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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by elengine: 10:46am On Jan 25, 2019
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mountmoriah(m): 1:44pm On Jan 25, 2019
Destiny27:
Hello house, greetings to everyone.

I am planning to do both internal and external plastering of a 4-bedroom bungalow. The building has a sitting room with dinning, Masters bedroom with toilet/bathroom, 3 other bedrooms, kitchen, 2 toilets and one bathroom, a sit-out.

I want to have an idea of the financial implication.

Is there a way costing is done when it comes to plastering?

I would appreciate responses from the experts.


This are the criteria that determine the cost of plastering.

One, the location of the building (for instant if the building is located in ogun state and the masons are also base in ogun state then it will be easy for then to come to the site with less transportation cost but if you want then to come to Benin or Ondo to plaster then since you are not giving them transportation fees and is not one or two person that is coming to site to work, we need to calculate the cost of transport to and fro and add it to the initial cost of the work.

Two, Extorting, There are some sites that omo onile after they had finished collecting whatever title they want to collect from house owner, they will then bounce on the workers extorting money from then, they will insist the workers will give then certain amount of money to start the plastering, Ajah area are the worse of it, sometime plasterers or contractor we need to know the area where the work will done and add the omo onile money the initial plastering cost, plastering in an estate is more fair comparing to outside an estate.

Three Block works that are not plumb or are usually not done to perfection especially when the bricklayers are not very good, often time, they don't use plumb, the blocks will not stand perfectly vertical, therefore some areas will require more mortar filling to others to compensate for the bad areas, so gauging plastering is what you do to achieve a perfect plain. In doing this some areas will require more mortars than the others, So masons/plasterers will need to use a thin material especially wood with rope to mark out how the plastering will spread round the surface of wall of the building to achieve perfectly vertical walls which is called gauge plastering, so gauging is what you do to achieve a perfect plain. Plastering is usually applied between 15mm to 25mm, but some areas may require more mortar, in such cases, apply cement and sand, leave to dry till the next day before you apply the finished coating of final coating for a smooth surface . I prefer a mixture ratio of 1:5-1:6 for cement, plaster sand mix for this kind of bad block works, and you can see that all of this is going to result in more work for masons/plasters

For this particular 4 bedroom bungalow plastering work.

Plastering will cost you N240, 000 either Lagos or Ogun State inside an estate or outside an estate.

3 Trucks of 20 tons Plaster sand

105 bags of cements

Water

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mountmoriah(m): 2:02pm On Jan 25, 2019
Takoro13:
Good day brothers and sisters, what could be the reason for the error in hand mould block. I was there with them and the produced 25-30 blks per cement for 9". On getting there today I discovered some are very strong and some can't be held from either sides.

I am weak and tired.

Please help.


If not for the fact that I want strong blocks to avoid crack and others I would have go for buying.

I want to know the reason for this problem
they need to mix the sand and the cement very well next time sir, and always try to get good sand for then, sharp sand is better not dagolu, if you can get stone dust, very good for block making

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mountmoriah(m): 2:08pm On Jan 25, 2019
durojim007:
Hello house,

I need help with quotations for attachments. You can send them to durojim@gmail.com.

Please let me know how much it will cost. The windows should have burglary and net.

Location is lagos.
Casement windows, projected or sliding windows sir, nigalex, ebm, tower or imported materials you needed sir?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BumperNO: 4:20pm On Jan 25, 2019
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 4:31pm On Jan 25, 2019
mountmoriah:
they need to mix the sand and the cement very well next time sir, and always try to get good sand for then, sharp sand is better not dagolu, if you can get stone dust, very good for block making
this is sand error, sir
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Destiny27(m): 5:52pm On Jan 25, 2019
GoodFaith:

