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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by KingRex1(m): 3:05pm On Jan 19, 2019
wura2020:


Can you explain why one should not use current account to purchase treasury bills?
Current accounts are good for receiving loans. Since its meant for regular inflows and outflow of funds. It's shows credit worthiness too. CAM charges are also incurred here.

Savings account as the name implies is meant for saving and interest accruals. It's stable and good for investments, no charges unless violated
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Creamz(m): 3:31pm On Jan 19, 2019
KingRex1:

Yeah, every interest rate is on a per annum basis. So if you don't do a 364 day investment, you shouldn't calculate on the interest rate proposed to you.

That's the main mistake many people make in short mid term investments like this.


I almost felt I was ripped off been the first time for me. Thanks everyone for the explanations.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Jessglam: 5:29pm On Jan 19, 2019
Am bank shopping at the moment as first bank is not giving me a good secondary market rate and time is money. Please are there costs associated with transfers from one bank to another? Thank you. Please advise
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Fuhrerfran6(m): 5:36pm On Jan 19, 2019
Hi TB Fam,

Am a low key follower since last year and decided to stash 2m on TB this year.

I used my zenith account because i didnt have time to open a stanbic bank account and didnt want to waste more time.

I suscribed for 365 days tenor and the marketer said the bank will bid on my behalf.

Yesterday the 2m was debitted and i was credited with #253.853k. Can someone please help me with the calculatiins, I have tried myself but got confused midway.

Thanks
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by C505: 5:47pm On Jan 19, 2019
unite4real:


From information I gathered, it's around 14.3%. others should confirm. It wasn't close to the closed rate of 15%.

Yes you're right. It's 14.3%

That's what they calculated for me too

Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Chisco27: 5:54pm On Jan 19, 2019
Agbaletu:

Maybe he used current account for the TBill. It is not advisable to use current account.

It was a savings account that he used. From what I gathered from this page the bank charge should be 0.125*7M=875,000.
Am I the one who isn't doing the maths right?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by C505: 5:56pm On Jan 19, 2019
Now that I see the bank stop rate is fair but they're not being professional, I'll put my coming 2M in the secondary market since I can't place a bid of my choice in the primaries
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jamih: 5:57pm On Jan 19, 2019
Chisco27:


It was a savings account that he used. From what I gathered from this page the bank charge should be 0.125*7M=875,000.
Am I the one who isn't doing the maths right?
Charge is 0.125%,i.e 0.00125*7m =8750
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by C505: 5:58pm On Jan 19, 2019
Chisco27:


It was a savings account that he used. From what I gathered from this page the bank charge should be 0.125*7M=875,000.
Am I the one who isn't doing the maths right?

Aren't you suppose to divide the 0.125% by 100?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Chisco27: 6:05pm On Jan 19, 2019
jamih:

Charge is 0.125%,i.e 0.00125*7m =8750

Okay. Thank you. It means he was ripped off then.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jamih: 6:07pm On Jan 19, 2019
Fuhrerfran6:
Hi TB Fam,

Am a low key follower since last year and decided to stash 2m on TB this year.

I used my zenith account because i didnt have time to open a stanbic bank account and didnt want to waste more time.

I suscribed for 365 days tenor and the marketer said the bank will bid on my behalf.

Yesterday the 2m was debitted and i was credited with #253.853k. Can someone please help me with the calculatiins, I have tried myself but got confused midway.

Thanks
I guess ur bank bid rate was 12.6% if you are credited with 253,853k for a 364 days tenor.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jamih: 6:11pm On Jan 19, 2019
Chisco27:


Okay. Thank you. It means he was ripped off then.
Advice him to check with his bank for clarification. 21k is too much.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by unite4real: 6:12pm On Jan 19, 2019
Fuhrerfran6:
Hi TB Fam,

Am a low key follower since last year and decided to stash 2m on TB this year.

I used my zenith account because i didnt have time to open a stanbic bank account and didnt want to waste more time.

I suscribed for 365 days tenor and the marketer said the bank will bid on my behalf.

Yesterday the 2m was debitted and i was credited with #253.853k. Can someone please help me with the calculatiins, I have tried myself but got confused midway.

