Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by lexy2014: 9:35am On Jan 31, 2019 |
LillianB: "Teachers are powerless, parents are powerless" future generation will be.....
I can relate with this. A Nigerian had 2 relocate back 2 Nigeria when he witnessed a child younger than 10years said she needed a sex change. Though d parents who are swedes disagreed, it was enforced by d state 3 Likes |
Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by Nobody: 9:36am On Jan 31, 2019 |
you cannot make it there sit you broke ass down in naija lazy Nigerian yoot na your type wey go go there begin dey do illegal activities dey bring shame to the shithole mascot345:
Bros abeg, I want to leave Nigeria,,, getting a Finland visa is it difficult. What's the minimum wage in Finland . Can one make it there. Please, reply a brother.
I am tired of Nigeria. |
Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by BruncleZuma: 9:36am On Jan 31, 2019 |
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Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by Nobody: 9:37am On Jan 31, 2019 |
LillianB: "Teachers are powerless, parents are powerless" future generation will be.....
Less power |
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Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by litaninja(m): 9:48am On Jan 31, 2019 |
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Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by Awoleesu(m): 9:48am On Jan 31, 2019 |
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Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by daddytime(m): 9:48am On Jan 31, 2019 |
Stewart83: I see alot of Nigerians wanting to move abroad but are unaware of the challenges there,most especially in Europe.
I moved to Sweden in 2006(Although presently in Nigeria now handling some things)At first I loved what I saw - free education, beautiful and abundant nature -even in the cities, well designed communities with plenty of free facilities, many free community activities and a strong commitment to sustainability.
However after living here a few years I began to notice that some things are very wrong and Sweden is not the paradise it appears to be at first glance. Here is my list of the biggest issues as I see them:
Firstly, there is no consumer choice. Generic and expensive goods line the same few large supermarket type shops. Small business is virtually nonexistent aside from the awful pizza/kebab, Asian food or hotdog/ hamburger stalls run by entrepeneurial immigrants. Customer service and special requests are also non existent. Innovation, warmth, product knowledge and creativity are strongly lacking in the commercial sector.
Immigrants are welcomed, with racism frowned upon harshly, however once these immigrants arrive they are segregated off away from the native Swedes, unable to find employment and unable to navigate the endless complex rule systems with strong risks of being persecuted by the social services. The ‘welcoming’ Swedes dont allow their children to set foot in immigrant suburbs or schools, and wonder why there is very little integration happening.
Swedish people are very unfriendly, closed minded and conforming. It is almost impossible to form close friendships. Winter is like hell. The first few months feel cosy and the snow is beautiful, but eventually the darkness, cold and boredom start wearing you down.
There are endless trivial rules which are harshly enforced. I wanted to get my licence in Sweden, but ticked a box on the licence form which asked about health issues. I have had declining kidney function (very irrelevant to driving) so I noted it down. I was unable to get a licence (I have been driving 15 years, but my Australian licence is not recognised here after the first year) because I needed a certificate from a kidney specialist. I was unable to be referred to a kidney specialist because my kidney function is not severely declined. When attempting to fix the issue - rules are rules, and thats simply the way it is. The issue is unable to be resolved so I am allowed to drive in neighbouring countries, but not here. Attempting to live here is filled with many similar incredibly frustrating experiences. Banks wont let you open an account except on weekday mornings, but dont let you know that until you have waited in a queue for several hours. There is no other option even if you work or study on weekday mornings, and nobody cares. Every simple process is a beaurocratic nightmare
Whilst at first I believed the free schools, childcare and medical services were a great family friendly policy, on closer interaction in the system I realised this is a system of control and incompetence which is not leading to positive outcomes. Firstly, everyone is expected to take their children to daycare and go to work.
There is no freedom of choice to look after your children, homeschool or rear your children according to your beliefs and values. Children are informed about endless rights, and have no obligations to behave in a respectful manner. Parents are powerless, teachers are powerless and getting an education in a swedish school is a debacle of children on phones and talking during class, swearing at teachers, abusing and bullying each other and any form of punishment towards unruly children is disallowed. School is somewhat reminiscent of lord of the flies.
Police are useless - except with regard to prosecuting minor crimes such as parking fines. Fewer than 3% of crimes are solved, reports are filed but never investigated - even with matters which are taken very seriously in the rest of the world such as violent crime and rape.
Whilst medical care is generally free to low cost, the wait times are insane. It could be 3 weeks to see your GP (too bad if the matter is urgent) and 10 months to see a specialist. Specialists are allowed to refuse referrals, and if you have a chronic illness you are likely in the wrong country.
So guys if you want to immigrate always think about the Pros & Cons so you won't regret!!!
