Maybe the spirit of Pan Africanism has hit our leaders,they needed to attend the function that many state leaders snubbed When SADC was bussy calling for a vote recount, Nairobi was lowkey pushing for the status quo and that was having Felix being the president as was earlier announced!

Interesting, Farmanjo is dear to Kenya even though some Somali MPs have shown displeasure with us ever since they knew that we were behind project Jubaland.Kenya and Raila enjoys relevancy from both Machar (South Sudan )and Somaliland (a semi-autonomous region in Somalia. We've housed harsh government critics of both Uganda and Tanzania in Bobby Wine and Tundu Lissu.To be respected as a country,you must have some powers to play with your regional or even global geopolitics! It may be that I'm wrong too!

mtisTheQubit:

wasnt following much on the congo stuff till i saw uhuru,raila,Ruto even kalonzo prepare for inauguration..i was whats the dang is ths..he just an opposition dude who just won election in a rich country duuh someone talked about Kenya being the link for minerials from congo heading to china..guess its happening..i might be also wrong you know

rvp2018:
Why not 0-1M. Why 20-50M max. You see if you went to school and have something btw your ears you won't throw figures carelessly. I have a reason why I think Nigeria population is 150m. I also have a reason why I think it's economy is 200B tops.

Very true,cos there is a Nigerian community everywhere and in most nation,you can't tell me Nigerian population is 50m

CIA - the best they can do is project Nigeria official figures - so let's not sweat it. I don't know what evidence you need is something self-evident. Nigeria population figures have been manipulated since 1960s!

vaxx:
The list i gave you wasn't dead. you may need to go revisit it again.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/print_ni.html


you haven't gave a valid reasons as tonwhy the number is fake, you just just compose a statement and hold it as true. if you have gotten the fact that is opposite of that figure, present it here , and lets examine it.

Jonraid:
Maybe the spirit of Pan Africanism has hit our leaders,they needed to attend the function that many state leaders snubbed When SADC was bussy calling for a vote recount, Nairobi was lowkey pushing for the status quo and that was having Felix being the president as was earlier announced!

Interesting, Farmanjo is dear to Kenya even though some Somali MPs have shown displeasure with us ever since they knew that we were behind project Jubaland.Kenya and Raila enjoys relevancy from both Machar (South Sudan )and Somaliland (a semi-autonomous region in Somalia. We've housed harsh government critics of both Uganda and Tanzania in Bobby Wine and Tundu Lissu.To be respected as a country,you must have some powers to play with your regional or even global geopolitics! It may be that I'm wrong too!

True we are almost in every country in east Africa thus why i dont blame Magufuli being afraid of us in a way..

rvp2018:
Why not 0-1M. Why 20-50M max. You see if you went to school and have something btw your ears you won't throw figures carelessly. I have a reason why I think Nigeria population is 150m. I also have a reason why I think it's economy is 200B tops.

OK Nigeria's population is 0-1m.

Yeah you have your reasons and I don't believe them. In fact even if it's KNBS, I wouldn't believe coz Nigeria's statistical capacity is higher than Kenya's. Meaning statistics from Nigeria is more accurate and reliable than that of Kenya, according to world bank. Waiting for you to tell me how this one is "cooked" by world bank.

why we want to argue about Nigeria rigged population figures confounds me.
https://qz.com/africa/1221472/the-story-of-how-nigerias-census-figures-became-weaponized/

The only credible census was the one Brits conducted.

Nigeria's South and North have been competing on who can inflate the figures.

The story of Nigeria’s 1962 census never gets old. Southern politicians seeking to end the north’s dominance of Nigerian politics decided that the only way to do it was through the census. Population figures at the time determined not only parliamentary representation but also revenue allocation and employee distribution in the civil service. In May 1962, the first census under an independent Nigerian government began. There had been a frenzy of mobilization by politicians in the south of the country using pamphlets, radio, schools, churches and mosques.

