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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:21am On Jan 21, 2019
rvp2018:
Like his limited English vocabulary he also has limited arsenal of pictures some dating way back 10yrs ago that he keep re-posting. That has got to be tiring even for a typical TZ idiot.

Why did God decide to curse humanity with such type of major league idiots
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:23am On Jan 21, 2019
PROVERBZ:
they are Isis west Africa boko haram was crushed around 2016 they don't have so much power anymore

Isis west Africa that is bad this terrorist groups are becoming too many
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:24am On Jan 21, 2019
Jonraid:
https://af.reuters.com/article/investingNews/idAFKCN1PF0PM-OZABS?feedType=RSS&feedName=investingNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FAFRICAbusinessNews+%28News+%2F+AFRICA+%2F+Business+News%29&&rpc=401


Moses Kuria, a ruling party MP, said his amendment to banking laws would keep the cap at 4 points above the policy rate for “low-risk clients”, but introduce “a risk negotiation window” of up to 6 points for individuals and small and medium-size companies perceived as risky.

A good move?

Let us wait and hear what our banks will say
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by edon21: 11:37am On Jan 21, 2019
sufferNsmiling:


stage managed very soon your army will be using horses and donkeys

you are very funny
those are required for the type of terrains they fight in
meanwhile, the United States used such. did it make them use donkeys in the future?
try to use your brain sometimes
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PROVERBZ(m): 11:45am On Jan 21, 2019
tylann:

Are the dead ones book haram
Waooo, Nigerian Army shows Boko Haram that, they are still in charge. just watch and see https:///b1EbfFjjIl


recent video from the same baba iswaps claimed to have captured
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by abbeg(m): 11:45am On Jan 21, 2019
TayserMahri:


Just like UG and their chest-thumping airforce. Uganda actually has six Su-30s but still ranks lower than Kenya both militarily and in development. Whats up with the chest thumping and misplaced priorities? The only thing you do with the Su-30s is costly servicing and most of them will rot due to disservice. Unless you use them to attack Ghana or bomb your civilians grin flying them on a regular basis to keep them in shape is actually too expensive.

Its understandable for countries like India and Pakistan and China et al to have them but for you its completely unnecessary. Even SA doesnt operate Sukhois, tho admittedly they have AS-39C Gripens to match (most of which btw they have had to ground due to high maintenance costs arising from regular flights to keep them in shape). A Su-30 is a total overkill in any part of Africa and a waste of resources. Typical African wastefulness! Just look at the African countries using them, they are either in PTSD + recovering from conflict or are borderline dictatorships. They use them to strike fear among their own citizens. Your Su-30s will never see action. Purchase relevant hardware. The biggest threat for Nigeria right now and in the very long foreseeable future is internal NOT external. Your entire airforce is irrelevant grin



No doubt Su-30 is superior, big fan too but this is unnecessary for Nigeria with your poor maintenance culture. That one is destined to rot in Nigerian army bases.



One of these crashed in Nigeria just a few weeks ago in pursuit of bh. grin grin As I told you, Mi-35 is not meant for terrorists. Its niche is similar to Apache, i.e regional/geopolitical & conventional warfare. Ugandans also purchased Mi-24s (Mi-35 variants) ostensibly to make a geopolitical point (to us especially), then ironically 3 of them embarrassingly crashed in Kenya (all of them into Mt Kenya!!) killing scores of their soldiers. They accused us of using electromagnetic weapons grin

