boiz2men:


Is the op correct?

Saffi:
Divorced bitter broke men. I’ve never seen a guy genuinely happy with money, joining mtgow. Even if they don’t want full blown relationships, they still associate, flirt, spend money and entertain women.

ubunja:
Divorced Bitter Broke.
But were these men Broke when they got married?
Dont you see you just exposed women as a liability and a risk to a man's resources? And you wonder why men are going mgtow?

Saffi:
If a man sees a woman as a liability, that’s his fault. That’s why I said most of you are bitter because no man with cash and sense worries about these things. If you’re so bitter to the point you have to join a group to prove your worth, then you need help and the problem is internal.

2buffagain:


This makes absolutely no sense.
Did you think all this up by yourself dear?

Saffi:
If a man sees a woman as a liability, that’s his fault. That’s why I said most of you are bitter because no man with cash and sense worries about these things. If you’re so bitter to the point you have to join a group to prove your worth, then you need help and the problem is internal.

ubunja:
hilarious. Yet when women join Feminism it's OK...

Saffi:
No it’s not okay. I don’t agree with feminism and I’m not one.

Saffi:
It doesn’t make sense because it’s the truth, and the truth hurts. Name any rich man who’s a part of Mgtow, and follow the lifestyle?

2buffagain:


You're deflecting from the topic, but I'll bite.

#1) As to your comment...In Naija, I admit, perhaps not. Honestly, men in naija who have money have no need to think on such things as the society still respects men and doesn't look for ways to make men unwiliing financial slaves to women. For a man to be a financial slave to a woman in Africa, he has to be WILLING i.e she didn't put a gun to your head. He did it to be called Big daddy.

In the parts of the world I am, heck yeah there are a lot rich guys not interested in full-female integrations into his life...especially the current generation and down. There is just no incentive to do so as the relational structures of fairness people still enjoy in Africa has long been wiped out here. It is now all fully feminized. Too many advantages have moved over to the female side to the detriment of the male side.

Why won't a rich man develop such a response given the way the legalities are set up here? For a rich man to marry here is to automatically lose the game. No Ifs, ands or buts about it. the pump-dump lifestyle is safer for them....because prenups don't even do anything anymore. All you are seeing is a leading up to that biblical prophecy about 7 women to 1 man...begging and all that. It simply will be, regardless of how you feel about it.

#2) BACK to this topic... Ubunja has simply shed light on the differences of the sexes, and if you are truly as logical as you present yourself...you would agree that everything he wrote up there is true....just like I was able to logically admit that rich men in Africa have no strong reasons to be interested in that movement.....yet.

ubunja:
Guys Are Like That, Girls Are Like This

PROLOGUE.
here are 5 significant differences between men and women that you'll do well to remember as you interact with women...

1. MARRIAGE-WISE: YOUR SACRIFICE IS NOT HER SACRIFICE
relationships are about sacrifice, but the sexes sacrifice differently.

a woman is always in demand. at any one time she's having sex with more than one man. while 5 more men are begging to Bleep her. and many more are eagerly doing her favors in cash and in kind without getting anything but approvals.

all these things a man isn't privileged to experience.

when a man proposes marriage to a woman the woman considers what she's already getting (the sex, attention and favors) from different men as a single lady; and battles with a decision between the pleasures of being single and the man's proposal. she's weighing multiple-dicks anytime, fun getaways, weekend club nights of booze, freedom to wear whatever, keeping her surname and all the fun things a single or unmarried woman enjoys against the torture of one dick, getaways that will come once a year when hubby finally gets holiday
time-off, no more club nights, having her dressing regulated, having someone's surname replace hers and all the restrictions a wife undergoes.

Her choice to walk away from the pleasures, freedoms and privileges of being single is how a woman
sacrifices for the man. her giving up all her fun for him is a huge sacrifice for the marriage. she has done the
man a huge favour by choosing his one dick over the dozens she was riding.

And so a woman enters marriage with that superior stance, demanding the man show appreciation for what she has given up to be with him. she may not say it in so many words but by attitude.

the experiences that a woman gave up to be with him will always be more amazing than those the man is offering.

meanwhile a man sacrifices in an entirely different way.

a man lives within his means and doesn’t over-work himself, until he gets a wife. and then everything changes... to keep his wife happy and comfortable he works harder and for longer; and may even take another job. he has targets to meet: house, car etc. he works himself to the bone, even when sick, even on holidays and birthdays. sometimes in dangerous occupations that take him in and out of hospitals. sometimes in distant locations that only permit him to visit home once a month.

he's doing it all out of love.

