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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 3:41pm On Jan 06, 2019
[quote author=BabaOwen post=74503136]
"It was also gathered that the group, after taking Baga, had been making consistent attempts to overrun Monguno (64km from Baga and 171km to Maiduguri). But they have been repeatedly beaten by the Army’s Special Forces deployed in the town.

Many of the insurgents have lost their lives in the hands of the elite troops defending the town, sources said. They also said that over 200 of them were killed by Nigerien forces as they moved towards the neighbouring country after they were repelled from Monguno".
Army SF is doing very well

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 3:45pm On Jan 06, 2019
[quote author=BabaOwen post=7450313
"Sources said at the time of the fight last week, only Nigerian troops were at the base as forces from Chad, Cameroon and Niger had for long withdrawn and were only manning their own sides of the borders'
If this report is correct, then WTF is the use of the MNJTF... Nigeria should just consider the other countries as possible reinforcement.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EVarn(m): 3:50pm On Jan 06, 2019
GeneralFarouq:
[quote author=BabaOwen post=7450313
"Sources said at the time of the fight last week, only Nigerian troops were at the base as forces from Chad, Cameroon and Niger had for long withdrawn and were only manning their own sides of the borders'
If this report is correct, then WTF is the use of the MNJTF... Nigeria should just consider the other countries as possible reinforcement.
Those stvpid countries don't see this crisis as a regional problem, they are still seeing it as a Nigerian problem.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 5:47pm On Jan 06, 2019
bidexiii:
#NAF
#C130 COCKPIT

The Herc has +60 years of medium lift bad assery.
Denel did a major upgrade of our 9 Hercs to the BZ standard under Project Ebb, starting in 1996 to 2009 and adding 20 more years to the fleet.

PIC: before and after pics of SAAF C-130 cockpits.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 7:00pm On Jan 06, 2019
GeneralFarouq:

The kits are Ur personal plroperty right?
Is a soldier allowed to buy personal hand gun for use in battlefield, NV... And even his own Kevlar vest


It's not possible to buy u personnel gun for use in the battlefield.

I know of buying some accesories and kits online but not a firearm.

You need to go through the police to get a fire arm permit either as a civilian or military/security agencies but I think as a military man it should be easier.

https://www.wikiprocedure.com/index.php/Nigeria_-_Obtain_a_Gun_license
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 7:05pm On Jan 06, 2019
Update on ISWAP attack on Damasak.
Update: Multiple sources said #Nigeriantroops successfully repelled an #ISWAP attack last night, killing scores of the attackers and burning down at least 5 of their trucks. ISWAP, curiously, has not issued a statement, apparently because they suffered defeat.
Credit: A. Salkida
Kudos to our troops for a job well done.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 7:05pm On Jan 06, 2019
Sizzorkay:
See that NAF base, why so much vegetation, they really should cut those trees down and have clear line of sight, then again, what do i know, before you know it boko don sneak reach gate undecided


jakeporeshenko:


This is Tactical air command Markurdi, Boko boys aren’t anywhere close to this base.

Seeing this is a discussion thread, I'll chime in, using my little experience in the South African military. The South African Air Force, like our other services, has always prepared its bases for defence for almost 100 years now. One never knows!

Whilst the Boko arseholes might not threaten Markurdi now, what happens should they do so? Look at the NA, their FOBs have been overrun so easily because the prevailing thought behind their construction was so deficient.

2) To pursue Jakes' point about the temporal nature of the threat, what happens to that base when a peer conducts either an air assault or a special forces raid?

Again, using the SA military: throughout our bush wars fought over 1 thousand km away in ostensibly other people's territory, our home bases were and are on a posture that allows defence.

Lest someone say ancient history (1975-1990), recent examples: Burundi, Central African Republic(CAR), Comoros, Congo, Sudan, not a single one of our bases has been overrun. Not for any reason but we practice over and over again the basics: all bases have to be designed with the enemy either achieving match or over.

a) In the Sudan (Darfur), the rebels could not overrun any of our FOBs, despite having an advantage in numbers;

b) a company sized FOB in the Congo recently repelled a battalion of the enemy dressed as friendly forces with nothing heavier than 4 x 81mm mortars and 4 x .50 cal MGs. An FOB constructed for defence, with only 3 points, beyond artillery support from sector HQ, held out till ground and air support arrived.

