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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 5:57am On Feb 05, 2019 |
JaceBlaze: Genetics isn't as fixed as you're implying, especially between races, its much more deep than that, imagine some kalenjins are good in long races does it imply all east Africans or even all kalenjins are naturally that good? you think there aren't a bunch of white people that score poorly in those tests? Genetics matter a lot in IQ results you can't have a Tesla from some low IQ inbred parents it just can't happen. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 6:01am On Feb 05, 2019 |
tylann: All of our books except Amharic are ready written in English. It says learn in English but our teachers explain in Amharic that is what I meant. The government also forces so as we learn in English. Not that we are learning in Amharic. Even in Campus. Our slides are written in English but we explain in Amharic during presentation. We are all not obeying the rule. So far in Campus, I have only learned sophomore English and Architectural Science in English. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:02am On Feb 05, 2019 |
Of course genetics matters - but generally over such a large population as a race - the average really tend towards the 'human' average. Of course there will be a few really brilliant people from certain families or clans or sub-regions - but by the time its get to a billion black or white or asian - the average is the same. We tend to celebrate the outliers - forgetting everyone else cluster together. The same is true for all other human attributes - althelitcs, name it. Few bright sparks here and there - but everyone is really on the human average. Justnotyou: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:05am On Feb 05, 2019 |
Sound like Tanzania. What are the outcomes of such a confused system. I also know each region are now trying to promote their own local language as they dump amharic. So a Somali from Ogaden - would probably be explained to in Somali - and then somehow answer the questions in English.These people are somehow expected to work one day in same office in Addis. Without doubt such a system can only produce Tanzania like outputs. Very poor education quality. ednited: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 6:15am On Feb 05, 2019 |
rvp20183:Are u stupid or just being foolish. Bellow is what Lagos generated on Land charges alone, now comparing it wht your country generated in the year 2016, Nigga, why do u bend on comparing your tiny country with mega lagos? Aside land use revenue and other taxing systems, Lagos also generates massively from toll collections from lekki-ikoyi bridge, lekki express ways and others 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:17am On Feb 05, 2019 |
Thats is all we wanted chief Ambode . That is around 55M dollars. Now nigga from Niggaria clearly that is very underwhelming. Nairobi county revenues are generated from land rates, advertising, parking, single business permits and building approval and other resources Nairobi county main source of revenues is indeed Land rates ( I guess that is equivalent of Nigeria land administration) - I'd estimate about half Naiorbi revenues are from land rates. Anything about 50M dollars. That would mean about equal to what Lagos States collect. The Mega SlumPolis. 68816419: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 6:39am On Feb 05, 2019 |
rvp20183:kai, y do u kp lying to ur self man , the total revenue generated by Nairobi county is not even up to 50M USD and all your county generated only $234 millions last year , plus y don't u provide links to back up ur claims? Lagos gat different sources of revenue as well, lagos generates 50B from Outdoor Advertising on a yearly bases , generates over 40 millions naira on a daily bases from tolling, generates over 98B naira from packing . Kenya and not Nairobi can never come close to what lagos generates on a yearly bases. 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 6:40am On Feb 05, 2019 |
rvp20183: You can see how English is affecting many Ethiopians. We are not catching up with the outside world but more than that, the thing we are learning scares me. Our curriculum have to be revised. We learned about pregnancy in 4th grade and about abortion in 6th grade. What type of citizen is this country producing spoiling kids? They teach us all about the achievement of whites and make us feel inferior. They teach us physics and chemistry with no experiment, then how will we apply it? The books are in our brain but we don't know how to work on them. The country have produced citizens who don't know how to read about the medicine they are ordered to use. What is this? The Ethiopian community will think you are brilliant when you speak English. There are some people here who get easily tricked with language. Let's stop the English then learn what is really important to us or let's keep working on our English. . . how and why are we missing both? I hate ET curriculum |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:45am On Feb 05, 2019 |
