho leaving Man City, some of us called him Names, but Today he's vindicated.
He left City for playing time because he wanted to remain with the national team.

You can't make WC list with all those 5 and 10mins appearances.

He made the choice.How are you sure he is in Pep's plan?He even broke record of being the 1st 4th sub in the FA cup.

A young player needs at least 70mins of real match action every week to develop.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 9:12pm On Jan 04, 2019
Omeruo starts for Leganes. Am not sure Moses Simon was in match day squad for levante today
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:12pm On Jan 04, 2019
komekn:


It is indicative and not conclusive, it can only indicate age range and not give you specific.

That's misinformation.

Without AUTOMATIC BIRTH DATA CAPTURE there is no way to officially substantiate age in Nigeria. That does not mean he is not 19. Just that we have no official government sourced corroboration.


So because we do not have "official government sourced corroboration" we should stop playing football?Nobody has said the MRI gives exact age. I know how it works relative to bone fussion and expected age of fussion. The MRI, with a reliability rating of 90%, is the best we have for now in curbing age cheating. So deal with that.

For those claiming Chukwueze is 25/26 or 22/23 I said it before and I will say it again that I have a valid system that tells me Chukwueze is about the age he claims. Anybody who feels otherwise and has valid evidence should Come and arrest me.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 9:21pm On Jan 04, 2019
Curtisaxel7:


If you suspect you have a certain illness, who do you go to? A medical expert, right?.

As I mentioned earlier, my mum is a veteran immigration officer. This kind of thing is what they deal with everyday. This is her field of expertise. Immigration officers are highly and specially trained for this kind of stuff....anybody who's ever been to an embassy interview can testify.

However, I must state that her conclusion was reached based on the very limited evidence I presented to her. One picture is hardly enough material for anybody to draw conclusions from. She may have a different opinion if she were to meet and interact with Chukwueze.

Case closed
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by oloriooko(m): 9:23pm On Jan 04, 2019
Whether Chuks is 50 or15 the dude is superb and he's having the swell of his life now.
You all can argue all you want but the guy don blow

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:30pm On Jan 04, 2019
ChrisKels:


Chai like dis now, u no go dey give me my maximum for here again nah grin grin

About ur boy, my regards. Tell him not to depend so much on anybody, not even his dad. Tell him to hustle hard on his own, and see whatever help that comes from the side as a bonus. That will help him grow quickly and survive easily on his own.

On ur own, do well to be a good father buh never fail to make him understand life aint no bed of roses.

The street is military.

Cc krattoss anye oo!!

Wow, this is your best post in 2019 thus far. wink

Nice words of wisdom. Thanks.

That issue of street being military I can identify with that o. But one thing is sure, God rewards hardwork and persistency.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:34pm On Jan 04, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
After watching the Manchester City vs Liverpool game, you can see how much work rate and intensity have become a big part of the modern game.

A player who played a big part in the Manchester City win was Bernardo Silva who covered every blade of the pitch in record time.

This is why I am against us building our game with conservation but work more on building a team that play all games with high intensity.

“Bernardo is incredible. I’ve not seen a performance like that, in all terms, in a long time.
“He’s clean, he’s clever, he fought against Van Dijk. He was incredible,” Guardiola told Sky Sports.


http://dailypost.ng/2019/01/04/epl-guardiola-singles-one-man-city-player-victory-liverpool/

Guardiola echoed my thoughts. That was the best midfield performance I have ever seen in my life by Bernardo Silva against Liverpool.

Something I hope our youngsters picked a thing or two from. A player with unbelievable stamina and work rate is vital to any team and can hardly be dropped on the bench.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 9:38pm On Jan 04, 2019
Oasis007:


grin

I guess you won't be the first to call him out as an overrated Kid if.... God forbids, he fails to making first XI after the Move?! You call it a defeatist Mentality, I call it a realist Mentality.

