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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 9:01am On Jan 09, 2019
rvp2018:
yes most of kenya debt is treasury bonds

That is what i told them most of Kenyan debt is internal
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:01am On Jan 09, 2019
Ibrahimanis:

That's all of Nigeria's debt, both state and federal. Try again.
kenya external debt is 25b dollars consisting of 8b owed to multilateral agencies mainly wb & afdb, 8b to bilateral with china taking huge chunk from sgr 5.5b loan, 8b commercial debt mainly eurobond and 1.5b guranteed to state parastals.The rest of is internal debt owed to kenya gov by kenyans.So what debt crisis are you yapping about.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 9:04am On Jan 09, 2019
Yobeezy:


You don't even know how a pillar looks like grin grin
An old man who claims to know everything grin grin

Meanwhile the SGR project was a deal sub contracted to both Chinese and local expatriates where locals accounted for 40% back in 2014.
It was expected to create jobs to 5,000 Chinese and 30,000 black Kenyans and so it was and they're now 80% done with Nairobi Naivasha SGR route.Black Kenyans and Chinese are working in the sgr track fields,but have you ever been to Kenya yourself?
You always like arguing what you don't know grin

Meanwhile this is the pillar I was talking about grin
Your lazy country takes one year to construct a single pillar grin

He like talking things to entertain nigerians
He is a stupid fellow never take him serious

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:11am On Jan 09, 2019
68816419:

show us street views of other parts of Nairobi aside the usual shown pics?
show us street views of other parts of Lagos aside the usual shown pics

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 9:11am On Jan 09, 2019
rvp2018:
kenya external debt is 25b dollars consisting of 8b owed to multilateral agencies mainly wb & afdb, 8b to bilateral with china taking huge chunk from sgr 5.5b loan, 8b commercial debt mainly eurobond and 1.5b guranteed to state parastals.The rest of is internal debt owed to kenya gov by kenyans.So what debt crisis are you yapping about.
I don't care about what you are saying. Show me your source. Like this (attached).

Nigeria's external debt is 21.5bn for 200m people compared to Kenya's 25bn for 50m so per capita you still have a lot to pay!

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:12am On Jan 09, 2019
tylann:


Think before you talk Ethiopia doesnot beat kenya in any development index
Ethiopia gdp is slightly larger than kenya yet kenya has half of ethiopia population
Kenya is the most developed country in east and central africa

Don't discuss Ethiopia with that fool. Let Ethiopians speak for themselves - it's a trick he uses to gain allies to further his stupid hatred.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:13am On Jan 09, 2019
Ibrahimanis:

Sorry to burst your bubble but your banks do not have the capacity to lend Kenya that amount of money.

Your foreign debt is more than your local debt. Fact.
60% of Kenyan debt is internal.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:14am On Jan 09, 2019
Kazikazi:
What developments do you have?


Can you survive without TZ?

Don't forget that you need us more than we need you!

What do you mean surviving without Tz? We are dominating Tz little boy...............you should be asking yourself if Tz can survive without Kenya.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:16am On Jan 09, 2019
darfay:



Have you seen their jerseys?

Okrika better pass am by fae

The problem with zoogerians, they think sports is the jersey. No wonder they were bragging of a beautiful jersey in the world cup and were beaten like small kids.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:16am On Jan 09, 2019

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:17am On Jan 09, 2019
Kazikazi:
My bro, explain to me here...
What is this thing Kenyans are doing? Taking a loan to repay the old loan? What kind of ecomics is this??

Hohohohoho...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 9:17am On Jan 09, 2019
NairobiWalker:

60% of Kenyan debt is internal.
You too? Source!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:18am On Jan 09, 2019
Kazikazi:
A GDP is outdated method.
Swallow this pill

.................so show us the updated method that if used you'd beat us. cool cool cool
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 9:19am On Jan 09, 2019
NairobiWalker:


The problem with zoogerians, they think sports is the jersey. No wonder they were bragging of a beautiful jersey in the world cup and were beaten like small kids.
At least we went for World Cup. Where were you?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:19am On Jan 09, 2019
Kazikazi:
Which businesses? Mpesa isn't a Kenyan company! It have invested both in Kenya and Tz.Vodafone isn't a kenyan!

By the way, have you paid your debts??

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 9:21am On Jan 09, 2019
Ibrahimanis:

You too? Source!

60% of Kenyan debt is internal
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:21am On Jan 09, 2019
Ibrahimanis:

Take away Mombasa port and poof, Kenya is gone. Maybe they will start using Tanzania's port. For a fee of course.

Why are you jealous of Mombasa Port though? Is it because it's the second busiest port in Africa? grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 9:21am On Jan 09, 2019
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 9:23am On Jan 09, 2019
NairobiWalker:


.................so show us the updated method that if used you'd beat us. cool cool cool

He is a fool
I told him to bring any development index that tz beats kenya
He brought that

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:25am On Jan 09, 2019
Kazikazi:
Kenyans lack basic technical knowledge. Their education is too theoretical

That's why the Chinese cheated them on SGR.

