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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 8:39am On Jan 20, 2019 |
sod09:He was the first to raise an alarm that Sarri has zero tactical knowledge. We were quick to insult him. I apologize for my role in that |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 9:04am On Jan 20, 2019 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1CQkoo4Sv0 Sooooo Arsenal gave Chelsea the D on and off the pitch? This life ehn. 9 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 9:12am On Jan 20, 2019 |
hoopLA:You are just too dumb to comprehend simple words. Did English FA gave Chelsea free 11 points or they earned it. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 9:51am On Jan 20, 2019 |
hensben:yes you earned it. You will soon lose all. Hahaha |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 10:03am On Jan 20, 2019 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pamcode(m): 10:04am On Jan 20, 2019 |
afrodoc2:See as troopz they blow like Whale in an ocean. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 10:11am On Jan 20, 2019 |
pamcode: They are "good" friends. Arsenal whoop Chelsea ass and no come reply their messages. E be like say Arsenal just use Chelsea do chop clean mouth. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 11:37am On Jan 20, 2019 |
homesteady: He is softer than Jorginho by far. He's lucky to be in a team like Barca and Spain, where his mates quickly give him options each time he receives passes. [img]https:///media/8-08-2016/S75k5u.gif[/img] 9 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TalabiAudu: 12:24pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
LoRdCaT: Lol. I was just kidding. Nothing serious. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Adiwana: 12:29pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
airmark: Oga,no dey try sound smart with all this gifs and actually watch some football match.Its just like showing gifs or videos of where Messi or Ronaldo missed seaters and say because they did on some occasions they are poor finishers.Absolutely ridiculous. No other CDM is good under pressure than Busquet.He hardly loses possession or composure even under intense pressing from opponents and that is his greatest strength as a player..Hes very good at intercepting and has vision unlike what is obtainable in Jorginho and You cant simply mark him out in games just as you can mark out Jorginho due to teams heavily rely on his transtional play rather than his ability to play some key passes which Jorginho cannot do.Note the difference. 19 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Adiwana: 12:33pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
Don't know how to quote Posts on other threads but this what I once said Sarri is a very predictable coach that the word Rotation is an alien language to him.Hes going to use the same starting line up and formation in his next match
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:40pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
Adiwana: This one na jjc. Let's assume i didn't watch Busquets that much. Read the opinions of Barca fans, who watched him more than i do and let me know if you have collected the amala stirrer from our own Dayo. 1 Like
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Smellymouth: 12:42pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
One shot fc.. 2 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Adiwana: 12:52pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
airmark: One persons opinion is now that of the whole fans?Have you ever watched Barca without Busquets??Barca can easily replace Messi than Busquets even though his more of a CM this days than a DM.And the guy was suggesting Vidal and Pogba to replace him.This goes to show you his ability to analyse football.How do you replace a DM with Box to Box midfielders?Simply laughable 9 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 1:15pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
Adiwana:How would you know if he can't be marked out when opponents have their hands full with Messi and other attackers? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 1:21pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
eph12:I just dey wait make the guy land. Why would you be manmarking Busquets when Messi would just dribble past the entire team? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Adiwana: 1:30pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
eph12: Because he has done it in Spain where there's no Messi and where there's no particular player to be stopped.Trying to mark him out in a game is utterly useless because he's not a player to build your team around.The teams rhythm and style of play will exist whether he's marked or not as he's not a priority player neither is he a player that scores goals or makes defence splitting passes.So coaches have no other option than to pay him no attention which then allows the team to channel their build up play through him.Thats why he was and still the heartbeat of both Barca and the Spanish team 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:31pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
Adiwana: Who will you easily replace Messi with? Keep deceiving yourself, if you think teams are afraid to go all out against Barca, because of one Busquets? Replacing Busquets with CM, is to show you how poor defensively Busquets is, such that a CM could do what he does and better. Busquets would be exposed when he has to fight more for the ball, rather than relax and do his 'receive and pass' thingy. Much of his energy (ofcourse low), will be burnt running, marking and battling for possession. He is buscuit for a reason. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 1:33pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
Messi no dey make defense splitting passes I thought i've seen it all |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:39pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
Adiwana: So you've agreed that teams haven't paid him attention, right? Why were you now arguing blindly? That's the reason why he should come to where they would pay him attention every week. When we started this season, teams didn't pay Jorginho attention, now all guns are pointed to his head by opponents. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Adiwana: 1:48pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
