You dey craze abi something dey worry ya head.

No be intercourse you had with her before she gat belle, why you con dey ask if you should continue with what you have started already.

Warning........ Don't sleep in secret with any woman you don't want people to see you with in the open.

I think we should snub this Jabata guy once in a while.

laughing, abusing, taunting and Takfiring about!

Asalamu alaikum warahmotullah
Wabarakatuh. This is not to promote zeena but, in case like this we have many options some say the baby is illegitimate. Bt to legalize your being together with the woman you have to do the right thing which is aqhid even if the woman is still in pregnant that is if the the lady parents sent her out and you wish to accommodate her you must do the right thing to prevent more zeena. But it is good to let her deliver her baby if the parents allows her to stay in their house before the aqhid. May Allah give us understanding of his word

azraeljaheel:




Your stupidity disgust me


Guess your mum had you sleeping around

No need for insults, you said something and i countered it talking from my own point of view, if you are matured enough what you are suppose to do is to counter what i have said if you think/know you are right. Please try and grow up you hear.

Fedayeen02:
The lady should be stoned while the man walks free.




ISLAM FOR THE MEN

Is that what's in the Fatawa?

Abuheekmat:



Is that what's in the Fatawa?

yes

Fedayeen02:
yes

Laughing.. No wonder he can't post it to the public..

Don't mind the OP. He's not a Muslim.. Ignore him

mubby4real:

No need for insults, you said something and i countered it talking from my own point of view, if you are matured enough what you are suppose to do is to counter what i have said if you think/know you are right. Please try and grow up you hear.

It’s not about growing up bros and am sorry about the insult

But one thing? If your kid were to be the one that posted what you wrote you as a father would you be happy ?

true2god:
I don't have to be a Muslim for me to use my commonsense. Commonsense is not a function of religious affiliation. You don't sleep with a girl you cant marry.

No mind the religious zombie. .

When he was "illegally" having intercourse and impregnating: he didnt think of religion then. .

Empiree:
Indeed it must be viewed in the light of Islam since we are muslims. I have no problem with that. But you see, in the fatwa given, there is no detail Qur'anic or Hadith texts that directly support explanation given except for what is obvious.

Now, the fatwa is in line with exactly what is believed in Yorubaland back in the days maybe till now which makes true2god to be somewhat correct. We have always believed in Yorubaland regardless of religion that we don't do nikkah while the lady is pregnant. They postponed nikkah till after baby is delivered. I don't know if you are aware of this.


Things may have changed now. I don't know for sure. But it used to be exactly as the fatwa said. It was common knowledge. Responsible lady's parents took the baby and bar the guy from claiming the baby because he did not do proper rites. This was logic they used back in the days. His fatwa was simply logical deduction from kitab and Sunnah which makes sense and is in harmony with Yoruba belief then.

HABA

We have always believed in Yorubaland regardless of religion that we don't do nikkah while the lady is pregnant. They postponed nikkah till after baby is delivered
PLEASE, THIS STATEMENT IS NOT TRUE.
WEDDINGS ARE OPENLY CONDUCTED IN YORUBALAND WITH PREGNANCY.
THIS IS A THING OF CONCERN BECAUSE ONE BEGINS TO WONDER WHERE THE CULPRIT ALFAS GOT THEIR OWN DOCTRINE FROM.
I AM SO HAPPY THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP. WE ARE ALL WITNESS TO WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR VARIOUS COMMUNITIES YET WE KEEP A BLIND EYE.

azraeljaheel:
Wtf is this now


So If we no be Muslim we no fit comment for the Islamic discussions again ??

Na the mods na. And you would think they will have commonsense.

The muslims can comment / abuse on a post by a Christian but a Christian/ non Muslim needs approval to view and comment on posts by muslims.

azraeljaheel:



It’s not about growing up bros and am sorry about the insult

But one thing? If your kid were to be the one that posted what you wrote you as a father would you be happy ?

I never said kids should indulge in having sex, all i am trying to say or make you understand is that one can definitely sleep with a woman that you cannot marry when you said you don't sleep with a woman you can't marry and i gave an example about prostitute, it is not as if i even do it i only gave an illustration.

Nairaland is a fvcking religious jingoist for allowing Muslim to comment on Christian related topics but want me to believe in one allah before commenting in a Muslim related thread. I don't believe in any allah.

Very silly question

This ur questions is so funny imagine

true2god:
I don't have to be a Muslim for me to use my commonsense. Commonsense is not a function of religious affiliation. You don't sleep with a girl you cant marry.

this common sense is very uncommon.. what does having sex have to do with marriage?

AbuUbayy1:

Yes, it must be viewed with it.
You may not understand because you are not a muslim

Are Muslims aliens?

etrouble:


Have you, your friends and family not been sleeping with different ladies without marrying them? Have you "Civilized" ones not been promoting and hailing baby mamas?

It is wrong to sleep with a woman you are not married to. I dont subscribe to this evil of baby mamas or papas.

He should be in jail for rape.
or treated like Mohammed, a terrorist!

