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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:50am On Jan 09, 2019 |
[quote author=rvp2018 post=74583486][/quote] how about building good side walks,drainages and traffic light Systems first? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 6:00am On Jan 09, 2019 |
rvp2018:Tell me about Nigeria's debt problem |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 6:03am On Jan 09, 2019 |
rvp2018:Spot the difference between Kenya SGR and Abuja-Kaduna SGR (and not the massive Lagos-Ibadan SGR still under construction). Even with the fact that we only run passenger trains . We don’ t have freight to move from Kaduna to Abuja, yet the system still made over 400% revenue. Now imagine how Lagos-Ibadan SGR would be as its been connected to the Port? 3 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 6:16am On Jan 09, 2019 |
rvp2018:Although it was initiated 2006/2007, Construction started 2011-2014 so it took four years to construct Abuja kaduna line which is double track btw not single track like your overpriced line. Kenya has oil, it also has gold, stop lying. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 7:25am On Jan 09, 2019 |
rvp2018: That is what i was telling them kenya has never defaulted on debt payment Unlike tz which has always had it is debt forgiven |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:26am On Jan 09, 2019 |
Revenue is not profit.Your Abuja-Kaduna line is hemorrhaging money trust me. The first year of operation of Kenya's SGR - was basically two passenger trains - and the test run for cargo - and we understandably made 100M dollar loss. Running a railway is not cheap. For a rail line to break even - you need lots of cargo and passengers. Very few worldwide every make profit. We'd had projected that the Kenyan line would break even within five years of operation. We are already near the 5yr projected cargo on 1st year of Cargo operation and therefore this year we might break even- and next year make profit. And the same year when the cost of transporting cargo was reduced by more than 200%!! - from 1,000 dollars container to 250 - from MSA to NBO. That discount rate is ending but new cargo rates are still about 100% of cost of transporting container before SGR. You are still building Lagos-Ibandan - distance of 120Km - for years . Meanwhile we completed 500kms in 3yrs...and just about done with 150Kms that involved digging 5Km of tunnel through the rift valley - the second longest tunnel in Africa. "The SGR Ngong tunnel became the longest railway tunnel in East Africa and second in Africa. It stretches for 7.41km which is second to the Hex River Tunnels in South Africa which stands at 13.6km." Nigeria CAN NEVER compete with Kenyan on anything outside population and faked GDP. Our SGR has improved Mombas port operational efficiency and even Durban should be worried now. 68816419: 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:27am On Jan 09, 2019 |
You took 4 years to construct 200Km railway. You were constructing 50Km of track per year. One minute you claim kenya economy is puny consisting of tea & flowers - the next you claim we have oil, gold and name it. Yes we have probably all minerals but in very minute quantities they are as good as non-existent. We have not sold single oil barrel. Ibrahimanis: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:37am On Jan 09, 2019 |
NIgera has had similar debt crisis like TZ - and have had most of their debts forgiven - for simply being so hopeless unable to ever pay.The worst kenya have ever done is to ask for debt rescheduling. tylann: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 7:41am On Jan 09, 2019 |
Ibrahimanis: Tell us more about our oil and gold and how much kenya earns by selling them Our line is not overpriced stop talking lies boy Our line is single and can do double stacking So why construct double track while you can construct single which can do double stacking 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Iamleefact: 7:54am On Jan 09, 2019 |
Ibrahimanis:Why are you not considerate of kazikazi's health |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Iamleefact: 8:00am On Jan 09, 2019 |
68816419:Which world |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 8:08am On Jan 09, 2019 |
rvp20182:Double track. Don't forget that. 186km of double track. Show me where I said you only have tea and flowers! I don't care about quantities, you have you have. So stop claiming you don't have natural resources. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 8:09am On Jan 09, 2019 |
This is what economists at Citi analyst say Egypt and Kenya are the top frontier markets in the continent https://www.cnbcafrica.com/news/east-africa/2019/01/08/kenya-top-frontier-market/amp/ |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 8:12am On Jan 09, 2019 |