I just gave you the basic info
do u want to contract it out
Bricklayer charge about 3500/400k daily
service 2000/3000 daily
please check the above prices in your location
so if I was a contractor and tell you to pay 14,000 for one room
now you can look at the total numbers of room you have a add it up
if two bricklayers is about 7/8k and services 2/3k
You are looking at about 9/11k
I will tell the contractor i will pay 10k for a room
Thank you sir
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Destiny27(m): 5:54pm On Jan 25, 2019
Obafisenco:

it depend on how u want it, u can either award it out as a contract wish they might charge around 150k -200k
or u hire 2 bricklayer and 1 labour which a bricklayer will plaster 2side (wall) in a room, so the two of them will plaster one room In a day. and bricklayer will take 3500-4000 while labour will take 2000.
so depending on your choice.
but I will advice u to award it out as a contract
Thanks sir
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Destiny27(m): 5:57pm On Jan 25, 2019
mountmoriah:



This are the criteria that determine the cost of plastering.

One, the location of the building (for instant if the building is located in ogun state and the masons are also base in ogun state then it will be easy for then to come to the site with less transportation cost but if you want then to come to Benin or Ondo to plaster then since you are not giving them transportation fees and is not one or two person that is coming to site to work, we need to calculate the cost of transport to and fro and add it to the initial cost of the work.

One, Extorting, There are some sites that omo onile after they had finished collecting whatever title they want to collect from house owner, they will then bounce on the workers extorting money from then, they will insist the workers will give then certain amount of money to start the plastering, Ajah area are the worse of it, sometime plasterers or contractor we need to know the area where the work will done and add the omo onile money the initial plastering cost, plastering in an estate is more fair comparing to outside an estate.

Three Block works that are not plumb or are usually not done to perfection especially when the bricklayers are not very good, often time, they don't use plumb, the blocks will not stand perfectly vertical, therefore some areas will require more mortar filling to others to compensate for the bad areas, so gauging plastering is what you do to achieve a perfect plain. In doing this some areas will require more mortars than the others, So masons/plasterers will need to use a thin material especially wood with rope to mark out how the plastering will spread round the surface of wall of the building to achieve perfectly vertical walls which is called gauge plastering, so gauging is what you do to achieve a perfect plain. Plastering is usually applied between 15mm to 25mm, but some areas may require more mortar, in such cases, apply cement and sand, leave to dry till the next day before you apply the finished coating of final coating for a smooth surface . I prefer a mixture ratio of 1:5-1:6 for cement, plaster sand mix for this kind of bad block works, and you can see that all of this is going to result in more work for masons/plasters

For this particular 4 bedroom bungalow plastering work.

Plastering will cost you N240, 000 either Lagos or Ogun State inside an estate or outside an estate.

3 Trucks of 20 tons Plaster sand

105 bags of cements

Water






Thanks sir. I appreciate.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 7:28pm On Jan 25, 2019
Its painful we have lot of bricklayers on the forum claiming to be an Engineer, please be careful who handle your job or project. Judas in our midst ooo. Your hard earning is important.

My advice engage a trusted Engineer or Consult one, it will help you someday. I am a building materials marchant, i am not an Engineer but employed & also consult engineers they are very important to your project.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mountmoriah(m): 7:52pm On Jan 25, 2019
Destiny27:

Thanks sir. I appreciate.
you are most welcome sir
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Takoro13(m): 8:43pm On Jan 25, 2019
mountmoriah:
they need to mix the sand and the cement very well next time sir, and always try to get good sand for then, sharp sand is better not dagolu, if you can get stone dust, very good for block making
The project is in ILESA, osun state. I don't think we have dagolu here?
Am taking another moulder there tomorrow for trier. Will let him produce one bag under same supervision like the formal therefore if the blocks yield same that mean the sand is bad but I want to suggest the aggregates were not mixed well and I was like teaching them their work. One of them was my labourer when I was in practice before he became bricklayer hence I trust his comments.
God appreciate you sr. I think no one will see to my case.
Thanks.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Takoro13(m): 8:46pm On Jan 25, 2019
Adedward:
this is sand error, sir
You mean it.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mountmoriah(m): 8:50pm On Jan 25, 2019
Takoro13:

The project is in ILESA, osun state. I don't think we have dagolu here?
Am taking another moulder there tomorrow for trier. Will let him produce one bag under same supervision like the formal therefore if the blocks yield same that mean the sand is bad but I want to suggest the aggregates were not mixed well and I was like teaching them their work. One of them was my labourer when I was in practice before he became bricklayer hence I trust his comments.
God appreciate you sr. I think no one will see to my case.
Thanks.
you are welcome sir.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 10:51pm On Jan 25, 2019
Engineers, Builders, Tile marketers and construction Enthusiasts could we discuss this issue of "To Tile versus "To Paint" external walls of a house from a cost perspective.

