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Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by larryking540: 9:12am On Jan 20, 2019 |
U all remind me of when I asked my ex to take pills the next day after a raw sex And after break up, she said she did abortion for me,, ,,,,,me con confuse o |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by daveP(m): 9:13am On Jan 20, 2019 |
Blood is Life, and the foetus has blood, so yes it is. cos killing has to entail the spilling of blood.... i wish i have time, but ill leave it this simple. The foetus actually experiemces pain and discomfort and responds to stimuli, it breathes and has a heartbeat.... 1 Like |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by firstolalekan(m): 9:13am On Jan 20, 2019 |
johnydon22:That's just your perception and opinion Will you or allow your wife to give birth to a child that will come out having down syndrome? Or conjoined twins? |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by LordReed(m): 9:14am On Jan 20, 2019 |
johnydon22: Who made it sacred? |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by EternalBeing: 9:18am On Jan 20, 2019 |
Yes. Confirm it here: https://www.nairaland.com/4971620/what-purpose-earth-why-here#74935714 |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by Nobody: 9:19am On Jan 20, 2019 |
Miscarriage is what |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by LordReed(m): 9:20am On Jan 20, 2019 |
johnydon22: Does this cover cases like rape, abduction and deceit? What of if the foetus is unviable eg has debilitating congenital defects? How about nature's spontaneous abortions? |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by Blessing654: 9:21am On Jan 20, 2019 |
See prove below
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Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by DonGtoG1(m): 9:22am On Jan 20, 2019 |
johnydon22: Matured and positive thinking people like you and others, are the very reason/reasons not to think that one can't benefit from nairaland. You are noted. 1 Like |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by samista: 9:23am On Jan 20, 2019 |
budaatum:Lie, a fetus is not just your body, it's another living human |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by samista: 9:24am On Jan 20, 2019 |
Abortion is murder!!! |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by Godskidk(m): 9:25am On Jan 20, 2019 |
Heathen777:If I should chip in something, Biblically speaking, God views the fetus same way he views an adult... In his law to ancient Israel, acceptable punishment for causing harm to your fellow man was "tooth for tooth, eye for eye, and life for life" At Exodus 21:22-24, God applied that punishment to harm caused to the fetus in a pregnant woman... It reads, (NWT 2015) "“22 If men should struggle with each other and they hurt a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but no fatality results, the offender must pay the damages imposed on him by the husband of the woman; and he must pay it through the judges. 23 But if a fatality does occur, then you must give life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, blow for blow." So, it is obvious that God, the creator of human life views the life of an unborn child as precious as that of a full-fledged human... Therefore, from the Biblical and even the moral point of view, Abortion is the same as Murder... budaatum:It's part of your body, yes... But the owner will surely ask you of it.... |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by DonGtoG1(m): 9:26am On Jan 20, 2019 |
Joromi12: It's a sad happening to the person that had it. I have never heard of someone that deliberately or happily had miscarriage. |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by Jokovic1(m): 9:28am On Jan 20, 2019 |
i really don't know why nairaland is becoming demonic this morning when two people have sex, what do you think will be the end product? a baby right ? so where is the baby ? as an evidence that intimacy took place please sex is not an exercise go to the gym if you want to repair worn out tissues once you have sex and can't account for the baby you have committed murder if you like, call it any name to suit your conscience |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by mamotalk: 9:30am On Jan 20, 2019 |
I believe that abortion is equivalent to murder in as much human life bigins at birth. The encyclical, Humanae Vitae, by Pope Paul vi takes a firm stand on the protection of the sanctity of life. Thus if we all agree that foetus is a stage in human life, it posseses the basic characteristics as well as the potentials of man. |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by Nobody: 9:30am On Jan 20, 2019 |