I applaud you man for this great work...Ain't easy to type out.. 1 Like |
Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by Nobody: 9:49am On Jan 31, 2019 |
U better thank God u are in Sweden. Come to Naija Let me take u on a trip. Wait make I go charge my fone � |
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Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by Jimbadly: 9:53am On Jan 31, 2019 |
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Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by Nobody: 9:54am On Jan 31, 2019 |
So you went to qoura and copied this shiit posted by someone from a much better country than Nigeria. What do you want us to do? 7 Likes |
Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by Nobody: 9:59am On Jan 31, 2019 |
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Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by onehouse(m): 10:04am On Jan 31, 2019 |
What can i say? Poster most of the stuff you wrote are completely true but I have come to understand that it is not any better in Nigeria. Of course, if you have you money in Nigeria, you can get things done but there are certain aspect of life in Nigeria that make you wonder if life will ever gets better.
I have been living in Sweden for over 9 years now and I can tell you than it's much better here compare to Nigeria. Yes, there are rules and guide towards everything and the community isn't as interactive as what we have always enjoyed in Nigeria.
I can mention a bit of those good quality of life style here that makes it much better than Nigeria: 1. Free health care and dental care for kids from age 0-23 2. Strong labor union 3. Clean air 4. Good road network and transportation for all 5. Free education for its citizens and those on working permit. 6. Security of life and properties. 7. Monthly income from government if you have kids from 0 to 18 years of age. 8. Constant electricity unlike what we experience in nigeria today. 9. Ability to visit or live in other neighboring countries if you are a citizen and lots more
Even with this, you will agreed with me that not ever country has it all and there is not perfect system anywhere in the world. Of course, I very well understand your view of things but perspective towards life and where we find ourselves at times is a key towards having it better even in a system that doesn't favour or appeals to us 8 Likes |
Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by henryobinna(m): 10:05am On Jan 31, 2019 |
lexy2014:
I can relate with this. A Nigerian had 2 relocate back 2 Nigeria when he witnessed a child younger than 10years said she needed a sex change. Though d parents who are swedes disagreed, it was enforced by d state who paid for it? |
Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by AFONJACOW(m): 10:06am On Jan 31, 2019 |
Stewart83:
All im trying to say is all that glitters isn't Gold!! and why u didn't come back since Nigeria is some sort of heaven |
Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by biggestmanhood(m): 10:07am On Jan 31, 2019 |
OdikwaRisky: have you seen any rich white man you can link me up with? My P is too precious for smelly naija guys. mo fe lati japa, need to leave this shithole for una make una dey drag shít with Buhari/atinku abeg borrow sense |
Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by Ademat7(m): 10:07am On Jan 31, 2019 |
ibrahimovic303: Wow just wow...I live in Finland myself and always visit Stockholm via Viking Cruise, I never knew it is like that there. This means that these are generally easier here in Finland, because e.g with our local drivers license from Naija, we can get Finnish temporary license immediately and after verification, the original can be obtained in some months...lol no wonder Finns don’t like Swedes one bit lol Your moniker suggest you are a Swedish 2 Likes |
Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by cocolacec(m): 10:08am On Jan 31, 2019 |
Newboss: I think Sweden has the highest rape cases in the world. Sweden is not the rape capital of the world.If a man rapes a woman or even your own wife several times,it will counted as several rapes. |
Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by cocolacec(m): 10:11am On Jan 31, 2019 |
ibrahimovic303: Wow just wow...I live in Finland myself and always visit Stockholm via Viking Cruise, I never knew it is like that there. This means that these are generally easier here in Finland, because e.g with our local drivers license from Naija, we can get Finnish temporary license immediately and after verification, the original can be obtained in some months...lol no wonder Finns don’t like Swedes one bit lol The write up is not all true,i lived in Sweden before you can use your Nigerian driver’s licence for 1 year as a new arrival.Why is Sweden the choice country for Arabos.For Aduro it is the best country after Germany,UK in Europe. Americans and all these citizens from developed countries are the ones complaning about Sweden as if gun violence is not a problem in America. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by cocolacec(m): 10:15am On Jan 31, 2019 |
Ademat7:
Your moniker suggest you are a Swedish Ibrahimovic is an Eastern European name slavic i think. Swedes have name like Stennsson,Erikson ,ottodotter meaning son/ daughter of amongst other names 3 Likes |
Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by ogatboy(m): 10:15am On Jan 31, 2019 |
Different stroke for different folks. Others will give a better experience. I have visted most Schengen countries and making friends is easy as long as its with right motive |
Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by Babysho(m): 10:19am On Jan 31, 2019 |
Stewart83: I see alot of Nigerians wanting to move abroad but are unaware of the challenges there,most especially in Europe.