You need extensive experience to safely operate them even in peacetime. Expect regular embarrassments in future for employing wrong hardware on the right targets. Instead of a Mi-35 that costs upwards of $36 million (plus high maintenance and training of crew) and is not ideal for your most pressing needs (BH) just purchase 18 AH-6 Little Birds for $2 million each and you have the entire north BH territory adequately covered. A single Mi-35 crash like the one you had this year amounts to a loss of over $36M!! and its more likely than little bird due to its filling the wrong niche. Mi-variants are actually very vulnerable to crashes, we also had a Mi-171 crash in 2011. None of our little birds have crashed in Somalia or even in Kenya despite operating continuously in the theatre since 2011, and its very effective for special operations, attack, reconnaissance missions conducted at night, high speeds, low altitudes, and on short notice.
Influence is one of the reasons for owning lots of jets.Take USA for example.Do they need all those planes?But yet they make new ones each year.And bh has a lot of armoured vehicles which I'm not sure a little bird or gazelle can destroy.Hence the mi35.They even own tanks.
Nigeria uses Russian doctrine which requires a chopper to actively support troops during combat.They also need to be able to transport troops.That's why Russian choppers always have extra capacity for troops and/or ammo and fuel.They can even reload during missions!
Even their mi28 which is basically a Russian apache has this capability.
Americans on the other hand prefer having a chopper for every role i.e. apache combat,Chinook transport etc.That's not Nigeria's style.
And Americans used apache and even a10 thunderbolts against terrorists for their reasons.That's the same with Nigeria.
Even the cobras you want to buy were used in the jungles of Vietnam.So nothing's wrong with using hinds against bh.They are mostly for armoured columns.For foot soldiers we have our alpha jets.These planes are fond of decimating bh terrorists.Sometimes up to fifty to a single plane at one go.And Nigeria isn't Uganda that leaves planes to rot.That's one of our strengths.Take our f7s.They have probably never seen combat all their lives yet they are still functional or at least almost fly able.I doubt our Flankers will be any different.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by abbeg(m): 11:59am On Jan 21, 2019
kikuyu1:


I've been ignoring childish ululating but its too much! Nigga,do you know how much a fvkcing Flanker costs!? A Su 30 mk 3 costs 75 mn$ with a yearly flight cost of 8 mn$.
http://nationsdawnofanera.weebly.com/-fighter-aircraft.html
A squadron of 12 would cost a billion dollars,mofo! Yes,you could buy a few and park them like the UPDF who bought 7 in 2012-guess how many are still flying??
Those flankers are mostly for influence.Probably to make a statement to our west African and African neighbors.When the time comes for combat we will reinstate them if they are bad.And don't you think the Nigerian govt thought about it before buying them? You think they just sat up one day and brought out 1.2bn $ to buy planes? We aren't as poor as Kenya or Uganda.We have the money to buy,fly and maintain them.It's embarrassing for an African power like Nigeria to still dwell on third gen fighters like our f7s(which are still flying) so we are upgrading to fourth gen (flanker,jf17 later frogfoot).After all S.A. bought 3 next to useless gripen jets.So why don't you attack them?It's all about the influence.
I want to admire our future one more time
shocked shocked

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:08pm On Jan 21, 2019
tylann:

Let us wait and hear what our banks will say
What big deal the economy is growing, banks are innovating and growing.Imf took their cover & we didn't die.The pressure on interest rate cap should be kept a little longer so they can see innovate more.Gov is borrowing cheaply.All the digital creditors are filling the void for high interest lending.Kuria is just a hired gun by bankster and his motion won't see the light of day.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:11pm On Jan 21, 2019
abbeg:
Those flankers are mostly for influence.Probably to make a statement to our west African and African neighbors.When the time comes for combat we will reinstate them if they are bad.And don't you think the Nigerian govt thought about it before buying them? You think they just sat up one day and brought out 1.2bn $ to buy planes? We aren't as poor as Kenya or Uganda.We have the money to buy,fly and maintain them.It's embarrassing for an African power like Nigeria to still dwell on third gen fighters like our f7s(which are still flying) so we are upgrading to fourth gen (flanker,jf17 later frogfoot).After all S.A. bought 3 next to useless gripen jets.So why don't you attack them?It's all about the influence.
I want to admire our future one more time
shocked shocked
You cannot afford those with you budget.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by LangatKipro: 12:22pm On Jan 21, 2019
Another one coming in Nairobi
34 floors residential eight buildings in one
https://www.jamiiforums.com/threads/nairobi-the-city-in-the-sun.1260445/page-15#lg=attachment1001004&slide=0 [/img]

