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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 6:48am On Feb 08, 2019
Lionessza6:



LMFAO , when I said you were trying too hard to be smart or relevant , I wasn't kidding . What is all this rant about ?. Did South Africans reject their Africanism , in what way ?. Any south african here claimed to be better than Ethiopians or you are simple pissed because we didn't give you the accolades you usually recieve from the " real black Africans"? grin. Digging up opinion pieces by random people is kinda making you look pathetic. RSVP, tayser , joraid and the many Nigerians here have talked about the much work we still have ahead of us in fully transforming the country, xhosanostra and vaxx also touched on this last night , anyways irrelevant people love being the bride in every wedding cheesy.

Sweetheart I really don't want to get into the many problems Ethiopia has because it will not make those of South Africa disappear . I told you we are both aliens in each other's worlds, and absolutely nothing in common except that both of our societies were isolated from other Africans for a long-time. Just like you wish for nothing South African, trust me i doubt there is any South African who wish for South Africa to be Ethiopia. I have some respect of your history but don't get it twisted and think I would like to trade places with you grin.

I will ask you again .....WHAT IS YOUR POINT ?.


I want to hear the truth coming out from South Africans. That is my point. I want to hear the movement of black south Africans and I wanna know if the Aparthied is fully cleared out. THAT IS MY POINT.

Just before you read the whole thing. . .You kept saying it is not right. Be open minded . . .Not all articles written are correct but there were times I aggreed with the writers (on my country issue). You are saying that I know nothing but when I ask you to educate me, you keep running.


Girl, are you a Black African or White African? why you keep saying 'real black African'? It doesn't sound normal. I know why you clearly want to attack. . .it's is only because it is coming out of an Ethiopian mouth and also Kenyan. Vaxx was explaining what I am thinking my self but you became happy hearing it from a Ghanian. I don't care if you choose nationality, because the truth is every where.

And trust me, I don't want Ethiopia to be South Africa too.


Next time be calm and make conversation. Unless you became calm, there is no way you are going to get positive things from discussions.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:49am On Feb 08, 2019
I think the East Africa story is changing. The last generation East African have turned their fortunes from famine-infested wasteland to one of world fastest growing sub-region that is now a magnet of FDI.

West African had it great thanks to discovery of hyrdocarbons in the region. They really should have been as developed as Southern African region - which also hit a mineral/metal jackpot - and of course the messed up Central Africa (DRC & Angola) also have so much minerals.The northern Africa is also literally swimming in oil, natural gas and phosphorous.

The sick man has always been the East & Horn Africa - bereft of any minerals - with harsh climate and people - but the story has changed the last 20yrs. Ethiopia, Rwanda, Kenya,Djibouti even lazy Tanzania and Uganda have been amongst the fastest growing countries in the world.

What is great about FDI and growth from East Africa - is that non commodity (oil,gas,metals,coal) driven - but by sectors like manufacturing, agriculture, real estate & finance - and famines are becoming history except in the sick man - Somalia.

East Africa will definitely catch up with rest of Africa - if they haven't already - and zoom past it.

I cannot say the same about West Africa - Nigeria remain as oil dependant as ever.

obaaderemi:
You are going to be soundly and resoundingly disgraced today. But you will learn by force.
FDI to West Africa $11bn
Population West Africa: 388million.

FDI to east Africa $7.6bn
Population East Africa: 440 million.

https://allafrica.com/stories/201806070038.html
Do the maths yourself. I don't think you need help with that. You should learn to know things before talking like an authority on them.

On the Times Higher Education ranking, what I posted was the only thing I could find for 2013--2015.If you can bring another one,bring it and let's see. Until then stfu. Or maybe you could please explain how legon fell so hard that even a private university in Nigeria could beat it silly by 2019,in addition to UI.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 6:53am On Feb 08, 2019
ednited:



I want to hear the truth coming out from South Africans. That is my point. I want to hear the movement of black south Africans and I wanna know if the Aparthied is fully cleared out. THAT IS MY POINT.

Just before you read the whole thing. . .You kept saying it is not right. Be open minded . . .Not all articles written are correct but there were times I aggreed with the writers (on my country issue). You are saying that I know nothing but when I ask you to educate me, you keep running.


Girl, are you a Black African or White African? why you keep saying 'real black African'? It doesn't sound normal. I know why you clearly want to attack. . .it's is only because it is coming out of an Ethiopian mouth and also Kenyan. Vaxx was explaining what I am thinking my self but you became happy hearing it from a Ghanian. I don't care if you choose nationality, because the truth is every where.

And trust me, I don't want Ethiopia to be South Africa too.


Next time be calm and make conversation. Unless you became calm, there is no way you are going to get positive things from discussions.