His giving of his sweat, life, labour and energy to build a home he himself will never enjoy because he's always away working and the few days he's home he's asleep because he's exhausted is how a man sacrifices for the woman.

and eventually his over-worked body will pay the inevitable price; seeing him go to the grave far earlier than his wife.

2. PARTNER-WISE: SHE'S DOESNT ENVY LIKE YOU ENVY.
we all at one time or another envy our friends' partners. its an inevitable part of life. but women and men deal with this envy in different ways.

if Thomas' best friend, Andrew, is always raving about how much his fat cute GF Joyce rocks; Thomas will not go after Joyce but will go out there and get himself a
cute fat girl just like Joyce, to experience that for himself.

That’s how guys roll. its how guys end up dating the same type of women as a crew. one guy inspired everyone.

it plays out this way because girls are PASSIVE in sex and do little of the work so what counts more is not her talent and skill but what her mama gave her - her beauty, figure, boobs and ass: her ASSETS. ( you can see this in porn categories e.g M.I.L.F, BBW, teen, Latina, Big Ass; all that group women by looks and appearance, not by
talent and skill)

so for Thomas there's a 100% guarantee that a random cute fat girl with assets matching Joyce’s will rock just like Joyce. so Thomas doesn’t go after Joyce
personally but finds his own cute fat girl with the same type of body as Joyce.

everyone goes home happy.

however!!! if Joyce's best friend, Cynthia, is always raving about how much her tall lanky BF Thomas rocks;Joyce will not go out there to get herself a tall lanky guy like Thomas, no!Joyce will go after Thomas Himself , to experience that for herself.

That’s how girls roll. its how girls betray each other. and why girls don’t brag about their men to their friends, and when and if they do brag its about his money or job
(things the friends already see) but never about his dick game or dick size (things they haven’t seen).

to brag is to apply for your BF to be stolen.

it plays out this way among girls because guys are PROACTIVE in sex and do the bulk of the work so what counts more is his talent and skill and not what his daddy gave him.

so there's 0% guarantee that a random Tall Lanky Guy will rock just like Thomas since its not guaranteed the random will possess Thomas' skill set.

so rather than test drive a hundred random Tall Lanky Guys,Joyce takes a shortcut and steals the nearest "tried
and tested" Tall Lanky Guy she knows: Thomas.

and bitches go to war.

while a woman's prime sexual duty is to maintain her figure and assets, a man's prime sexual duty is to expand his sexual repertoire. sex, like all skills, sharpens with practice; and the more women a guy fvcks the better he gets at fvcking and the more pleasure he can give a woman.

between two 30 yr old men, the man who started fvcking at 16 will obviously deliver a stunningly better performance than the man who started fucking at
27. 14 yrs of pussy will imbue a man with breathtaking skills women crave.

and should women get confirmation that a man blows minds with dick they'll steal him from whoever owns him - friend or sister.

3. PROBLEM-WISE: SHE SEEKS SYMPATHY YOU SEEK SOLUTIONS.
here is a mistake that many men make. when a woman discusses her problem with you, because you think of yourself as this mighty Problem-Solver you try to SOLVE
the woman's problem for her: wrong move!!! women want COMFORT AND SYMPATHY not solutions. solutions deny a woman a chance to solve her own problems and make her feel
inadequate.

but comfort grants a woman that chance to solve her own problems while promising to support her in her decisions. men never discuss their problems with their women because by instinct they know women are only good for comfort not solutions. men take their problems to OTHER MEN because comfort doesn't help a man with his problems.

men are solutions-driven. women are empathy-driven. because women are emotion-based and men are logic-based. worse, when women attempt to give solutions they fail miserably by attaching emotion to it all ("he must take my advice I’m his GF" ) and if their advice is rejected they feel unloved.

men take their problems to their friends to avoid this.

