TheShopKeeper:
Democrats talking about impeachment after latest report about Cohen's lying to Congress

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/01/democrats-cite-buzzfeed-report-cause-impeachment/580777/

Late Thursday night, BuzzFeed News published a report that, if true, could prove historic: President Donald Trump allegedly directed his then–personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, to lie to Congress about a real-estate deal he was pursuing in Moscow during the 2016 election. Trump immediately denied the story, but for many Democrats, including those who had previously cautioned against impeaching the president before Special Counsel Robert Mueller produces his findings in the Russia investigation, the report was cause to consider proceeding with impeachment before the Russia probe is finished.

“If the @BuzzFeed story is true, President Trump must resign or be impeached,” Democratic Representative Joaquin Castro, a member of the House Intelligence Committee, wrote on Twitter. Democratic Senator Chris Murphy weighed in, too. “If Mueller does have multiple sources confirming Trump directed Cohen to lie to Congress, then we need to know this ASAP,” he wrote. “Mueller shouldn’t end his inquiry, but it’s about time for him to show Congress his cards before it’s too late for us to act.” Democratic Senator Jeff Merkley followed up on Friday morning: “If this report of Trump suborning false testimony is confirmed, then Trump committed a felony and must resign or be impeached,” he wrote. “This is obstruction of justice,” Democratic Representative David Cicilline, a member of the House Judiciary Committee, told CNN. “If the facts are true, this is suborning perjury. It’s an impeachable offense.” Representative Jamie Raskin, a member of House leadership, told CNN, “This is a completely impeachable offense, if this report is true.” He said Congress would need to hear from “everybody who was involved” in the alleged conspiracy before moving forward with impeachment.

You see what I was talking about? Now even the Special Counsel has denied the story from Buzz feed as "Inaccurate"..this was just recently.

BraniacX:
Micheal Cohen confessed to have contracted IT specialist john gauger to ring online polls for the benefit of and at the request of Donald trump on multiple occasions and ended up not paying him fully on at least one occasion

https://www.facebook.com/TheYoungTurks/videos/375156129731814/

And did senator Lindsey graham just infer trump is dumb? #one_pager_kinda_guy!

https://www.facebook.com/210277954204/posts/10156242614009205/

Also why doesn't Mitch McConnell want to put up the Democratic sponsored government spending bill up for a vote on the senate floor? Is he afraid many of his Republicans will vote for it?

Turns out to be fake news..Una no dey tire??

obixcel:
You see what I was talking about? Now even the Special Counsel has denied the story from Buzz feed as "Inaccurate"..this was just recently.

Lol...

“Inaccurate” and “False” are two different things.

Robert Mueller statement does not explicitly state that the Entire Buzzfeed Report is “False”.

Rather what Robert Mueller Statement does is carefully disagree with certain portions of the report as regards to an eye witness account.

Robert Mueller Public Statement was carefully worded. It states “the characterization of documents and testimony are not accurate”

That’s quite different from stating that the Entire Buzzfeed Report is “False”

Pay attention to the keywords “Inaccurate” & “False”

obixcel:
Turns out to be fake news..Una no dey tire??

Lol...

Trumpy Supporter...

In Legal Language “Inaccurate” does not mean “False”

According to Robert Mueller Statement he only disputed some of the information about the evidence that was obtained.

Robert Mueller did not dispute that Trump instructed Cohen to lie to Congress.

But as always Trump & Trumpy Supporters are too slow to understand the basic differences...

obixcel:
You see what I was talking about? Now even the Special Counsel has denied the story from Buzz feed as "Inaccurate"..this was just recently.

Lol...

I never read that Robert Mueller disputed that Trump convinced Micheal Cohen to lie to Congress on his behalf DID YOU?

Excepts from the proposed articles of Impeachment of Former President Richard Nixon:

“False or Misleading Statements for the purpose of misleading the people of the United States to believe a complete investigation cleared the Executive Branch OR Election Committee of Wrongdoing!”

Donald J Trump has made such declarations about three times already & still counting...

LUCAS99:
Excepts from the proposed articles of Impeachment of Former President Richard Nixon:

“False or Misleading Statements for the purpose of misleading the people of the United States to believe a complete investigation cleared the Executive Branch OR Election Committee of Wrongdoing!”