Although the final results were not made public, the preliminary results were quite clear as to what had happened: the north’s population had gone up from 16.5 million in the last census in 1952 to 22.5 million, an increase of 30%. But in some parts of the east, the population had increased by up to 200% and more than 70% in general. The west also reported an increase of 70%. What the preliminary results showed was that the north had lost its majority share of the country’s population.

Jonraid:
Where will the money come from? One of your officials posed when he saw the ridiculous budget proposals by the states. The fed is already stretched. With all those years practising federalism,you should have by now cracked how the states will no longer be relying on the fed government.

When we said that our counties receive allocations from the central government,you couldn't fathom how that could even be possible. You went on saying how your states budgets are independent from the fed government one! Little did we know that your states look up at the fed govt for additional funding!

Not most states in Nigeria is financially independent,some states are trying to improve their revenues,most especially the northern states are very dependent, you think it is so easy to make revenue from the desert

rvp2018:
CIA - the best they can do is project Nigeria official figures - so let's not sweat it. I don't know what evidence you need is something self-evident. Nigeria population figures have been manipulated since 1960s!

Nothing is self evident here, if you can't provide a reliable figure that state otherwise. you don't make argument on a personal statement. that is consider a child joke. work with proven statistics and lets examine such evidence.

CIA can only forcast figure based on the available evidence. if the current populations figure is wrong ttben their projection will be wrong too.

They discuss Kenya alot here. They were discussing about Nairobi in Nairaland ten, eleven, twelve years ago

Kur17:

This didn't get well with Nigerians yesterday

https://www.nairaland.com/4985740/former-kenyan-prime-minister-odinga

kennnnnyyyyaaaaaa....!!

how una dey....?....kiiiki....

What CAPACITY when you haven't held census in nearly 15yrs. You failed to hold census in 2016. You held census that have been so controversial they are laughable.

Maybe someone at WB was smoking illegal stuff if he thinks Nigeria NBS has better capacity than KBS.

Ibrahimanis:

OK Nigeria's population is 0-1m.

Yeah you have your reasons and I don't believe them. In fact even if it's KNBS, I wouldn't believe coz Nigeria's statistical capacity is higher than Kenya's. Meaning statistics from Nigeria is more accurate and reliable than that of Kenya, according to world bank. Waiting for you to tell me how this one is "cooked" by world bank.

rvp2018:
why we want to argue about Nigeria rigged population figures confounds me.
https://qz.com/africa/1221472/the-story-of-how-nigerias-census-figures-became-weaponized/

The only credible census was the one Brits conducted.

Nigeria's South and North have been competing on who can inflate the figures.

look at the percentage growth..no change..its like Nieria population is artifitially control..

You sound more obtuse than the usual Nigerians we deal with here. I will the last person to accept Nigeria crap statistics.

Read that article for some context. The only credible census in Nigeria was one conducted by Brits. We can use that project. The CIA obviously knows that.
https://qz.com/africa/1221472/the-story-of-how-nigerias-census-figures-became-weaponized/

vaxx:
Nothing is self evident here, if you can't provide a reliable figure that state otherwise. you don't make argument on a personal statement. that is consider a child joke. work with proven statistics and lets examine such evidence.

CIA can only forcast figure based on the available evidence. if the current populations figure is wrong ttben their projection will be wrong too.

rvp2018:
What CAPACITY when you haven't held census in nearly 15yrs. You failed to hold census in 2016. You held census that have been so controversial they are laughable.

Maybe someone at WB was smoking illegal stuff if he thinks Nigeria NBS has better capacity than KBS.

Yeah sure someone was smoking illegal stuff in WB. Typical, when something doesn't go your way ridicule it.

Of course they are. In 1962 - the South inflated their population by 200% compared to Brits Census!. The Northern gov cancelled and held another one in 1963. The Northern then similarly inflated their by same %. The story has remain the same...the percentages don't change..both regional and state wise.

In 2006 - they attempted to count - and ended with 200M - the whole exercise is so corrupted we don't need to argue about it.