I moved to Sweden in 2006(Although presently in Nigeria now handling some things)At first I loved what I saw - free education, beautiful and abundant nature -even in the cities, well designed communities with plenty of free facilities, many free community activities and a strong commitment to sustainability.
However after living here a few years I began to notice that some things are very wrong and Sweden is not the paradise it appears to be at first glance. Here is my list of the biggest issues as I see them:
Firstly, there is no consumer choice. Generic and expensive goods line the same few large supermarket type shops. Small business is virtually nonexistent aside from the awful pizza/kebab, Asian food or hotdog/ hamburger stalls run by entrepeneurial immigrants. Customer service and special requests are also non existent. Innovation, warmth, product knowledge and creativity are strongly lacking in the commercial sector.
Immigrants are welcomed, with racism frowned upon harshly, however once these immigrants arrive they are segregated off away from the native Swedes, unable to find employment and unable to navigate the endless complex rule systems with strong risks of being persecuted by the social services. The ‘welcoming’ Swedes dont allow their children to set foot in immigrant suburbs or schools, and wonder why there is very little integration happening.
Swedish people are very unfriendly, closed minded and conforming. It is almost impossible to form close friendships. Winter is like hell. The first few months feel cosy and the snow is beautiful, but eventually the darkness, cold and boredom start wearing you down.
There are endless trivial rules which are harshly enforced. I wanted to get my licence in Sweden, but ticked a box on the licence form which asked about health issues. I have had declining kidney function (very irrelevant to driving) so I noted it down. I was unable to get a licence (I have been driving 15 years, but my Australian licence is not recognised here after the first year) because I needed a certificate from a kidney specialist. I was unable to be referred to a kidney specialist because my kidney function is not severely declined. When attempting to fix the issue - rules are rules, and thats simply the way it is. The issue is unable to be resolved so I am allowed to drive in neighbouring countries, but not here. Attempting to live here is filled with many similar incredibly frustrating experiences. Banks wont let you open an account except on weekday mornings, but dont let you know that until you have waited in a queue for several hours. There is no other option even if you work or study on weekday mornings, and nobody cares. Every simple process is a beaurocratic nightmare
Whilst at first I believed the free schools, childcare and medical services were a great family friendly policy, on closer interaction in the system I realised this is a system of control and incompetence which is not leading to positive outcomes. Firstly, everyone is expected to take their children to daycare and go to work.
There is no freedom of choice to look after your children, homeschool or rear your children according to your beliefs and values. Children are informed about endless rights, and have no obligations to behave in a respectful manner. Parents are powerless, teachers are powerless and getting an education in a swedish school is a debacle of children on phones and talking during class, swearing at teachers, abusing and bullying each other and any form of punishment towards unruly children is disallowed. School is somewhat reminiscent of lord of the flies.
Police are useless - except with regard to prosecuting minor crimes such as parking fines. Fewer than 3% of crimes are solved, reports are filed but never investigated - even with matters which are taken very seriously in the rest of the world such as violent crime and rape.
Whilst medical care is generally free to low cost, the wait times are insane. It could be 3 weeks to see your GP (too bad if the matter is urgent) and 10 months to see a specialist. Specialists are allowed to refuse referrals, and if you have a chronic illness you are likely in the wrong country.
So guys if you want to immigrate always think about the Pros & Cons so you won't regret!!!
This is to an extent, a form of plagiarism. You ought to let people know that it's not your words. 3 Likes |
Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by zizi4real: 10:21am On Jan 31, 2019 |
ibrahimovic303: Wow just wow...I live in Finland myself and always visit Stockholm via Viking Cruise, I never knew it is like that there. This means that these are generally easier here in Finland, because e.g with our local drivers license from Naija, we can get Finnish temporary license immediately and after verification, the original can be obtained in some months...lol no wonder Finns don’t like Swedes one bit lol Finland Norway are very good countries, the problem with Sweden is they have so many Arabs who even rape and do some many shit that’s why they don’t care about immigrant,they allow you to come in but after that you are on your own 2 Likes |
Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by emecheboy2(m): 10:23am On Jan 31, 2019 |
Stewart83: I see alot of Nigerians wanting to move abroad but are unaware of the challenges there,most especially in Europe.
I moved to Sweden in 2006(Although presently in Nigeria now handling some things)At first I loved what I saw - free education, beautiful and abundant nature -even in the cities, well designed communities with plenty of free facilities, many free community activities and a strong commitment to sustainability.
