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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:48pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Melvyn11: Correction, don't forget to add OR ASSIST We can pardon 365 days without goal if he claims goalscoring is not his thing, but we can't pardon 365 days without assist. No wonder Joaquin with just 74 assists is topping him in LaLiga assist table after 16 years in LaLiga 7 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Heywhizzy(m): 9:50pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Greatihex:As an individual I only came across this thread when Chelseafan1 was obsessed with Barcelona thread saying Hazard is better than Neymar which is obviously a lie, he took this agenda to unattainable levels, what Dayo is doing to hazard is small sef, if I didn't watch a Barcelona match, I would know how many times Neymar lost the ball in the first 15 mins, dribbles uncompleted, low quality of the goal he scored, high quality of the scorer he assisted, low quality of the defenders he Shakushakud on, low quality of the keeper, Fouls he made, Yellow cards he got.. Hazard is good but good don't sound well amongst the greats.. If dribbling is shakushaku, Messi, Neymar took shakushaku to great heights whilst still being very productive, same can't be said of Hidden until recently and even the recently sef is still not encouraging enough, Neymar still tops him 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 9:54pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Ibime:Help your follower out . Which season did iniesta go without scoring or assisting in all competition? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 9:55pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Ibime:Help your follower out . Which season did iniesta go without scoring or assisting in all competition? Can we also pardon lampard going to 3 world cup accumulating the most number of shoots without scoring a single goal? what level of productivity is that. lukaku has more epl goals than drogba in fewer games despite playing in useless teams.....Next! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by VargasVee(m): 10:15pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Melvyn11: Judging by your statement. He went through a poor form because of injuries too in that season. Guess what? he bounced back the next seaon by scoring 17 goals and helping Chelsea to a premier league title. Iniesta did all his bouncing on the touchline and nothing came out. Did he even score up to 4 goals the entire season? Do you not see the Carry-along I'm seeing? 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 10:20pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
VargasVee:Mr man come back here. You did not answer my question . |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 10:24pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
![]() ![]() Chelsea fans can lie God forbid . Iniesta did this iniesta did that Prove it. while your own mcm went 355 days without scoring a single league goal and man was not injured. 7 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 10:28pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
So i decided to enter here and behold am seeing lampard vs iniesta comparison come on please why so much disrespect for inesta. Lampard should b compared to his mates like gerrad scholes carrick milner etc lampard cannot even b compared with giggs |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 10:33pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
To be matching Messi in terms of productivity is some achievement for Hazard. He has been placed in a talent bracket alongside the global elite over recent years, but has faced questions regarding his ability to produce on a consistent basis. https://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/hazard-joins-messi-as-europes-most-effective-players-in-2018/10ry38uc6y9y71q04nr3srypeb Nihilstjnr, Do you write for goal.com 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:34pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
nihilistjnr: ![]() ![]() ![]() Raumdeuter needs to appease the gods. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 10:34pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Hazard's role in the victory wasn't insignificant but the game once again highlighted the way in which he is so often starved of possession when deployed in a 'false nine' role. The 28-year-old gets a huge number of his goals by carrying the ball, either on the counter-attack or in tight spaces in the box. However, as a false nine, he is required to act as a pivot and provide a threat in behind defences, a discipline to which he is still adapting. It often seems like a terrible waste of his talents. Indeed, he had fewer touches than any of his team-mates to have completed the game, which means that much of his work goes into opening space for his fellow forwards. Willian, of course, was a big beneficiary, netting what was only his fifth goal of the season in all competitions. - goal.com This is why I don't like hazard in the false 9 position |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:39pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Heywhizzy: How is someone rolling on the ground, topping someone standing tall with a world cup medal? 13 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 10:39pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