airmark: Barca win more of their games when Messi is injured than when hes around.The argument could be null though given the ratio of matches played with and without him but you can't overlook it.They've shown they can cope fine without him and this are facts.But Busquet??Barca can't play without Busquet.They struggle heavily without him and that is the more reason why the club has slowly integrated him from DM to CM over the years.Because the more he plays as anchor,the harder it is to find a replacement.So the only option is to play him as more of holding CM.But still at that you won't ever see Barca drop him or give him rest.Be it cup or league games. The False 9,Anchor role are if not the most difficult roles to play in football and that is why players that are good at this positions are once in a life time kind of players.Players like Messi,Makelele and Busquets are priceless to their clubs.Ask RM what happened when they sold Makelele.Any player with flare and vision can play as a Regista,playmaker,striker etc but it takes a special kind of player to play the above mentioned rolea 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 1:51pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
airmark: But this can be said for literally any footballer that is not Messi or Ronaldo. If any player is paid enough attention, in any league, their abilities to effect a game can well and truly be nullified. What exactly is the point of these arguments? 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Adiwana: 1:58pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
airmark: As I have already said,teams play can exist with or without Busquet.If the guy is in Chelsea with a good coach that will utilise him well,marking him means play will go through Kovacic and Kante.All he needs to do is play one or two passes or no passes at all.He can easily just shield the defense by just dropping deep and being an extra man thereby allowing Alonso more freedom to push up or drop in as an extra midfileder.This means is either the strikers mark him or an extra man from midfield will just like Ramsey did yesterday thereby leaving extra space in the midfield for players like Kovacic to expolit.The team will easily channel the ball from the defense through Kante who is more energetic.Imagine what will happen if Pep gets him.Man city struggle without Fernadinho who is not even technically gifted and is less football intelligent than busquet.What then will happen if he plays under Pep?? 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:01pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
nateevs: Some players no matter the pressure, they hardly lose possession, they don't need to look like Lukaku. Iniesta, Modric are my favourites in this aspect. Busquets' weaknesses won't make him survive in epl, just as we are seeing in Jorginho's case, Busquets' lack of physicality in his game and tracking back like a pregnant woman, will be exposed every week. We are talking about a dm coming to play in epl, not playing for barca in laliga. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:07pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
Adiwana: You are ridiculous, Barca have so much quality in attack to kill all the eibars in laliga. How many times did Barca win ucl without Messi playing from the knockout stages? How many classicos did you guys win without Messi? I wasn't talking about Busquets in laliga or barca, i'm talking about in epl, where Busquets would be chased up and down and where he also needs to do some chasing. Why do you think people are praising Fernandinho in Fraudiola's team? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Taguchi: 2:11pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
Unlimited22: bar Messi, Busquets is by far the most important Barca player. Barca midfield looses stability without Busquets and gets overun easily. coaches know this that is why Busquets is man marked in some of the matches. the guy is the most intelligent DM in football . there is a reason Busquets at 20 displaced both Mascherano and Yaya Toure players who are epl legends in their own right. Busquets has held his own against strong and aggressive teams both in Spain and across Europe but Chelsea fans think he is too weak for EPL. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Excallibur(m): 2:16pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
I Thought we bought mascherano , someone with spine and premier league experience to bench busquets and he was relegated to centre back 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:17pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
Adiwana: Didn't see the highlighted before mentioning Fernandinho's influence in Fraudiola's team. Now that you mentioned it, what do you think made Fernandinho important in that city team? Busquit in Chelsea, defending for Alonso? Say no more. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 2:26pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
Adiwana:Thanks for the clarification. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Adiwana: 2:30pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
airmark: Oga,I no understand your argument.How many matches has Barca played in the champions league with Messi injured.Barca were winning RM 3-0 at Santiago without Messi until he was brought in.Demolished them this season without him First using Busquet argument to try to substantiate the very fact that Jorginho has been poor is what I can't fathom. Jorginho is not even a good player and I have said it before.Coupled with the fact that he has a coach that has refused allow Kante cover his deficiencies And to make things worse off,the whole team is built around him.And I have already mentioned time and time again,unlike Jorginho,Busquet is not the type of player you build your team around so you can't just mark him out.No good epl coach will build his team around him simply because he doesn't have that ability.You don't build your team round a DM.I have not seen where a DM is being marked out by the opposition.Physicality is not his strong suite and that is where an energetic Box to box midfielder comes in to provide that extra shield 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Adiwana: 2:44pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
airmark: First,Fernandinho is just there.Nothing special about him.He is the Jorginho of Man City.He loses possession under intense pressing.Just get good midfielders that can keep the ball and press then you would see he's very useless.With good players that do their job in attack he's good.But go toe to toe with him in the midfield,he fumbles. He is important to Pep mainly because Man City doesn't have another DM.So it's only natural that for a coach like Pep that plays DM system,he will look important because of his role.Noting more,nothing less 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:51pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
Adiwana: This season only? Even they lost to farmers anyhow this season Adiwana: Just like Jorginho at Napoli, those are the deficiencies that Busquets needed no one to cover for him at Barca. He cant run, he cant defend, just receive and pass. Adiwana: In epl as a dm, you will be asked questions by opponents every week. You are on your own, Kante can't be doing your work for you. |
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