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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:07am On Jan 16, 2019
Any man who goes to describe other men can only be gay. What do you mean not coordinate enough. Do you understand Kenya security sector to know if it was not coordinated. WestGate was a mess - police officer ended exchanging friendly fire - they had to come out and then army went in - MOSSAD went in - and it was total mess. This was was great.

Riverside is not Westland. It seperated by a river. It in Zone 4 - (Lower Spring Valley, Riverside Drive, Kileleshwa, Kilimani, Thompson and
Woodley/Ngong Road) - all those places are mainly residential with max of 4 floors - I think recently upto 8 floors were allowed.

Tha zone 4 - was previously -planned for Single dwelling or maisonettes or town houses on 0.05 ha. Flats were dissallowed.

In 2000s - They allowed flats - of 4 floors if you could connect to main sewer.

And I think last decade it was changed to 8 floors max. That is why DUSIT Nairobi was about 7 floors.

Nairobi is well planned with a lot of greenery as you can see. You cannot just build your slum anywhere. Or erect any structure. There are very many by-laws including how much land you need to reserve for trees.

samsobo24:



You have almost tagged everybody here gay and even you brothers



The security operatives were not coordinate coordinative enough at all


Are you saying The dussit hotel complex, Riverside Drive,off Nyako road,Nairobi isn at Westland

Explain better


Nairobi is far from developed


In iyana ipaja,Lagos you will seen thousands of buildings,shops,offices etc lined side by side.

The spaces were just too much

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 9:14am On Jan 16, 2019
rvp2018:
KaziKazi,

Read here how AMIN owned you, raped your country literally and only withdrew after you begged the world to save you. Nyerere was all over the map pleading.

https://www.monitor.co.ug/Magazines/PeoplePower/Uganda-annexes-Tanzanian-territory-after-Kagera-Bridge-victory/689844-3162012-1laywm/index.html

On November 1, 1978, having occupied the Tanzanian territory of approximately 1,870 Sq. km for a whole month, Amin through the Defence Council, issued a public announcement on Radio Uganda about the annexation of the Tanzanian territory.

“We inform the nation and the world at large that new Uganda/Tanzania border is now up to River Kagera [inside Tanzania]. The captured territory will be made a full district of Uganda soon, although the army occupies it temporally,” Amin’s statement read.

“All Tanzanians in the captured area up to River Kagera must know that they are under the direct rule of the Conqueror of the British Empire, Field Marshal Amin. However, they will be treated as brothers and sisters of the people of Uganda.”


Amin came under international pressure, especially from African countries, to withdraw from the occupied Tanzanian territory . Then Nigerian president Lt Gen Olusegun Obasanjo convinced Amin to withdraw his troops from Tanzania.

When Uganda withdrew its troops, it gave the Tanzanian army chance to regroup near the Ugandan border. For two months, Tanzanian forces reorganised as they prepared for war and on November 27, 1978, they re-attacked Uganda and overrun the Mutukula Post in Rakai District. The Mutukula II battle was the beginning of the war that deposed Amin.
Thank you for the article.There was some kiberans who said the Amin army occupied TZ territory for two years.But the truth is they occupied for two months while the Tanzanians were reorganize. And it is true Libya helped Uganda.And Tanzania won the war.period.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 9:20am On Jan 16, 2019
rvp2018:
Yes they are celebrating this terror attack but I think we've come out stronger. The response has been very good. The world has seen a country that has come of age. The rescue and emergencies operation has been well co-ordinated. Our police force were in the scene few minutes and so were ambulances.
Let's talk about the effects of this terrorist attack on Kenyan tourism.How will Kenyan tourism perform?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 9:25am On Jan 16, 2019
Cheza chini ya maji
TayserMahri:

No one likes Nigerians grin
Look at that brotherly love from other Africans to Kenyans grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:25am On Jan 16, 2019
Why would a small country like Uganda occupy your territory for 2 months. Not a small territory but a whopping 1,800 sq Kms. Why would you go pleading to AU to ask Amin to withdrew. Amin withdrew after Nigerian Obasanjo begged him. Only for you to cowardly attack Amin with Uganda rebels.

