TheGoodJoe:


You ended it with an attack.

Simple, There are a lot of quality coaches who would not handle the Super Eagles in such Conservative manner. We have been down this route for so long but still, after many months, we tuck our tails and played the South Africans with so much fear.

I guess the offensive coaches who have built their careers playing offensively lack coaching ideas.

I am saying Rohr lacks the creative idea to build a formidable team that will make us challenge for top honours.

I can bet if Siasia was in the helm of affairs of this team for this long, we would be playing in much braver fashion and delivering better results.

I feel like puking when I watch us play and I am not exaggerating.

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I was even expecting a Zidane or Pep.

Siasia that couldn't manage a 2-1 lead against Guinea. A lead that would have been enough for us to qualify instead he was gunning for a compressive 3-1 win and he left the back open and bang Guinea equalized.

Siasia that couldn't maintain a 1-0 lead against Egypt in Abuja. I can see he attacked and won the return fixture in Alexandria.

I can bet u Siasia has learned his lessons and would not coach like that again.

And again who are the creative players that Rohr dropped from the team?

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I was even expecting a Zidane or Pep.

Siasia that couldn't manage a 2-1 lead against Guinea. A lead that would have been enough for us to qualify instead he was gunning for a compressive 3-1 win and he left the back open and bang Guinea equalized.

Siasia that couldn't maintain a 1-0 lead against Egypt in Abuja. I can see he attacked and won the return fixture in Alexandria.

I can bet u Siasia has learned his lessons and would not coach like that again.

And again who are the creative players that Rohr dropped from the team?

Icon4s:


U think this is ManCity?

You think coaches like being on the defensive end?

Show me the home game where Rohr went consciously defensive? The away game that we Defended our result were against Cameroon and SA. You think Cameroon and SA will be the ones Defending when the result was not in their favor? They were expected to come all out and attack and then Rohr would have to protect what he had. It is typical for losing teams to always be on the offensive. This is a no brainer.

Please drop all this text book tactics and go for a real coaching certificate.

And please who are the creative players that were dropped from the team?

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I was even expecting a Zidane or Pep.

Siasia that couldn't manage a 2-1 lead against Guinea. A lead that would have been enough for us to qualify instead he was gunning for a compressive 3-1 win and he left the back open and bang Guinea equalized.

Siasia that couldn't maintain a 1-0 lead against Egypt in Abuja. I can see he attacked and won the return fixture in Alexandria.

I can bet u Siasia has learned his lessons and would not coach like that again.

And again who are the creative players that Rohr dropped from the team?

TheGoodJoe:


I can understand making do with the resources available but in Rohr’s case, he is not. A good example is his fear to utilise the abilities of Aina and Ebuehi. He will resort to using Shehu in tough games because he lacks the ability to set up the team in an offensive manner. His selection is mostly towards a Conservative set up. Even when he is attacking, his foot is on the breaks. We are just sailing by but we are not growing into a formidable side. This is due to us not working towards it.

edi287:

The question was if Tammy was rude in the way he rejected us - answer is NO.

damagnificentusb:




I tire my broda. sometime when the goodjoe describes d way and manner he expect us to play. I begin to wonder if we all of sudden we nave d array of talent to play DAT way. Common its d SUPER EAGLES OF "NIGERIA". It actually do sound like fiction to me(thegoodjoes dream). ofcourse , attaining such is certainly not impossible but requires time. I do not think d NFF and definitely football loving Nigerians will be patient enough with d team to master such style of play or do u expect d team to get immediate results if/when we start playing in DAT manner?? let's be patient with d coach, for me he(rohr) as been a suucess with d team so far.

TheGoodJoe:


I have already listed three players that will show you the mentality of Rohr and how it has held the team back.

His handling of Ebuehi, Aina and Onyekuru.

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I was even expecting a Zidane or Pep.

Siasia that couldn't manage a 2-1 lead against Guinea. A lead that would have been enough for us to qualify instead he was gunning for a compressive 3-1 win and he left the back open and bang Guinea equalized.

Siasia that couldn't maintain a 1-0 lead against Egypt in Abuja. I can see he attacked and won the return fixture in Alexandria.

I can bet u Siasia has learned his lessons and would not coach like that again.

And again who are the creative players that Rohr dropped from the team?

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The WC games that Aina played how did he fair? He didn't even show enough to displace Echiejile.

As for Ebuehi, Abdullahi Shehu at that time of the Qualifiers was having a form of his life. Rohr needed a very strong RB that could cope with the physicality of the Cameroonians. That aside you dont throw in a Newbie into a very crucial game of that calibre.

Finally you don't change a winning team. That is a vital philosophy of coaching and this is more prevailent for the national teams.

elyte89:



Wc match again?


@sir chriskel,come answer dis question o


Btw,e don tey o,my chairman

bobobooge:



My guts tell me he may be referring to Rohr's disfavor towards the likes of Onyekuru because of their defensive deficiencies


And I remember feeling "Keshi should have been more conservative" during the confeds in whivh I had high hopes for and in which we lost 3-0 and 2-0 to Spain and Uruguay respectively. Where did all the attacking play get us?

bobobooge:



My guts tell me he may be referring to Rohr's disfavor towards the likes of Onyekuru because of their defensive deficiencies


And I remember feeling "Keshi should have been more conservative" during the confeds in whivh I had high hopes for and in which we lost 3-0 and 2-0 to Spain and Uruguay respectively. Where did all the attacking play get us?

