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Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by Binikingdowm: 7:34pm On Jan 25, 2019
martowskin1:


No mind the guy, him wan form father of democracy, na Nigeria be this, no body care, them no go remember u, even abiola them forget the guy..

Na him laziness 9 make the governors no dey loyal na, all of them just dey do as them like, just watch the way buhari GI treat okorocha after election for him f.up
we just dey pray make Atiku fit win.


If he ehter ehn, no other party will rule this country again apart from PDP.

Jonathan Bleep up big time
Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by Iceness: 7:34pm On Jan 25, 2019
Actually he does not have d power to do so as he didn't appoint d CJN he entered d post as next in rank to d ex CJN
Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by Ozkar: 7:36pm On Jan 25, 2019
4dor:


I never said he was, I gave an instance about the Sanusi suspension because the President at the time didn't have the power to remove him. Please read section 11 of the Interpretation Act.
and it wasn't the president who suspended him.

Also it makes no sense to argue the illegality of suspending the head of the judiciary (CJN) without majority legislative backing, by citing the example of a former President of the Court of appeal.
Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by Jonadull: 7:36pm On Jan 25, 2019
Binikingdowm:
we just dey pray make Atiku fit win.


If he ehter ehn, no other party will rule this country again apart from PDP.

Jonathan Bleep up big time
Atiku will win only in your house

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Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by Elliot2(m): 7:37pm On Jan 25, 2019
wellmax:
3021399430
please go and read Section 11 of the Interpretation Act, Cap 123, Vol. 8, LFN, 2004, you will see the answer to your question. The president can suspend the CJN indefinitely. What happened when Jonathan suspended Justice Ayo Salami then?
Jonathan only acted on the recommendations of the NJC.

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Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by slimghost(m): 7:39pm On Jan 25, 2019
AllenSpencer:



Why are you shooting yourself in the leg. If it's not provisioned, then Buhari's move is valid.

You are dumber than i thought. Let me break it down for you airhead. There is no constitutional backing to SUSPEND a CJ. You can only remove him and you need 2/3 concurrence of the Senate. Is it clear now?

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Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by discusant: 7:40pm On Jan 25, 2019
ChimaAgbalajob:
It is now very clear that Buhari had no intentions whatsoever to conduct a free and fair elections, nor respect the wishes of Nigerians expressed through the ballot box. Times of fearful trepidation has returned to Nigeria. The worst fears of Nigerians have been confirmed to indeed be true.

With the current circle of illegality and desperation by the Executive arm of government to rig the 2019 elections and manipulate the Judiciary, it has become urgent to save lives and postpone the election to avoid the impending violence.

Going by the current play book which has already been test run in the Ekiti and Osun elections, the results of the Presidential elections has already been written by Buhari and will be handed to INEC to announce on February 17th.


The consequence of such rape of democracy and the current lack of confidence in the Judiciary will result in massive protests and loss of lives as the security forces will be deployed to kill innocent citizens protesting the rape of democracy.

In the light of these, all well meaning Nigerians, leaders of religious organizations and other leaders of thought must now work for the postponement of the elections to save lives and indeed save Nigerian democracy. Nigeria has indeed been ushered into another dark era of sham elections by undemocratic forces determined to remain in power despite the will of Nigerians.


"Security forces to be deployed to kill innocent Nigerians protesting the rape of democracy."


But ask: are the security officers not humans who are also seeing the evils going on in this govt?

What type of military indoctrination can make a soldier defend evil fashioned by this Buhari cabal against Nigeria?
Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by 4dor: 7:41pm On Jan 25, 2019
Ozkar:
and it wasn't the president who suspended him.

Also it makes no sense to argue the illegality of suspending the head of the judiciary (CJN) without majority legislative backing, by citing the example of a former President of the Court of appeal.

For the umpteenth time at no point did I use Salami as a yardstick. I'm also telling you once again to read section 11 of the Interpretation Act.


http://www.nigeria-law.org/Interpretation%20Act.htm

We can all argue from today till tomorrow it won't change what this law says.
Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by 4dor: 7:43pm On Jan 25, 2019
Elliot2:
Jonathan only acted on the recommendations of the NJC.

Read what he told you to read before arguing with him.

http://www.nigeria-law.org/Interpretation%20Act.htm
Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by Mujtahida: 7:46pm On Jan 25, 2019
Wantedmiller:



case settled
Not settled. An order touching on the res obtained exparte without putting the other side on notice?
Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by Ozkar: 7:50pm On Jan 25, 2019
4dor:


For the umpteenth time at no point did I use Salami as a yardstick. I'm also telling you once again to read section 11 of the Interpretation Act.


http://www.nigeria-law.org/Interpretation%20Act.htm

We can all argue from today till tomorrow it won't change what this law says.
the law you posted a link to says if you have the power to appoint, you have the power to remove or suspend.

Does the president have the power to appoint the CJN on his own? No. The NJC recommends the next CJN, and then the president approves and seeks confirmation from the legislative majority before the appointment becomes official.