You can clearly see you're untrustworthy cowards which explain why Kenyans generally have very low opinion of you.

And you only "won" by assembling 3 times Uganda forces - you assembled Uganda rebels & all you police & prison & any one trained.

Finally understand you LOST KAGERA war and Amin withdrew.

Then you waged a war to dislodge Amin with Uganda rebels.

Those are two seperate wars. The first ended when Amin voluntary withdrawn after pressure from AU.


Kazikazi:
Thank you for the article.There was some kiberans who said the Amin army occupied TZ territory for two years.But the truth is they occupied for two months while the Tanzanians were reorganize. And it is true Libya helped Uganda.And Tanzania won the war.period.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 9:26am On Jan 16, 2019
Down!

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:28am On Jan 16, 2019
I think they were 4; are they all dead now. Great.
Jonraid:
Down!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 9:29am On Jan 16, 2019
What a brilliant headshot from the second picture.That's what happens when you don't let the military interfere with the Reece Squad!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 9:30am On Jan 16, 2019
They are all dead. Let's see if we'll get all the pictures.I really wanted this one to face it,glad he did What an idiot! grin That headshot was beautiful!
rvp2018:
I think they were 4; are they all dead now. Great.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:31am On Jan 16, 2019
Apart from 1978 Kagera war that you lost. You also lost to Uganda in 1972.

In 1972, Obote had convinced Mwalimu Nyerere that he could fight back and get rid of Idi Amin. The government of Tanzania bought the idea, though the army was not involved because the Chief of Defence Forces (CDF) at the time did not like the idea.
Somehow, someone convinced Mwalimu that national service which was another force could help the exiles and refugees to make an invasion. That’s why during the 1972 attack, the biggest number was from Obote’s group. They were about 3,000 troops coming from Handeni camp and others from the camp in Tabora. During this invasion, Museveni had 32 people from Kaboya. When the invasion occurred, it was a disaster, they never reached Masaka or Mbarara, and the group to go to Entebbe perished in Lake Victoria.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:34am On Jan 16, 2019
Jonraid:
Down!

How many of those heartless terrorists have been killed so far?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:35am On Jan 16, 2019
Exactly. RECCE squad are well trained for close combat. The GSU have worked with Isrealis for many years.

RECCE Squad training is done in Kenya and abroad. These elite soldiers go through highly regarded military training in countries such as the United Kingdom, Israel and America and once trained, this team of soldiers can be compared with the British SAS, America’s Delta Force, France’s EPIGN and the Israel’s Sayaret Matkal.

Jonraid:
What a brilliant headshot from the second picture.That's what happens when you don't let the military interfere with the Reece Squad!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 9:39am On Jan 16, 2019
rvp2018:
Why would a small country like Uganda occupy your territory for 2 months. Not a small territory but a whopping 1,800 sq Kms. Why would you go pleading to AU to ask Amin to withdrew. Amin withdrew after Nigerian Obasanjo begged him. Only for you to cowardly attack Amin with Uganda rebels.

You can clearly see you're untrustworthy cowards which explain why Kenyans generally have very low opinion of you.

And you only "won" by assembling 3 times Uganda forces - you assembled Uganda rebels & all you police & prison & any one trained.

Finally understand you LOST KAGERA war and Amin withdrew.

Then you waged a war to dislodge Amin with Uganda rebels.

Those are two seperate wars.


Are you not the one who posted the link of daily monitor which said Amin pleaded for mercy? Is this not the story from the link you provided??

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 9:41am On Jan 16, 2019
Yobeezy:


How many of those heartless terrorists have been killed so far?
The terrorists were 4,so far it looked like some have escaped just in the same manner they escaped in west gate mall attack!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 9:43am On Jan 16, 2019
Yobeezy:


How many of those heartless terrorists have been killed so far?

All have been killed the president has confirmed
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:43am On Jan 16, 2019
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Well said!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:43am On Jan 16, 2019
The are two wars. Uganda invaded Tanzania and your army ran all the way to Darslums. Amin did not face any resistance from your cowardly army who abandoned posts and ran grin grin grin grin. Uganda then proceeded to rape and plunder Kagera province for 2 months. The world berated Uganda for months as Nyerere begged for mercy at AU. That war ended when Amin withdraw his forces. You were pleading and begging the world to save you.