Let me try understand the gibberish.First why would I lie when you can cross-check facts with great help of GOOGLE. Nairobi collects anything btw 100-130M from internal revenues. The previous administration had jacked up rates for everything and was able to collect I think 130M dollars. I think now the current governor is around 10-12B kshs (100M dollars). Nairobi total budget is around 330M dollars...internal revenues are expected to fill around 130B - with rest from National Gov as County Allocation. We need to move forward. Nairobi land rates - are anything above 50M dollars annually. About the same with Lagos ' Land Adminstration. We can go into Outdoor advertising. There you need to specify what Lagos gov makes - from it - Not the industry. Nairobi county will charge you a small fee for any outdoor ad your put out there. I expect the same. Nairobi county is not allowed to levy tolls or anything on the roads. So don't go there. Restrict yourself to Land rates, advertising, parking fees, and single business license. Let us compare Nairobi and Lagos on EQUAL FOOTING. In my estimation we can easily just focus on 2 - Land rates and Parking fees - and we can compare Nairobi IGR with Lagos IGR - on the same sub-sectors. The problem is not that I am lying. The problem is that your IQ is near the room temperature. 68816419: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 6:50am On Feb 05, 2019 |
rvp20183:tiny people tiny country. hahaha 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:53am On Feb 05, 2019 |
It question of accounting. Our national gov collects nearly 20B dollars. Now tells us what you federal gov and 36 states collect. I bet less than that. And if you remove OIL - then it become even VERY MINUTE. As you can see Nairobi in 3Qs was able to collect nearly 9B. So tell me what full year is not more than 10B - 100M. Nairobi is not expected to do anything beyond collecting garbages, hiring pre-primary teachers, running local hospitals and that pretty much it. LAGOS has to spend 3B dollars it collect to literally feed, house and clothe 20B people in that states. The National gov of Kenya hires all teachers, all policemen, build all the roads except small tiny ones, railways, name it. It all about how you define the functions of each level of gov. The more functions the more money. In Nigeria though as much money as Kenya for 4 times the population. Now that is tragic. Remove OIl - nearly 8-9B dollars - and it become CATASTROPHIC. 68816419: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:59am On Feb 05, 2019 |
Unfortunately English is the language of science and business. I think countries need to be pragmatic. You can have amharic - you'll neve really lose your mother tongue - but I think kids need to be taught in English - unless you have the resources to translate all the books and materials - it's a huge investment that Ethiopia cannot afford. Anyway I think Ethiopia has a lot of stuff to work on - their quality of education is last on my list. They have huge well educated diaspora they can always tap into - by encouraging them to come back. That would mean stopping political repression. South Africans are guys who need to worry about such first world problems as the quality of education they are giving their kids. Ethiopia should really continue it focus on compulsory basic free education for everyone. ednited: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 7:22am On Feb 05, 2019 |
rvp20183:Your a stupid lying matching indeed, the total revenue gotten from all your rates (land and otters) was Sh1.87 billion ,while lagos generated over 20B naira only on land rates which is like four times of that of Nairobi county generated from all rates and lagos also generates over 50B naira from advertisements on a yearly bases and Nairobi could only generates Sh 698.95. Nigga, your country can never be great going by all indications, imagine your most productive county could hardly fund its budgets and get at around 70% of budget supports from the top government.? "in 2017-18, the county’s five major internal revenue streams failed to meet their targets and have all decreased, compared to 2016-17. In 2017-18, parking fees stood at Sh1.88 billion, followed by rates at Sh1.87 billion, single business permits (SBP) at Sh1.7 billion, billboards and adverts at Sh698.05 million, and building permits at Sh49 .41 million. sources: https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2018/09/10/city-revenue-collection-declining_c1815817 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by edon21: 7:22am On Feb 05, 2019 |
IronGalaxy:what genre of music are you guys known for 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by edon21: 7:34am On Feb 05, 2019 |
KeyserSoze1:squarely... South Africa has many genres Nigeria also has many genres but just that we ve just made afrobeat the most popular cause it's seriously selling out and Africa is known mainly for it today. Sa ns you are ahead in terms of infrastructure but in terms of entertainment and sports in Africa, you are behind Nigeria I rest my case |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:37am On Feb 05, 2019 |
Thanks for finally sharing the relevant data. That makes sense. I was under impression land rates were like 50% - must be effect of land rate amnesty when i checked the data. So we have the data - we can say land rates/parking fees/single business permits are on average bringing Nairobi County[NOT STATE] 20M dollars each. That is roughly about half Nairobi County revenues. Now again - try for the 10th time - to give us similar LAGOS figures for Land rates/Parking fees/Single Business License. And don't use the worthless Naira - Convert it to dollars. And we can have a worthwhile debate. Otherwise the configuration of Nigeria and Kenya are different...but definitely kenya collect more than 20B dollars from National Gov and It's Counties. Nigeria with all the oil ARE STRUGGLING TO GET THERE. 68816419: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 7:43am On Feb 05, 2019 |
