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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EVarn(m): 5:25pm On Jan 07, 2019
Kalapizim:
some majors cant even dare stand before a General in Nigeria sef
Why will a Major stand in front of a General?.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 5:26pm On Jan 07, 2019
Kalapizim:
some majors cant even dare stand before a General in Nigeria sef
Don't forget most of the coups in Nigeria was carried out by middle level officers(Majors), never underestimate the capabilities of a determined/disgruntled individual irrespective of his/her rank. The coups is similar to that of Orkar's coup which was characterized by poor planning and poor execution.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Kalapizim(m): 5:28pm On Jan 07, 2019
sconp:
well this Lt dared men
grin grin Bad lt
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 5:30pm On Jan 07, 2019
ugo4u:

Don't forget most of the coups in Nigeria was carried out by middle level officers(Majors), never underestimate the capabilities of a determined/disgruntled individual irrespective of his/her rank. The coups is similar to that of Orkar's coup which was characterized by poor planning and poor execution.

They where all errand boys.

Most coup are planned by top military officers but executed by junior military officers.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by sconp: 5:47pm On Jan 07, 2019
EVarn:
Who will support an ordinary lieutenant?, even if he is leading a platoon, how many men are in his platoon to support such a complex task?.

If it was a Major now, it would have been better, but a lieutenant?, dead on arrival.

The only way he could have succeeded was to have the entire cadre of low ranking officers on his side, which is almost impossible.
Who then deployed all those military vehicles on the streets of Gabon. I think he had the backing of few high ranks who immediately dropped the moment things went POOF
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EVarn(m): 5:51pm On Jan 07, 2019
sconp:

Who then deployed all those military vehicles on the streets of Gabon. I think he had the backing of few high ranks who immediately dropped the moment things went POOF
True.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 5:52pm On Jan 07, 2019
sconp:

Who then deployed all those military vehicles on the streets of Gabon. I think he had the backing of few high ranks who immediately dropped the moment things went POOF


It's a norm............ grin
Once the coup goes wrong most of these top ranking officers flees to other neighbouring countries together with some top politicians who are also involved.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 5:56pm On Jan 07, 2019
They should come to Nigeria and master the art of Coup plotting. The NA should have an archive/manual for Coup.

PS: That was when "men" with guts were in the military.
One thing about coup is either you succeed or fail. The former may be bloodless, but the latter will be otherwise.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EVarn(m): 6:03pm On Jan 07, 2019
ugo4u:
They should come to Nigeria and master the art of Coup plotting. The NA should have an archive/manual for Coup.

PS: That was when "men" with guts were in the military.
One thing about coup is either you succeed or fail. The former may be bloodless, but the latter will be otherwise.
Nigeria that has first class degree in coup plotting. Where a tight cabal of military officers(Abacha, Babangida, Al-Mustapha etc) were all involved in all the coups that happened since 1970. Plotting behind the scene.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 6:21pm On Jan 07, 2019
EVarn:
Nigeria that has first class degree in coup plotting. Where a tight cabal of military officers(Abacha, Babangida, Al-Mustapha etc) were all involved in all the coups that happened since 1970. Plotting behind the scene.


grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by allexpensive: 6:25pm On Jan 07, 2019
jakeporeshenko:

I don’t see anything wrong with the formation in Baga, they had MBTs, MRAPs, fun trucks and APCs so that’s both adequate fire power and protection, untop of that there’s a helipad there so we know they got supplies like spare parts, ammunition, food all of that delivered frequently.

So is the problem with NA just plain incompetence or lack of strategy and ability to adapt to the enemy.

Zero situation awareness. Lack of consecutive and effective long range patrol.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 7:09pm On Jan 07, 2019
bidexiii:


Am thinking it's the yahbon drone, just saying
very possible by the way!
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Ibrahimanis: 8:12pm On Jan 07, 2019
bidexiii:
Photos showing weapons (almost exclusively Turkish-made shotguns) confiscated from smugglers near Tobruk after an exchange of fire, during which a 2nd vehicle fled the area .
Remember this? Also from Turkey.

https://punchng.com/customs-seize-container-with-440-guns-imported-from-turkey/
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Ibrahimanis: 8:12pm On Jan 07, 2019
bidexiii:



I remember last year, a lot of shotguns containers where siezed by the Nigerian customs. And sources revealed they where imported fromTurkey illegally. We haven't heard any arrest about the smugglers/importers.

Where they legal or illegal firearm His turkey the only country producing shotguns and why his it always from Turkey. Me just asking some weird question undecided
You remembered after all. grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EVarn(m): 8:49pm On Jan 07, 2019
Ibrahimanis:

Remember this? Also from Turkey.

https://punchng.com/customs-seize-container-with-440-guns-imported-from-turkey/
The Turkish underworld is vast, the black market arms racketeering is so prolific that even government officials engage in it. The Turkish government also has very weak regulation of its arms industry. It is not surprising that light weapons and small arms from Turkey always find their way everywhere.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 9:00pm On Jan 07, 2019
EVarn:
The Turkish underworld is vast, the black market arms racketeering is so prolific that even government officials engage in it. The Turkish government also has very weak regulation of its arms industry. It is not surprising that light weapons and small arms from Turkey always find their way here.

lipsrsealed
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EVarn(m): 9:03pm On Jan 07, 2019
nemesis8u:


lipsrsealed

Your opinion on the issue is very much welcome. Do you have anything to say?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 9:14pm On Jan 07, 2019
EVarn:
Your opinion on the issue is very much welcome. Do you have anything to say?

grin

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 9:17pm On Jan 07, 2019
Xbee007:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XRj6eiZcDU

Cc. LtGen

This video is so clear and it shows the effectiveness of the Mi-35m, you can see the bastards running away as a missiles flies towards them at 0:21

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:20pm On Jan 07, 2019
EVarn:
The Turkish underworld is vast, the black market arms racketeering is so prolific that even government officials engage in it. The Turkish government also has very weak regulation of its arms industry. It is not surprising that light weapons and small arms from Turkey always find their way everywhere.