Then after that war had ended...you then waged a new war with 3 times Uganda forces.

Kazikazi:
Are you not the one who posted the link of daily monitor which said Amin pleaded for mercy? Is this not the story from the link you provided??
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 9:47am On Jan 16, 2019
rvp2018:
Exactly. RECCE squad are well trained for close combat. The GSU have worked with Isrealis for many years.

RECCE Squad training is done in Kenya and abroad. These elite soldiers go through highly regarded military training in countries such as the United Kingdom, Israel and America and once trained, this team of soldiers can be compared with the British SAS, America’s Delta Force, France’s EPIGN and the Israel’s Sayaret Matkal.


All have been killed .
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:47am On Jan 16, 2019
Yobeezy:
Why is it that when a bank user carries out transactions in multinational banks in the US like Barclays bank his transaction fees are non-chargeable but in African nations like Kenya the transaction fees for the same multinational bank in Kenya is chargeable.What's the wisdom behind this??

Cc rvp2018,Kikuyu1,Nairobiwalker,tylann,jonraid,TayserMahri

I asked a question and nobody has responded yet.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 9:49am On Jan 16, 2019
rvp2018:
Apart from 1978 Kagera war that you lost. You also lost to Uganda in 1972.

In 1972, Obote had convinced Mwalimu Nyerere that he could fight back and get rid of Idi Amin. The government of Tanzania bought the idea, though the army was not involved because the Chief of Defence Forces (CDF) at the time did not like the idea.
Somehow, someone convinced Mwalimu that national service which was another force could help the exiles and refugees to make an invasion. That’s why during the 1972 attack, the biggest number was from Obote’s group. They were about 3,000 troops coming from Handeni camp and others from the camp in Tabora. During this invasion, Museveni had 32 people from Kaboya. When the invasion occurred, it was a disaster, they never reached Masaka or Mbarara, and the group to go to Entebbe perished in Lake Victoria.
Are these not your soldiers?? Go fight with All shabaab.We won't help you! Just find other people to help you.In the same way you refused to help Tanzania in Uganda war,the same way we refuse to help you in Somalia.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:51am On Jan 16, 2019
They are not the same banks. It really depend on arrangment or ownership or banking systems or laws. A bank in EU of same branch can probably behave seamlessly. International banks in developed world trust each other more. When dealing with African banks - they probably need to escrow the money or make sures everything is kosher - and all that make it expensive.
Yobeezy:


I asked a question and nobody has responded yet.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:52am On Jan 16, 2019
tylann:

All have been killed the president has confirmed

This is good,I saw one hater here posting yesterday happy death day for Kenyans,may this kind of bad prayers be reversed to him.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:54am On Jan 16, 2019
When have we asked for your cowardly help. We don't need witchcraft in war. Alshabaab have never occupied one territory of kenya. We kicked them all the way to Kismayu and installed a Ogaden proxy gov - who takes instruction from Kenya. They can of course launch cowardly gorrilla attacks and ran. But they can never hold ground like Boko Haram does in Nigeria. Not possible for Alshabab to defend a territory against Kenya.
Kazikazi:
Are these not your soldiers?? Go fight with All shabaab.We won't help you! Just find other people to help you.In the same way you refused to help Tanzania in Uganda war,the same way we refuse to help you in Somalia.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:01am On Jan 16, 2019
Of course they will have to die because they are on a mission. Al Shabab too will have to die. This are the realities we must accept.

