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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 9:09am On Jan 26, 2019
simonjassy:

5th or 7th season nobody cares,remember salah was also in the epl as well warming chelsea's bench because of his inability to break into the first team.as of 2010,drogba was 31 how many top strikers still delivered many goals after clocking 30?.how do you explain that salah had 3 goals more than drogba despite playing at least 4 games more than him.
see, when you talk about the number of goals they scored, you are actually helping raumdeuter to shift the goal post.


now, let me state the issue again. raumdeuter has a criteria/standard for rating players, which is;
1) performance in big matches (most important)
2) trophies to accompany the big game performance (equally as important as the first)
3) stats - goals and assists for attackers (least important)



now, using the above standard above our 'high IQ man' has rated some players as follows;

Iniesta >>> Lampard
klose >>> Zlatan

I even believe using the same standard he will say
shurlle >> Hazard.
okay
now, raumdeuter has claimed to be consistent with the use of his standard in rating players. therefore, he has told us that salah is the greatest African to play in England.


I hope the above have been understood very well.

now the question is, raumdeuter, using your own criteria/standard which is listed above, how were you able to come to the conclusion that salah is greater than, Drogba, Yaya toure, Mikel OBI, KANU NWANKWO etc?


I believe, as the owner of the criteria/standard you are in the best position to interpret the criteria.




PLS my ogas come and help me tell raumdeuter to ask this one question. I know that he is an IFE graduate as claimed by him, so the question shouldn't take him more a minute to answer while showing his IQ level in his answer.

ibime, nateevs, nihilistjnr, unlimited22, afrodoc2, skimpled, griffon, all and sundry


the aparisports staff, come and see if you can get your CEO/chief editor to answer the simple question.
eruditor, coutinho14, a40,

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NinjaMetahuman: 9:19am On Jan 26, 2019
Greatihex:
must you guys always lick raumdeuter's ass without checking if it has shit on it?
those are raumdeuter's herds
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by macjireh: 9:19am On Jan 26, 2019
where is DAT mancity fan.....neyma1405 or whatever he calls himself... its been long he commented here
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Coutinho14: 9:22am On Jan 26, 2019
Greatihex:
see, when you talk about the number of goals they scored, you are actually helping raumdeuter to shift the goal post.


now, let me state the issue again. raumdeuter has a criteria/standard for rating players, which is;
1) performance in big matches (most important)
2) trophies to accompany the big game performance (equally as important as the first)
3) stats - goals and assists for attackers (least important)



now, using the above standard above our 'high IQ man' has rated some players as follows;

Iniesta >>> Lampard
klose >>> Zlatan

I even believe using the same standard he will say
shurlle >> Hazard.
okay
now, raumdeuter has claimed to be consistent with the use of his standard in rating players. therefore, he has told us that salah is the greatest African to play in England.


I hope the above have been understood very well.

now the question is, raumdeuter, using your own criteria/standard which is listed above, how were you able to come to the conclusion that salah is greater than, Drogba, Yaya toure, Mikel OBI, KANU NWANKWO etc?


I believe, as the owner of the criteria/standard you are in the best position to interpret the criteria.




PLS my ogas come and help me tell raumdeuter to ask this one question. I know that he is an IFE graduate as claimed by him, so the question shouldn't take him more a minute to answer while showing his IQ level in his answer.

ibime, nateevs, nihilistjnr, unlimited22, afrodoc2, skimpled, griffon, all and sundry


the aparisports staff, come and see if you can get your CEO/chief editor to answer the simple question.
eruditor, coutinho14, a40,
so is Iniesta not >>>>> Lampard undecided
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 9:26am On Jan 26, 2019
macjireh:
where is DAT mancity fan.....neyma1405 or whatever he calls himself... its been long he commented here
Twitter banned him for copyright infringement

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MercylessMercy: 9:40am On Jan 26, 2019
Coutinho14:
so is Iniesta not >>>>> Lampard undecided

The fact is raumdeuter abadoning his judgement process and marking scheme for rating his players.

Performance at his biggest stage is what He has used to shove Boateng down our throat on this thread. Now Drogba can show him his UCL trophy won at Bayern's backyard. Scoring the equaliser and the winning penalty. Salah is still searching for his.

