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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:44am On Jan 27, 2019 |
Our economic is firing on all it's cylinders. Yours had it growth projection slashed by IMF by 0.3 points. Now it will crawl at 2% - while you population growth is nearly 3-4%! your GDP per capita - is hemorrhaging - at possibly -1 or 2% annually. Ours is growing at 6.5% this year, population growth is 1.5%, inflation has been single digit forever, and KSHS is one world strongest currency against USD. We have never really had a debt crisis. That is strange thing. We will repay that debt and borrow more. obaaderemi: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:45am On Jan 27, 2019 |
rvp2018:but atleast they should have run a smarter code to top up some states while reducing others by a fraction ..that would be much convincing |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:49am On Jan 27, 2019 |
Jonraid:You mean led you by the nose into nairaland and you have remained addicted ever since. Keep lying to yourself. It sounds sweet. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:50am On Jan 27, 2019 |
If it's true that they haven't hold a credible census as of late,why would he then trust the numbers? We can only give those numbers a benefit of doubt just because only one body is required to provide the census information! That explains why the WB and other bodies rolled on with the Nigerian figures! vaxx: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:51am On Jan 27, 2019 |
rvp2018:Your economy is a bubble bouyed up by debt. Even at that it's shameful to have an economy smaller than Lagos's. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:52am On Jan 27, 2019 |
National Chairman of the National Population Commission, NPC, Eze Festus Odimegwu Blaming the irregularity on distortion and falsification of figures for selfish and political reasons by politicians, Odimegwu had said: “No census has been credible in Nigeria since 1863. Even the one conducted in 2006 is not credible. I have the records and evidence produced by scholars and professors of repute. This is not my report. If the current laws are not amended, the planned 2016 census will not succeed.” Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/10/odimegwu-quits-npc-boss/ |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 10:52am On Jan 27, 2019 |
mtisTheQubit:I am as confused as you are. 2006 census is a joke, nobody argues that but to say Nigeria's population is 150m How and where do you hide 50m people? That's like whole of Kenya! |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:52am On Jan 27, 2019 |
She begged,I was only being a gentleman you wanksplat! obaaderemi: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Binikingdowm: 10:53am On Jan 27, 2019 |
obaaderemi:yet Lagos can't boast of Even 12 hours power supply A functioning health care A good water supply Good roads 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:55am On Jan 27, 2019 |
You need to understand how they operate.National Population Commission that does census has 36 commissioners. I think Each state appoint a commissioner. During the actual census every state races to inflate their figures because FEDERAL ALLOCATION is dependant on it. At least with election they may deploy biometric - but Census is just poor enumators filling papers. The census become so much manipulated - 2006 - the actual census showed they were 200M Nigerian So the 36 commissioners sat down and culled the figures using the accepted "%". Lagos can expect to be always 6% of Nigeria. There was really no need to waste 1B dollars in 2016 to do another census. mtisTheQubit: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:57am On Jan 27, 2019 |
Jonraid:You idiot. I guess she also begged you to stay addicted. She has you trapped by your balls then. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:58am On Jan 27, 2019 |
So if you accept the census are manipulated. You do accept the manipulation is not to reduce the population. Every state for economic and political reason want to appear more populous. It reasonable for me if you at least accept Nigeria population is INFLATED. It less than officially stated. It could be 5 or 10 or 50M inflated. Just like you also need to accept the GDP is over-stated to make Nigeria Africa top dog while everyone knows Egypt with 100M and zero povery - and South Africa with proper middle class - are just reasonable 350B. Ibrahimanis: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 11:02am On Jan 27, 2019 |
It's the other way around actually. She's on my leash Let us get back to the discussion. The banter is over! obaaderemi: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:02am On Jan 27, 2019 |
Binikingdowm:The same Lagos has a airport busier than the one in Nairobi and a sea port busier than the busiest port in east Africa. Literacy level in that same Lagos is higher than in Nairobi, Kenya's number one city. What's more, that same Lagos has fewer of its people living in slums than Nairobi. Of course, Lagos has it's bad side but that's one city you can't wave aside. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:03am On Jan 27, 2019 |
Jonraid:The same way lupita nyongwhatever was in the chains of bolaji, her Nigerian boyfriend |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by edon21: 11:03am On Jan 27, 2019 |
https://www.nairaland.com/4506171/some-ongoing-island-projects-lagos#67589701 I think this should keep some haters quiet. instead of thinking about how to develop your country, you are blabbing nonsense |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Binikingdowm: 11:04am On Jan 27, 2019 |
obaaderemi:busy because it's the only airport safe enough for travel in the entire 36 states. That's nothing to be proud of infact it's a shame. Illiteracy level dished out by Nigeria propaganda media? 60% of Lagosians can't sleep aeroplane |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:05am On Jan 27, 2019 |