The states and gov generally try to cull the figures to retain the 1963 %.

mtisTheQubit:



look at the percentage growth..no change..its like Nieria population is artifitially control..

If you had capacity - you would be holding census regularly - credible census. you won't be quoting indeximulli when the min of agriculture is asked for figures. It a ridicolous joke. I think WB need to revist that - if indeed that was true. Maybe they are using Nigeria new data against Kenya old data.

Ibrahimanis:

Yeah sure someone was smoking illegal stuff in WB. Typical, when something doesn't go your way ridicule it.

rvp2018:
Of course they are. In 1962 - the South inflated their population by 200%!. The Northern gov cancelled and held another one in 1963. The Northern then similarly inflated their by same %. The story has remain the same...the percentages don't change..both regional and state wise.

In 2006 - they attempted to count - and ended with 200M - the whole exercise is so corrupted we don't need to argue about it.

so ts how Nigeria smart pants play with data..it means the their GDP is cooked also ..i got post ths photo again..

Ibrahimanis:

OK Nigeria's population is 0-1m.

Yeah you have your reasons and I don't believe them. In fact even if it's KNBS, I wouldn't believe coz Nigeria's statistical capacity is higher than Kenya's. Meaning statistics from Nigeria is more accurate and reliable than that of Kenya, according to world bank. Waiting for you to tell me how this one is "cooked" by world bank.

You are right. Even the world bank takes Nigeria's statistics more seriously than Kenya's. Kenya's economy is seriously cooked. Their GDP jumped from $60bn to $100bn in the space of 3 years or thereabout just selling coffee and flowers and borrowing up to their eyeballs from China.

Kur17:

This didn't get well with Nigerians yesterday

https://www.nairaland.com/4985740/former-kenyan-prime-minister-odinga

That's deep coming from him. Considering Kenya is where this bridge was built for 15m (pic1) and this governor's chair was bought for 2.7m (pic2)

Computer generated. Even our figure of 46-50m is computer generated based on just an estimate. When we are done with our census this year,we will know the facts. I don't really believe that we add a million people each year ! We were 38 m during the last census.A simple addition of one million each of the past years will give us 48 m tops!

mtisTheQubit:



look at the percentage growth..no change..its like Nieria population is artifitially control..

Jonraid:
They discuss Kenya alot here. They were discussing about Nairobi in Nairaland ten, eleven, twelve years ago

How did you get to hear about nairaland?

Ibrahimanis:

That's deep coming from him. Considering Kenya is where this bridge was built for 15m (pic1) and this governor's chair was bought for 2.7m (pic2)

Ibrah my guy explain to be ths.in slow motion please if possible..what th dang is ths

You overcooked GDP dropped from nearly 600B to 350B recently. That should worry you more. You real economy is 200B. Kenya will be there in around 7-8yrs. By 2030 kenya economy will be the size of Egypt or South Africa. Nobody can question the credibility of RSA or Egypt figures. But yours definitely are laughable and the average Nigerian knows that.

obaaderemi:
You are right. Even the world bank takes Nigeria's statistics more seriously than Kenya's. Kenya's economy is seriously cooked. Their GDP jumped from $60bn to $100bn in the space of 3 years or thereabout just selling coffee and flowers and borrowing up to their eyeballs from China.

rvp2018:
You sound more obtuse than the usual Nigerians we deal with here. I will the last person to accept Nigeria crap statistics.

Read that article for some context. The only credible census in Nigeria was one conducted by Brits. We can use that project. The CIA obviously knows that.
https://qz.com/africa/1221472/the-story-of-how-nigerias-census-figures-became-weaponized/

You in particular have been pulling a lot of crap and bullshit from your anus and calling it a valid point. i am here to correct that hogwash of yours, your silly attempts to rubbed Nigeria in the mud by telling the Nigerian statistical data is unreliable is unfashionable. because we aren't delluded to be brainwashed.


you went in there , insert your hands into your anus and brought out a links without examine it what other credible evidence available. just because the Articule state what pleases your preconsive ignorance. the only reliable data on Nigeria population is Nigeria bureau of statistics. and anything contrary to that is a statement of ignorance. even if at all, there is a margin of error for political benefit, it should be within the minimum acceptance because of economical implication.