Many misunderstand doctrine and think of all sorts of highfalutin concepts. It simply means how do you plan to fight.
The Nigerian military's, at the moment, is a mystery. Both to outside observers and to those of your officers with whom I've interacted.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 7:11pm On Jan 06, 2019
CaptainStephen:
let him pass out from Academy first grin


grin grin grin grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 7:11pm On Jan 06, 2019
bidexiii:



It's not possible to buy u personnel gun for use in the battlefield.

I know of buying some accesories and kits online but not a firearm.

You need to go through the police to get a fire arm permit either as a civilian or military/security agencies but I think as a military man it should be easier.

https://www.wikiprocedure.com/index.php/Nigeria_-_Obtain_a_Gun_license
Alright thanks.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 7:14pm On Jan 06, 2019
Xbee007:
Update on ISWAP attack on Damasak.

Kudos to our troops for a job well done.

Honestly it's so so annoying that the NA PR are not doing a good job reporting our gallant troops success so far... undecided

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ocelot2006(m): 7:52pm On Jan 06, 2019
jakeporeshenko:

Roadblocks set up by indigenous people

They may have been our enemies in the past, but You've got to admire the gear of the Cameroonian BIR.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kikuyu1(m): 7:56pm On Jan 06, 2019
nemesis8u:
Sometimes I wonder buying 100 weaponized md500/ah 6 helicopters would have made sense @ 2+ million each to complement the mi series


I advocated the same some time back. Two squadrons of 500s or 530s at 5mn USD each as light gunship/ recon to ID targets and call in the Mi 35s/alphas and f 7s.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by LTGEN: 8:12pm On Jan 06, 2019
Ahmed Salkida is reporting
BH suffered heavy casualties this weekend
Five Technicals lost.
They were repelled.
Location where heavy fighting took place has not been disclosed.
However Heavy fighting has been going on in the Damask Area.
Bidexxi We need pictures.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kikuyu1(m): 8:13pm On Jan 06, 2019
nemesis8u:


Brand new

It's production line is always on for civilian market supply so my best guess 1 year from contract signature , entire 100 within 1 and half year from start of delivery.

Even 6 months possible if demanded , by rerouting civilian ones to military standards, they r simple so not much headache.

True! Look at the Afghanistan air force, though its typically used as army aviation.


"According to a MD Helicopters press release, the first deliveries under the contract will be 30 MD 530Fs for an estimated $177 million. The[url][/url] first part of the order is expected to be completed by September 2019"

https://googleweblight.com/i?u=https://thediplomat.com/2017/09/afghanistan-to-get-150-scout-helicopters-by-2022/&hl=en-KE

BTW,this is a massive 150 ship order ending in 2022.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ocelot2006(m): 8:21pm On Jan 06, 2019
nemesis8u:


Main body and rotor can withstand hit to an extent

But coaxial tail rotors at the rear any damage to it or the transmission boom ie the long tail , helicopter has no option but to descent fast otherwise the whole helicopter will go into a uncontrollable spin to the ground.


But are NAF Attack help pilots not taught how to counter autorotation? I don't mean any disrespect to those fallen heros though. God knows the limited seconds they had to control their damaged helicopter in a raging battle before the helo crashed. May their souls rest in peace.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 8:27pm On Jan 06, 2019
grin And you should stop typing in all caps.
What assumptions did i jump to? Those were pics of BIR, and i point out that the BIR are specialized units, aren't they? And what if they are 3,000 strong? How hard is it to kit 3,000 men, seriously?
And your pic of actual Cameroonian soldiers means? What battle zone was that taken from? How many of them were deployed to that battle zone? a few hundred? Unless you are new here, i think we've all seen regular NA troops very well kitted in battle as well.
Why are some of you guys bent on belittling our troops?
When Cameroon have tens of thousands of troops to kit and feed, let me know and show us pics of how they kit them in ongoing battle, actual battle, not chasing around guys with machetes in the woods .
fabselad:

LOL STOP JUMPING INTO ASSUMPTIONS PLEASE.DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY BIR SOLDIERS ARE THERE.CLOSE TO 3000.LET ME POST SOME PICS OF CAMEROONIAN SOLDIERS IN BATTLE GEAR IN WAR ZONE.
THOSE ARE "NORMAL SOLDIERS" grin grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ocelot2006(m): 8:29pm On Jan 06, 2019
kikuyu1:


I advocated the same some time back. Two squadrons of 500s or 530s at 5mn USD each as light gunship/ recon to ID targets and call in the Mi 35s/alphas and f 7s.

