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Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by maasoap(m): 9:32am On Jan 22, 2019 |
BERNIMOORE: May be, you made sense to your co-wailers 1 Like |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by Joyrise: 9:45am On Jan 22, 2019 |
odiks: How will a corrupt individual frolicking with politicians be a CJN of a country like Nigeria where big bag takes all judgement just as Wike has been able to bribe Judges against APC in Rivers. |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by ladman(m): 9:45am On Jan 22, 2019 |
docadams: The way I see it is that the high court is a senior brother that cannot give orders to CCT, a junior brother, since both of them get their orders from the court of appeal. 1 Like |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by cktheluckyman: 9:50am On Jan 22, 2019 |
Joyrise: Pele bro Onnogen will be CJN for a long time. |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by GoldHorse(m): 10:03am On Jan 22, 2019 |
Didi2d: Abi o. If somebody, unfortunately, turned himself to a vigilante and start taking out all these corrupt people by himself like in those films people go come dey shout 1 Like |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by fabianjay101(m): 11:13am On Jan 22, 2019 |
bkool7:go amend the law naaa |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by Nobody: 12:02pm On Jan 22, 2019 |
PaChukwudi44: Then a bench warrant will be issued. |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by SaiAtikuTill203: 12:16pm On Jan 22, 2019 |
Politicians especially what we have today are all corrupt including President Buhari. (forget what they tell you or what they make you believe). There are no 'Angels' sent from heaven in politics. Therefore, between moving forward and no movement at all, we must decide what we want. Forget stealing, they are all rogues, APC & PDP. What would eventually bring about a refined government is the involvement of the citizens in the running of government and holding their administrators to account for their actions or inactions. Between Buhari and Atiku, the difference is clear and crystal. Atiku is our next president come hell or high waters...!!!! |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by Dootty(m): 2:49pm On Jan 22, 2019 |
Same high court stopped Gandollars from being investigated by the state house of assembly which is it's statutory function and up till now they never deemed it fit to appeal. Even Buhari felt relieved by the lacuna from his statement that the house of assembly and court have relieved him of the burden. No APC official or agent or supporter have ever spoken against the video or even chastised Gandollars despite the fact that the evidence of the video from last year till now. Fast forward, the CJN case and within 24 hours of allegation, he's arraigned. Never has the code of conduct treated any case with supersonic speed. Let me educate the uninformed on the procedure of the code of conduct. First, the code of conduct bureau receives a petition and gets approval from the superior officer in charge at the office to investigate the petition. The case is assigned to an investigator just like the IPO to investigate the crux of the petition. Subsequently, the matter is investigated and the suspect is interviewed for his response to the matter. If found wanting, the investigator submits his report to superior officer for approval to charge the case to the CCT. Once approval is given, the case is charged to the CCT with the defendant personally served. In the case of a personality like the CJN, the chairman of the CCB will definitely be aware before referal of the case to CCT. Let's be rational can all this process occur within 24 hours under normal Nigeria condition except their is a vested interest by the executive. The NJC exist to protect the judiciary from harassment from the executive and maintain the diginity of the Judiciary. Just like you have in the police , defence and other security forces who conduct orderly room trial and court martial for their personnel who commit criminal offences before handing them over for civil prosecution despite the fact that the offence was committed in service uniform, you will never see a serving personnel been prosecuted. The person will have undergone orderly room trial and if found guilty dismissed from service before arraignment in the court. So the judiciary is the third arm of government and just like Saraki who's the head of the second arm of government was prosecuted, he can't be forced to resign unless found guilty and even with that he has the right to appeal his case to the highest court. Let's don't go far, as student, if the police require your attention for any case, they write to the school authorities to seek your release to them, they can't barge into the school to arrest you how much more a whole CJN. The question now is has the executive fully declared their asset to extend of all their domiciliary acconts in dollars and pounds, can you mention any two ministers whose total amount in domiciliary acconts is known. Forget the president and VP half declaration. The only president to fully declare his assets in total of cash and properties is the late Musa Yardua. Now with regards to FOI, the CCB chairman cleared stated it in public that the consent of the public official must be obtained before the asset declaration can be made public when questioned on the access to assess declaration of the executive. So was the consent of the CJN sought before the information was released to an ally of the president. Did the CCB investigate to discover the difference. What simply happened was that the CJN did not fully declare the asset the last time and has fully declared it now so what's exactly is the crime there. Just like president declared that he has a land in port Harcourt but does not know the location or size. If by the President wins the forthcoming election and declares the location and size of the land, is that not going be false declaration having earlier declared that he does not know the size location. Can then he be arraigned before the CCT since as claimed by the prosecution that it is a public official misconduct and not subject to the jurisdiction of the NJC. The fallacy of the whole issue is the attempt to probe the salary account of the CJN from 2005 without probable cause or allegation all in a bid to indict him. For those not aware, apart from the salary of the judiciary, they are entitled to estacodes for conferences and vacation annually which they may choose not to exhaust all on spending and save the remaining. The estacode of the public officials per day range up to 1,000 dollars if ordinary local duty tour allowance is about 100 dollars based the previous exchange rate of 150 to dollar not this bastardised PMB induced rate of 360. I even know for a that the local government chairman's wife is entitled to half a million for monitoring the environmental sanitation every month. So you can imagine how much an appeallate judge can serve every year from 2005 to date if he's not living a flamboyant lifestyle and not a