nateevs:why did they frustrate and refused to back conte to continue in his success? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 10:50pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Greatihex: Fam don't be deceived into thinking that the nonsense that you read here is reflective of the poster's real life view. Bashing hazard is just a brand building tool, and a way to differentiate one's self in the sea of anonymity that is Nairaland. Dayo would be arrested or even lynched if he was to utter half the stuff he says here in the real world. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:52pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Melvyn11: One irritating thing about you aparisports pundits is, they would destroy your points with facts, yet you guys wouldn't stop repeating the same thrashed points. Drogba had knee injury problems that took a toll on his performances for more than two seasons. Striker that was doing 20+ before, suddenly started doing 5 goals a season. This is not even considering the games he played when he turned grandpa and had lost his bite. Everything shouldn't be about arguing, arguing, arguing, like an illiterate. This is the malaise we are facing on this thread, spearheaded by Apari himself. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 10:52pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Heywhizzy:Oga, i don't understand what Neymar and messi have to do in Iniesta and Hazard. The post you quoted had only Iniesta and Hazard. Let me repeat. If hazard is Shakushaku for doing what Iniesta does, then Iniesta is Shakushaku rabbi |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 11:02pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
nihilistjnr:lol. You mean say them go knack am wetin tinker knack basin? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 11:02pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Debroslink:Ehn? Kilo wi? What of 2009 and 2011 Finals? Don't rubbish Don Xavi in your eagerness to defend Iniesta. In Xavi's prime he was Thanos in that midfield. Iniesta is not his mate 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 11:02pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
E get one Chelsea fan group wey I dey for whatsapp. Mehn, sometimes I begin to think there's truth in what some people here yab us with. How can any sane person with two eyes be comparing David Luiz with a prime Vincent Kompany? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 11:06pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
airmark:How can you destroy a fact I don't follow. Does lukaku not have more goals than drogba in less games in the epl? Thats the only fact we are interested in. You didn't add context when it came to iniesta and lampard but you want to add context to drogba and lukaku yeye 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 11:13pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
There are simply no guarantees that the Argentine would get the time he needs to replicate his Spurs success, were he to be appointed at Old Trafford Much of the build-up to the game between Tottenham and Manchester United at Wembley on Sunday has been focused on Mauricio Pochettino. The Spurs manager is reckoned to be the heavy favourite to replace Ole Gunnar Solskjaer once his short-term deal expires this summer. Spurs fans have been pretty vocal over what they perceive to be disrespect in the tones in which their manager is being discussed. It’s been portrayed in many circles as a matter of formality that Pochettino would up sticks and move to Old Trafford. But it’s not so simple these days. This is not the Manchester United of 20 top-flight titles. This is not the Manchester United of three Champions League finals in four seasons between 2008 and 2011. This is a very different Manchester United, where history is the biggest selling point and the lay of the land does not necessarily lend itself to the empire building that Pochettino would need to thrive. Editors' Picks Make no mistake and do not let the recent run of results fool you. There may be harmony in the squad at present – as evidenced by a pleasant training camp in Dubai – but there is still wild dysfunction about Manchester United. The sacking of Jose Mourinho merely papers over the cracks, and the good start experienced by Solskjaer should not be mistaken for a revival or for the new normal. United have such a way to travel before they can legitimately call themselves a top club again that it is tough to know where to start. They can rip it up and start again but that will take decades. No one is going to get that kind of time. So, what they need to do is embrace the chaos, move quickly from one era to the next and discard the coaches who cannot keep up. And that is not the type of chaos that would suit the talents of Pochettino. His progression at Spurs has been gradual. He has mixed some of the talents already at the club with some newcomers in the market while also bringing through plenty of young talent to boot. He has had the space, the time and the right environment to do that. What he is achieving right now is the culmination of Spurs doing things properly. United have had plenty of managers since Pochetttino arrived in north London. Each one has left behind a hotchpotch of signings and the squad is lacking any sort of collective identity. There is simply no guarantee that Pochettino would not end up like David Moyes, Louis van Gaal or Mourinho and be discarded as soon as results start to go skew-whiff. That does not happen at Spurs, not that Pochettino has had to endure many nightmare runs of results. But he has built up enough credit with the chairman Daniel Levy over the years that his position is secure for the long-term. These are testing times for Tottenham with a lack of transfer activity in the summer and continued fan discontent surrounding the impending move back from Wembley to the new White Hart Lane. Through it all results have been consistent and performances of a high level. There have been thrilling individual displays from the likes of Christian Eriksen, Son Heung-min, Dele Alli and, of course, the captain Harry Kane. And that is the team that Pochettino has created with his own two hands. Spurs are going places; right now they appear to be a far better long-term bet than United. The only downside at the moment is the contract situation of a few of their stars, not least