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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:26am On Feb 05, 2019
tylann:

Kikuyu conspiracies can explain better
Africa is not cursed
Who cursed us anyway

grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:28am On Feb 05, 2019
JaceBlaze:
I hear you,but I still think we should prepare a ring for that Kenya vs SA for the main event grin this Nigeria vs Kenya has now become redundant with recycling of pics.

-Lionessza6
-TMKsouth
-Ranch2000
grin
-IronGalaxy

come out of hiding,we are going to war grin
The end game for ths thread will lead to one an only one path, a confrontation btw S.A an Kenya...just give it time broh ... grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:31am On Feb 05, 2019
Underwhelming. Done with 2015 & 2016. If you still insist we can try 2017 & 2018. It appears for 2015 - Lagos made around 200M from what Nairobi County is allowed to levy. In 2016 - the figures drop to around 120M - that is around the figures Nairobi made or less. Nairobi under previous governor who was gorging resident eyes made 130M(13B kshs). This new governor has slashed business permit fees by 50%, reduced parking fees from 3 dollars to 2 dollars and revenues are down to 12B Kshs (12B kshs).
68816419:


can't wait bro, make sure u get the latest figures and I promise you shall have mental shift on how you knw Lagos.hahah
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:32am On Feb 05, 2019
rvp2018:
Awesome. I thought it was a dam after they seem to abandoned constructions. I also see the curios market down there is gone. Nairobi need to put up modern markets. Marikiti should cease to exist and Gikomba should be razed down. Then you got flirty on the street markets of Kangemi, Githurai. Those needs to be proper farmers market.
Ukilima market is shifting to Umoja...passed there over the wkend an the structure is almost complete
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:33am On Feb 05, 2019
tylann:

How about gikomba market i heard they were constructing it ama tu ni chocha za kawaida
i do agree with RVP , Gikomba need to go..its a prime land for building other useful stuff grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:34am On Feb 05, 2019
tylann:

Muthurwa market should be nuked that place needs to be nuked from existence that place is filthy
my ribs grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:36am On Feb 05, 2019
tylann:

Gikomba market should be demolished
The govt should build a modern market at gikomba
Like that one in nyeri town
or just move it to another location (a little bit far)
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by JaceBlaze: 10:38am On Feb 05, 2019
mtisTheQubit:

The end game for ths thread will lead to one an only one path, a confrontation btw S.A an Kenya...just give it time broh ... grin grin
But you have used all your weapons on Nigeria,what are you gonna do when the Mighty South runs wild upon you with atomic bombs grin huh? watchu gon' do mang? cheesy

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 10:38am On Feb 05, 2019
rvp2018:
Here we go with MegaSlumPolis.IGR - majority is PAYE - Lagos is allowed to levy 12 taxes - Personal Income Tax,Withholding Tax (from individuals only), Capital Gains Tax (individuals only) and Stamp Duties - PAYE alone constitute nearly half of all IGR.

On average, 64.8% of IGR for Lagos statecame from PAYE between 2010 and 2016.

We are not interested in that.Nairobi PAYE would be crazy figure but they are not allowed to levy it.

Lagos States - IGR (2015 I think) - Non-tax (other revenues) -roughly 20% of IGR - 75B naira - roughly 20B Kshs - roughly 200M.

So before we even proceed we can compare Lagos 200M against 130M - for around the same period.


References:http://yourbudgit.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/LAGOS-STATE-DATA-BOOK.pdf
Fool u shot your self on the foot.
hahaha the so called "Non-tax (other revenue) which u put at 20% is still larger than what all your counties generated internally .
" The 47 counties collected a total of Sh24.7 billion( $ 240 M) between July 2016 and March this year compared to Sh25.9 billion realised over a similar period a year earlier, data by the Treasury shows."

https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Counties--revenue-collection-dips-by-Sh1-2bn/996-4117070-15q6eio/indexbillion

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:39am On Feb 05, 2019
Yes it should be moved somewhere - where there is enough land to build a really big mega farmers market. I am sure Nairobi County has land somewhere in Ruai - that can host a really serious wholesale farmers market. National gov probably need to chip in. Of course they wasted money build farmers market all over kenya that were abandoned. Under the stimulus package.
mtisTheQubit:

or just move it to another location (a little bit far)