property monger. Let's just reason logically, has anyone accused the CJN of bribe or misconduct or has the allocation the judiciary been to have been misappropriated? The bad precedent been set is have a whole serving CJN to appear before a tribunal who is not up to a high court judge in hierarchy. It's like a repeat of CGS Lt General Diya appearing before Late Abacha CSO Major Mustapha over the phantom coup plot allegation. The timing of the allegations close to election coupled with the refusal to confirm the CJN timely has shown the bias of the executive in this case. Now looking at the position of the law, once the public official has admitted his mistake, he's too be issued a new form to update his assets declaration. The CCB is not to recommend to the CCT for prosecution once the official has admitted his error. It is only when he denies and contest the allegations that he can be prosecuted by the CCT just like Saraki who contested the allegations. If the CCB suspect corruption then they should invite the ICPC or EFCC not the CCT to prosecute. The executive has short themselves in the foot by requesting for the removal of the CJN from NJC which their ultimate goal to appoint another CJN of northern extraction who will do their bidding for the election tribunals. We need to protect the judiciary from the executive onslaught as the judiciary is the last hope of the common man. The executive tried with the national assembly and the same judiciary came to it's rescue. So everyone should join hands to fight this onslaught on the judiciary because if this onslaught on the CJN is sustained then this spell the death of our democracy. 2 Likes |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by baralatie(m): 2:53pm On Jan 22, 2019 |
BERNIMOORE:ok |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by Dootty(m): 3:02pm On Jan 22, 2019 |
baralatie: High court has no power to stop the CCT since they are both courts of coordinate jurisdiction that's why the CCT sat today. The matter before the CCT is whether the court has the jurisdiction to hear the case and it must be first heard before the arraignment of the CJN. That's the position of the law. |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by baralatie(m): 3:06pm On Jan 22, 2019 |
Dootty:na lie o! jurisdiction to hear the case is different from hearing the case! once it hears the case you can not challenge it jurisdiction no longer and the action of the cct will be defeated .no try that lie tactics o |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by pryme(m): 3:08pm On Jan 22, 2019 |
PaChukwudi44: In other words Judges now enjoy immunity just like the President and Governors |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by pryme(m): 3:19pm On Jan 22, 2019 |
xjiggy: All the so called "Learned" people are trying to say is that the Judge is technically immune to prosecution as long as the matter has not been brought to the NJC (regardless of the offense), these same learned people will tell you in schools that it's only the President, Vp, Governors and Deputy Governors that have immunity. This is how our elites are shielded by the same law that will sentence a man for stealing N5000 to death. |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by PaChukwudi44(m): 3:25pm On Jan 22, 2019 |
pryme: The law is the law.No sentiments 1 Like |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by PaChukwudi44(m): 3:26pm On Jan 22, 2019 |
pryme: it never said immunity.It said they cannot be prosecuted without recourse to the NJC. |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by pryme(m): 3:43pm On Jan 22, 2019 |
PaChukwudi44: Doesn't matter, it's still immunity from prosecution even if it's a criminal case. What this means is if a sitting judge kills someone he will be allowed to walk away until the NJC says he could be investigated and prosecuted. So is this the law you want us to observe? |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by baralatie(m): 4:10pm On Jan 22, 2019 |
pryme:the constitution says if the president and vice president steal billion in bribes and kill some one they have immunity. is it not the law that we use? 1 Like |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by Dootty(m): 4:16pm On Jan 22, 2019 |
baralatie: Seems you are not familiar with the administration of Justice Act. Once there is a challenge on the jurisdiction, the case cannot be held until the CCT rules on the jurisdiction and I'm which the defendant can appeal and until there's a ruling on the jurisdiction, the main case cannot be held. Seems like u have forgotten that the same process played out in Saraki's case. Let wait and see what happens at the next hearing. |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by pryme(m): 8:04pm On Jan 22, 2019 |
baralatie: Yes, but the law we use don't give immunity no one else outside the President, Vp, Governors and Deputy Governors. A sitting Judge does not enjoy immunity like those mentioned above. 1 Like |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by PaChukwudi44(m): 8:10pm On Jan 22, 2019 |
pryme:The same constitution says judges can't be tried without recourse to the NJC.What is your problem with that? 1 Like |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by CofOLandOfPeace(m): 8:23pm On Jan 22, 2019 |
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Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by pryme(m): 8:26pm On Jan 22, 2019 |
PaChukwudi44: And what does the constitution say about erring public servants that are found to have committed fraud, you don't take this NJC as an excuse, if a sitting Judge commits a crime outside the scope of him/her performing their duties, such judge will be arrested and prosecuted, because the same constitution empowers the law enforcement agencies to do that to anyone, and I mean anyone and that includes your precious judges. Don't try to play smart all in the name of constitution. It's people like you that will aid an arm robber to take their victims to court and win because of the so called technicalities in law. I pray you don't have something that is rightfully yours taken from you by a corrupt judge in broad DAYLIGHT with the way you are interpreting the CFRN. |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by PaChukwudi44(m): 9:14pm On Jan 22, 2019 |
pryme:Bros the law says a serving judicial officer cannot be prosecuted for any offence including murder without recourse to the NJC.That is the position of the law. 1 Like |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by PaChukwudi44(m): 9:16pm On Jan 22, 2019 |
pryme:Bros the law says a serving judicial officer cannot be prosecuted for any offence including murder without recourse to the NJC.That is the position of the law. If a judge is corrupt and you have your facts report him to the NJC.Why is that so difficult for you to understand. 1 Like |
Re: Court Of Appeal Declines Onnoghen’s Request To Stop CCT Trial by pryme(m): 11:34pm On Jan 22, 2019 |
PaChukwudi44: Tell this to the fishes. And I thought I was arguing with someone that has a clue. 2 Likes |
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