I know some will say external wall tiling is old school. Though I see some very good looking houses carrying very well arranges wall tiles design.

So my question is this;

Is it cheaper (maybe by sqm pricing) to tile external walls than either plaster-painting or plaster-screed-paint?

You could use various brands of tiles and paints to make your analysis but preferably affordable mid priced materials will better so that everyone can be carried along.

Cc: Hajji

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kayusely70(m): 1:13am On Jan 26, 2019
mountmoriah:
you are most welcome sir
I'm sorry to bother you again, grateful if you can explain to me the difference between casement and projected window, thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mountmoriah(m): 1:50am On Jan 26, 2019
kayusely70:
I'm sorry to bother you again, grateful if you can explain to me the difference between casement and projected window, thanks

Thanks once again sir for the chance to help out here, i so much fond of helping out when necessary and when i'm available, i derive joy doing so sir.

I will like you to understand a point here as a professional that casement and projected or awning windows are almost the same thing, the only different there is just that most projected or awning windows opened outward while most casement windows opened sideways

But most fabricators don't even understand this or they understand but try to look other way for a beneficial reason to them.

Awning or projected windows are created or fabricated with hinged on top and open outward, enabling ventilation without letting in rain or falling leaves inside the building. Screens are on the inside of the window, where they're more protected from the elements. Awning or projected windows are often used for basements, or main building because they can be placed high on the wall and easily operate with a turn of the handle.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 1:54am On Jan 26, 2019
ceelog:
Engineers, Builders, Tile marketers and construction Enthusiasts could we discuss this issue of "To Tile versus "To Paint" external walls of a house from a cost perspective.

I know some will say external wall tiling is old school. Though I see some very good looking houses carrying very well arranges wall tiles design.

So my question is this;

Is it cheaper (maybe by sqm pricing) to tile external walls than either plaster-painting or plaster-screed-paint?

You could use various brands of tiles and paints to make your analysis but preferably affordable mid priced materials will better so that everyone can be carried along.

Cc: Hajji

Oga mi. Personally, I will only tile the bottom portion of the house, the others will be plastered and painted, because your house need to breath air. Tiling all the wall will block air intake or outtake.. I will leave other advantages and dis-advantages to the Engineers.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mountmoriah(m): 1:56am On Jan 26, 2019
kayusely70:
I'm sorry to bother you again, grateful if you can explain to me the difference between casement and projected window, thanks

Thanks once again sir for the chance to help out here, i so much fond of helping out when necessary and when i'm available, i derive joy doing so sir.
Casement windows are also called projected windows or sash windows – incorporate ‘leaves’ or ‘sashes’ that swing out from the window’s outer frame.

1. Casement windows can take one of two forms: top-hung or side-hung. The sashes of top hung windows are attached to the top of the outer frame with movable friction stays, thus allowing the bottom to swing out. Whereas with side-hung windows the sash is attached either on the left or right, allowing the opposite side to swing out.

2. Control wind, rain or ventilation to the exact degree that you like. Top-hung casement windows are probably which also called projected windows are the best solution for the weather-facing side of any building, as you can have them open without admitting any rain or severe winds. No other window can be opened as far, which can be an important advantage when you depend on cross ventilation to cool your home.


3. Casement window unit usually has a combination of fixed panes as well as opening sashes, but can also be custom-designed.