But now suddenly his marking scheme doesn't matter for now and suspended. Those logic of his are now revised and a new edition is out. Performance at biggest stage never mattered again. Digging out comment about Boateng performance by goal.com writers and co in world cup final is now obsolete. It is now suddenly number of goals scoredby Salah that trumps Drogba.


LOL

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by macjireh: 9:45am On Jan 26, 2019
eph12:
Twitter banned him for copyright infringement
LOL . Twitter too bans...LMAO
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by macjireh: 9:53am On Jan 26, 2019
hope we get D's lineup against Sheffield tomaro...let's test run d new system

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:50am On Jan 26, 2019
MercylessMercy:


The fact is raumdeuter abadoning his judgement process and marking scheme for rating his players.

Performance at his biggest stage is what He has used to shove Boateng down our throat on this thread. Now Drogba can show him his UCL trophy won at Bayern's backyard. Scoring the equaliser and the winning penalty. Salah is still searching for his.

But now suddenly his marking scheme doesn't matter for now and suspended. Those logic of his are now revised and a new edition is out. Performance at biggest stage never mattered again. Digging out comment about Boateng performance by goal.com writers and co in world cup final is now obsolete. It is now suddenly number of goals scoredby Salah that trumps Drogba.


LOL

How is Drogba performance in the CL relevant in the EPL
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:53am On Jan 26, 2019
Greatihex:
see, when you talk about the number of goals they scored, you are actually helping raumdeuter to shift the goal post.


now, let me state the issue again. raumdeuter has a criteria/standard for rating players, which is;
1) performance in big matches (most important)
2) trophies to accompany the big game performance (equally as important as the first)
3) stats - goals and assists for attackers (least important)



now, using the above standard above our 'high IQ man' has rated some players as follows;

Iniesta >>> Lampard
klose >>> Zlatan

I even believe using the same standard he will say
shurlle >> Hazard.
okay
now, raumdeuter has claimed to be consistent with the use of his standard in rating players. therefore, he has told us that salah is the greatest African to play in England.


I hope the above have been understood very well.

now the question is, raumdeuter, using your own criteria/standard which is listed above, how were you able to come to the conclusion that salah is greater than, Drogba, Yaya toure, Mikel OBI, KANU NWANKWO etc?


I believe, as the owner of the criteria/standard you are in the best position to interpret the criteria.




PLS my ogas come and help me tell raumdeuter to ask this one question. I know that he is an IFE graduate as claimed by him, so the question shouldn't take him more a minute to answer while showing his IQ level in his answer.

ibime, nateevs, nihilistjnr, unlimited22, afrodoc2, skimpled, griffon, all and sundry


the aparisports staff, come and see if you can get your CEO/chief editor to answer the simple question.
eruditor, coutinho14, a40,

Big games in the league
Salah scored 7 goals vs the 5 top teams last season, drogba was barely scoring 8 league goals a season so how will he score vs top sides

Trophies
Most of The epl titles won by drogba, he was carried along or how else can you expect a striker dropping 8 goals to contribute effectively to the title.

Goals
It took Drogba 9 seasons to come up with 104 league goals
Salah is almost halfway there in 1.5 seasons

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:57am On Jan 26, 2019
popizaino:


You see why you are irredeemable and why no one should take you serious when you begin your incoherent criticism on hazard?so because you wanted to defend salah you suddenly remembered he was a winger who should not be having the same goal as a striker,so what happened to the usual “attacker” you use to qualify hazard? Why not forget the winger thing and call salah an attacker?This is the same you that will expect hazard to be doing the work of a striker and even expected him to feel drogba’s boot .
Mennn I weak for your matter

Salah is a winger/attacker and delivering many goals and assists

Salah is an attacker, drogba is a striker

Which other attacker like hazard drops 4 cl goals in 5 seasons
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 11:00am On Jan 26, 2019
raumdeuter:


Trophies
Most of The epl titles won by drogba, he was carried along or how else can you expect a striker dropping 8 goals to contribute effectively to the title.


What about the CL he won? Yu know, the one wey e destroy Bayern Munchkins for final in Germany? Did they carry him along there too? Abi UCL is no longer recognized by your propaganda TV station?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:00am On Jan 26, 2019
simonjassy:

salah was a lwf,i.e winger cum striker,but the bottom line here is salah played way more epl matches last season than drogba did in 09/10.
how many goals did firmino,the liverpool striker score last season?