Why not just reactivate and upgrade our Bo-105s to serve as light gunships and a few as LUHs for SOCOM?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 8:31pm On Jan 06, 2019
NIGERIAN AIR FORCE HELICOPTER GUNSHIP DESTROYS TERRORISTS’ GUN TRUCKS IN NIGHT RAID NEAR DAMASAK IN NORTHERN BORNO STATE

The Air Task Force (ATF) of Operation LAFIYA DOLE has destroyed some Islamic State of West Africa Province (ISWAP) gun trucks in air strikes conducted near Damasak in Northern Borno State. The attacks were executed yesterday, 5 January 2019, whilst providing close air support for ground troops at Damasak who were in pursuit of the terrorists who had attempted to breach their location. The Nigerian Air Force (NAF) Mi-35M Helicopter Gunship engaged the group of terrorists’ gun trucks in successive waves of attacks as they retreated, destroying and immobilizing 3 of them while causing significant damage to others and neutralizing several terrorists.


IBIKUNLE DARAMOLA
Air Commodore
Director of Public Relations and Information
Nigerian Air Force

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XRj6eiZcDU
One of NAF's best video so far. It was a wooping 6mb shocked shocked I don't recall seeing any NAF video with that quality. Impressive!!!
Cc. LtGen

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kikuyu1(m): 8:32pm On Jan 06, 2019
AlhajiYoung:
Base on my analysis the main differences are:

Mi-24v - is design wit a Chin mounted quad-barrel 12.7mm main gun

MI-35p - has a side mounted dual-barrel 30mm main gun

MI-35m - also has a Chin mounted dual-barrel 23mm main gun.

MI-35m & MI-35p are both from Russia.

Mi-24v is from the Ukraine which his the export variant of the Mi35

Both the Mi24 and Mi35P are in service with NAF

IMO, they should be with your army aviation! Not the NAF-in an aircav or similar specialist unit like our own 50 aircav. Developing doctrine and calling support without inter service rivalry is thus non existent.

FYI,in Korea it often took 12-24 hrs for the USAF to respond to urgent CAS calls! That's why they ,the USMC, developed their own tacair.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 8:39pm On Jan 06, 2019
ocelot2006:


Why not just reactivate and upgrade our Bo-105s to serve as light gunships and a few as LUHs for SOCOM?
Do you know the conditions of the Bo-105s? they've been boxed up for years
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 8:43pm On Jan 06, 2019
kikuyu1:


IMO, they should be with your army aviation! Not the NAF-in an aircav or similar specialist unit like our own 50 aircav. Developing doctrine and calling support without inter service rivalry is thus non existent.

FYI,in Korea it often took 12-24 hrs for the USAF to respond to urgent CAS calls! That's why they ,the USMC, developed their own tacair.
It will strain NA budget unnecessarily.


IMO the Army wouldn't be getting any aviation assets. We should learn Joint-service synergy.

I prefer Army Air Liaison officers to help coordinate fires from above

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kikuyu1(m): 8:44pm On Jan 06, 2019
prolog2:
Russia is ready to sell better war planes for less money with a shorter delivery period, but we must buy American products, right ? I am almost certain the Americans will never deliver. Let us just keep dreaming and wasting our time.

Sir,pls provide links on those Vlad planes and price.
Thanks!
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by BlackBaron: 8:50pm On Jan 06, 2019
Xbee007:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XRj6eiZcDU

Cc. LtGen
Now that's an asset we saw very little about. BH were used to evening raids which meant demure responses from the airforce cos of night capabilities.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kikuyu1(m): 9:28pm On Jan 06, 2019
allexpensive:


Or maybe lack of discipline. That's what I have noticed. The military job Is not meant to be comfortable, you just have to adapt to it. Some of my boys leave their gear in the vehicle because they feel it's extra wahala. I didn't complain till we got back and I made it known to my superior who corrected them.

However, apologies to captainstephen. NA boys seems not to have this morale and discipline naturally and feel they can fight like the the enemies with boot, shirt and riffle alone. I have seen several military gear left behind during patrol due to soldiers negligence. I feel the Army brass should enforce strict disciplinary actions towards any soldier in a bad fatigue in public pictures.

I haven't been hit before but I am very sure the vest has saved serval lives. I don't even joke with my head gear.

