komekn:


The phrase " Rose tinted spectacles " always comes to my mind when you make commentary with any Nigerian born local sourced player.

Skysports is one of the more reputable international sports media outlets. From thier assessment Isaac Success, was the worst players on both sides getting a 5 rating the lowest on both sides.

See link below

https://www.skysports.com/football/woking-vs-watford/403486

To further expose the delusional, l have taken an excerpt from the Watford Observer a local paper that is heavily biased towards Watford. See below they rated Isaac Success a very poor 4.Thier comments are below.

Isaac Success - 4

This was a game in which Success should have run the Woking defence ragged, but instead, they got the measure of the Nigerian very early on.

On an afternoon in which he struggled to make an impact, he frequently conceded possession, ballooned an ambitious overhead kick over the bar and got booked for diving.

His misery will have been compounded after being subbed on 71 minutes, only to see his replacement Troy Deeney score almost immediately.

Simply put, he looked completely bereft of confidence

So please Nwokem, which match did you watch ❓ l watched the game, and I saw Succes bullied off the ball, very early on. He almost went flying. Chei Oyibo were deh chop potato, come bully you, the guy fall my hand. I felt shame.


KC also got an abysmal rating was ranked 2nd worst player with a scoring of 5 just above Okazaki who had a score of 4.

See link https://www.skysports.com/football/newport-vs-leicester/403480


You said two things, first that both Leicester and Watford fielded completely different teams. Then you said you watched the game. I am lost for words.

The only major player left out of that Leicester side was Vardy, everybody else is more or less first team player. KC was given the stage to show his quality, unfortunately he did not.l could go into detail about how poor he was but there is no need.

Watford put out a strong side with the larger, there were no academy youth players as such.

Arsenal played Blackpool and used thier youth team to dominate proceedings. Considering that Blackpool is a league one team and Woking in league two. That should tell you something.

Daninya11:
I have been following with keen interest the debate on this thread concerning Kelechi Iheanancho...

Dude is talented no doubt but he is fast loosing grip on his career ...

Dude is looking overweight and out of shape .It all has to do with his lifestyle. Reliable sources have told me about his reckless lifestyle in England. He drinks,Clubs,Parties etc.
Am not hating on his Success but Success is better enjoyed If he has a fulfilling Career.

Two seasons back ,he was acclaimed one of the / hottest striker in Europe.
Maybe he needs a psychologist, a physical fitness trainer ,a mentor I really don't know.

Just as a politician can become a lion or a chameleon to fulfill his ambition, I also think a player should also adapt to different coaching philosophy. We all know how CR7 started in Lisbon and Manchester Utd.But now he is more like a fox in the box.

What's it with African players when they achieve what I call groundnut success/survival success?, they just lax and fade out.What about Significant success? Where your name rings a bell in every household? Must a wealthy African man eat everything?...

KC needs to work harder than hard.
KC needs to change his lifestyle.
KC needs to study CR7 work ethics.

A potential has to go through a process to become a finished product.

TheGoodJoe:


Are you saying we can not achieve without Old players? Ghana had the youngest team in the FIFA World Cup 2006 with an average age of 24 years and went on to have a brilliant World Cup. Zambia after losing most of their their players to a plane crash in 1993 reconstituted a young team that went all the way to finals losing to the best team in Africa in the finals, Nigeria.

edi287:

Funny if Goldfish80, Mickael2 or Komekn said the same thing - they'd be tagged haters.
If Nacho isn't succeeding with this Leicester team playing the position most feel is his best - then I don't know what else to say.
Dude is simply not as well rounded as they said he was back in U17.

BascoVanVeli:



Any clown with a laptop can come up with a rating. I pay them no mind especially when i have watched a match myself. Isaac Success got booked for diving so I can understand why an holier than thou Englishman would come up with a lie like that but that is complete BS and if u actually watched the match u would just laugh.

The Iheanacho talk is just a disgrace. For starters Albrighton gave away the pen that lost the match so how can u come here and cosign that Iheanacho was rated only worse than Okazaki? Maddison came in for Okazaki and was ineffective and he even missed a one on one that was set up by your "second worst player" Iheanacho. What about the defense that conceded 2 against a league 2 side?