Of all people, a Tanzanian wants to lecture Kenyans on education when your top employers prefer Kenyans for top jobs. It's been so bad that your president has been denying Kenyan experts a work permit. You're jealous when Kenyans come to Tz, they take top jobs yet when Tanzanians come to Kenya, they're our watchmen and house maids and beggers - at best hawkers.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:27am On Jan 09, 2019
Ibrahimanis:

Tell me about Nigeria's debt problem grin

Even after having your debt forgiven, you still managed to borrow and now your debt stands at $74 billion.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:29am On Jan 09, 2019
Kazikazi:
Is this a pillar??

You imported 5000 Chinese workers to build a diesel powered SGR of less than 500 km? Where are Kenyans artisans? You lack technical know how!

Show us the Tanzanians building your unbuilt SGR.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:31am On Jan 09, 2019

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:33am On Jan 09, 2019
Ibrahimanis:

At least we went for World Cup. Where were you?

Football is your alfa and omega in sports. All your sporting resources go to football but so far you're embarrassing Africa. Kenya hasn't invested in football that much but when we do, we'll teach you what football is. Meanwhile continue comparing who's got the better jersey whenever you go for tournaments.

You're better off though, our southern neighbors cannot beat Kenyan High School boys in any sport. Ask Kazikazi.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:50am On Jan 09, 2019
Ibrahimanis:

Did you read the report? It clearly stated your external debt is more than your local debt.

Some part of the other external funds are usually given as grants and loans to Kenya by major international lenders like World bank,European lenders etc

60% of Kenya's debt is domestic,you can be equivocal or go mad with it.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:52am On Jan 09, 2019
NairobiWalker:


Even after having your debt forgiven, you still managed to borrow and now your debt stands at $74 billion.

With all the oil rich monies they have,they still manage to lobby for external loans??
Surely their ill politicians have ruined their zoo nation.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 9:55am On Jan 09, 2019
I can see the internal debt increasing with banks lending more to the Govt and decrease in the external debt. Treasury bonds in the local market are oversubscribed whenever they are issued . While banks lending more to the government will have negative effects on credit access to our SME's and Kenyans in general. Sacco's and mobile based lenders have been the biggest winners of this shift.Remember, we have the second largest if not the largest SACCO movement in Africa and we are the world's juggernauts when it comes to Mobile Money!

The decrease in the trade deficit due to increase in export values and the 6.2% projected growth of the GDP should lower our debt to GDP ratio easing pressure on the Treasury. The only thing that will lower us this year according to analysts would be the increasing political temperatures on stuff like referendum and the 2022 succession politics but so far so good !
NairobiWalker:


Stop being an idiot

https://tradingeconomics.com/kenya/external-debt

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:04am On Jan 09, 2019
Ibrahimanis:

At least we went for World Cup. Where were you?

You went for world cup to showcase your fashioned attires with your much hyped jersey and yet you were beaten like burukenges by Argentina and Croatia grin

You're bragging too much,has Nigeria's co curricula activities ever shined beyond Africa?No..
You're just local sports champions and you want to make noise to the whole world while Kenya's athletes and rugby players have been shining in global levels since time immemorial and we don't make noise with it.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:06am On Jan 09, 2019
The problem here is not per capita; it the gov revenues to repay that debt; our national budget is bigger than your federal budget; total combined state+federal budget for nigeria is 40B; kenya is 35B; but look at revenue side of things; and you'll know why you're in debt crisis and we are not.

We easily collect about 20B dollars from taxes (15B) and another 5B from AIA - so we are fine.

Look at your revenues collectons - all 36 states generates only 3B dollars - your federal gov generates about 10-15B dollars including from oil earnings.

You're in a bigger trouble. And this is not the first time - you've been through this again.

Ibrahimanis:

I don't care about what you are saying. Show me your source. Like this (attached).

Nigeria's external debt is 21.5bn for 200m people compared to Kenya's 25bn for 50m so per capita you still have a lot to pay!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by uzzyke: 10:22am On Jan 09, 2019
eko

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:25am On Jan 09, 2019
Yet again this year they are having a budgetary crisis.Their projections are strongly tied to price of oil per barrel. This dependacy on oil is detremental to Nigeria's economy! It's about guess work,low oil prices should be good for Kenya as we will lower our oil import bill hence easing inflation in our economy!
rvp20182:
The problem here is not per capita; it the gov revenues to repay that debt; our national budget is bigger than your federal budget; total combined state+federal budget for nigeria is 40B; kenya is 35B; but look at revenue side of things; and you'll know why you're in debt crisis and we are not.

We easily collect about 20B dollars from taxes (15B) and another 5B from AIA - so we are fine.

Look at your revenues collectons - all 36 states generates only 3B dollars - your federal gov generates about 10-15B dollars including from oil earnings.

You're in a bigger trouble. And this is not the first time - you've been through this again.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:38am On Jan 09, 2019
Victoria is a very tiny island indeed.
uzzyke:
eko

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