Thanks

You probably got a tenor that is not up to 364 days. The interest you posted shows about 12.7% for 364 days. But since the interest rate cannot be so ripped off when 182 days closed at over 13%, I guess you should find out how many days done for you. It's obviously not 364 nor 182. I guess some 300 plus days.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Fuhrerfran6(m): 6:22pm On Jan 19, 2019
unite4real:


You probably got a tenor that is not up to 364 days. The interest you posted shows about 12.7% for 364 days. But since the interest rate cannot be so ripped off when 182 days closed at over 13%, I guess you should find out how many days done for you. It's obviously not 364 nor 182. I guess some 300 plus days.

Thanks bro...i made a typo error, i actually meant to type 283k.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by unite4real: 6:35pm On Jan 19, 2019
Fuhrerfran6:


Thanks bro...i made a typo error, i actually meant to type 283k.


That should be around 14.2%
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Fuhrerfran6(m): 6:44pm On Jan 19, 2019
unite4real:


That should be around 14.2%

Thanks.

M sure switching to stanbic in my next investment.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Agbaletu: 6:50pm On Jan 19, 2019
unite4real:


That should be around 14.2%
Yeah. Zenith Bank gave 14.25 for 364 days.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by alezzy13: 8:52pm On Jan 19, 2019
C505:


Yes you're right. It's 14.3%

That's what they calculated for me too

Which bank is that? Very detailed
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by C505: 9:41pm On Jan 19, 2019
alezzy13:


Which bank is that? Very detailed

Stanbic
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by OgogoroFreak(m): 10:17pm On Jan 19, 2019
Eaze66:


Thanks for d reply. So first bank short paid me! Like N N1,750 after bank charges of N130??
They charge custody fee
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Akin3891: 10:59pm On Jan 19, 2019
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Gbam. U took it frm my mouth already, nothing like 6.6 in ur case, simply use the 13.1 intrest rate to calculate whatever number of days you subscribed to and you will arrive at a correct result.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Akin3891: 11:03pm On Jan 19, 2019
Agbaletu:

Maybe he used current account for the TBill. It is not advisable to use current account.

Nothing like Bleep, i use current acc with first bank and the charges is fair enough that i don't even have to go tru the stress to calculate
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Chisco27: 12:42am On Jan 20, 2019
jamih:

Advice him to check with his bank for clarification. 21k is too much.

He did tonight. The customer care agent told him that Access's bank charge is.. 0.35% from 365 days.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Agbaletu: 7:46am On Jan 20, 2019
Akin3891:


Nothing like that, i use current acc with first bank and the charges is fair enough that i don't even have to go tru the stress to calculate
OK
I hate unnecessary back and forth argument.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by tetula123(m): 9:51am On Jan 20, 2019
I have really learnt a lot from this thread..
can someone please educate me on the difference between the primary and secondary market
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 10:35am On Jan 20, 2019
tetula123:
I have really learnt a lot from this thread..
can someone please educate me on the difference between the primary and secondary market
that mean u didn't learn ,all possible question has been answered ...primary market is at the main auction while secondary for person opting out

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jamih: 11:51am On Jan 20, 2019
Chisco27:


He did tonight. The customer care agent told him that Access's bank charge is.. 0.35% from 365 days.
That is too much, even at that, 0.35℅ is 24500.
Maybe the customer care just gave any figure.
He should ask other officers in access bank about their charges on current account, in case of next time.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by nomad26: 12:30pm On Jan 20, 2019
Please has anyone tried to open a Stanbic account online without any wahala?I want to open a Stanbic account via this link https://instantaccount.stanbicibtc.com:9663/index.html and move money from my Gtb for tbills investment. Are there any restrictions on deposits/transfers to this kind of account? I don't want to enter one chance that's why I'm asking for feedback before I proceed o.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by tetula123(m): 12:32pm On Jan 20, 2019
ahiboilandgas:
that mean u didn't learn ,all possible question has been answered ...primary market is at the main auction while secondary for person opting out
thanks for the insight.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DrGoodman: 1:47pm On Jan 20, 2019
I Don miss plenty!

Please the gurus in the house, quick one, if I put N1m in tbills tomorrow in Stanbic and leave it till 1 year, how much will it give me in total. Pls help a brother out before I start thinking of buying another yeye car again.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Gavrelino123: 1:54pm On Jan 20, 2019
ahiboilandgas:
that mean u didn't learn ,all possible question has been answered ...primary market is at the main auction while secondary for person opting out
Hapoy sunday...Has GTBANK updated your Treasury Bills online Bank statement.?
Mine hasn't been updated.

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