As for changes I will just lay down my evidence and move on.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46782830
Under-pressure Puel made seven changes for the game at the League Two side, who are 74 places below the Foxes.

The same Watford Observer that u used:
Head coach Javi Gracia fielded a starting 11 entirely different to that which faced Bournemouth in the club's last match

Icon4s:
The Nigeria Football Federation President, Amaju Pinnick is poised to meet with Chelsea winger Victor Moses and his representative in a fortnight in a bid to lure him back to the Super Eagles fold ahead of the 2019 Africa Cup Of Nations tournament in June reports Completesports.com.

‎Moses called time on his international footballing career after featuring for Nigeria at the 2018 World Cup in Russia.

Pinnick in an interview with Channels TV sports program, Sports Tonight stated that if Moses insist on his stance, then the NFF will organise a proper testimonial for him similar to what England did for Wayne Rooney.

“With all due respect to Nigerians am talking with Victor Moses because I believe he is somebody who has paid his dues and you don’t just leave Nigeria unceremoniously and I told him that.

Read More: https://www.completesports.com/pinnick-set-to-lure-moses-back-to-eagles-for-2019-afcon

raindodger13:


I know we have talented players young players, I even listed them in the previous post. We are also talented enough to win Afcon. But I thinking about the Super Eagles in the light of the Global stage. But we've competed in the World Cup since 1994 and have never made it past the round of 16. Im just tired of being labeled as an African footballing power, I want us finally evolve into a World Footballing Power with World Class Players.

In my opinion combining the experience of a decent player like Moses with the talent of Samu will help us get closer to that. I don't necessarily see Moses as part of the long term plan for the GWG.

Danielnino00:


You keep downplaying the performance of the youngsters in our team just to prove that Moses experience at the AFCON

How experienced was Moses himself when he helped us win afcon in 2013?

Experience doesn't always count for much if the player isn't in form... Let Moses get into a new club first and start playing,then we will see what will happen...

The players we currently have may not be better than him,but they aren't terrible either... In Moses absence the team has been doing well... I see no reason why we can't do better..

Earthquake1:


You are clearly being sentimental, Iheanacho and Isaac Success had very poor games in their FA cup outings it had nothing to do with the team

raindodger13:


I know we have talented young players, I just want to combine the talent with experience to get the best possible outcome.

TheGoodJoe:


I will judge Nacho after he plays in a creative offensive system. Until then......

edi287:

Offensive system or not - his allround game hasn't been impressive.

Earthquake1:


You are clearly being sentimental, Iheanacho and Isaac Success had very poor games in their FA cup outings it had nothing to do with the team

TheGoodJoe:


Nacho was impressive and brilliant when he played for the likes of Vieira, Pellegrini and some games for Guardiola. The all-round game was not a draw back. So bringing all-round game as a draw back now does not hold.

What matters is tracing back the factors that are absent when he was stellar and making headlines in British papers.

Finito.

TheGoodJoe:


BascoVanVeli point is factual and has no basis of sentiments in it. Dropping key players will affect the performances of other players. It is clearly logical and devoid of sentiments.

Finito.

BascoVanVeli:


I honestly expected this type of comment.

BascoVanVeli:



Any clown with a laptop can come up with a rating. I pay them no mind especially when i have watched a match myself. Isaac Success got booked for diving so I can understand why an holier than thou Englishman would come up with a lie like that but that is complete BS and if u actually watched the match u would just laugh.

The Iheanacho talk is just a disgrace. For starters Albrighton gave away the pen that lost the match so how can u come here and cosign that Iheanacho was rated only worse than Okazaki? Maddison came in for Okazaki and was ineffective and he even missed a one on one that was set up by your "second worst player" Iheanacho. What about the defense that conceded 2 against a league 2 side?

As for changes I will just lay down my evidence and move on.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46782830
Under-pressure Puel made seven changes for the game at the League Two side, who are 74 places below the Foxes.

The same Watford Observer that u used:
Head coach Javi Gracia fielded a starting 11 entirely different to that which faced Bournemouth in the club's last match

TheGoodJoe:


BascoVanVeli point is factual and has no basis of sentiments in it. Dropping key players will affect the performances of other players. It is clearly logical and devoid of sentiments.