Yeah..... It's good to be an Optimist, but I'm more of a Realist than an Optimist. I vividly remember when thegoodjoe was vehemently against Iheanacho leaving Man City, some of us called him Names, but Today he's vindicated.

Forget bro.... If KC is by chance still at city at the moment, he would be probably playing more with with Academy players

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:41pm On Jan 04, 2019
Curtisaxel7:


If you suspect you have a certain illness, who do you go to? A medical expert, right?.

As I mentioned earlier, my mum is a veteran immigration officer. This kind of thing is what they deal with everyday. This is her field of expertise. Immigration officers are highly and specially trained for this kind of stuff....anybody who's ever been to an embassy interview can testify.

However, I must state that her conclusion was reached based on the very limited evidence I presented to her. One picture is hardly enough material for anybody to draw conclusions from. She may have a different opinion if she were to meet and interact with Chukwueze.

You may wonder why I stick out my neck most times for some of these boy. Aside watching them on TV and seeing their pictures on the internet, I have been on the practice pitch with some of them. You really need to see these boys physically to really appreciate how young they are.

ChrisKels just pointed our how small Chukwueze looked when he met him on the pitch in 2016.

I know we had an era of age cheating but the MRI has ensured that most of our U17 products were actually U17.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:44pm On Jan 04, 2019
BascoVanVeli:



IMO Villarreal are more likely to win the Europa league than get relegated.
grin. I comment my Reserve.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:44pm On Jan 04, 2019
Icon4s:


The Chilean side you mentioned go compare the intensity with which they played with top clubs in Europe.

The only time national teams can play with intensity close to club sides are at the advanced stages of major tournaments. By then the team would have built more cohesion having stayed longer in camp and played through the group stages.

You do not expect such intensities with WC or AFCON qualifiers where teams have barely 4-5 days in camp

And again I remind you that club Football is different from national team Football. Always have this vital fact at the back of your mind. Take this from the coaching angle.


Chile used a weird, wonderful 3-4-1-2 system. Eduardo Vargas and Alexis Sanchez played up front, Arturo Vidal was an aggressive No. 10 and Francisco Silva came in at centre-back.


Press, Press, Press

Chile pressed high up the pitch from the word go, committing men forward to closing down and appearing willing to leave gaps in midfield.

Aranguiz and Marcelo Diaz, playing as a midfield two in vast swathes of space, did superbly to motor around, close off angles and pressure passes that slipped through the first line of pressure.




The pressing of Chile under Bielsa and Sampaoli is as good as any top side in club football. The football of Chile under these geniuses was breathtaking and I think suited the players.

You do not achieve this in 4-5 days in camp but long-term planning. That is why I will always kick against the must win game ideology but support a must build a fluid, quality attacking team over a targeted time limit.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2101884-spain-vs-chile-sampaolis-high-press-high-intensity-gameplan-destroys-la-roja.amp.html

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:50pm On Jan 04, 2019
Icon4s:


The Chilean side you mentioned go compare the intensity with which they played with top clubs in Europe.

The only time national teams can play with intensity close to club sides are at the advanced stages of major tournaments. By then the team would have built more cohesion having stayed longer in camp and played through the group stages.

You do not expect such intensities with WC or AFCON qualifiers where teams have barely 4-5 days in camp

And again I remind you that club Football is different from national team Football. Always have this vital fact at the back of your mind. Take this from the coaching angle.

I do not expect club football to be the same with National football, that is why long-term planning is critical to the success of great teams. Look at the likes of Spain, Belgium, Germany and France. For years, they keep working on a plan and developing it.

Thinking we can skip the hard work and eat the cake will not take us anywhere. We keep running in circles because we are not ready to do it right.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:55pm On Jan 04, 2019
Utonwanne:


Forget bro.... If KC is by chance still at city at the moment, he would be probably playing more with with Academy players

I totally disagree with you. We have lots of games and very limited upfront with Aguero and Gabby Jesus. Gabby had injured, so did Aguero. Nacho's challenge was blending with the system which would come with time. He might even play other roles as we have seen with Delph, Laporte, Zinchenko, Stones, Danillo etc.