Donald J Trump has made such declarations about three times already & still counting.

And can you please mention the three times he said a "complete" investigation has cleared the executive branch? Sometimes I get a headache trying to make sense out of some of the utter nonsense some of you liberals post here. Why don't they go on and impeach him since he has already committed three impeachable offences according to you. What is tying your liberal politicians hands?

obixcel:
You see what I was talking about? Now even the Special Counsel has denied the story from Buzz feed as "Inaccurate"..this was just recently.

Just as I predicted bro. Just watch over the next few weeks as this story dies a natural death and these clowns jump on another one to masturbate on

Anduku:

And can you please mention the three times he said a "complete" investigation has cleared the executive branch? Sometimes I get a headache trying to make sense out of some of the utter nonsense some of you liberals post here. Why don't they go on and impeach him since he has already committed three impeachable offences according to you. What is tying your liberal politicians hands?

How many times has trump tweeted that the Robert Mueller investigation is a total Witch hunt?

How many times has trump said over & over again that he is completely innocent & has not committed any wrongdoing?

Do you want me to dig up the President’s Past tweets starting from last year?

Anduku:

Just as I predicted bro. Just watch over the next few weeks as this story dies a natural death and these clowns jump on another one to masturbate on

Did you even read the report?

In Legal Terms “Inaccurate” & “False” are two entirely different things...

Anduku:

Just as I predicted bro. Just watch over the next few weeks as this story dies a natural death and these clowns jump on another one to masturbate on

Robert Mueller could have released a statement simply saying “ Micheal Cohen did not tell us that President Trump asked him to lie”

But Robert Mueller didn’t do that...

That should tell you something...

Trumpy supporters after the Bombshell Report Tonight...

LUCAS99:


How many times has trump tweeted that the Robert Mueller investigation is a total Witch hunt?

How many times has trump said over & over again that he is completely innocent & has not committed any wrongdoing?

Do you want me to dig up the President’s Past tweets starting from last year?

Just look at you!! You are so desperate to nail Trump that you can't even pause to read the wordings of your own charge against him.

“False or Misleading Statements for the purpose of misleading the people of the United States to believe a complete investigation cleared the Executive Branch OR Election Committee of Wrongdoing!”

Take note of the bolded, it simply means trying to mislead people to believe that an investigation that has already been completed cleared you of wrongdoings. Do you get the huge difference? Mueller is yet to complete his investigation and Trump has never said Mueller's investigation or any other investigation cleared him of wrong doing. He has simply been saying he is innocent of everything he is been investigated for

LUCAS99:


Robert Mueller could have released a statement simply saying “ Micheal Cohen did not tell us that President Trump asked him to lie”

But Robert Mueller didn’t do that...

That should tell you something...

It tells me nothing other than that you liberals have allowed your imaginations to run away with you again. Mueller is a lawyer and spoke like one when he used the word innacurate. Innacurate means not correct which literally means LIE!!!!!!. Mueller didn't say some parts were accurate, he didn't even give any credence to any part of it so how you come to conclude that innacurate means True is beyond me

Anduku:

Just look at you!! You are so desperate to nail Trump that you can't even pause to read the wordings of your own charge against him.

“False or Misleading Statements for the purpose of misleading the people of the United States to believe a complete investigation cleared the Executive Branch OR Election Committee of Wrongdoing!”

Take note of the bolded, it simply means trying to mislead people to believe that an investigation that has already been completed cleared you of wrongdoings. Do you get the huge difference? Mueller is yet to complete his investigation and Trump has never said Mueller's investigation or any other investigation cleared him of wrong doing. He has simply been saying he is innocent of everything he is been investigated for

Trump has always said he is innocent even before Robert Mueller began his investigation...

If he is so sure of himself why doesn’t he wait until the Special Counsel drops his bombshell Report & if he truly innocent he will be exonerated...

There is absolutely no need for him to declare that he has always been innocent even from day 1...

Allow the Special Counsel to Complete his investigation and if you’re truly innocent then the truth will come out

I only stand for the truth...