Finito.

raindodger13:


I know we have talented young players, I just want to combine the talent with experience to get the best possible outcome.

Earthquake1:


Your defense of Isaac Success and Iheanacho's shambolic performance doesn't make you patriotic it rather makes you delusional

edi287:

Under Vieira - probably(I remember that solo goal he scored against Manure's U21) but under Pellegrini and Pep?? I don't think so.
He didn't do too much outside the box and it took me a while to admit he was nothing more than a lethal finisher with a good final pass.
From what I had heard of his U17 Performances, I was expecting an Aguero or even a RVP type of forward. He is neither.
It's time to call it what it is - dude has not been an all rounder in senior football.

Joebie:
Ah ah.. when key players dey, u no score. Now key players no dey u wan blame their absence. Why u urself no be key player na?

komekn:


Sorry Sir there is no Finito here.

Every manager changes his team from time to time, it's never the same team week in week out. Formations and players selected, change depending on who you are playing against.

With regards to Leicester tell me one player who is not a regular and or has not played several games for the first team. That proposition is without any substance whatsoever. These were not academy players but all seasoned professionals.

The only key player that you could say Leicester didn't play was Vardy. But why is KC there ❓

But this was the moment for KC to shine but he fluffed his lines completely. KC playing against a physical no nonsense league two side in Newport left him bewildered.

Arsenal used essentially thier youth team to give Blackpool a league one team a football lesson.

TheGoodJoe:


You can keep going on about Iheanacho should shine, should shine etc. I have made my point before Nacho joined City until he left. I will judge him after he plays in an offensive/attacking creative system. By the way, Okazaki is not a key player anymore for Leicester City.

TheGoodJoe:
We need players willing to play with all their hearts. We do not need Pinnick to travel to London to beg Moses to play for us. How does that in any way show commitment to us?

If Moses does not want to play for us, they should let him be. Same goes for Tammy, Lookman, Ibe and the others.

We need players who are hungry and itching to play for us.

komekn:


I watched the game myself and was sorely disappointed by lsaac Success. How can the players some of you here have coined " The beast" man was getting bullied fam, by white agricultural engineers your descriptive term. Guy fall my hand Chei.

Now you have just rubbished Skyports possible one of the most authoritative sports media bodies in the World. And thier player ratings.

The Watford Observer is very pro Watford fc local media. They were less forgiving and rated him the worst players on both sides.


https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/17339713.our-player-ratings-from-watford-vs-woking-in-the-fa-cup/

What l have done is to pick out two media outfits that have no hidden agenda but to state the facts as seen.

But it seems say na only you get eye. Everyone else is blind.

Daninya11:
I have been following with keen interest the debate on this thread concerning Kelechi Iheanancho...

Dude is talented no doubt but he is fast loosing grip on his career ...

Dude is looking overweight and out of shape .It all has to do with his lifestyle. Reliable sources have told me about his reckless lifestyle in England. He drinks,Clubs,Parties etc.
Am not hating on his Success but Success is better enjoyed If he has a fulfilling Career.

Two seasons back ,he was acclaimed one of the / hottest striker in Europe.
Maybe he needs a psychologist, a physical fitness trainer ,a mentor I really don't know.

Just as a politician can become a lion or a chameleon to fulfill his ambition, I also think a player should also adapt to different coaching philosophy. We all know how CR7 started in Lisbon and Manchester Utd.But now he is more like a fox in the box.

What's it with African players when they achieve what I call groundnut success/survival success?, they just lax and fade out.What about Significant success? Where your name rings a bell in every household? Must a wealthy African man eat everything?...

KC needs to work harder than hard.
KC needs to change his lifestyle.
KC needs to study CR7 work ethics.

A potential has to go through a process to become a finished product.

TheGoodJoe:


You can keep going on about Iheanacho should shine, should shine etc. I have made my point before Nacho joined City until he left. I will judge him after he plays in an offensive/attacking creative system. By the way, Okazaki is not a key player anymore for Leicester City.

Mickael2:


Why not purchase an attacking club then make a bid for Iheanacho

TheGoodJoe:


BascoVanVeli point is factual and has no basis of sentiments in it. Dropping key players will affect the performances of other players. It is clearly logical and devoid of sentiments.

Finito.

elyte89:



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