So why did he suspend him without recommendation from NJC and confirmation by the legislative?
Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by Nobody: 7:51pm On Jan 25, 2019
MT:
Yes he does. The president can SUSPEND but he cannot REMOVE. A case of Jonathan "suspending" the then CBN governor , Lamido Sanusi readily comes to mind. Also, Jonathan "suspending" Ayo Salami.

You history rewriters. Jonathan didn't suspend Ayo Salami. he approved the suspension given by the njc.

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Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by shadeyinka(m): 7:51pm On Jan 25, 2019
AllenSpencer:



The topic is far more matured than you. Keep shut if you can't table points constructively.


You laying points out like Ede Polytechnic student.
I wonder when personal opinions of another become a means of displaying ones ignorance and foolishness!

As you are on the inside you have spoken!

Psycho-fans shouting "Sai Baba" with no single intellectual or logical independence!

Good night
Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by GIFTD: 7:58pm On Jan 25, 2019
Capensis:
The old man has perfected his rigging machinery. You all can vote whoever you want, but he is not ready to stand up. He has the military, police, INEC, APC and even Fulani herdsmen leadership from his tribe and family to be in charge of every organ of governance.

Nigerians are waiting for foreigners to start the revolution for them....poor things.
Or rather the cabals using the old fool to rule this country.
Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by 4dor: 8:05pm On Jan 25, 2019
Ozkar:
the law you posted a link to says if you have the power to appoint, you have the power to remove or suspend.

Does the president have the power to appoint the CJN on his own? No. The NJC recommends the next CJN, and then the president approves and seeks confirmation from the legislative majority before the appointment becomes official.

So why did he suspend him without recommendation from NJC and confirmation by the legislative?


Good question! You know who has the power to answer this? A competent court of law not you or me. Hopefully someone will wake up and do the right thing.
Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by banquetking: 8:10pm On Jan 25, 2019
Yes you are correct about the position of precedents and their use by the honourable courts of law.

However, before a precedent can be considered it must first be on all fours with the matter, it is sought to be applied to which in this case doesn't apply, the reason being as follows.

Retd. Hon. Justice Ayo Salami was first and foremost suspended by the NJC the body whose decision was then acknowledged by then president Goodluck Ebele Jonathan based on their recommendation as at that time.

This has not been followed in this case as President Muhammadu Buhari has acted unilaterally without resort to the NJC nor the senate majority and as such he has acted contrary to constitutional powers and made a clear abuse of the principle of separation of powers.

This is not a matter or religious or ethnic sentiment, it is an issue that bothers on whether the law was followed intoto in arriving at a concise decision.


Tetehjewels:


Let me school you a bit.

In law there are legal precedence to much of what the judiciary accepts ad legal positions on issues or arguments.

Goodluck Ebele Jonathan gave a legal precedence when he suspended Justice Salami and was backed by the AGF and this was recognized and nobody grumbled even in the slightest.

This same precedence has been borrowed by Buhari in a case involving the CJN who by the honorable profession should have stepped aside pending the outcome of his CCT case but he rather chose the path of Judicial rascality by suspending the meeting of the NJC till further notice and then wanting to go ahead and swear in the electoral tribunal members.

That is Judicial rascality in all ramification and since the law is silent about the suspension of the CJN, the executive reserves the right to suspend him by law via an executive order which is what buhari has done.

Let that sink in
Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by Just2endowed2(m): 8:11pm On Jan 25, 2019
Tetehjewels:


He suspended him and did not remove him

Suspension and removal are almost same. Can the president now use the same meaning you are thinking to use to suspend the senate president? Can he dare it?
Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by ollah2: 8:13pm On Jan 25, 2019
4dor:


Point of correction he wasn't sacked. His suspension was later lifted but GEJ disregarded the NJC.

https://www.abusidiqu.com/jonathan-has-no-power-to-stop-salamis-reinstatement-njc-says-recall-needs-no-presidential-approval/

https://www.legit.ng/47633.html



Nigerians are full of hatred, hypocrisy and sentiments. Buhari is a tyrant and he is practising an autocratic government blah blah.

OBJ and GEJ did exactly what he did but none of these guys ever called them names.

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Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by obailala(m): 8:15pm On Jan 25, 2019
This exact same scenario played out when GEJ sacked suspended the governor of the CBN for daring not to be on his side. I hear somwthing similar also happened to a judge named Salami; he was suspended until he attained retirement. The fact is that the president of Nigeria holds too much powers.

Meanwhile most of the folks shouting 'tyrant' here today called it a 'masterstroke' when a similar situation played out 5 years ago.

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Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by Just2endowed2(m): 8:16pm On Jan 25, 2019
wellmax:
3021399430
please go and read Section 11 of the Interpretation Act, Cap 123, Vol. 8, LFN, 2004, you will see the answer to your question. The president can suspend the CJN indefinitely. What happened when Jonathan suspended Justice Ayo Salami then?

You are just too dumb and ignorant with the truth. Jonathan suspend him base on the recommendation the njc. Now go back to that case and apologise for your ignoramus thinking

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Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by Ozkar: 8:16pm On Jan 25, 2019
4dor:



Good question! You know who has the power to answer this? A competent court of law not you or me. Hopefully someone will wake up and do the right thing.
dude, the Nigerian Court of Appeal ordered the CCT to suspend the trial, but they disregarded that injunction by A COMPETENT COURT OF LAW. Also Buhari disregarded the legislative like the tyrant that he is and went on to oil his rigging machinery.