If a girl brings a problem to you comfort and support don’t give her 2 hours of solutions and answers (UNLESS SHE EXPRESSLY EXPLICITLY DISTINCTLY CLEARLY ASKS FOR YOUR SOLUTIONS) otherwise listen and sympathize. Nothing more, nothing less!
Example :
Your GF : "my boss wants me to work this Sunday and has started this habit of asking me to do
his grocery-shopping for him"
You : [s] "tell him to go to hell. That’s how it begins. next he'll be asking you to do his laundry. you know what? you need to find a new job!" [/s]
You : "he's an arsehole. what are you going to do?"

4. GIFT-WISE: SHE DOESNT ASK THE WAY YOU ASK. women ask for things via hints. men ask directly

A man will say to his woman "Did you expect me to read your mind?" and the woman will be angry because all week long she's been dropping hints like crazy. leaving clues like a criminal that wants to get arrested

but men are hopeless with hints and clues that’s why the few men who are good with them make money as detectives. the same reason why men always get caught when cheating is the same reason why men cant pick up hints and clues: if you're hopeless with hints and clues it also means you're careless with hints and clues.
here's a short story:

on a cold day a woman shows her man a jacket in a shop, she tries it on, parades it for him and tells him it will match nicely with his own jacket he has at home. reminding the man her birthday is around the corner and her jackets at home don’t look so good on her anymore since she got her new figure---------> as far as the woman is concerned, she has just asked for that jacket . can she be any clearer than this?

but to the man it was all chatter that flew over his head. and the man and the woman are headed for a showdown when her birthday comes and that jacket isn’t bought. the woman's anger will burst "but i told you I wanted that jacket!!" while the honestly baffled man will ask "when?? baby don’t expect me to read your mind!!"

but women don’t come clear and direct for two reasons: 1) Men have ego. and women have to tip toe around it. unsolicitated ideas are best given in such a way they appear self-generated: hints & clues.
and 2) No woman wants to be seen as demanding so some things will be asked for via implanting the idea: hints & clues. when the man buys the gift he doesn’t see it as one more thing the woman asked for; but "i saw how she liked it; i wanna surprise her with it!!" NEWSFLASH!!! you're not going to surprise her dummy! her liking it was her asking for it....

5. PUSSY-WISE: YOUR WASTE IS NOT HER WASTE.
if a woman is no longer a virgin she considers a waste of pussy if that pussy is not being pounded.

pussy and economizing are words that don’t belong together. if the pussy is there it must be fvcked. no excuses. No stories. No becauses. no saving it. go easy on a woman and you"ll lose her. be economic with pussy and a woman will give it to someone else. to get a woman you have to show you're prepared to destroy pussy and have no intention of saving, hoarding, preserving, economizing and storing it away.

"use it or lose it" is a woman's motto: The law of biology.(tie up one arm to "save it" and after a year it will grow weak, wither and waste away. Use it or lose it).

meanwhile men have a different outlook. the more a pussy is fvcked the less valuable it becomes in his eyes. Hence a woman's Body Count will always matter to him.

A married man likes to fvck his wife gently and softly so as to keep her fresher for longer because he takes pussy to be like money that should be saved for future use.

But it's all a big mistake.

Its the reason married women cheat and the reason everyone wants to cheat with a married woman. her pussy is always in mint condition. but this also means that pussy is not being properly destroyed and the wife is definitely unfulfilled.

"waste not want not" is a man's motto: The law of business. to a man a pussy that’s fvcked 24/7 365 is a wasted pussy. its being ruined. But to a woman a pussy that’s not fvcked, ever, that just lies there 24/7 365 is a wasted pussy. its not being utilized. while you take it easy on your girl and fvck her gently and sparingly, she feels like she's being squandered, toyed with, trifled with and her time being wasted. she's not getting any younger and she wants her body made use of NOW. a GF unfvcked is a wasted GF. a pussy unused is a pussy wasted.pussy is not money it cant be saved. to save pussy is not to fvck it and not to fvck it is to waste it.

same goes for dick. women pretend to respect that guy keeping it in his pants, "saving himself for his future woman" or whatever; but deep down they hate him for not making use of that dick. every study where girls are asked what they'll do if given a dick for a day shows they'll be no better than the Players and pigs they profess to detest. worse, as much as a woman publicly praises the chaste man she never loses her virginity to him but to the Bad boys, Players and Pigs. and no matter how much she tells the chaste man "you'll make a good father" she never gets pregnant for him, but for the Player that’s baby-daddy to dozens of other girls across town. a woman herself cannot explain the draw Mr. Baby-daddy has on her, especially when common sense is screaming "walk away bitch!!". its biology. its the woman's evolutionary impulses subconsciously
propelling her into the arms of that man who can make good use of her perishable goods - the womb being the most perishable of her goods.

