TheGoodJoe:


The Spine of Rohr’s team was already there before his arrival. So putting the current crop of players on him is unrealistic.

TheGoodJoe:


The Spine of Rohr’s team was already there before his arrival. So putting the current crop of players on him is unrealistic.

charlesemeka85:
nice one bro!

TheGoodJoe:


[s]The growth in talent of the squad has nothing to do with Rohr but the growth from the last two U17 we won, the growth of academies in the country and the exposure of our local agents. Before Rohr took over, Salisu called a fairly strong squad too. Under Keshi, we did not have the talents available.[/s]

bobobooge:


Salisu's team is basic and limited.

Tell me what impact the U17 and academies success played in the following;

1. Solving the RB problem with the addition of Collins and Idowu

2. Solving the GK problem after Carl fell sick

3. Bringing strict competition with the call up of the likes of Sanrenren bazee, Ebuehi etc?

My point:
The success of Rohr's team is beyond the recent successes of our U17s and academies. Give him kudos for his input.

bobobooge:


Your welcome bro.

I needed to sound the alarm because of the recent trends here.

1. Relentlessly posting players from backwater leagues. Someone even posted a player from an Egyptian league and argued they are stronger than many good leagues in Europe.

2. Castigating quality additions due to unfounded PRIDE. Many of the people who regularly post players from backwater leagues still went ahead and castigated the welcome back of Victor Moses.

Not in anyway berating players from obscure leagues. But perhaps they should only be good enough for our team C or team D

We need to start gunning for Glory 2022! And stop faulting the NFF or Rohr for trying to woo these players e.g Tammy. This is business. When we woo a player he has the freedom to reject or accept. But we try as much as possible to make them accept.



#Glory 2022! #WC on an African soil, Nigeria!

bobobooge:


Your welcome bro.

I needed to sound the alarm because of the recent trends here.

1. Relentlessly posting players from backwater leagues. Someone even posted a player from an Egyptian league and argued they are stronger than many good leagues in Europe.

2. Castigating quality additions due to unfounded PRIDE. Many of the people who regularly post players from backwater leagues still went ahead and castigated the welcome back of Victor Moses.

Not in anyway berating players from obscure leagues. But perhaps they should only be good enough for our team C or team D

We need to start gunning for Glory 2022! And stop faulting the NFF or Rohr for trying to woo these players e.g Tammy. This is business. When we woo a player he has the freedom to reject or accept. But we try as much as possible to make them accept.



#Glory 2022! #WC on an African soil, Nigeria!

edi287:

Yep. He's def a loss...forget the "Sadiq Umar is better crowd".

Mickael2:


Did someone actually say that!!

mostob:
Somebody said Tammy will easily make our AFCON squad. I can't help but SMH. which AFCON squad? The first time we approach him , he decline in a rude,egoistic and disrespectful manner and some people want us to approach him again so he can nail us to cross abi? WTF If he finally decide to play for us , that means we will be having another vicmo situation in the next 7/8 years. That boy is rude and I see nothing special about him. We have got young and promising strikers in osimhen and Awoniyi and somebody want us to approach one overfed and over pampered kid. na wa o

TheGoodJoe:


The growth in talent of the squad has nothing to do with Rohr but the growth from the last two U17 we won, the growth of academies in the country and the exposure of our local agents. Before Rohr took over, Salisu called a fairly strong squad too. Under Keshi, we did not have the talents available.

Worst part is that despite the talents available, Rohr lacks the tactical insight to come up and develop the best crop of talents in each position.

TheGoodJoe:


The same Keshi we know who fielded an amateur Omeruo at the AFCON who became one of the best defenders in the competition is who you want us to believe will not field a regular at Villarreal.

Na wa.

Mickael2:



It pains me that people do not understand that with the present players we have on ground, Rohr should be utterly ashamed of his output. It is appalling that people would look at the crop of players we have and blindly accept being battered by Libya and South Africa just because 'we got the result'. At some point the results will stop coming and that is when you will question the style of play, look at Arsenal, 18(?) games unbeaten at some point but you look at the team and how they defend and you know that the end is in sight and when it came it was catastrophic. This is what we are headed for come this AFCON when they big boys will come to the party. If Egypt outplays us the way Libya did and they create that number of chances what will Salah be doing if not padding his stats? The AFCON no far sha

Mickael2:


The same Keshi that was playing Musa when he was playing for the U20 will all of a sudden look the other way. Recency bias is the problem with Nigerians, we do not appreciate people when they are gone, we believe the next guy is the best. Keshi took a young, untested Onazi to the nations cup and he easily made the team of the tournament.

bobobooge:


Salisu's team is basic and limited.