We needed Nacho.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:57pm On Jan 04, 2019
Hahaha the kind rush when people use take enter 2019 eh, e go be like say dey want make the new year finish quick quick.

do4luv14:




the way arguments dey fly here ehn, wey we Neva even finish the first week of dis new year,

you go bin wonda, if nah December we still dey grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:00pm On Jan 04, 2019
We dey come o — Dino Melaye lol
Icon4s:


So because we do not have "official government sourced corroboration" we should stop playing football?Nobody has said the MRI is gives exact age. I know how it works relative to bone fussion and expected age of fussion. The MRI, with a reliability rating of 90%, is the best we have for now in curbing age cheating. So deal with that.

For those clamming Chukwueze is 25/26 or 22/23 I said it before and I will say it again that I have a valid system that tells me Chukwueze is about the age he claims. Anybody who feels otherwise and has valid evidence should Come and arrest me.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:01pm On Jan 04, 2019
raindodger13:
Concerning Chukwueze, he's an amazing prospect but I'm wary of him jumping the gun and playing for a Real Madrid or Borussia Dortmund so fast, the reason being that he would likely be relagated to the bench.
At the rate that his value is increasing he needs to constantly be on the pitch so that his young fiery play isn't quenched.

I wish him all the best. He says he wants to be the next Arjen Robben, but he's 19 with a high talent ceiling. I want him to aim to be greater than Arjen Robben ever was. Keep playing with that hunger and strive to add more skills to your weaponry Chukwueze, your are arriving but you're not where you could be yet. cool

If Dortmund comes for Chukwueze seriously, he should take it with both hands. Their football is a perfect fit for his ability and the club gets it right with young players. Their recent handling of Jadon Sancho is phenomenal. They have played in a brave fashion for a very long time and will bring out the best in him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:04pm On Jan 04, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


I do not expect club football to be the same with National football, that is why long-term planning is critical to the success of great teams. Look at the likes of Spain, Belgium, Germany and France. For years, they keep working on a plan and developing it.

Thinking we can skip the hard work and eat the cake will not take us anywhere. We keep running in circles because we are not ready to do it right.

That longevity of coaching crew with a long-term program is what we always strive for. But what happens when the coach fails to get results? He gets fired and we move on to the next coach. I am glad the NFF has kept Rohr. Let's see how far he can push the team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 10:05pm On Jan 04, 2019
andrew444:


They are not firminho but they are better than solanke

Calum wilson is already an england international linked with a 25million move to chelsea, being an england international and playing for bournemouth says alot,i repeat my self those guys are better than him.

Dont even talk of firminho and salah, even ordinary origi is ahead of solanke at liverpool thats says alot, you think origi is a better playing than calum wilson a player that can score 14 or 15 epl goal a season?

He might fight it out with joshua king

But calum wilson cannot be bench at bournemouth

Wilson is injury prone.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 10:06pm On Jan 04, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


I totally disagree with you. We have lots of games and very limited upfront with Aguero and Gabby Jesus. Gabby had injured, so did Aguero. Nacho's challenge was blending with the system which would come with time. He might even play other roles as we have seen with Delph, Laporte, Zinchenko, Stones, Danillo etc.

We needed Nacho.

And what are the roles?

CM? LB? LW? grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:08pm On Jan 04, 2019
Utonwanne:


And what are the roles?

CM? LB? LW? grin grin





Guardiola is that creative and his methods bring out the best and develop players.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 10:09pm On Jan 04, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


If Dortmund comes for Chukwueze seriously, he should take it with both hands. Their football is a perfect fit for his ability and the club gets it right with young players. Their recent handling of Jadon Sancho is phenomenal. They have played in a brave fashion for a very long time and will bring out the best in him.