gender bias and romance aside, women view a man committing to one girl in a world of pussy as a man absolutely, totally, betraying the marvellous gifts mother-nature gave him. he was designed to impregnate the whole World his whole life: from adolescence to old age; that’s why he manufactures millions of sperm daily and his sex life doesn’t slow down for menstruation or pregnancy. a man's sexuality is a highway with no stop signs, no traffic police, no traffic lights and no speed humps. he can fvck everyday till he drops dead at 100 because his dick and his sperm are active till his last day. The only roadblock on a man’s sexual highway is the one placed by society: love. For love a man gives up all his privileges granted him by mother-nature and wastes everything on one woman.

in comparison, women see that their own sex life is like an inner-city road; corners, speed humps, stop signs, traffic lights, zebra crossings and traffic cops everywhere. always speed limits, slow downs and stops. if its not menstruation stopping sex play for days, its pregnancy taking the woman out of action for months. If its not motherhood putting her on the sidelines for years, its menopause putting paid to her sex appeal.

even if she wanted to or there were willing men, a woman can not have solid non-stop daily sex for a full straight month, not to speak of a year or a lifetime. that gift mother-nature gave to a man. a lot of women secretly envy men for the easy-going, non-stop, low-consequence nature of male sexuality, and see men taking chastity vows or being faithful to one woman as wasting a good thing. Oh what havoc they would cause if they had those dicks....!!! What fckery!! as it is they don’t fvck willy-nilly for fear of pregnancy; whats the chaste
man's excuse?

a man is over-blessed. for him to commit to one woman is a waste of resources. it may be romantic but its stupid, biologically. sentiments and emotion aside; a man makes sperm till he dies while his wife's womb will only work for the first half of her life and all sperm the man will manufacture after that point will be water wasted on a dead plant. romantically this fact hurts but biologically its gratifying. As such, women are to be enjoyed timely because their bodies have a short shelf life. to store her away is to waste her. to keep her for tomorrow is to squander her. because her clock is
ticking. just do it already.
TheRedPill
#MGTOW.

CC:
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ubunja:
yah let's stop asking women for confirmation on Red Pill truths. That's how niggahs get misled.
Remember women don't do that on their issues.

boiz2men:


Wasn't asking for confirmation.

Wanted to hear her opinion

boiz2men:


Is the op correct?

boiz2men:


Wasn't asking for confirmation.

Wanted to hear her opinion

Saffi:
No it’s not okay. I don’t agree with feminism and I’m not one.

ubunja:

fuckboys:
you need the red pill boy

https://www.mgtow.com/

Join us, go to forums and digest the redpills

boiz2men:


So?

Martinez19:
A mixture of little "truths", over generalisation and oblivion of obvious facts. I will address it later.

ubunja:
don't say "So? ". You contradicted yourself. Be a man and accept it.

boiz2men:


and you are supposed to be smart.. smh

"is the op correct?" is asking for confirmation?

2 people were in a fight... one gave his account of what happened and the judge looked to the other and said "is he correct?"

So, all your WISDOM can deduce from the judges question is he (the judge) asking the other guy for confirmation?

damn.... i will excuse your ignorance today. I think you are deliberately doing this to make your thread trend

ubunja:
what were you asking for then.?

boiz2men:


what do you think ? a third person asking one of 2 groups if the first group was correct about their narrative of an event

What do you think the thrird person wants to hear?

ubunja:
so you wanted Confirmation?

boiz2men:

So you still confused?

ubunja:
dude. You just keeping my thread going with your stupidity. Keep it up.

boiz2men:


Give to Caesar what he wants. To trend is your ambition. I vowed to assist the less privileged..

So.. See

Saffi:
Ubunja why have I never seen a guy with substantial cash join Mtgow? Why is it always bitter frustrated rejects that join? Just wondering.

Saffi:
Divorced bitter broke men. I’ve never seen a guy genuinely happy with money, joining mtgow. Even if they don’t want full blown relationships, they still associate, flirt, spend money and entertain
women.