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Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by WonderManly(m): 9:38am On Jan 18, 2019
writerights:
You may have also noticed that ASUU’s demands over the past 10 years has always been about earned allowances, release of fund for the revitalization of ‘public universities’, release of operational license to Nigerian University Employees Pension Company and a few more. It then beats my imagination why lecturers of state varsities would leave the rot in their own institutions to fight for the liberation of the federal universities.

A baffling example is the crisis-ridden Ladoke Akintola University of Technology, LAUTECH, which is now a shadow of its own self. One would thing such university, sitting comfortably at the middle of a huge financial crisis and which has wasted the youthful days of its students would sue for peace when all is done and dust. Instead, ASUU-LAUTECH, returning from a long, boring and not-too-yielding industrial action moved quickly in solidarism to join its national body in another unending wrangle that still has no end in sight. I doubt if even ASUU national body would have blamed ASUU-LAUTECH for opting out of the strike if it did. Thank Goodness angels ministered to these patriotic men and women, after about three years, they returned back to their line of duty last week, but would now be on strike only on Thursdays and Fridays.

I’ve wondered ceaselessly, why students of the better by far UNILORIN and Great Ife who have remained in school taking lectures and exams, rounding up a semester or session may later enjoy better infrastructures if ASUU struggle eventually pays off while 100L students of EKSU, OSU, ABSU and others would return back to their classrooms sitting on the ground to take lectures in the old, dilapidated structures on ground. Isn’t it unfair to these students that their state universities benefit next to nothing?

Many of these state owned university lecturers would return to the crisis ravaging their own schools after the strike and continue to manage it. On the other hand, federal schools continue to fix more air-conditioned systems, Wi-Fi, better libraries and cooler, siren environment while their students pay far less for just so much. Sad but true is many state owned schools don’t rely on government funds any longer including UNIOSUN, TASUED, OOU, etc. Could this then be blind solidarity?

It is indeed unfair for students of state owned universities to pay tuition as high as #150,000, almost the same amount their colleagues pay at Oduduwa and Redeemer’s university, only to be used as bargaining tools to fight for students of UNIBEN whose tuition is absolutely free and can only get better facilities. Therefore, why keep state university students at home?

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Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by Sheggy13(m): 9:43am On Jan 18, 2019
writerights:


I asked what benefit the state schools are getting. Is that too be a question to ask?
Have you heard of things like TETFUND, NEEDS Assessment, Revitalization of public universities (State and Federal)? If you have and know their origin, impact and importance especially as it concerns state universities, you would not be displaying your ignorance here, with this kind of thread you created.
Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by kennypedia(m): 9:55am On Jan 18, 2019
writerights:

The question before us does not query the legitimacy of state universities, it's rather seeking to know how much state owned universities gain from these numerous, thunderous strikes and if it's worth it.

And again, how does ASUU national fight in the interest of these state schools when they are drowning in a pool of crisis? How has the national body helped LAUTECH, EKSU, OOU DELSU and others.
This is a legitimate question. Most of the infrastructure in state universities were founded by the state why the ASUU and vice chancellors embezzle TETFund and PTDF
Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by linzeze(m): 10:01am On Jan 18, 2019
JimD:


Lies! State universities are more or less being funded on their own. FG allocation like Tetfund are called intervention. Why do you think they pay more than federal universities?
You pay more doesn't necessarily mean FG intervenes Less in your school.One thing you need to know is that,Funding comes from different angle.Feds attract funding(home and abroad) more than states.
Whatever thing you want to call it,just know FG funds 40-60 % of State Universities budget except maybe states that are well to do.
Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by linzeze(m): 10:04am On Jan 18, 2019
otokx:


Staff in some State universities earn more than their counterparts in Federal universities.
Staff in the same Level and cadre?
Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by zevous: 10:11am On Jan 18, 2019
theoldpretender:


1.No, ASUU strike won't cease under Atiku....and saying that Atiku is good for universities because he established one in his home state is like saying Buhari is good for universities too...since at least 4 were established under his administration.

2. The problem is, under the terms of the 2009 agreement., ASUU got a promise from FG to pay 3 trillion in extra funding for universites over the next 2 years. That funding has been beaten down to 1.1 trillion over 5 years.

3.With oil prices falling...Atiku is not going to get funding needed...

4.Plus...as far as I am concerned, Universities in Nigeria need more than 2 trillion annually just to keep fees low.

5.The real issue around the strike is that neither ASUU nor the government wants to face the cold reality of raised fees....instead they pretend we have the money, somehow...when we don't.