Salah played as a wing forward same role as hazard yet he managed to outscore drogba a top striker.

You can argue Drogba is better than firmino and you'll have a point.

If Salah from the wings is outscoring a top striker then too bad
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:06am On Jan 26, 2019
simonjassy:

5th or 7th season nobody cares,remember salah was also in the epl as well warming chelsea's bench because of his inability to break into the first team.as of 2010,drogba was 31 how many top strikers still delivered many goals after clocking 30?.how do you explain that salah had 3 goals more than drogba despite playing at least 4 games more than him.

Salah was playing as a wing forward drogba as a striker

Salah as a wing forward was scoring every 91 mins last season
In Drogba best season 2010 he was scoring every 95mins
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:09am On Jan 26, 2019
Leyqute:


What about the CL he won? Yu know, the one wey e destroy Bayern Munchkins for final in Germany? Did they carry him along there too? Abi UCL is no longer recognized by your propaganda TV station?

So when we are looking for the best african performance in the EPL, we have to go dig the CL performance

So if you're looking for the best south American in Copa America you will say messi because of his CL or world cup goals

Stay focused. The question is best African performer in the EPL strictly

If the question was best african in CL that will be an easy answer. Etoo
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by macjireh: 11:22am On Jan 26, 2019
raumdeuter:


So when we are looking for the best african performance in the EPL, we have to go dig the CL performance

So if you're looking for the best south American in Copa America you will say messi because of his CL or world cup goals

Stay focused. The question is best African performer in the EPL strictly

If the question was best african in CL that will be an easy answer. Etoo
.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 11:36am On Jan 26, 2019
macjireh:

LOL
.
Twitter too bans...LMAO
I shock too grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 11:39am On Jan 26, 2019
raumdeuter:


Big games in the league
Salah scored 7 goals vs the 5 top teams last season, drogba was barely scoring 8 league goals a season so how will he score vs top sides

Trophies
Most of The epl titles won by drogba, he was carried along or how else can you expect a striker dropping 8 goals to contribute effectively to the title.

Goals
It took Drogba 9 seasons to come up with 104 league goals
Salah is almost halfway there in 1.5 seasons

I'm not trying to jump into this argument but the fact is that Salah's best season does not match up to Drogba best. I think Salah has only scored against Arsenal among the top 6 clubs this season and those two were penalty.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Olalekank(m): 11:40am On Jan 26, 2019
raumdeuter:


Salah played as a wing forward same role as hazard yet he managed to outscore drogba a top striker.

You can argue Drogba is better than firmino and you'll have a point.

If Salah from the wings is outscoring a top striker then too bad
Invariably, Salah is better than any attacker that have ever played in Bayern Munchen.... Based on your metric

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 11:53am On Jan 26, 2019
Olalekank:

Invariably, Salah is better than any attacker that have ever played in Bayern Munchen.... Based on your metric
have you heard of gerd muller AKA der bomber.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 12:07pm On Jan 26, 2019
raumdeuter:


Big games in the league
Salah scored 7 goals vs the 5 top teams last season, drogba was barely scoring 8 league goals a season so how will he score vs top sides
I can see how you are trying to shift the goalpost and remove the UCL and especially the domestic cups. no problem, I will allow you.

Trophies
Most of The epl titles won by drogba, he was carried along or how else can you expect a striker dropping 8 goals to contribute effectively to the title.
if you can show us salah's trophy the way I will show you Drogba's own in 2009/2010, you have answered the question. in 2009/2010 Drogba's ticked all the boxes for you (using your standard). with that single season, following your standard, Drogba should be greater than salah, but why are you telling us the opposite?

Goals
It took Drogba 9 seasons to come up with 104 league goals
Salah is almost halfway there in 1.5 seasons

i can see that you are trying to shift the goal post here too by bring in this season which had not even started before you made the bogus claim. no problem, I will allow you again.
when you told us that klose is greater than Zlatan, you never put into consideration the stat to game ratio as long as you believed klose fulfilled your two most important criteria, the third one didn't matter again. same for Iniesta and Lampard.

now, why are you not doing the same in the case of Drogba and salah?








after dealing with the Drogba own, you can also try explaining to us how
salah > Yaya toure (using your criteria)

I don't know why you don't want to touch that angle.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 12:07pm On Jan 26, 2019
raumdeuter:


Salah played as a wing forward same role as hazard yet he managed to outscore drogba a top striker.