ednited: Okay i get in Kenya it is English in schools teachings and explanations Except when it is Swahili lesson I have met Ethiopians who Swahili in Nairobi What about other regions in Ethiopian do they have the same set up |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 7:44am On Feb 05, 2019 |
rvp20183:.. hahaha. Man, your national government only collects at 6,252,080,796.00 United States Dollar and not $20B u stupid lying matching. hahhh 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 7:48am On Feb 05, 2019 |
ednited: No English is very important Your education system is funny In kenya chemistry physics and biology are taught both theory and practical Exams are their both for theory and practicals You must know everything In fact kenya education system is so burdening It can make you go mad Even agriculture there is theory and practical |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 7:49am On Feb 05, 2019 |
rvp20183:you want figures u get it bro. First pic - figure for land rates only and not other rates like nairobi county( land administration only) Second pic - Advertisements revenue. thirdly- your nairobi county only generated 650million Ksh . Lagos gets small fees from packing (still bigger than yours ) and a new parking law has was passed in the year 2017. Now compare all that with what your biggest county generates on a yearly bases from those five sources of revenues. its indeed an insult upon lagos to be compared with a very tiny country (Kenya) 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 7:52am On Feb 05, 2019 |
edon21: South Africa is ahead of Nigeria in everything stop lying to us South Africa is the USA of Africa |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 7:58am On Feb 05, 2019 |
rvp20183: I have a reason when I mention the 4th and 6th grade thing. The new generation kids are taking a bad lesson and they are buying unessecary stuffs from pharmacies. For real! People are now shouting on TV to stop such kind of teaching. Our PM him self admits that the curriculum isn't right. Civics and Ethical education is also a serious subject but no one takes it serious here. However brilliant or intelligent the students are, if we don't work on Civics, we will produce people like Meles Zenawi (who is smart but enemy of his own country). We do have well educated diaspora who are eager to work without payment in here. Do you know that ET diaspora are funding to help people in ET? They give $1 for one day. All the money is collected from Diasporas. They will make millions |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:58am On Feb 05, 2019 |
Maybe you're confusing Kenya with Uganda or which country is that. Revenue collection is projected at Ksh 1.92 trillion for 2019/2018. That nearly 19.2B. Add what 36 counties collect. 20B http://devinit.org/post/20182019-national-budget-estimates-mean-kenyas-poorest-households/ Bottomline; Nigeria total revenues in federal and 36 states plus all the OIL MONEY is probably less than that. 68816419: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:59am On Feb 05, 2019 |
Don't think you'll provide the data. With help of Mr Google we will help you shortly. 68816419: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 8:02am On Feb 05, 2019 |
tylann: Don't hate it. Yours is correct, we are jocking here. What is the difference between a man who don't know how to derive his education to practice and a man who has no education? NOTHING |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 8:05am On Feb 05, 2019 |
ednited: Kenya too is trying to change it is curriculum from exam oriented to practical oriented or something like that |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 8:07am On Feb 05, 2019 |
rvp20183: I see your guy is confused |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 8:11am On Feb 05, 2019 |
rvp20183:I am patiently waiting. hahaha |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 8:20am On Feb 05, 2019 |
tylann:Confused that lagos generates five times of what Kenya as a country generates on a yearly bases from taxes alone and not oil as claimed by Kenyans? I provided profound links to back up my claims but what u guys do here is providing fake random figures out of no where.? kenya can never come close to Lagos not to mentioned Nigeria at large. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:30am On Feb 05, 2019 |
Next time you open a PROFOUD LINK ![]() https://tradingeconomics.com/kenya/government-revenues?continent=g20 Let me help. In the first 5 months of 2018 - KRA had collected 6.3B dollars that you're quoting. 2018 KRA collected 15B dollars as taxes. Then add another 4-5B dollars collected as AIA - these include fines, fees, license that gov collects from judiciary, gov agencies, parastals and etc. Total Kenya revenues including counties are 20B dollars. About 20% of it's GDP. Lagos , the 35 other states and federal gov plus oil struggles to get there. 68816419: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by JaceBlaze: 8:36am On Feb 05, 2019 |
TayserMahri:I hear you,but I still think we should prepare a ring for that Kenya vs SA for the main event ![]() -Lionessza6 -TMKsouth -Ranch2000 ![]() -IronGalaxy come out of hiding,we are going to war ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:50am On Feb 05, 2019 |
Indeed we are now just looping - over and over. JaceBlaze: 2 Likes |
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