All your points from 1-4 is very correct but point number 5 is very wrong.. Nigeria has money. If the country was properly managed and reduced level of corruption and embezzlement, I'm telling you categorically Nigeria would be better than some European countries. The people in this country is our leader. If you look at the money they earn from allowances alone, talkless of salary and benefits after service you would understand that they are the ones bleeding the country dry.. The day we get it write in this country with leadership, then you would understand what a working society means.
Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by panpan(m): 10:15am On Jan 18, 2019
When the industrial action eventually ends, will the lecturers (state and federal) be paid for the period of the strike?
Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by linzeze(m): 10:19am On Jan 18, 2019
panpan:
When the industrial action eventually ends, will the lecturers (state and federal) be paid for the period of the strike?
They are being paid.
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Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by Slynation(m): 10:37am On Jan 18, 2019
linzeze:

You pay more doesn't necessarily mean FG intervenes Less in your school.One thing you need to know is that,Funding comes from different angle.Feds attract funding(home and abroad) more than states.
Whatever thing you want to call it,just know FG funds 40-60 % of State Universities budget except maybe states that are well to do.
Hmmm... i must confess u'r very badt grin Just look at the way u tackled OP in his own trend until baba sharap grin OP right now!!

Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by linzeze(m): 10:47am On Jan 18, 2019
Slynation:

Hmmm... i must confess u'r very badt grin Just look at the way u tackled OP in his own trend until baba sharap grin OP right now!!
No oh,that was not my intention.
The OP asked a question, I answered.
He was still trying to defend what isn't there.
We are all Here to Learn.

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Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by jeph19(m): 10:51am On Jan 18, 2019
School fees is been paid by student, dues are collected and money is allocated by the VC's and state government.
Then why and what cogent reason do state university give?

Delsu does not go on strike.
Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by linzeze(m): 11:00am On Jan 18, 2019
jeph19:
School fees is been paid by student, dues are collected and money is allocated by the VC's and state government.
Then why and what cogent reason do state university give?

Delsu does not go on strike.
Thinking States fund their Universities Independently means you don't know what you are talking about.

DELSU is not on strike doesn't mean the Lecturers don't connect with ASUU directly or indirectly.
No Man is an island you know.
Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by IprintMONEY: 11:18am On Jan 18, 2019
what are school fees and other levies used for
Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by Sammy07: 11:21am On Jan 18, 2019
linzeze:

Thinking States fund their Universities Independently means you don't know what you are talking about.

DELSU is not on strike doesn't mean the Lecturers don't connect with ASUU directly or indirectly.
No Man is an island you know.

wow! I learnt something today..
I usually think states fund their universities by themselves....
pls, what of all those huge fees students are paying in state institutions, is it going to state government or ASUU or the institution itself?
Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by mechanics(m): 11:30am On Jan 18, 2019
Lolz, maybe you should ask Prof Biodun the question, but to me they will still benefit, because the state will also pay them their allowance, if not, the strike will still continue.
Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by linzeze(m): 11:36am On Jan 18, 2019
Sammy07:


wow! I learnt something today..
I usually think states fund their universities by themselves....
pls, what of all those huge fees students are paying in state institutions, is it going to state government or ASUU or the institution itself?
To the institution.
To Maintain services and other other things.
ASUU is just a Union of Lecturers.we have other unions in the University.

FG tries to intervene for states Universities.If not,Most of them would be on Lock and Key.
Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by delexy123: 11:47am On Jan 18, 2019
linzeze:

You pay more doesn't necessarily mean FG intervenes Less in your school.One thing you need to know is that,Funding comes from different angle.Feds attract funding(home and abroad) more than states.
Whatever thing you want to call it,just know FG funds 40-60 % of State Universities budget except maybe states that are well to do.
Hmmn...I have been following this thread especially your discussion...the numbers you throw out seem to be more of assumptions rather than facts.
At first you said federal government funds 60% of state university budget then you backtracked to 40-60%....Please can you link us with the site(s) where you pulled out the statistics from? If you can't then I urge you to stop spreading misinformation either intentionally or through sheer ignorance.
Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by Brukx(m): 11:56am On Jan 18, 2019
IprintMONEY:
what are school fees and other levies used for

Lol. You think school fees can fund the institution for a whole year. You have any idea how many staffs are employed by the institution?