If Donald J Trump has committed impeachable offense at the end of the Special Counsel Investigation then he deserves to be impeached no exceptions...

Anduku:

It tells me nothing other than that you liberals have allowed your imaginations to run away with you again. Mueller is a lawyer and spoke like one when he used the word innacurate. Innacurate means not correct which literally means LIE!!!!!!. Mueller didn't say some parts were accurate, he didn't even give any credence to any part of it so how you come to conclude that innacurate means True is beyond me

This is absolutely not true...

We’re speaking in Legal terms...

“Inaccurate” & “False” are entirely two different things...

LUCAS99:


This is absolutely not true...

We’re speaking in Legal terms...

“Inaccurate” & “False” are entirely two different things...

So innacurate means what then?

LUCAS99:


Trump has always said he is innocent even before Robert Mueller began his investigation...

If he is so sure of himself why doesn’t he wait until the Special Counsel drops his bombshell Report & if he truly innocent he will be exonerated...

There is absolutely no need for him to declare that he has always been innocent even from day 1...

Allow the Special Counsel to Complete his investigation and if you’re truly innocent then the truth will come out

I only stand for the truth...

If f Donald J Trump has committed impeachable offense at the end of the Special Counsel Investigation then he deserves to be impeached no exceptions...

So if you have been accused of something, you have to wait until an investigation is completed before you can defend your innocence?

Anduku:

It tells me nothing other than that you liberals have allowed your imaginations to run away with you again. Mueller is a lawyer and spoke like one when he used the word innacurate. Innacurate means not correct which literally means LIE!!!!!!. Mueller didn't say some parts were accurate, he didn't even give any credence to any part of it so how you come to conclude that innacurate means True is beyond me

This is Robert Mueller Statement tonight regarding the Bombshell Report by Buzzfeed:

“BuzzFeed’s description of specific statements to the Special Counsel’s Office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen’s Congressional testimony are not accurate,”

LUCAS99:


This is Robert Mueller Statement tonight regarding the Bombshell Report by Buzzfeed:

“BuzzFeed’s description of specific statements to the Special Counsel’s Office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen’s Congressional testimony are not accurate,”

I have read it before and it's clear he is saying buzzfeed lied. There's no sugarcoating it

Anduku:

So if you have been accused of something, you have to wait until an investigation is completed before you can defend your innocence?

You can make a single statement regarding the ongoing investigation & leave it at that.

There is absolutely no need for you to keep repeating yourself over & over again...

Doing so only show you’re trying to cover up an incident which the general public is unaware of...

Anduku:

I have read it before and it's clear he is saying buzzfeed lied. There's no sugarcoating it

He never said Buzzfeed lied...

Show me the WORD “LIED”

The only WORD I see is “NOT ACCURATE”

Life is easy...

Stop making it complicated...

LUCAS99:


You can make a single statement regarding the ongoing investigation & leave it at that.

There is absolutely no need for you to keep repeating yourself over & over again...

Doing so only show you’re trying to cover up an incident which the general public is unaware of...

There is no law that prohibits an individual from making as many statements or tweets as he wants declaring his innocence over an ongoing investigation. If he chooses to make one or many, it's his choice!! He hasn't broken any law by doing so

LUCAS99:


He never said Buzzfeed lied...

Show me the WORD “LIED”

The only WORD I see is “NOT ACCURATE”

Life is easy...

Stop making it complicated...

You are the one making things complicated, what does "not accurate" mean? If I say what you said is not accurate, what does that mean?

Anduku:

So innacurate means what then?

God Forbid...

But Let’s use you as an example...

Let’s say you were accused of Murder...

Let’s say no one was present but based on Video Evidence it was proven by the District Attorney that you used a Knife to kill your victim.

Now a Newspaper publishes a report regarding the Murder but instead states that a Gun was used in the deadly Attack...

The District Attorney office releases a press statement describing certain events in the report as not accurate...

So in this scenario the Newspaper Report is “Inaccurate”

But that doesn’t mean that the Newspaper Report is False...

The only mistake was that the Newspaper reported that you used a Gun to kill your Victim when in actuality you used a Knife.