Tell me what impact the U17 and academies success played in the following;

1. Solving the RB problem with the addition of Collins and Idowu

2. Solving the GK problem after Carl fell sick

3. Bringing strict competition with the call up of the likes of Sanrenren bazee, Ebuehi etc?

My point:
The success of Rohr's team is beyond the recent successes of our U17s and academies. Give him kudos for his input.

charlesemeka85:
which match did libya outplayed us and why are you bringing arsenal as a reference point here? when was the last time nigeria qualified for afcon? lastly who are the world class players you presume we have? bros no allow sentiment blind you. no super eagles player not making caf team of the year is a testament that our current crop of player are not what we hype them to be

charlesemeka85:
and where are tested oboabona,mba,egwueke,uzoenyi,kwambe,agbim,oshaniwa,reuben today?

edi287:

He was being blunt. We really wanted him but he chose England. Simple as that.
The red carpet treatment was just a figure of speech. I think Akpoguma was even more 'disrespectful' but he doesn't even get half the hate Tammy does.

charlesemeka85:
which match did libya outplayed us and why are you bringing arsenal as a reference point here? when was the last time nigeria qualified for afcon? lastly who are the world class players you presume we have? bros no allow sentiment blind you. no super eagles player not making caf team of the year is a testament that our current crop of player are not what we hype them to be

Mickael2:


Sorry, do you know where Chukwueze, Awoniyi, Collins(who else has Rohr even added to the team?) will be in a few years time? So Keshi was supposed to see into the future before inviting them? The point is at the 2013 AFCON and the 2014 World Cup these guys played and they played very well, I don't understand how it is Keshi's fault that their careers nosedived

bobobooge:


If you want me to be convinced by your argument I think you should not try to avoid my questions for clarity sake.

I have asked 3 questions up there.

I really would love to read your opinion on how the U17 and academies solved the problems I stated up there.

Thanks in anticipation.

Mickael2:


The same Keshi that was playing Musa when he was playing for the U20 will all of a sudden look the other way. Recency bias is the problem with Nigerians, we do not appreciate people when they are gone, we believe the next guy is the best. Keshi took a young, untested Onazi to the nations cup and he easily made the team of the tournament.

Mickael2:



It pains me that people do not understand that with the present players we have on ground, Rohr should be utterly ashamed of his output. It is appalling that people would look at the crop of players we have and blindly accept being battered by Libya and South Africa just because 'we got the result'. At some point the results will stop coming and that is when you will question the style of play, look at Arsenal, 18(?) games unbeaten at some point but you look at the team and how they defend and you know that the end is in sight and when it came it was catastrophic. This is what we are headed for come this AFCON when they big boys will come to the party. If Egypt outplays us the way Libya did and they create that number of chances what will Salah be doing if not padding his stats? The AFCON no far sha

Mickael2:



It pains me that people do not understand that with the present players we have on ground, Rohr should be utterly ashamed of his output. It is appalling that people would look at the crop of players we have and blindly accept being battered by Libya and South Africa just because 'we got the result'. At some point the results will stop coming and that is when you will question the style of play, look at Arsenal, 18(?) games unbeaten at some point but you look at the team and how they defend and you know that the end is in sight and when it came it was catastrophic. This is what we are headed for come this AFCON when they big boys will come to the party. If Egypt outplays us the way Libya did and they create that number of chances what will Salah be doing if not padding his stats? The AFCON no far sha

charlesemeka85:
Were you expecting to ignore the best we have on ground when he came and build from the scratch? It's true he met thesome good players on ground put he has been able to give the team a new face and blooded in younger players who will be in the team for atleast the next decade. We are not talking about the team's spin but it's future. Mikel, odion and Co just have few years left in the team so what happens when they retire?

Mickael2:


I am trying to find the stats from that game, that is why I hate African football it is so hard to get the stats but I am certain Libya had more shots that we did, created way better chances than we did and could have easily won that game 5-3, in fact I mentioned it here that with a better strike they would have taken us to the cleaners. Maybe yiy should try to rewatch the match though

After the shambolic display against Libya and SA what we were told is that so long as he is getting results no problems. Arsenal were getting results not long ago but now people have noticed they aren't that good since the results don finish, hence the comparison.

You do not need to have world class players to make a decent team. A bunch of average players in every position is good enough to make a good team. If you need world class players then Japan shouldn't be qualifying for the second round of the world cup. We have average players no doubt, I say that a lot but with better coaching and proper tactics, a decent team can be made out of these average players.

Ughh what are you saying about AFCON??

charlesemeka85:
where i fault keshi is he didnt have the foresight to prepare the team for the future which backfired when we failed to qualify for afcon back to back. what do you expect when 60% of the players he gave a chance in the team were age cheats who have been recycled from one local club to another in the local league but ignored emerging talents who would have remained relevance for more years to come?

for your information rohr brought in the likes of ebuehi,idowu,aina,collins,onyekuru,chukwueze,uzoho,oshimeh,ajayi and is on the look out searching for more talents