Features and Benefits of casement windows

• Excellent weather sealing, with double draft seals.
• Available in anodized or powder-coated aluminum.
• Available in a wide range of powder-coated colors.
• Available in standard 5mm glass, toughened glass or laminated safety glass.
• Glass can be tinted reflective in a range of colours.
• Sizes up to 2.4m in width, and up to 1.8m in height.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mountmoriah(m): 1:57am On Jan 26, 2019
mufutau55:


Oga mi. Personally, I will only tile the bottom portion of the house, the others will be plastered and painted, because your house need to breath air. Tiling all the wall will block air intake or outtake.. I will leave other advantages and dis-advantages to the Engineers.

Hajji M.
you actually nail it sir
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 2:01am On Jan 26, 2019
mufutau55:


Oga mi. Personally, I will only tile the bottom portion of the house, the others will be plastered and painted, because your house need to breath air. Tiling all the wall will block air intake or outtake.. I will leave other advantages and dis-advantages to the Engineers.

Hajji M.
boss, gud morning
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mountmoriah(m): 2:04am On Jan 26, 2019
kayusely70:
I'm sorry to bother you again, grateful if you can explain to me the difference between casement and projected window, thanks
so the difference simple explanation is one swing outward which is projected and one swing sideways which is casement. Let me know if this help sir.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 2:05am On Jan 26, 2019
Adedward:
boss, gud morning
gud morning house happy wonderful weekend,
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mountmoriah(m): 2:28am On Jan 26, 2019
Chekitaut:
Its painful we have lot of bricklayers on the forum claiming to be an Engineer, please be careful who handle your job or project. Judas in our midst ooo. Your hard earning is important.

My advice engage a trusted Engineer or Consult one, it will help you someday. I am a building materials marchant, i am not an Engineer but employed & also consult engineers they are very important to your project.
that is very true @chekitaut, i will need plaster sand for a plastering project at ajah, 20 tons, white plaster sand, how much is 20 tons, and note sir, i will confirm if it's full or not before offloading, if it's not full, i wont pay, it will be return, but if it's full you are the one that will supply me all the plaster sand i will need to complete the project, and note the owner of the project is a nairalander and also a contributor to this thread, so i want the best for her, thank u sir
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ArcFresky(m): 7:33am On Jan 26, 2019
Takoro13:

The project is in ILESA, osun state. I don't think we have dagolu here?
Am taking another moulder there tomorrow for trier. Will let him produce one bag under same supervision like the formal therefore if the blocks yield same that mean the sand is bad but I want to suggest the aggregates were not mixed well and I was like teaching them their work. One of them was my labourer when I was in practice before he became bricklayer hence I trust his comments.
God appreciate you sr. I think no one will see to my case.
Thanks.


Hi, I am currently constructing a Mansionette at Imo, in Ilesha.
I also moulded blocks onsite 30blocks/bag.
The issue I noticed about ilesha is the sand.

There is no good sand in Ilesha, it was frustrating. Untill I met a supplier, but the issue is, they are very Dubious people and you need to watch them everytime.


Also the moulded blocks need to be beaten by rain then Dried for 3 sunny days. If its too sunny, wet it thrice daily.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Takoro13(m): 8:50am On Jan 26, 2019
ArcFresky:



Hi, I am currently constructing a Mansionette at Imo, in Ilesha.
I also moulded blocks onsite 30blocks/bag.
The issue I noticed about ilesha is the sand.

There is no good sand in Ilesha, it was frustrating. Untill I met a supplier, but the issue is, they are very Dubious people and you need to watch them everytime.


Also the moulded blocks need to be beaten by rain then Dried for 3 sunny days. If its too sunny, wet it thrice daily.


Your number sr. I will like to take you there and see the sand am talking about.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 5:06pm On Jan 26, 2019
mountmoriah:
that is very true @chekitaut, i will need plaster sand for a plastering project at ajah, 20 tons, white plaster sand, how much is 20 tons, and note sir, i will confirm if it's full or not before offloading, if it's not full, i wont pay, it will be return, but if it's full you are the one that will supply me all the plaster sand i will need to complete the project, and note the owner of the project is a nairalander and also a contributor to this thread, so i want the best for her, thank u sir
Where in Ajah?

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