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:40am On Feb 05, 2019
rvp2018:
Yes they need to really re-generated the whole of that place all the way to Jericho. I think this is part of Uhuru Housing Agenda. Turn over all that land to Chinese...so they can build modern housing and estates.
Truth be told am really exited about ths an the impact its going to have on the local real estate..am speculating on the prices...I still believe the current prices still high... any comment on that
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 10:40am On Feb 05, 2019
Daejoyoung:

so you are saying our beloved per capita doesn't apply to literacy levels as well, why now?? angry

NO,NIGGA! WHERE DID I SAY THAT?!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 10:41am On Feb 05, 2019
68816419:

only God knows when that small Westland market project would be completed, a small project of such is taking decades to be completed, no wonder konza,tatu cities can never progress rapidly and will never be completed .
one starts to believe that Black-Kenyans are really cursed .
.
You are suffering from inferiority complex
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:41am On Feb 05, 2019
I know you'd shift the goalpost unable to confront facts.First accept what pass as other-tax is what Nairobi and our counties are allowed to levy.

Now just like Nairobi is the king of the kenya jungle.Lagos similarly is the king of the Nigeria jungle.


Trust me all the rest of Nigeria states - non-tax revenues ( I am talking small fees from rates, parking fees, and single license permit) - are about less than what Lagos collect.

Typical Nigerian twisting,turning and generally tying himself in knots rather than face the TRUTH.


68816419:

Fool u shot your self on the foot.
hahaha the so called "Non-tax (other revenue) which u put at 20% is still larger than what all your counties generated internally .
" The 47 counties collected a total of Sh24.7 billion( $ 240 M) between July 2016 and March this year compared to Sh25.9 billion realised over a similar period a year earlier, data by the Treasury shows."

https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Counties--revenue-collection-dips-by-Sh1-2bn/996-4117070-15q6eio/indexbillion

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:42am On Feb 05, 2019
JaceBlaze:
But you have used all your weapons on Nigeria,what are you gonna do when the Mighty South runs wild upon you with atomic bombs grin huh? watchu gon' do mang? cheesy
haah ..told ya we still got the mighty moab bomb grin grin..we'll scream whites to the end..game over grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 10:44am On Feb 05, 2019
mtisTheQubit:

like Clinton used to say .Economy is stupid so goes our genes eh grin

Sasa shida iko wapi watu wako mbele
Bdo tuko nyuma Africa is still at stone age
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 10:44am On Feb 05, 2019
rvp2018:
Underwhelming. Done with 2015 & 2016. If you still insist we can try 2017 & 2018. It appears for 2015 - Lagos made around 200M from what Nairobi County is allowed to levy. In 2016 - the figures drop to around 120M - that is around the figures Nairobi made or less. Nairobi under previous governor who was gorging resident eyes made 130M(13B kshs). This new governor has slashed business permit fees by 50%, reduced parking fees from 3 dollars to 2 dollars and revenues are down to 12B Kshs (12B kshs).
I have never seen a stupid lying matching like u, so, we are now comparing 20% of what lagos generates from its taxes streams(still far larger than what your entire country generated) and yet Nairobi county also generates in over 170 taxes streams.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:45am On Feb 05, 2019
You mean ederman Ngara project. I think that is expensive. They had to buy land. But Uhuru is talking 1m for 1 bedroom, 2m for 2 bedroom and 3m for 3 bedroom - mostly on tenant purchasing - like in Nairobi highrise and Nyayo hse. Houses in Moi era were so cheap - I know civil servants drivers and tea girls - who got themselves houses in NHC. That is what we need back. Everyone in Nairobi should avoid a cheap house.
mtisTheQubit:

Truth be told am really exited about ths an the impact its going to have on the local real estate..am speculating on the prices...I still believe the current prices still high... any comment on that
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:46am On Feb 05, 2019
I thought we had gone through that already and established the baseline grin. You see upto 65% is PAYE - Nairobi doesn't do PAYE. We have also another 12 taxes including road tax, revenues from Abuja federal account. Those don't count.

Yes 20% is what Lagos collects as rates, fees, and such...and that is comparable to what we allow counties here in kenya to collect.

NIGERIANS NIGERIANS.

Wait until I dissect the 20% before shouting murder.