Anduku:

There is no law that prohibits an individual from making as many statements or tweets as he wants declaring his innocence over an ongoing investigation. If he chooses to make one or many, it's his choice!! He hasn't broken any law by doing so

He certainly hasn’t broken any record...

But very very usual for a sitting President to make such amount of tweets within a short timeframe...

Only time will tell what President Donald J Trump is hiding...

LUCAS99:


God Forbid...

But Let’s use you as an example...

Let’s say you were accused of Murder...

Let’s say no one was present but based on Video Evidence it was proven by the District Attorney that you used a Knife to kill your victim.

Now a Newspaper publishes a report regarding the Murder but instead states that a Gun was used in the deadly Attack...

The District Attorney office releases a press statement describing certain events in the report as not accurate...

So in this scenario the Newspaper Report is “Inaccurate”

But that doesn’t mean that the Newspaper was lying...

The only mistake was that the Newspaper reported that you used a Gun to kill your Victim when in actuality you used a Knife.

So if a media house said you used a gun, that means they LIED!!!! You don't have to make this long epistle to explain the meaning of the words "not accurate", they are two simple English words that are synonymous with wrong, false, lie. Moreover your analogy totally does not reflect what is happening here because Mueller's statement doesn't even say Trump is guilty of some other things just not the ones buzzfeed claimed. His statement was clear, buzzfeed's description of events and documents were not accurate and that's it. Buzzfeed lied!!! You're over reaching when you try to start imagining things that weren't said and trying to claim you know what is on Mueller's mind.

Anduku:

So if a media house said you used a gun, that means they LIED!!!! You don't have to make this long epistle to explain the meaning of the words "not accurate", they are two simple English words that are synonymous with wrong, false, lie. Moreover your analogy totally does not reflect what is happening here because Mueller's statement doesn't even say Trump is guilty of some other things just not the ones buzzfeed claimed. His statement was clear, buzzfeed's description of events and documents were not accurate and that's it. Buzzfeed lied!!! You're over reaching when you try to start imagining things that weren't said and trying to claim you know what is on Mueller's mind.

Again you’re putting words in Special Counsel Robert Mueller Mouth

He never said that Buzzfeed “LIED”

Why didn’t Special Counsel Robert Mueller use the word “FALSE” Rather he worded his statement carefully and choose the word “NOT ACCURATE”

That should tell you something!!!

LUCAS99:


Again you’re putting words in Special Counsel Robert Mueller Mouth

He never said that Buzzfeed “LIED”

Why didn’t Special Counsel Robert Mueller use the word “FALSE” Rather he worded his statement carefully and choose the word “NOT ACCURATE”

That should tell you something!!!

Not accurate, not correct, false, lie, wrong are all synonyms that mean the same thing.

Anduku:

So if a media house said you used a gun, that means they LIED!!!! You don't have to make this long epistle to explain the meaning of the words "not accurate", they are two simple English words that are synonymous with wrong, false, lie. Moreover your analogy totally does not reflect what is happening here because Mueller's statement doesn't even say Trump is guilty of some other things just not the ones buzzfeed claimed. His statement was clear, buzzfeed's description of events and documents were not accurate and that's it. Buzzfeed lied!!! You're over reaching when you try to start imagining things that weren't said and trying to claim you know what is on Mueller's mind.

A Media House did infact report that you committed Murder which is an accurate Statement...

The only “inaccurate” Statement in the Media Report was that you used a Gun.

When infact you used a Knife.

Did you commit Murder? YES

Did you use a Gun? No, you used a Knife

Simply because you used a Knife instead of a Gun doesn’t make the Media Report False neither does that exonerate you from the Capital Punishment which you deserve accordingly based on the Law of the Land...

Q.E.D.

Anduku:

Not accurate, not correct, false, lie, wrong are all synonyms that mean the same thing.

We’re in speaking in Legal Terms...

The context matters...

That would make a whole lot of difference...

This is Criminal Law 101...

If you don’t get it here then you can’t even be a Lawyer...

Every statement you make must be dissected & interpreted on its own Merits...

Going to sleep right now...

It’s about 2:30 AM on the East Coast...

We will continue this discussion some other time...