You can argue Drogba is better than firmino and you'll have a point.

If Salah from the wings is outscoring a top striker then too bad
he outscored drogba after playing at least 4 more matches than him.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 12:18pm On Jan 26, 2019
at this point in time i have decided to watch my hands of raumdeuter's case.Sometimes it useless arguing with him cox he will drag you down to his level of ridiculousness and beat you with his experience at amala turning.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 12:20pm On Jan 26, 2019
raumdeuter:


Do you have any season Drogba scored 10 CL goals,
and broke the EPL goals record in his first full season, second season Salah is already topping the scorers chart

Tell me what Drogba did individually in the EPL that surpassed Salah who played as a winger until recently

Salah is currently on 16 goals in January. That is more than every Drogba EPL season bar 2
leyqute, nihilistjnr. come and see this AMALA turner.
this is one of his responses earlier in the convo.

EM DON see say this one go hard am to defend na why EM shift the post go somewhere else.
but alias, that side no go still help am. no road for that side.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 12:21pm On Jan 26, 2019
raumdeuter:


1. Salah has scored 10 goals in the CL. 4 in quarters and semi finals injured in final

2. Salah has not won the CL or world cup but he took his unfancied team to a CL final

3. Stats highest goal scorer and record scorer in EPL history. This season he is topping the goal table
raumdueter the AMALA turner.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 12:23pm On Jan 26, 2019
simonjassy:
at this point in time i have decided to watch my hands of raumdeuter's case.Sometimes it useless arguing with him cox he will drag you down to his level of ridiculousness and beat you with his experience at amala turning.

Bros I copy you. Raum just loves argument for the sake of it.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 1:04pm On Jan 26, 2019
Leyqute:


Bros I copy you. Raum just loves argument for the sake of it.

it is not only about the argument. in this case, he is trying to protect the false image he has created where his students are.
he has told them that he is 'Mr always right' and that whatever he says is the gospel of truth.

but now, the gospel of truth is being put to test by a 'Chelsea fan' and the gospel is proving to be false and have refused to stand the test of time.

it is because the intelligent Chelsea fans have tested the raumdeuter gospel and found out that it is false, that has made him not to leave our thread, instead he has remained here to learn the true gospel that we preach.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 1:08pm On Jan 26, 2019
Raumdateur since u said drogba was a carry along in the seasons he won the league, how about Yaya you're, was he also a carry along?

Salah is exceptional but naming him the greatest african to have played in the premier league is totally wrong.

The worst part is u discarded ur criteria of trophies won and ur now going with goals scored in the league and how Salah broke the premier league goals record...
Going by this ur new logic, am I wrong if I say GONZALO HIGUAIN is the greatest south American to have played in the Seria A ?

NOTE - HIGUAIN broke the Seria A goals record in 2015/2016 like Salah did last season (trophies are no longer important, they both ended up trophyless)

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 1:23pm On Jan 26, 2019
raumdeuter:


Salah is a winger/attacker and delivering many goals and assists

Salah is an attacker, drogba is a striker

Which other attacker like hazard drops 4 cl goals in 5 seasons


Last kick of a dieing horse grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by DExponential(m): 1:26pm On Jan 26, 2019
thorrvik55:
Raumdateur since u said drogba was a carry along in the seasons he won the league, how about Yaya you're, was he also a carry along?

Salah is exceptional but naming him the greatest african to have played in the premier league is totally wrong.

The worst part is u discarded ur criteria of trophies won and ur now going with goals scored in the league and how Salah broke the premier league goals record...
Going by this ur new logic, am I wrong if I say GONZALO HIGUAIN is the greatest south American to have played in the Seria A ?

NOTE - HIGUAIN broke the Seria A goals record in 2015/2016 like Salah did last season (trophies are no longer important, they both ended up trophyless)
Gbam!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:28pm On Jan 26, 2019
Elnino4ladies:
Emenalo sacked LMFAO

He thought that was Chelsea where he can use politics to cover his incompetence.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 1:29pm On Jan 26, 2019
Ibime:


He thought that was Chelsea where he can use politics to cover his incompetence.
grin


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