Seconded!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:10pm On Jan 04, 2019
Icon4s:


That longevity of coaching crew with a long-term program is what we always strive for. But what happens when the coach fails to get results? He gets fired and we move on to the next coach. I am glad the NFF has kept Rohr. Let's see how far he can push the team.

I am glad the NFF is hinging on a long-term managerial system but certainly not the kind of manager. From the time with Rohr, we can see he is not a creative attacking coach that will have the team playing with bravery and intensity. That is my problem.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 10:14pm On Jan 04, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Guardiola is that creative and his methods bring out the best and develop players.

Guardiola is creative,,, YES

he prefers left footed,,, YES

He loves those that can hug ball and dribble....Thats where Nacho is lacking.....

It is not easy to improve Nacho

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:19pm On Jan 04, 2019
BascoVanVeli:


His contract expires in 6 months but his clause could be met today if he wants to go

Wow !!! The world is his oyster the ABSOLUTE best position to be.

Absolutely no need to move until the summer at his young age no transfer fee, a free agent.

He is about to become stupidly rich, l am amazed that Villarreal could be so slack in thier player management.

Before you let an academy player play first team you usually sign them up on a long term contract. Even if you don't think the player is that good. You commit them to long term contract speculatively.

Villareal have been very foolish and Chukwueze had been very wise.

Right now they Villarreal need him more than he does, they can not even put any pressure on Chukwueze to sign a new contract.

He could easily get £100k a week come the summer if he continues as he does.

Similar situation with Josh Maja at Sunderland they cannot put pressure on him by denying him game time. It's too late they need him more than he does. Even offering to increase his income in a multiple of 7. So it doesn't matter for Josh he cam go now or he can go in the Summer. All the £££ is coming to him and it will be in the EPL.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 10:20pm On Jan 04, 2019
andrew444:


Leave Ozil,he have issues

Assist are hard most times ,you might build up so many good goals and the credit will be given to the assister and the scorer.

Calum Wilson won't end at 9 goals

Never can tell, Calum Wilson has had injury problems, it could rear its ugly head again, no one can tell.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:20pm On Jan 04, 2019
Utonwanne:


Guardiola is creative,,, YES

he prefers left footed,,, YES

He loves those that can hug ball and dribble....Thats where Nacho is lacking.....

It is not easy to improve Nacho

No one says it is easy to improve a player. It takes a lot of hard work and commitment. However, we have seen players improve steadily under him. From the likes of Sane, Sterling, Otamendi, Stones, Delph etc.

Working under such training environment would have clearly improved Nacho.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:23pm On Jan 04, 2019
pyrex23:

Which europa


Yes Villarreal can win the Europa. Their form so far makes them among the favorites.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 10:25pm On Jan 04, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


No one says it is easy to improve a player. It takes a lot of hard work and commitment. However, we have seen players improve steadily under him. From the likes of Sane, Sterling, Otamendi, Stones, Delph etc.

Working under such training environment would have clearly improved Nacho.

Lack of Guardiola is not Nacho's problem.

Those ones you mentioned above are good even before Guardiola grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 10:26pm On Jan 04, 2019
Icon4s:


O boy forget that thing. Not when the Gap is so much grin. Yours is even closer to my first son's than mine grin grin grin

Ha! Baba agba, mo juba fun e.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:30pm On Jan 04, 2019
Utonwanne:


Lack of Guardiola is not Nacho's problem.

Those ones you mentioned above are good even before Guardiola grin

Nacho was also brilliant before Guardiola and had some good games playing for Guardiola. Keep in mind Guardiola started Iheanacho in one of the Manchester Derbies.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 10:37pm On Jan 04, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Nacho was also brilliant before Guardiola and had some good games playing for Guardiola. Keep in mind Guardiola started Iheanacho in one of the Manchester Derbies.

Yes, he assisted the first goal to KDB but has started regressing even before then....

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