Ibrahimanis:

That's deep coming from him. Considering Kenya is where this bridge was built for 15m (pic1) and this governor's chair was bought for 2.7m (pic2)

Allah! This little Indians are the world's greatest hypocrites.

Read there damn fool. Let argue about other stuff - not the OBVIOUSLY MANIPULATED NIGERIA STATS.

In 2013, the former chairman of the NPC, Festus Odimegwu, managed to talk himself out of a job with a series of controversial comments. 24 out of the NPC’s 35 commissioners asked the president to fire him from his job as they had lost all confidence in him. Before then he had been queried by the presidency for giving newspaper interviews where he said there had never been a credible census in Nigeria, including the one in 2006, and that the 2016 one which he had been charged with conducting was doomed to fail

vaxx:
You in particular have been pulling a lot of crap and bullshit from your anus and calling it a valid point. i am here to correct that hogwash of yours, your silly attempts to rubbed Nigeria in the mud by telling the Nigerian statistical data is unreliable is unfashionable. because we aren't delluded to be brainwashed.


you went in there , insert your hands into your anus and brought out a links without examine it what other credible evidence available. just because the articule state what pleases your preconsive ignorance. the only reliable data on Nigeria population is Nigeria bureau of statistics. and anything contrary to tbat is a statement of ignorance. even if at all, there is a margin og error for political benefit, it should be within the minimum acceptance because of economical implication.

rvp2018:
You overcooked GDP dropped from nearly 600B to 350B recently. That should worry you more. You real economy is 200B. Kenya will be there in around 7-8yrs. By 2030 kenya economy will be the size of Egypt or South Africa. Nobody can question the credibility of RSA or Egypt figures. But yours definitely are laughable and the average Nigerian knows that.

What should worry you more is your $60bn economy and your debt burden to China.

Just30:

I love Accra's wide roads.

The agreement is not to rock the census boat. So because they are so incredibly corrupted and manipulated - what NBS attempt to do - is to revise the figures to the accepted consensus. You'd expect Lagos to see huge population increase as more and more people move there - but you don't see it.

mtisTheQubit:

Ibrah my guy explain to be ths.in slow motion please if possible..what th dang is ths

rvp2018:
If you had capacity - you would be holding census regularly - credible census. you won't be quoting indeximulli when the min of agriculture is asked for figures. It a ridicolous joke. I think WB need to revist that - if indeed that was true. Maybe they are using Nigeria new data against Kenya old data.

Yeah they are using Nigeria's 2017 figures against Kenya's 1960 figures. Come on dude, this is the WB here, all figures are for 2017.

So you ridicule it because of census?

Just check the methodology.

Remember you guys couldn't provide me with your budget and debt details? Remember that? Apparently it's one of the factors considered.

http://datatopics.worldbank.org/statisticalcapacity/SCIdashboard.aspx

A Nigerian lass I know walked me into it!

obaaderemi:
How did you get to hear about nairaland?

rvp2018:
Read there damn fool. Let argue about other stuff - not the OBVIOUSLY MANIPULATED NIGERIA STATS.

In 2013, the former chairman of the NPC, Festus Odimegwu, managed to talk himself out of a job with a series of controversial comments. 24 out of the NPC’s 35 commissioners asked the president to fire him from his job as they had lost all confidence in him. Before then he had been queried by the presidency for giving newspaper interviews where he said there had never been a credible census in Nigeria, including the one in 2006, and that the 2016 one which he had been charged with conducting was doomed to fail

.You need to be educated first before we can argue. i will only argue with you when i sense a presence of inteligence in you , until then, i will be correcting your ignorance by educatiing you.