By the way, not all of the school fees is allocated to the institution. Check the IGR of your state
Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by linzeze(m): 12:22pm On Jan 18, 2019
delexy123:
Hmmn...I have been following this thread...especially your discussion and the numbers you throw out seem to be more of assumptions rather than facts.
At first you said federal government funds 60% of state university budget then you backtracked to 40-60%....Please can you link us with the site(s) where you pulled out the statistics from? If you can't then I urge you to stop spreading misinformation either intentionally or through sheer ignorance.

You are right about the stats.i am sorry about quoting that percentage.

But that doesn't negate the FACT that States Universities are Independent of FG funding.
Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by Sportwin(m): 12:31pm On Jan 18, 2019
linzeze:

To the institution.
To Maintain services and other other things.
ASUU is just a Union of Lecturers.we have other unions in the University.

FG tries to intervene for states Universities.If not,Most of them would be on Lock and Key.

it then means these state schools deh smag money oo


collect 200k from 5k students or more
build nothing

chai
Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by linzeze(m): 12:39pm On Jan 18, 2019
Sportwin:


it then means these state schools deh smag money oo


collect 200k from 5k students or more
build nothing

chai


Infrastructure and others no be beans.How many infrastructure your Money go reach build. grin grin

What about some states weh their School fees de Low.
I think it depends on where the University de attract Funding from apart from the Government and School fees.
In all these,even say money no de.some governors go still want the school fees to de Low so that the poor would attend.
Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by Sportwin(m): 12:42pm On Jan 18, 2019
linzeze:

Infrastructure and others no be beans.How many infrastructure your Money go reach build. grin grin

What about some states weh their School fees de Low.
I think it depends on where the University de attract Funding from apart from the Government and School fees.
In all these,even say money no de.some governors go still want the school fees to de Low so that the poor would attend.

at least e go reach bulid 3 bedroom bungalow make dem call am
class na or offic e

make something sha deh ground


make dem no worry i don deh cotonou

when i come back with foreign accent nw una go respect me
i am schooling abroad nw


pple no go complain like that
Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by linzeze(m): 12:49pm On Jan 18, 2019
grin
Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by linzeze(m): 12:50pm On Jan 18, 2019
Sportwin:


at least e go reach bulid 3 bedroom bungalow make dem call am
class na or offic e

make something sha deh ground


make dem no worry i don deh cotonou

when i come back with foreign accent nw una go respect me
i am schooling abroad nw


pple no go complain like that
Hahahaha grin
Guy it is not easy Expenses too Much..like Labs, Equipments,NEPA or Diesel bills.

Except dm go attract Fund from TETFUND.
But you know say Corruption sef de University.

In all, University Education de Expensive..so make we just de manage.
Una de even Try sef..200k damn!

I knw as i Hustle to get School fees plus the one my parents Give me.
Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by Emmy3(m): 1:00pm On Jan 18, 2019
DELSU not on any strike.
Session is going on smoothly.
Exam starts on Monday the 21st
Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by Lumig: 1:18pm On Jan 18, 2019
writerights:

The question before us does not query the legitimacy of state universities, it's rather seeking to know how much state owned universities gain from these numerous, thunderous strikes and if it's worth it.

And again, how does ASUU national fight in the interest of these state schools when they are drowning in a pool of crisis? How has the national body helped LAUTECH, EKSU, OOU DELSU and others.
Gbam! God bless you
Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by urahara(m): 1:51pm On Jan 18, 2019
theoldpretender:


1.No, ASUU strike won't cease under Atiku....and saying that Atiku is good for universities because he established one in his home state is like saying Buhari is good for universities too...since at least 4 were established under his administration.

2. The problem is, under the terms of the 2009 agreement., ASUU got a promise from FG to pay 3 trillion in extra funding for universites over the next 2 years. That funding has been beaten down to 1.1 trillion over 5 years.

3.With oil prices falling...Atiku is not going to get funding needed...

4.Plus...as far as I am concerned, Universities in Nigeria need more than 2 trillion annually just to keep fees low.

5.The real issue around the strike is that neither ASUU nor the government wants to face the cold reality of raised fees....instead they pretend we have the money, somehow...when we don't.


That can never ever happen

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Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by Valnos: 2:00pm On Jan 18, 2019
Hmmm. ASUU
Re: Why Exactly Are State Universities On ASUU Strike? by professorchuks(m): 2:07pm On Jan 18, 2019
Again I say... DELSU is the best state university in the whole of Nigeria(if not the best university in Nigeria). Exam is starting on Monday and some schools are still doing compulsory holiday. Abeg joor, to all my fellow delsuite, I'm proud of us. Good luck to all of us

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