Where does the CCT have the jurisdiction to order suspension of the CJN, or appointment of another?

This is blatant rape of the constitution and a coup on the judiciary. Shame on all those supporting this.
Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by rhektor(m): 8:17pm On Jan 25, 2019
NaijaMutant:



Your argument is baseless and legally illogical undecided
Present your own point and save your face
Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by AyoolaIgwe(m): 8:17pm On Jan 25, 2019
borntoexcel2000:
Lawyers oya come in

Someone said, "Suspension" and "Removal" are two different things...

The learned, am waiting

Modified:

Someone said, A suspension is not a removal. Under law those are two different things.

He is still the CJN but on suspension. While an Interim CJN would take his place pending the outcome of his case at CCT.

Case closed. Let me take a bow
1. A subsisting FHC order had restrained the CCT from sitting on the matter.
2. A legal axiom states that, "the express mention of one is to the exclusion of all others." The CJN can't be suspended na. The constitution recognizes an outright removal to the exclusion of a suspension.
Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by Nobody: 8:20pm On Jan 25, 2019
Just2endowed2:


Suspension and removal are almost same. Can the president now use the same meaning you are thinking to use to suspend the senate president? Can he dare it?

There is nothing like almost same in law.

Suspension is different from removal
Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by UyiIredia(m): 8:21pm On Jan 25, 2019
helinues:
Yes he does. If you can appoint , you can fire


Though not supporting this wuru wuru

Read well it is ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE NJC Buhari can remove a Chief Justice not by Himself through some bloody Code of Conduct Tribunal.
Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by Jaideyone(m): 8:22pm On Jan 25, 2019
Willie2015:


This is the best card to play.....
Bomb all the pipelines with caveat that PMB must reinstate the suspended CJN...
No oil production .....PMB brain go reset .....
what happened when you clowns were busy bombing in 2015/2016? cheesy na you go still suffer
Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by cyprex: 8:23pm On Jan 25, 2019
Binikingdowm:
No

I hope groundnut pyramid can feed the north because their terrorist leader is trying to provoke their source of living.

The better south ain't taking this rubbish.

Why not face the issue at hand?
Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by Nobody: 8:24pm On Jan 25, 2019
AyoolaIgwe:

1. A subsisting FHC order had restrained the CCT from sitting on the matter.
2. A legal axiom states that, "the express mention of one is to the exclusion of all others." The CJN can't be suspended na. The constitution recognizes an outright removal to the exclusion of a suspension.

The constitution does not place any limitation on the President when it comes to a suspension but only in the case of a removal.

The constitution is an authority in that regard and not when it comes to a suspension. Besides when such silence in terms of suspension is observed, the constitution also recognized this and said REMOVAL OR SUSPENSION. This can be found in the interpretation of the laws and acts of Nigeria 1990
Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by Just2endowed2(m): 8:25pm On Jan 25, 2019
Tetehjewels:


The constitution only gave provision for REMOVAL AND NOT SUSPENSION.

The executive is the highest arm of government and the executive can formulate laws via executive orders without the input of the Judiciary or legislature.

The President has the right to suspend. Besides a precedence has already been set in this regard by Jonathan under PDP when he suspended Justice Salami. Based on this, the law balances itself out

Chai? And I am nigerian with this people. Piss. Go and read that your Jonathan case against the president of the appeal court. Do you think it was the FG That removed him? You are just too backwards. It was the NJC. spit.,
Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by Francisayo(m): 8:32pm On Jan 25, 2019
Most comments here shows you guys are really reaching cis of your emotions...
As a learned fellow I will educate you
There is no place in d constitution that is against d president suspending the CJN....what is in d constitution is the protocols to follow to remove the CJN and I'm sure you know both are different terms in Law....... So constitutionally Buhari has not done any thing contrary to the constitution.... Any question?

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Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by chinedumoooo: 8:32pm On Jan 25, 2019
[quote author=nelxxy post=75107372] and who told you that buhari appointed cjn and also has the Right to sack or fire[/quote
President Muhammadu buhari ordered vice president osinbajo to appoint the cjn.vp osinbajo can not appoint cjn without consulting the president despite being in acting capacity.
Re: Does The President Have The Constitutional Power To Suspend The Chief Justice? by Just2endowed2(m): 8:33pm On Jan 25, 2019
Tetehjewels:


There is nothing like almost same in law.

Suspension is different from removal

Dude, if you think the president can use the term suspension which you blindly think it's different things base on where you understand the law,then that means he can wake up one day and suspend anything blocking his way. I know you don't understand but just sit down and use a bit of your brain and tell me if this is not tyranny? .

My brother, I am not surprised that you won't condemn him but even in past leaders like Hitler that ran tyranny throughout their country, they still have diehard followers that were completely blind with ethnicity, emotions and the truth like you. Continue and it's even baseless arguing with you . May God save the open minded ones.

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