LMFAO, you really sound like an idiot right now. My God ! Are you this desparate for attention ?. You clearly have comprehension issues .
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:57am On Feb 08, 2019
And that is exactly what I said. I really can't berate the South Africans or Ethiopeans or Northern Africans. Nobody is really proud to be African or Black. We have failed ourselves.We need to become better human-beings and I believe Africa is now rising - and soon everyone African will be proud to stand and say I am African. Nigeria,DRC and Tanzania (smiley are letting us down though.

And in Kigali - soon those Rwandese won't want to be called African - their town is un-african already - spotlessly clean, organized and as good as any in developed world.

And negative connotation of being African & black will change - the way the notion of Chinese changed. People for a long time knew Chinese as primitive bicycle riding farmers with huge caps. The arabs were camel-riding primitives until recently. West Europe were dirty savages some few centuries ago. Stories change. African narrative will change.

And it won't change with long lecturer - about Africa pride - it will change when we start behaving and acting like thinking human beings. We need to kick poverty out - and slowly live a dignified life.

Lionessza6:

If you put it like this then there is a lot of truth to it , I thought you were talking about about racial or cultural identity. Yes, South Africans mainly want to be called South Africans cheesy.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 7:01am On Feb 08, 2019
Lionessza6:



LMFAO, you really sound like an idiot right now. My God ! Are you this desparate for attention ?. You clearly have comprehension issues .

You are still not on my point. Lady, just go to work . . .You wasting my time. Call me ignorant, genius or smart. But I will now call you dull

Get along with your fake black Africans. . .You aren't ready to talk properly with the real ones grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 7:05am On Feb 08, 2019
rvp2018:
And that is exactly what I said. I really can't berate the South Africans or Ethiopeans or Northern Africans. Nobody is really proud to be African or Black. We have failed ourselves.We need to become better human-beings and I believe Africa is now rising - and soon everyone African will be proud to stand and say I am African. Nigeria,DRC and Tanzania (smiley are letting us down though.

And in Kigali - soon those Rwandese won't want to be called African - their town is un-african already - spotlessly clean, organized and as good as any in developed world.


Whenever a different quality exist . . .people will start acting non African. Some Ethiopians won't act as African because they aren't colonized. Some South Africans may appear like that because they are well developed.

This shows that the 'Africa' card will only be used for help. ONLY FOR HELP

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 7:06am On Feb 08, 2019
rvp2018:
And that is exactly what I said. I really can't berate them. Nobody is really proud to be African or Black. We have failed ourselves.We need to become better human-beings and I believe Africa is now rising - and soon everyone African will be proud to stand and say I am African. Nigeria and Tanzania (smiley are letting us down though.

LOL ,now you are putting words in my mouth. If you are a a black Kenyan then don't project yourself hate on us , we are proud of being who we ; race and culture but we are indifferent about the rest of Africa. Yes , we have failed ourselves in a lot of ways , but everyone from what I see is trying to rectify this . Africa has a long way to go though as a whole , hence we must all focus on providing ourselves with quality education, quality healthcare and ofcourse end poverty , then we will start seeing the results .

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 7:08am On Feb 08, 2019
ednited:


You are still not on my point. Lady, just go to work . . .You wasting my time. Call me ignorant, genius or smart. But I will now call you dull

Get along with your fake black Africans. . .You aren't ready to talk properly with the real ones grin


LOL, ok.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:11am On Feb 08, 2019
Still early for a fight. I am really proud of people who have really changed their story. I'd pick Ethiopeans and Rwandese tops - and possibly South African near bottom. I am of course proud of what Kenya has achieved as compared to say Nigeria and I am really optimistic about the future of my country. Yes in 90s and 80s - South Africans changed their story - kicked out the white minority and started to take their country back - but I feel they are now possibly off-track. You're probably riding on the glory of Mandelas and other dead or dying heros. If you're not careful - you may end up becoming another Zimbwabwe. Once a great country - now in ruins.

I am completely and totally embarrassed by Nigerians and DRC. And Tanzania (pun fully intended). They are mostly responsible why everybody is running away from Africa.

Lionessza6:

LOL ,now you are putting words in my mouth. If you are a a black Kenyan then don't project yourself hate on us , we are proud of being who we ; race and culture but we are indifferent about the rest of Africa. Yes , we have failed ourselves in a lot of ways , but everyone from what I see is trying to rectify this . Africa has a long way to go though as a whole , hence we must all focus on providing ourselves with quality education, quality healthcare and ofcourse end poverty , then we will start seeing the results .