There you go with lies. Lagos Airport has since 2015/2016 trailed Nairobi's JKIA in all the statistics - passengers, cargo and flight movement. Nairobi still has one of most busiest airport in Wilson airstrip. It's sea port also has been overtaken by Mombasa - both Apapa & Tin Can. For a city with population twice or more Nairobi - Lagos is very poor. obaaderemi: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:06am On Jan 27, 2019 |
rvp2018:Take your jealousy and grievances to the IMF and world bank and stop crying here where your tears are fruitless. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 11:06am On Jan 27, 2019 |
rvp2018:You can't just increase your population and get more allocation, it's not that simple. https://economicconfidential.com/2007/04/economic-confidential-27/ 200m Nigerians in 2006? And you said we are growing 3-4pct? And still 200m Nigerians 2019? Looks like someone's statistical capacity is limited. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by edon21: 11:07am On Jan 27, 2019 |
rvp2018:ro do you also count the ones abroad |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Binikingdowm: 11:08am On Jan 27, 2019 |
See the useless Lagos they are always proud of. https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/features/lagos-is-the-8th-most-dangerous-city-in-the-world-for-women-now-what/amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2018/08/lagos-third-worst-city-to-live-in-says-eiu-report/amp/ https://punchng.com/lagos-ranked-2nd-worlds-least-liveable-city/ |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:08am On Jan 27, 2019 |
I have nothing but pity for Nigeria. I'd be a little envious about a progressive country like Ghana. obaaderemi: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:08am On Jan 27, 2019 |
rvp2018:Your lies have been debunked here over and over. I am sure you haven't gotten over the shock that Lagos's port is busier than Mombasa port. Maybe ibrahimanis can help us with that chart again. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Binikingdowm: 11:09am On Jan 27, 2019 |
Nigeria is doomed 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Binikingdowm: 11:10am On Jan 27, 2019 |
rvp2018:don't ever compare Ghana with Nigeria. Compare us with Sudan and Iraq, even Iraq is 50 times Better than us |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:10am On Jan 27, 2019 |
rvp2018:I have nothing but pity and fear for the future of Kenya. A country selling only coffee and flowers and yet in debt to it's eyeballs. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:10am On Jan 27, 2019 |
I know the formulae has been changing but for federal allocation (oil) and political seats ( I think number of mps) - states have every motive to inflate their population. 200M figure came from NPC insider. The 140M that was finally released was the compromise arrived by all states - basically they projected a credible figure that won't make the laughing stock and kept the % of the previous census intact. if you give every state the allowance to add 1.5M fake nigerians - then roughly 50M nigerians are fake. Why do I think Nigerians are 150M. I simply used the telephone subscribers. Those figures are around 140-150m . Kenya which is similar to nigeria has around 45-50M. That is called CROSS-REFERENCING. Ibrahimanis: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 11:12am On Jan 27, 2019 |
Jonraid:A sensible question there... Nigeria fragile political structure and the Federal Government poor budgetary allocation may be some of the reasons. The only credible statistics we have as of now it is the one from Nigeria bureau of statistics. why? because it is the only government official representative on such account. i agree to some extent, there may be some margins of error, but this error can not be over balloon because of economical implication. And if you go by the united nations data, Nigeria population is growing by 2 percent per year , so just do tbe calculations with a lesser gap of 20million from 2006 and see what we get, it should give you nothing less than 180 million people. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Binikingdowm: 11:14am On Jan 27, 2019 |
rvp2018:you are very intelligent, I'll tell you the secret. The northern Nigeria is worthless with no natural resources, they planned with British to join us together even though we have nothing in common. They inflated their population so they can have 3x more electoral value than the south. When allocation is been given, they take over 90% of it. When federal jobs are been given, they take all of it. But when it's time to fight war, they'll take southern soldiers to go and die 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:14am On Jan 27, 2019 |
Ibrahimanis:The fool is confused. His obsession with Nigeria has put asunder his brains and his fingers. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:16am On Jan 27, 2019 |
There are ways to knows if data is manipulated. Let me give you one example. Number of telephone/mobile subscription. Ghana pop is 28-30M. It's active subscriber base is 35M. Kenya pop is 47-48M. It's active subscriber base is around 46.4m (4th Q of 2018). Nigera pop is 200M. It's active subscriber base is 169m (4th Q of 2018) https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/12/nigerias-active-telephone-subscription-hits-169m/ Kenya Active subscribe base is 46.4M (https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/analysis/ideas/Ring-up-our-unique-subscribers-for-true-mobile-penetration/4259414-4929584-138mpmc/index.html) Both these 3 countries have the same profiles - lower -middle class sub-saharan countries. If you accept Nigeria pop is 200M. Trust me it's mobile subscriber base would be 250-300M. That is because generally some people will have 2-3 lines. We already know for a fact that it's population is manipulated and corrupted in the race to get bigger share of oil revenues & political seats at Abuja. We can therefore conclude that based on mobile subscriptions it numbers are around 150M That is not an idle guesstimate. CIA/IMF/WB will never question any country - even Somalia - figures. Those are accepted as fait accompli. If you question any country figures then you'd need 3000 plus pages of arguments. vaxx: |
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