TheGoodJoe:


I totally disagree with you. Siasia problem was time. With more games in hand, Siasia would have qualified us. Unlike Rohr who has had a great deal of time and not moved us an inch.

Siasia is a brilliant offensive mind but has been denied the time to build a formidable team.

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I have responded to Aina and Ebuehi.

On Onyekuru even now I am still yet to see what he brings to the team, he and Success. Unlike Samuel Kalu, Onyekuru and Success are yet to show us what they can really offer that team.

bobobooge:



My guts tell me he may be referring to Rohr's disfavor towards the likes of Onyekuru because of their defensive deficiencies


And I remember feeling "Keshi should have been more conservative" during the confeds in whivh I had high hopes for and in which we lost 3-0 and 2-0 to Spain and Uruguay respectively. Where did all the attacking play get us?

Icon4s:


Siasia was in charge for the whole of the 2012 AFCON qualfiers yet his attacking philosophy failed us. Before then the last time I withnessed Nigeria crashing out in an AFCON qualfiers was in 1985 ie qualfiers for the '86 AFCON in Ivory Coast.

TheGoodJoe:


We lost to Spain in the confeds but one thing was clear, we gave them one of their toughest games of the tournament. We were on route to something but unfortunately, other factors affected the team.

Conservative football keeps the team stagnant or even rolls the team back in quality.

To become a top team takes conscious efforts and bravery or we will stay were we are. Scared of South Africa.

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Onyekuru that could not trap a simple pass against Libya and ended up foiling a beautiful goal bound move. I am yet to see what Henry Onyekuru has to offer that team. Can u compare him with Samuel Kalu? Even Chukwueze with his 45mins display against Uganda has shown us that can be a viable option at the Right wing.

TheGoodJoe:


We can not expect stellar performances from the players if the set up and playing pattern is lethargic. The system first.

Remember the game against SA at Uyo where Rohr kept introducing forwards but the result was still dire? That is what a poor a set up does to the players.

Look at how lethargic Rashford, Martial, Lukaku and Sanchez looked in Mourinho's system. Look at them now in a more refreshing system. That is how models of play affects forwards.

Finito.

bobobooge:


But mighty Spain went South Africa an lost by a goal.

If we had attacked SA and that boy who kept on dribbling us (can't remember his name) had a chance to penetrate and set up a winning goal against us, wouldn't Rohr be counted foolish to throw away our qualification chances?

I watched the game closely. For the better part of the 2nd half SA found us impenetrable. We had them exactly where we wanted them.

Icon4s:


Oga, Mourinho was not getting results. Rohr is getting results. There is no room for comparison.

Whether u like it or not Rohr has elevated Nigeria to be one of the most dreaded teams in Africa. Any team coming to play in Uyo now will be ready for fire and brine stone.

TheGoodJoe:


In your Rohr’s system he can not trap ball. In better systems, he is one of the hot property in Europe. Food for thought.

TheGoodJoe:




Rohr is getting the small gains. You like it, some like it. That is good for those who do.

I am saying in the long run, we are not making strides to build a formidable team.

By the way, Mourinho won the Europa League and EFL Cup.

TheGoodJoe:


Precisely my point. Short term gains. If not, you cut it off, not setting sights at the bigger picture. It takes a long term growth with the site of a formidable team in future. Rohr has qualified us repeatedly but our play is dire and we will still play in a Conservative manner in coming games.

That is my kick against short term gains. It is not the right approach for the long term.

Icon4s:


Just like Joseph Akpala and Anthony Ujah were some of the hottest properties in Europe but they didn't know where the back of the nets were in the GWG.

Onyekuru better buckle up Josh Maja dey come o

TheGoodJoe:


You ended it with an attack.

Simple, There are a lot of quality coaches who would not handle the Super Eagles in such Conservative manner. We have been down this route for so long but still, after many months, we tuck our tails and played the South Africans with so much fear.

I guess from your opinion, the offensive coaches who have built their careers playing offensively lack coaching ideas.

I am saying Rohr lacks creative ideas to build a formidable team that will make us challenge for top honours.

I can bet if Siasia was at the helm of affairs of this team for this long, we would be playing in much braver fashion and delivering better results.

I feel like puking when I watch us play and I am not exaggerating.

edi287:

Tammy Abraham as of Jan 27 2019 is better than Osimhen and Awoniyi.

TheGoodJoe:


Precisely my point. Short term gains. If not, you cut it off, not setting sights at the bigger picture. It takes a long term growth with the site of a formidable team in future. Rohr has qualified us repeatedly but our play is dire and we will still play in a Conservative manner in coming games.

That is my kick against short term gains. It is not the right approach for the long term.

bobobooge:




Ghana has achieved a feat we are yet to. But guest what? They were conservative at the world cup, with only Gyan up top.

At a point Ghanaians nicknamed their team a one-goal project because they defended more often and hardly scored.

But they almost got to the semi's. Which still remains a dream to us.

How do you expect us to set up our team like Mancity when we do not been have defenders who can make runs or pass the ball into the midfield effectively.

Rohr has done very fine with our team. I am a happy fan.

TheGoodJoe:


Thank you. Tammy can be Messi for all I care. He kissed the Super Eagles good bye when he chose to Ridicule the call-up. That was a disrespect to the country, flag and people of the country.

I do not blame him sha? I blame Pinnick who treat these egoistic people as if our lives depend on them.