Honestly I av read a lot about Turkish illegal fire arms smuggled through Lybian borders and Egypt-Sanai border.

There government should do more to check these menace, these firearms are finding there ways to the middle east and African conflicts arrange.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 9:23pm On Jan 07, 2019
EVarn:
Your

On a serious note , do u think it is possible to move large consignments of weapons in containers / load them / prepare necessary papers etc etc without the knowledge of or alerting the Intel etc of the said country ?

Given that there is high possibility that the very same weapons can end up with local adversaries like ku.ds etc within the country or outside etc etc

Don't answer it , just think

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:25pm On Jan 07, 2019
jakeporeshenko:


This video is so clear and it shows the effectiveness of the Mi-35m, you can see the bastards running away as a missiles flies towards them at 0:21



Apart from the clear video, the red-sqaure lazed on each terrorist & there technicals movement are what I don't see on previous NAF drone footage in the past years. Only in western movies like; "Eye in the Sky"...

The NAF needs more night/all weather assets and precision guided capabilities.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 9:31pm On Jan 07, 2019
Almost spilled my juice, hahaha, what's wrong with you man lol grin grin grin grin

nemesis8u:


grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:37pm On Jan 07, 2019
nemesis8u:


On a serious note , do u think it is possible to move large consignments of weapons in containers / load them / prepare necessary papers etc etc without the knowledge of Intel etc in the said country ?

Given that there is high possibility that the very same weapons can end up with local adversaries like ku.ds within the country or outside etc etc

Don't answer it , just think

I totally disagree with you on these nemesis8u, let's figure these out ?

Last year in Nigeria in more than 4 ovvasion piles of shotguns & cartridge loaded in containers where seized by the Nigerian customs. Same type of firearms where seized from smugglers or terrorists in Egypt and Lybian .
Not one or two occasions. I think there is a new organized syndicate behind all these. They are finding there ways into conflict areas.

The last report I heard on the investigation of those importing these firearms into Nigeria was; the company who's name was used in importing these firearm was in Abuja, getting to the address it turned out to be a residential apartment. Few arrest where made and that's the last we heard about it.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:03pm On Jan 07, 2019
@bidexiii

never said anything explicitly , So nothing there to disagree with

one can only offer possibilities, so who can know definitely ?

Anyways
Syndicates or smugglers etc etc don't operate in isolation

Underworld / crime syndicates r more often than not fronts or foot soldiers or hirelings etc for anybody one can dream of

We don't factor in things into out calculations about which we don't know about isn't it ?

And so.. grin

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Cannonleo(m): 10:12pm On Jan 07, 2019
LTGEN:

This is one of the best pictures of the NAF.
BH was caught napping.
You actually could see some of the scum around the trucks .
At the end one of the scumbags is on the ground.
you know the only thing that came to my mind watching this in real time, i simply wished this ATR -42 ISR platform would morph into a C-130 spectre gunship, would you imagine the damage of having an offensive ISR platform while calling in co-ordinates for additional aircrafts would be just a hobby, so annoying we cant even obtain basic platforms and am drooling over a dream that would never come true.

I know alenia of Italy can modify the g22 as a gunship if am correct.

Just damn

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:29pm On Jan 07, 2019
Cannonleo:
you know the only thing that came to my mind watching this in real time, i simply wished this ATR -42 ISR platform would morph into a C-130 spectre gunship, would you imagine the damage of having an offensive ISR platform while calling in co-ordinates for additional aircrafts would be just a hobby, so annoying we cant even obtain basic platforms and am drooling over a dream that would never come true.

I know alenia of Italy can modify the g22 as a gunship if am correct.

Just damn

That would be a good capability to have
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:36pm On Jan 07, 2019
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EVarn(m): 10:40pm On Jan 07, 2019
nemesis8u:


On a serious note , do u think it is possible to move large consignments of weapons in containers / load them / prepare necessary papers etc etc without the knowledge of or alerting the Intel etc of the said country ?

Given that there is high possibility that the very same weapons can end up with local adversaries like ku.ds etc within the country or outside etc etc

Don't answer it , just think
After "thinking" on this, I decided to post a reply, if only for the sake of those who may find these information interesting.

You may pretend not to have it in India, but there is something called the black market. Basically, it consists of a group of syndicates, both governmental and non-governmental.


Now,it is very possible for large caches of small arms and light weapons to be transported from one country to another if there are interest groups in both countries powerful enough to side-step the system. Countries like Turkey, Pakistan, South Africa and co, have very strong black market syndicates, with links to government officials who cloak their activities from detection.

Thousand of turk weapons flood the black market every year, without the Turkish government sanctioning it. It is not because of some complex conspiracy, it is simply weak arms regulations and corruption of highly placed government officials.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by giles14(m): 10:45pm On Jan 07, 2019
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 10:58pm On Jan 07, 2019
nemesis8u:
@bidexiii

Do you guys have crime syndicates / smuggler gangs etc operating in and around the hotspots in the north bordering Chad , Niger etc ?



The firearms where intercepted in Lagos seaport.

For the Far North where there are porous border with chad, Niger and cameroon definitely such syndicates will exist.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 11:00pm On Jan 07, 2019
EVarn:
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Its present in Ind...

I gave a question which was to be pondered on and not answered grin

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