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by UyiIredia(m): 12:22pm On Jan 21, 2019
kikuyu1:


Another problem apart from lying and silliness is the Naij propensity to pose. Every idle semi literate with bundles,a borrowed laptop lying up in his mother's house is an economist/historian/military analyst.
Nigga ,no military mam in the world, even with the mere experience of a lifetime in the mess repair kit would EVER PLACE THE DRC ARMY AHEAD OF ANYONE.

The problem with many Nugerians is they think Africa revolves around them.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by UyiIredia(m): 12:23pm On Jan 21, 2019
rvp2018:
You cannot afford those with you budget.

They won't hear wisdom.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 12:26pm On Jan 21, 2019
I believe we had this argument here before? Well Wealth X just released it's 2018 Report

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by edon21: 12:35pm On Jan 21, 2019
UyiIredia:

They won't hear wisdom.

then go sort it out with global power if you think you have the impetus

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by UyiIredia(m): 12:39pm On Jan 21, 2019
rvp20183:
I generally looked at major assets - combat tanks and APC - for the army. The rest are details. Nigeria has twice kenya. You navy - is indeed more than Kenya - about 4 times big.

True. Excluding SA and Egypt plus any MENA country I'd say Nigeria has the strongest navy in SSA. Even then I'd say we are underperforming.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by UyiIredia(m): 12:43pm On Jan 21, 2019
edon21:



then go sort it out with global power if you think you have the impetus

Sort what out? What do you even mean? The issue here is how the NA overspends in luxuries it cannot maintain and lacks solid basics. It's so bad Nigerians are well aware troops fighting BH are short on weapons and food. And you still chest-beat.

Meanwhile, it was Kate last year the NA had the intelligence to initiate a cyber-command. 20 + years too late.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by UyiIredia(m): 12:48pm On Jan 21, 2019
rvp20183:
But it can't fight. They run and leave all those arsenals to Boko Haram. It more cowardly than Malian force - who also ran at the sight of Islamic fighters. Luckly for Mali - France always step in and send troops there.

I even read Buhari was considering hiring mercenaries from Russia and South Africa grin grin grin grin to fight Boko Haram. Your cowardly force this week ran again from Bega town together with 30,000 residences. You can bet they left tanks, APC and whole lot of equipments - and probably got into Okadas - and ran faster than the residence out of trouble.

Just type "Nigeria Army Cowardly" in google - and see what you get.

I told you I have heard first hand how most West Africa forces are cowardly. Nigeria suffers because the rest of Francophone West Africa relies on France to step in and you need to ask British to step in too. Ghana have American standing forces or something like that.That is smart of Ghanians..the Yankees can help defend them against Islamic fighters when they come.

Just don't waste more money buying more equipment for a cowardly and ineffective force. Sign a defence pact with Russia or Britain or UK.


It's not cowardice per se. Many of the troops aren't idiots. They see how disorganised things are at their barracks or camp and scamper away when they see a threat beyond them. And idiot Nigerians are still chest-beating here leaving the problem unsolved. It is so bad years back some soldiers mutinied against an officer who failed in his duty in keeping his men well armed. Probably chopping funds for himself like Dasuki did.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 12:54pm On Jan 21, 2019
UyiIredia:


Sort what out? What do you even mean? The issue here is how the NA overspends in luxuries it cannot maintain and lacks solid basics. It's so bad Nigerians are well aware troops fighting BH are short on weapons and food. And you still chest-beat.

Meanwhile, it was Kate last year the NA had the intelligence to initiate a cyber-command. 20 + years too late.
True. NA is my least favorite among the Armed Forces.