NGAAIIEE or CHAAIIEE as you guys say! Your guys abandon personal gear in the field due to fatigue,iow,lack of proper physical fitness??
My,my,my.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 9:51pm On Jan 06, 2019
One puzzle I'm yet to unravel is how most American soldiers with heavy kits/body armour which even limits agility, still pile up casualties. One is left to wonder what's the essence of those heavy gear(atimes are up to 50pounds) if they're not keeping the soldiers save putting into cognizance the rounds being fired by Talibans(Ak 46).
Korengal/restrespo and only the dead, are battlefield documentaries that are eye-openers to the uncertainty, fear and even confusion in the battlefield.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Litmus: 10:01pm On Jan 06, 2019
EVarn:



Obasanjo once said "carrot and stick", but I say "stick and then club", leave the carrots for those who need it.

Mah niggahhH grin.

The thing dey vex me when people tok say flogging no dey work for some types of stubborn fellows. But i no dey see how. my philosophy be say if cane no work, carry big stick, if that fails, ngwa, carry tree branch knack am for head, if him die the problem is solved afterrall, abi? And let no one say the method lacks imagination for I have plenty of that.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 10:08pm On Jan 06, 2019
ugo4u:
One puzzle I'm yet to unravel is how most American soldiers with heavy kits/body armour which even limits agility, still pile up casualties. One is left to wonder what's the essence of those heavy gear(atimes are up to 50pounds) if they're not keeping the soldiers save putting into cognizance the rounds being fired by Talibans(Ak 46).
Korengal/restrespo and only the dead, are battlefield documentaries that are eye-openers to the uncertainty, fear and even confusion in the battlefield.
Most Americans KIA are actually as a result of IEDs and mortar attack on their base.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by LTGEN: 10:21pm On Jan 06, 2019
Xbee007:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XRj6eiZcDU

Cc. LtGen
This is one of the best pictures of the NAF.
BH was caught napping.
You actually could see some of the scum around the trucks .
At the end one of the scumbags is on the ground.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:29pm On Jan 06, 2019
LTGEN:

This is one of the best pictures of the NAF.
BH was caught napping.
You actually could see some of the scum around the trucks .
At the end one of the scumbags is on the ground.
NAF either upgraded one of the sensors on their ISR platforms or a new software

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 10:45pm On Jan 06, 2019
jakeporeshenko:

NAF either upgraded one of the sensors on their ISR platforms or a new software
I initially assumed it was a software upgrade but I think it is more than that. The ISR platform can now pick the tinniest movement that human may miss.

Plus those warm vehicle hoods lighted up like Christmas trees, hard to miss.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by DaV8King(m): 10:50pm On Jan 06, 2019
bidexiii:
Get familiar with the Theatre OP LAFIYA DOLE
Sector One
a. 21Bde Bama
-151TF Bn Banki Junction
-152TF Bn Banki
-202Tk Bn Bama
-222(M) Konduga

b. 22Bde Dikwa
-112Tf Bn Mafa
-3Bn(M) Ngala
81div Tf Bn Gulumbagana

c. 25Tf bde Damboa
-19Bn (M) Bulabulin
-254Tf Bn Damboa

d. 26Tf Bde Gwoza
-192Bb Gwoza
-82Div Tf Bn Ngoshe
-114Tf Bn Bitta
-121tf bn Pulka

e. 28Tf Bde Chibok
-117Tf Bn Chibok
-143Bn (M) Madagali
-115Tf Bn Askira Uba

f. 7Div Gar Maiduguri
-212tk bn Maimalari
-195bn (M) Maiduguri
-251tf bn Maiduguri

Sector 2
a. 27Tf Bde Buniyadi
-159Bb Gaidam
-120Bn Goniri
-233 Bn Damataru

b. 29Tf Bde Benisheikh
-154Tf Bn Mauli
-156Tf Bn Allagarni

Sector 3
a. 7MnJtf Bde Baga
-157Tf Bn Cross Kauwa (Metele)
-118Tf Bn Gudumbali (Arege)
119Tf Bn Malam Fatori

b. 5Bde Gubio
-145Bn (M) Damasak (Gashigar)
-158Tf Bb Kareto
-159Tf Bn Gubio

c. Sector 3 Gar Monguno
-242Tk Bn Monguno/Kangarwa
-153Tf Bn Marte

Nice one Sir.

See no reason why NA PR cannot do something like this or more as part of the Op to win hearts and minds
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by DaV8King(m): 10:59pm On Jan 06, 2019
gabng:
NA

It's Payday for PROFORCE

Also Airbus Helicopters for Army Aviation

AHQ definitely have people on this thread........a few pages back someone mentioned poor engineering support on Lafiya Dole.

Now we see 2 excavators being purchased for same Op.

Not enough, but at least a start

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