We are not fighting rebels inside the Congo,we are fighting terrorists inside the Somali desert. I have a friend who is part of the Amisom forces as a KDF. This people are fighting a force who defeated the Americans in black hawk dawn operation. Walking while carrying 40 kgs on your back inside the blazing hot Somalia is something that only Kenyans and mad dogs can do!
Kazikazi:
Are these not your soldiers?? Go fight with All shabaab.We won't help you! Just find other people to help you.In the same way you refused to help Tanzania in Uganda war,the same way we refuse to help you in Somalia.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:02am On Jan 16, 2019
Riverside/Dussit terror attack; 14 dead and 700 rescued - Look like the terrorist failed this time. The response was swift and way better than 2014 westgate debacle.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 10:03am On Jan 16, 2019
rvp2018:
When have we asked for your cowardly help. We don't need witchcraft in war. Alshabaab have never occupied one territory of kenya. We kicked them all the way to Kismayu and installed a Ogaden proxy gov - who takes instruction from Kenya. They can of course launch cowardly gorrilla attacks and ran. But they can never hold ground like Boko Haram does in Nigeria. Not possible for Alshabab to defend a territory against Kenya.
How many Kenyan soldiers have died in Somalia? Too many! America is there to help you,Ethiopian army and the AU is there.But you are dying like flies! To make matters worse Al shabaab are parading your dead soldiers just to prove and remove any doubts of your weakness.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:10am On Jan 16, 2019
What did you want the soldiers to do. To ran away like you ran from Amin in Kagera and had to get Uganda rebels on the frontline. Kenya soldiers are out in Somali fighting Alshabaab and they have suceeded. This is first major terror attack in Nairobi since 2013/2014. Alshabab territory has shrunk and they are on their way out.
Kazikazi:
How many Kenyan soldiers have died in Somalia? Too many! America is there to help you,Ethiopian army and the AU is there.But you are dying like flies! To make matters worse Al shabaab are parading your dead soldiers just to prove and remove any doubts of your weakness.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 10:18am On Jan 16, 2019
Some of you don't realise the precise nature of the war we're facing. Its a looongggg undeclared war involving secret players that possibly may never end as long as we continue generating enough centrifugal force to dictate out own socioeconomic forces away from the usual political,economic and military Western control mechanisms .
Read this!

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 10:19am On Jan 16, 2019
Yobeezy:


I asked a question and nobody has responded yet.

Sorry dude,no idea.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 10:22am On Jan 16, 2019
rvp2018:
What did you want the soldiers to do. To ran away like you ran from Amin in Kagera and had to get Uganda rebels on the frontline. Kenya soldiers are out in Somali fighting Alshabaab and they have suceeded. This is first major terror attack in Nairobi since 2013/2014. Alshabab territory has shrunk and they are on their way out.
Now, Kenyans have got their match! You talk and showcasing your military, while Al shabaab sends only 4 guys and kills dozens of your people.And by doing that,they are destroying your tourism.

Kenyans have got their match.4 men have paralyzed kibera republic.Your pride won't help you to fight All shabaab.Your military ranking which you repeatedly boasts won't help you.Your media which is busy writing the negative about TZ won't help you.

You have gotten a real match.Al shabaab makes Kenya look just an ordinary,poor,with a weak military

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:27am On Jan 16, 2019
We have been figting somalis since 1960s. There are not our match. Terror attacks are a reality now. All major cities are going to get hit by cowards like those who are targetting easy targets - unarmed civilians.

I know you're praying day and night for terror in kenya because you know you cannot otherwise compete with our tourism or in any other spheres.

You see we got to 2M plus tourist this year. You're still struggling to get to 1M and overstating their earnings smiley

You will remain a Tanzanian - a lazy primitive witchraft loving illeterate - and Kenya will remain a progressive nation.

Kazikazi:
Now, Kenyans have got their match! You talk and showcasing your military, while Al shabaab sends only 4 guys and kills dozens of your people.And by doing that,they are destroying your tourism.

Kenyans have got their match.4 men have paralyzed kibera republic.Your pride won't help you to fight All shabaab.Your military ranking which you repeatedly boasts won't help you.Your media which is busy writing the negative about TZ won't help you.

You have gotten a real match.Al shabaab makes Kenya look just an ordinary,poor,with a weak military

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:36am On Jan 16, 2019
The situation is now getting more complex with now the emergence of ISIS in Somalia who are looking to be Al Shabab's headache as they want piece of the Somalia nation too.
rvp2018:
What did you want the soldiers to do. To ran away like you ran from Amin in Kagera and had to get Uganda rebels on the frontline. Kenya soldiers are out in Somali fighting Alshabaab and they have suceeded. This is first major terror attack in Nairobi since 2013/2014. Alshabab territory has shrunk and they are on their way out.

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