Eriksen. If Spurs could somehow convince the Dane to commit his future to the club and to the new stadium then all would be well. Without that signature, there is the sense that Spurs are ready to be picked off - yet again. United is no place for Pochettino right now; there is simply no way he could replicate his project there and all he could do is damage his reputation, albeit with a very handsome payoff. What United need is a manager who can thrive despite the drama all around him. What they need is a manager who can roll his sleeves up on day one, make improvements to the players already on the books and set them out in such a way that they can climb the league table quickly. What they need is a man with a track record of delivering at top clubs with difficult structures that require a politician’s disposition and a thick skin. They need a man who can get in, get trophies and get out. Because Manchester United are that kind of club now. There will be no legacy builder. There will be managers coming in for short-term spells and what will define the success of their reigns will be the number of trophies they win. They need Antonio Conte. Conte has proven at Chelsea that he has what it takes to succeed in the grind of the Premier League. He instilled a remarkable consistency and discipline in the Chelsea squad. It may not have suited everyone at the time – fallouts with David Luiz and Diego Costa were particularly ugly – but it scarcely mattered. He made Chelsea champions in his first season in charge. Conte picked up the pieces of Mourinho’s third-season botch and made the club as good as new. And, crucially, he is available. Conte, after his successes with Juventus and Chelsea, has earned the right to be fussy. He turned down Real Madrid earlier this season as he did not feel like taking over from Julen Lopetegui mid-season. He needs time to plan his own project, and considering the trouble Santiago Solari is currently experiencing it can be said he dodged a bullet. He will, however, be ready for his next challenge next summer, once the fug of the dispute with Chelsea has settled. And he will be coming to the market with a super club in mind. He would be interested in what United have to say, just like he would be interested in Real at the right time, or Bayern Munich. But it is United who would suit him down to the ground. The players that were good enough and hungry enough would stay. The rest would be frozen out. A couple of key additions would be identified. United would quickly have a recognisable style of play and would stick to it. They would be hard to beat and would be well-matched to the challenges of Manchester City or Liverpool. That is why United and Pochettino should stay well away from each other. The job suits Conte and Conte suits the job. Chelsea board dey Bleep up. https://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/why-conte-not-pochettino-is-the-right-man-for-man-utd/17rze8k6tjmc110myc39ikzwrs 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 11:17pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Even though Iniesta is still playing, he's no way close to General Lampard's goals or assists. This is considering he played for hyper attacking teams like Barca and Spain. He's no fraud but compare Xavi with Lamps instead please. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PlainJAY(m): 11:20pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
^^^ Someone said lampard cannot be compared to giggs ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 11:24pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Unlimited22: is raumdeuter in that group? cos he thinks both of them are equally useless |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by LongD(m): 11:25pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 11:26pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 11:27pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Unlimited22:guy, forget the yabbing we dey give luiz for here. That guy have been part of defences that won important titles for us. The guy's major problem is his irrational and sometimes carefree attitude. But, if he decides to be serious and disciplined on his day, he is as good as any top defender out there. If only his madness and carelessness will allow him to achieve greatness. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 11:28pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
PlainJAY:I don't understand. Lampard has more league goals and is behind only Giggs, Rooney and Fab4 in highest PL assists of all time. One is a winger, one is a midfielder. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 11:29pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Na make una follow me see wetin I dey see.
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 11:30pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Greatihex:Luiz is a good player, but mehn, prime Kompany was better. Abeg. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:40pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Melvyn11: What's the context of an attacking midfielder that has half the assists of Lampard and 1/6th the goals. A Barca AMF that has lower goal return than John Terry and Sergio Ramos. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 11:54pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Ibime:Context like 24% of lampard epl goals where penalty. Am sure iniesta would have also loved to boost his stats with pen like lampard did lol. Or the fact that the lampard we saw at Chelsea carried by ballack,essien and makelele was not the same without them when playing for England Where he was badly exposed. Fact is Lampard was a hit and hope goal merchant this explains his horrible record at the world cup of not scoring despite having more shoots than anybody else and not having penalty to boost his stats. Fact Modric >>> Lampard. 2 Likes |
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