rvp20182: As much as Naijjans hate per capita its compulsory for comparisons! Kenyans and other literate people can see what it means when your pop 4x ours handles only half our total mobile money. 160 bn $ for 180 mn people works out to 890 $ per capita per year 80bn$ for 48 mn is 1670 $ per capita per year. As usual almost twice in everything meaningful! |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:14am On Jan 09, 2019 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 8:18am On Jan 09, 2019 |
rvp20182:Past tense, we are talking about present. Nigeria's debt was not totally forgiven. In fact nigeria over paid so Paris club has to refund Nigeria again! |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 8:22am On Jan 09, 2019 |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:23am On Jan 09, 2019 |
Kazikazi: Ethiopian economy is growing faster than that of Kenya but Kenya still has a higher GDP than Ethiopia as of January 2019. Kenya $90 billion Ethiopia $86 billion And even the gap between economic growth rates of Kenya and Ethiopia is getting narrowly adjusted year in year out. Ethiopia is the second most indebted African nation to China after Angola. More than 60% of Kenya's debt is domestic but. Now when it comes to education levels,civilization,entertainment,sports,technology,tourism etc Ethiopia isn't close to Kenya. Kenya and Ethiopia might be peering each other in economy and infrastructure I guess. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:24am On Jan 09, 2019 |
tylann: In terms of infrastructure and economy I think we're ousting each other. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 8:28am On Jan 09, 2019 |
kikuyu1:Per capita, right. OK let's do debt per capita, sounds like fun. Nigeria's debt 74bn = 370 Kenya's debt 50bn = 1000. Wow, you guys better start working your ass off! Each of you owe 1000 dollars! |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:28am On Jan 09, 2019 |
Kazikazi: Please be arguing of something which is 100% ready on the ground,not paper projects. You're taking just a year to erect an SGR pillar and you have the guts to talk poo about others. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:29am On Jan 09, 2019 |
tylann: They even don't have one. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 8:33am On Jan 09, 2019 |
Yobeezy:Really? Mind sharing your source? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:38am On Jan 09, 2019 |
gallivant: I passed this place AVIC 6 towers on Monday afternoon,indeed there's a lot of construction going on there,men are surely busy at work. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 8:40am On Jan 09, 2019 |
Yobeezy:Is this a pillar?? You imported 5000 Chinese workers to build a diesel powered SGR of less than 500 km? Where are Kenyans artisans? You lack technical know how! 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 8:50am On Jan 09, 2019 |
tylann:Which planet are you from? Double stacking and double track are not related at all. You can build double track lines and still double stack (like some parts of India). They are not mutually exclusive at all. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:52am On Jan 09, 2019 |
Ibrahimanis:Add nigeria state debt...our counties have near zero debts maybe pending bills. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:54am On Jan 09, 2019 |
Ibrahimanis:yes most of kenya debt is treasury bonds 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:57am On Jan 09, 2019 |
Kazikazi: You don't even know how a pillar looks like An old man who claims to know everything Meanwhile the SGR project was a deal sub contracted to both Chinese and local expatriates where locals accounted for 40% back in 2014. It was expected to create jobs to 5,000 Chinese and 30,000 black Kenyans and so it was and they're now 80% done with Nairobi Naivasha SGR route.Black Kenyans and Chinese are working in the sgr track fields,but have you ever been to Kenya yourself? You always like arguing what you don't know Meanwhile this is the pillar I was talking about Your lazy country takes one year to construct a single pillar 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 8:58am On Jan 09, 2019 |
rvp2018:That's all of Nigeria's debt, both state and federal. Try again. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 8:59am On Jan 09, 2019 |
Kazikazi: Who told you Kenya's sgr is less than 500km ? Kenyan sgr can be electrified and NEMA has been tasked to conduct an eia for electrification of our sgr Your sgr is non existent 4 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 9:00am On Jan 09, 2019 |
rvp2018:My question is simple and straight to the point. Source that 60percent of Kenya's debt is local? |
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