Cyber command is late, true but not on the continent, I think you can count how many African countries have a cyber command on both hands.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by UyiIredia(m): 12:57pm On Jan 21, 2019
tylann:
locally made or locally assembled

Locally assembled with some parts fabricated locally.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by UyiIredia(m): 1:00pm On Jan 21, 2019
rvp2018:
Try make a syringe first.Try make bullets even.You cannot manufacture a plane in the next 30 or 50yrs.

You are too kind. When better countries struggle at making planes na Naija. Next 2 centuries we cannot assemble helicopters talkless of build planes.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by UyiIredia(m): 1:07pm On Jan 21, 2019
abbeg:
You think it's every plant that's used to make toothpicks? And Nigerians have made these
helicopter
Armoured personnel carriers
Cars
Tractors
submersible helicopters
Domestic equipment like hangers and toothbrushes
Drugs
Infantry fighting vehicles
Unguided rockets
Surveillance drones
The list is getting long.I should stop grin

I know of cars, APC's, infantry vehivles, unguided rockets, hangars and toothbrushes. From where do you have helicopters, drones and tractors?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by abbeg(m): 1:14pm On Jan 21, 2019
rvp2018:
You cannot afford those with you budget.
We have already bought them and kept aside money for maintenance so what do you mean?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by edon21: 1:24pm On Jan 21, 2019
UyiIredia:


Sort what out? What do you even mean? The issue here is how the NA overspends in luxuries it cannot maintain and lacks solid basics. It's so bad Nigerians are well aware troops fighting BH are short on weapons and food. And you still chest-beat.

Meanwhile, it was Kate last year the NA had the intelligence to initiate a cyber-command. 20 + years too late.
but it still ranks 3rd or 4th in Africa
that is the point
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 1:25pm On Jan 21, 2019
UyiIredia:


Locally assembled with some parts fabricated locally.
Actually locally fabricated in collaboration with Dorman Long (a Nigerian company) The parts imported are engines, navigations e.t.c

A complete Nigerian design, not assembled at all.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by edon21: 1:26pm On Jan 21, 2019
UyiIredia:

Locally assembled with some parts fabricated locally.
my friend 95 percent is locally built

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by abbeg(m): 1:27pm On Jan 21, 2019
UyiIredia:


I know of cars, APC's, infantry vehivles, unguided rockets, hangars and toothbrushes. From where do you have helicopters, drones and tractors?
Below are some locally made Nigerian choppers.Two were made by individual civilians while the last two are for our army with the prototype and design shown. We also make patrol boats now. (nns andoni)

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 1:27pm On Jan 21, 2019
rvp2018:
Try make bullets even.

Where do you think we import our bullet from? Kenya?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:29pm On Jan 21, 2019
PROVERBZ:
what do you mean by retaliate I just showed you pictures of recovered weapons and neutralized terrorists
in the latest action on the war front

This is how most nigerians are. Also this is the behaviour of most nigerians

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 1:30pm On Jan 21, 2019
abbeg:
Below are some locally made Nigerian choppers.Two were made by individual civilians while the last two are for our army with the prototype and design shown.
Bro while I admire your enthusiasm for your country, Nigeria does not manufacture helicopters grin

Prototype yes but actual helis not yet.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by abbeg(m): 1:34pm On Jan 21, 2019
Ibrahimanis:

Bro while I admire your enthusiasm for your country, Nigeria does not manufacture helicopters grin

Prototype yes but actual helis not yet.
I know.That's why I specified they were prototypes before.Soon we'll manufacture them in numbers if all turns out well. smiley

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 1:36pm On Jan 21, 2019
Ibrahimanis:

Where do you think we import our bullet from? Kenya?
Kenyan Ordnance Factory
http://www.kofc.co.ke/products.htm

Nigerian DICON
https://dicon.gov.ng/#

Compare the sites, check out the products and tell me the differences grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:40pm On Jan 21, 2019
See video of nigerian soldiers fighting themselves for food and water


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f5aubn3j5Y&app=desktop

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