NASTYNASOSO:



HABA

We have always believed in Yorubaland regardless of religion that we don't do nikkah while the lady is pregnant. They postponed nikkah till after baby is delivered
PLEASE, THIS STATEMENT IS NOT TRUE.
WEDDINGS ARE OPENLY CONDUCTED IN YORUBALAND WITH PREGNANCY.
THIS IS A THING OF CONCERN BECAUSE ONE BEGINS TO WONDER WHERE THE CULPRIT ALFAS GOT THEIR OWN DOCTRINE FROM.
I AM SO HAPPY THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP. WE ARE ALL WITNESS TO WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR VARIOUS COMMUNITIES YET WE KEEP A BLIND EYE.

oh well, you may be right but this is not a matter of believe. It is a matter of opinion. My post was referring to Christian men who impregnated muslim ladies. This has nothing to do with what "Alfa fulan" do or say. This is matter of qiyas. However I have never witnessed nikkah conducted with the lady pregnant but I heard recently that it was always done before she gave birth. Afterall it doesn't matter.

azraeljaheel:
Wtf is this now


So If we no be Muslim we no fit comment for the Islamic discussions again ??

Na so we see am o.

Empiree:
oh well, you may be right but this is not a matter of believe. It is a matter of opinion. My post was referring to Christian men who impregnated muslim ladies. This has nothing to do with what "Alfa fulan" do or say. This is matter of qiyas. However I have never witnessed nikkah conducted with the lady pregnant but I heard recently that it was always done before she gave birth. Afterall it doesn't matter.

HMMMMMMMMMM

ITS A NORM IN YORUBA LAND LETS STAND UP TO IT. WE ALL KNOW THE ACCEPTABILITY PREMARITAL PREGNANCY IN OUR MIDST.
SO MANY PEOPLE ARE LIVING AS HUSBAND AND WIFE UNDER THE COMMAND OF INTRODUCTION WHILST THE MAIN NIKKAH NEVER TAKES PLACE.
LETS FACE OUR DEMONS.

true2god:
I don't have to be a Muslim for me to use my commonsense. Commonsense is not a function of religious affiliation. You don't sleep with a girl you cant marry.

Shut up!
You're a bloody hypocrite and a liar!
It's never all girls one can sleep that one can marry.
I guess you're just a teenager...

NASTYNASOSO:


HMMMMMMMMMM

ITS A NORM IN YORUBA LAND LETS STAND UP TO IT. WE ALL KNOW THE ACCEPTABILITY PREMARITAL PREGNANCY IN OUR MIDST.
SO MANY PEOPLE ARE LIVING AS HUSBAND AND WIFE UNDER THE COMMAND OF INTRODUCTION WHILST THE MAIN NIKKAH NEVER TAKES PLACE.
LETS FACE OUR DEMONS.

lol, whatever this is. Nikkah in itself begins with introduction which means both families get to know each other. This is legal and halal process already. You however may be talking about "sealing" the deal (marriage contract) which is written contract minus feast(walima). Written contract is not requirement for validity of nikkah. Basic and simple nikkah is that both families (two adults from both sides) know each other with or without bride presence. She doesn't have to be there at all. So introduction is nikkah in itself. But I don't know what you mean by they live as husband and wife without "main nikkah". What is nikkah in your context then?.

Allah only recognizes their union base on mutual agreement verbal or written which I believe is inclusive in the introduction. Unless there is different introduction you talking about?

If they live together as husband and wife after introduction as I discribed ^ it is valid bro.

Empiree:
lol, whatever this is. Nikkah in itself begins with introduction which means both families get to know each other. This is legal and halal process already. You however may be talking about "sealing" the deal (marriage contract) which is written contract minus feast(walima). Written contract is not requirement for validity of nikkah. Basic and simple nikkah is that both families (two adults from both sides) know each other with or without bride presence. She doesn't have to be there at all. So introduction is nikkah in itself. But I don't know what you mean by they live as husband and wife without "main nikkah". What is nikkah in your context then?.

Allah only recognizes their union base on mutual agreement verbal or written which I believe is inclusive in the introduction. Unless there is different introduction you talking about?

If they live together as husband and wife after introduction as I discribed ^ it is valid bro.

HMMMMMMM

ARE YOU SURE YOU ARE NOT TRYING TO JUSTIFY SOMETHING.... ..........
EVERYONE KNOWS YOUR POINT BUT WHERE IS THE DOWRY ABI THAT CASE HAS BEEN SUPERCEDED WITH YOUR ARGUMENT

NASTYNASOSO:


HMMMMMMM

ARE YOU SURE YOU ARE NOT TRYING TO JUSTIFY SOMETHING.... ..........
EVERYONE KNOWS YOUR POINT BUT WHERE IS THE DOWRY ABI THAT CASE HAS BEEN SUPERCEDED WITH YOUR ARGUMENT

oh that's what you are referring to. It doesn't have to be immediate at the time of signing contract if he can't afford it. Mahr or dowry is fard. It is a way to honor the bride. So it has to be stipulated in the contract. We all know dowry can be money which is what many expect these days. If him can't afford it at the time he must pay it at a later time and make a vow in the presence of the imam and families. All in all, dowry is fard. But if you talking about groom no longer pay Mahr and don't even have intention of paying it (which is very possible for some men) because they may come up with "oh but I have been feeding her for a year since we married and I don't have to pay it". This is detrimental to the validity of nikkah contract and I am not supporting this.


Mahr is fard that may be paid at the time of signing contract or at later time with mutual consent.


Wallahu Alam

Lukgaf:
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Ridwan1821:
Pls is this Abu Afs Lukgaf?

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