However after living here a few years I began to notice that some things are very wrong and Sweden is not the paradise it appears to be at first glance. Here is my list of the biggest issues as I see them:
Firstly, there is no consumer choice. Generic and expensive goods line the same few large supermarket type shops. Small business is virtually nonexistent aside from the awful pizza/kebab, Asian food or hotdog/ hamburger stalls run by entrepeneurial immigrants. Customer service and special requests are also non existent. Innovation, warmth, product knowledge and creativity are strongly lacking in the commercial sector.
Immigrants are welcomed, with racism frowned upon harshly, however once these immigrants arrive they are segregated off away from the native Swedes, unable to find employment and unable to navigate the endless complex rule systems with strong risks of being persecuted by the social services. The ‘welcoming’ Swedes dont allow their children to set foot in immigrant suburbs or schools, and wonder why there is very little integration happening.
Swedish people are very unfriendly, closed minded and conforming. It is almost impossible to form close friendships. Winter is like hell. The first few months feel cosy and the snow is beautiful, but eventually the darkness, cold and boredom start wearing you down.
There are endless trivial rules which are harshly enforced. I wanted to get my licence in Sweden, but ticked a box on the licence form which asked about health issues. I have had declining kidney function (very irrelevant to driving) so I noted it down. I was unable to get a licence (I have been driving 15 years, but my Australian licence is not recognised here after the first year) because I needed a certificate from a kidney specialist. I was unable to be referred to a kidney specialist because my kidney function is not severely declined. When attempting to fix the issue - rules are rules, and thats simply the way it is. The issue is unable to be resolved so I am allowed to drive in neighbouring countries, but not here. Attempting to live here is filled with many similar incredibly frustrating experiences. Banks wont let you open an account except on weekday mornings, but dont let you know that until you have waited in a queue for several hours. There is no other option even if you work or study on weekday mornings, and nobody cares. Every simple process is a beaurocratic nightmare
Whilst at first I believed the free schools, childcare and medical services were a great family friendly policy, on closer interaction in the system I realised this is a system of control and incompetence which is not leading to positive outcomes. Firstly, everyone is expected to take their children to daycare and go to work.
There is no freedom of choice to look after your children, homeschool or rear your children according to your beliefs and values. Children are informed about endless rights, and have no obligations to behave in a respectful manner. Parents are powerless, teachers are powerless and getting an education in a swedish school is a debacle of children on phones and talking during class, swearing at teachers, abusing and bullying each other and any form of punishment towards unruly children is disallowed. School is somewhat reminiscent of lord of the flies.
Police are useless - except with regard to prosecuting minor crimes such as parking fines. Fewer than 3% of crimes are solved, reports are filed but never investigated - even with matters which are taken very seriously in the rest of the world such as violent crime and rape.
Whilst medical care is generally free to low cost, the wait times are insane. It could be 3 weeks to see your GP (too bad if the matter is urgent) and 10 months to see a specialist. Specialists are allowed to refuse referrals, and if you have a chronic illness you are likely in the wrong country.
So guys if you want to immigrate always think about the Pros & Cons so you won't regret!!!
Most Nigeria dont get it. what are your basic needs as a Nigerian going to sweden? Education right? get all the free education up to PHD and leave the fucking place. if you study in Sweden, Norway, Finland or Denmark no American company will refuse you a good job. 1 Like |
Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by cocolacec(m): 10:24am On Jan 31, 2019 |
Murphy123: The same country wey men dey do cleaning jobs; 6 hours a day and 5 days a week.
And you go still save clean 500k naira a month. After paying your bills and flexing.
Na oversabi go make you need car for Sweden self. Their transportation system reliable 24/7. With cleaning job you can never say 500k a month.expenses for 1 person in Sweden Housing is like 150,000 depends the city and location. Food. 80,000 Bus card. 100,000 Electricity. 20,000 Internet. 12,000 Miscellaneous exp. 50,000 |
Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by Neoteny(m): 10:24am On Jan 31, 2019 |
Stewart83
You should be ashamed of yourself for copying and pasting from Quora. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by Radiants: 10:30am On Jan 31, 2019 |
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Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by Murphy123: 10:30am On Jan 31, 2019 |
cocolacec:
With cleaning job you can never say 500k a month.That is your salary for the month. Plus or minus, how much is Swedish 11,000 krone to naira? |
Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by cocolacec(m): 10:32am On Jan 31, 2019 |
Murphy123:
Plus or minus, how much is Swedish 11,000 krone to naira? N40=1kr |
Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by Murphy123: 10:37am On Jan 31, 2019 |
cocolacec:
N40=1kr That's 440,000 naira. Savings, not earnings. |
Re: My Experience When I Moved To Sweden! by TheLogicalMind(m): 10:40am On Jan 31, 2019 |
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