Morally, i don't know the answer. (hence the debate) Religiously, people are quick to say its a sin. (Trust me if you truly obey all that is written in the Bible, you would end up in prison, that's how outdated religion is) Legally, it's still open for wide debate worldwide and have never seen a woman convicted and sentenced for abortion. Demographically, You doing the right thing not to overpopulate the earth. Gender based theory - it's none of your business what any female tends to do with her body so long as she isn't posing a threat to you. Let her enjoy her right to life and liberty. If truly all pregnancies were planned out, at the right time by the intending parents, the number of existing bastards will drastically reduce hence triggering the decline of urchin(street touts) and other desperados with no family and father figure but ready to do evil just to get paid. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by LordIsaac(m): 9:33am On Jan 20, 2019 |
Nigerians have become so indoctrinated that many of us can no longer reason objectively. How can ingenuity come from such a mental state? I think it is more wicked.to birth a child one is incapable of raising. Many kids in Nigeria are just enduring...the worse sin than abortion is bringing a child to this world who will not just be a problem to himself for want of proper care but a nuisance to other people in future. |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by adelnehis(m): 9:34am On Jan 20, 2019 |
I don't think abortion is legally murder. Our fundamental human rights give us the right to life. But human rights are only given to people at birth. They can't give a non-existent person human rights. So it isn't murder because the child has no birth certificate. Hence in the eyes of the law, it shouldn't be counted as murder. But it's still morally wrong and a big sin.
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Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by Chukalemon(m): 9:34am On Jan 20, 2019 |
abortion is a big murder no doubt about that . because that is an innocent soul you are destroying |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by PassingShot(m): 9:35am On Jan 20, 2019 |
frosbel2:Take note at the correction - they both have expected and intended outcome. To your questions: Abortion is same as pre-meditated murde There are few instances when abortion is permissible - rape, fetus carrying diseases that could pose danger to the mother's life, etc Same as one above. |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by Nobody: 9:36am On Jan 20, 2019 |
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Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by michlins(m): 9:36am On Jan 20, 2019 |
My own is, don't bring a child into a world you are not ready to cater for. |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by LordReed(m): 9:39am On Jan 20, 2019 |
Ihedinobi3: Do you consider Numbers 5 frivolous grounds ie jealousy of a husband? Numbers 5 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by Ubdavis(m): 9:41am On Jan 20, 2019 |
Which is why rationality is key. If u practice what u belief naively, u might end up shooting ur salf in the foot, u might make decisions that will for ever plunge u into heart ache . |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by Uyi168: 9:49am On Jan 20, 2019 |
Jokovic1:... What about cases of rape?? |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by ajimo54(m): 9:50am On Jan 20, 2019 |
This is the most sensitive discourse. Please, shall we get things right. Murder and abortion are two different constructs. Murder is termination of a life external. Abortion is termination of a life internal. The external life is conscious while the internal is unconscious. The rationale behind taking an external Life execpt by Justice is not moral and legal. The rationale behind an internal life may not be legal in Nigeria but in certain places. Nevertheless, it is moral if to save the mother or if it as a result of rape. However, every life is important human, animal and plants except that of a criminal. There is no such thing as purification from sins. A killer must be killed-Justice. Abortion becomes murder if only it is done selfishly. |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by Nobody: 9:52am On Jan 20, 2019 |
Michellekabod1: So let's say someone gets raped and got pregnant as a result of that rape. Not only that, let's say she also got infected with HIV Aids as a result. Now is it advisable to still go ahead and deliver that baby knowing quite well the pains the mother will feel every time she looks at that child knowing how it all happened. Plus is it advisable to give birth to an HIV positive child adding to the threat of the environment? Just a question. |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by obembet(f): 9:53am On Jan 20, 2019 |
What about a situae where your wife or daughter rape by 4 arm robbers |
Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by Daeylar(f): 9:54am On Jan 20, 2019 |
Look at a question Ihedinobi3:Take a look at the question. Now Just look at the answer to the question. MuttleyLaff: My god People that answer straightforward direct questions like this are deadly 4 Likes 2 Shares |
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