68816419:

I have never seen a stupid lying matching like u, so, we are now comparing 20% of what lagos generates from its taxes streams(still far larger than what your entire country generated) and yet Nairobi county also generates in over 170 taxes streams.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:48am On Feb 05, 2019
rvp2018:
You mean ederman Ngara project. I think that is expensive. They had to buy land. But Uhuru is talking 1m for 1 bedroom, 2m for 2 bedroom and 3m for 3 bedroom - mostly on tenant purchasing - like in Nairobi highrise and Nyayo hse. Houses in Moi era were so cheap - I know civil servants drivers and tea girls - who got themselves houses in NHC. That is what we need back. Everyone in Nairobi should avoid a cheap house.
But what about the middle class ones like the one in kitengela or syokimau going btw 15 to 20 ms..is it going to have any impact on their prices
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:50am On Feb 05, 2019
Definitely. The prices need to come down.That is gov intervention. It about economies of scales.
mtisTheQubit:

But what about the middle class ones like the one in kitengela or syokimau going btw 15 to 20 ms..is it going to have any impact on their prices
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by JaceBlaze: 10:50am On Feb 05, 2019
mtisTheQubit:

haah ..told ya we still got the mighty moab bomb grin grin..we'll scream whites to the end..game over grin
Nigerians already beat you to it grin ,besides,that mechanism was never effective from the get-go.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 10:53am On Feb 05, 2019
68816419:

Your a stupid lying matching indeed, the total revenue gotten from all your rates (land and otters) was Sh1.87 billion ,while lagos generated over 20B naira only on land rates which is like four times of that of Nairobi county generated from all rates and lagos also generates over 50B naira from advertisements on a yearly bases and Nairobi could only generates Sh 698.95.
Nigga, your country can never be great going by all indications, imagine your most productive county could hardly fund its budgets and get at around 70% of budget supports from the top government.?

"in 2017-18, the county’s five major internal revenue streams failed to meet their targets and have all decreased, compared to 2016-17.
In 2017-18, parking fees stood at Sh1.88 billion, followed by rates at Sh1.87 billion, single business permits (SBP) at Sh1.7 billion, billboards and adverts at Sh698.05 million, and building permits at Sh49 .41 million.
sources:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2018/09/10/city-revenue-collection-declining_c1815817

Really,nigga can you read the first paragraph of your own copy paste??
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 10:53am On Feb 05, 2019
mtisTheQubit:

my ribs grin grin

Ww ushwahi enda gikomba Ww
Hyo place hapana kwanza mvua ikinyesha
Usipokuwa na gumboot
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 10:56am On Feb 05, 2019
rvp20183:
Indeed we are now just looping - over and over.

That's not a convo I'm entering at this point:maybe 2030 or 2032. Useless arguments aren't my style.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:56am On Feb 05, 2019
Danielnino00:



Let's start from basketball instead...its a bigger sport than boxing...

Do u have a professional basketball team?/
Do.u even have a basketball league?
What have your basketball teams achieved in Africa?

Then let's go to athletics .
How many medals has Ghana won in athletics at major tournaments?

What about table tennis?

Better don't delude yourself... Football and maybe boxing are the only sport Ghana are good at...even in West Africa Senegal and Ivory Coast have better records in sports than Ghana.


You are totally shameless you are comparing 180 million people to 25 million people and you are very happy. The 25 million people are trying please have some shame

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:58am On Feb 05, 2019
sufferNsmiling:


You are totally shameless you are comparing 180 million people to 25 million people and you are very happy. The 25 million people are trying please have some shame
They are at their element against Ghana. A very progressive nation.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:59am On Feb 05, 2019
68816419:

I have never seen a stupid lying matching like u, so, we are now comparing 20% of what lagos generates from its taxes streams(still far larger than what your entire country generated) and yet Nairobi county also generates in over 170 taxes streams.
What else do you want,man? Even fellow Little Indians can see how you've buried RIP in facts. He's just hanging on for sheer pride. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:59am On Feb 05, 2019
Yes south africa just miles ahead.
kikuyu1:


That's not a convo I'm entering at this point:maybe 2030 or 2032. Useless arguments aren't my style.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:01am On Feb 05, 2019
Here comes the moral support. It pretty simple - help us find how much Lagos collect from land rates, parking fees and single license permit. I know you're trying the usual refuge of a scoundrel. Ad hominem.
obaaderemi:
What else do you want,man? Even fellow Little Indians can see how you've buried RIP in facts. He's just hanging on for sheer pride. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:05am On Feb 05, 2019
TayserMahri:


Sounds like So Worry. Who's leading in the polls right now??
for what is happening on the ground I think is boko haram and all other chaos
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:08am On Feb 05, 2019
sufferNsmiling:


You are totally shameless you are comparing 180 million people to 25 million people and you are very happy. The 25 million people are trying please have some shame
You are an illiterate! Sport is not like that. How come Britain with a population of 65m beats a country like China with a population of 1.3bn in sports? Get out of here!

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