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 7:15am On Feb 08, 2019
rvp2018:
Still early for a fight. I am really proud of people who have really changed their story. I'd pick Ethiopeans and Rwandese tops - and possibly South African near bottom. I am of course proud of what Kenya has achieved as compared to say Nigeria and I am really optimistic about the future of my country. Yes in 90s and 80s - South African changed their story - kicked out the white minority and started to take their country back - but I feel they are not possibly off-track. You're probably riding on the glory of Mandelas and other dead or dying heros.

So now this is a fight because I corrected your nonsense ?. You can lash out all you want but I will not have you twisting my words to suit your own narrative. The rest is your opinion.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:17am On Feb 08, 2019
You really have a chip on your shoulder.
Lionessza6:


So now this is a fight because I corrected your nonsense ?. You can lash out all you want but I will not have you twisting my words to suit your own narrative. The rest is your opinion.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 7:18am On Feb 08, 2019
rvp2018:
You really have a chip on your shoulder.

LMFAO , actually that is my opinion of you as well.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 7:29am On Feb 08, 2019
Lionessza6:


Ok, thought he was half naija though.
Yes he said so,but he has a ghananian heart.He should be treated as a Ghana dude
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:29am On Feb 08, 2019
Its really hard to be nice in the real Africa. You know this our fourth day of dry taps here in Uganda sad .Now I am told I have to go to Police Station to get fire-engine to refill my tank. In kenya there are water bowser everywhere . Sometimes I think I am being hard on Nigerians - who probably endure worse - you can imagine electricity off, dry taps, overflowing sewage, generator din and the heat.What excuse do you have for being this nasty this early morning - esp against the sweat Ethiopian university kid.
Lionessza6:


LMFAO , actually that is my opinion of you as well.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 7:35am On Feb 08, 2019
gallivant:


What will you get?
We got our 180 million,we are waiting for the next harvest starting October
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisagyei: 7:37am On Feb 08, 2019
Kazikazi:
Yes he said so,but he has a ghananian heart.He should be treated as a Ghana dude
Folks,I wish to correct these repetitive blunders.The word is "Ghana-ian" thus making it Ghanaian.Thank you
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 7:47am On Feb 08, 2019
obaaderemi:
You are going to be soundly and resoundingly disgraced today. But you will learn by force.
FDI to West Africa $11bn
Population West Africa: 388million.

FDI to east Africa $7.6bn
Population East Africa: 440 million.

https://allafrica.com/stories/201806070038.html
Do the maths yourself. I don't think you need help with that. You should learn to know things before talking like an authority on them.

On[b] the Times Higher Education ranking, what I posted was the only thing I could find for 2013--2015.If you can bring another one,bring it and let's see. Until then stfu. Or maybe you could please explain how legon fell so hard that even a private university in Nigeria could beat it silly by 2019,in addition to UI.[/[/b]
So for you to pass the usual faulty fallacy , you have to ignore the headlines and go post what does not correspond with the topic of discussion. how poignant is your thought .


well, 2016 data ranks legon ahead of any UniversIty in Nigeria and the Nigeria uni that came close didn't make the top 14.while legon comfortably sit at 7 position. historically, times higher education ranking had has legon topping her list of best African university more than any Nigeria uni. And likewise other respectable ranking institutions like QS and Reuters currently.

while legon was recently taken over by convenant and Ui according to Times higher ranking is usually based on different single or combined criteria that is subjected to changes. mind you all other respected ranking institutions disagree with times higher on this one. Qs for example only has legon in her ranking of her 18 african university. no Nigeria institution was found. . this alone should educate you.

for the fact that no Ghanaian born and breed in Ghana will choose Nigeria uni, even if it is based on scholarship shouild tell you something.

And if you want to understand how economic work regarding the forieng direct investment. in africa..


Go here....
https://www.forbesafrica.com/investment-guide/2017/10/30/west-africa-less-attractive-investors/

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 8:05am On Feb 08, 2019
Kazikazi:
Yes he said so,but he has a ghananian heart.He should be treated as a Ghana dude

Agreed.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 8:19am On Feb 08, 2019
chrisagyei:
Folks,I wish to correct these repetitive blunders.The word is "Ghana-ian" thus making it Ghanaian.Thank you
Oh yah I got it.Thanx
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PROVERBZ(m): 9:36am On Feb 08, 2019
god this tread has become boring just as soon as the ghanians and south Africans came

to many long useless posts
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 9:40am On Feb 08, 2019
To: All Kenyans in the thread!


''Details have emerged of President Kenyatta’s strategy to secure his legacy-defining Big Four agenda.

A Treasury dossier obtained yesterday by the Star outlined the government’s plan to roll out multi-billion projects, in only four years.

Critics have repeatedly claimed the Jubilee administration could be biting more than it can chew.

The Big Four is grounded on food security, affordable housing, manufacturing, and universal healthcare.

The 2019 Draft Budget Policy Statement proposes to spend Sh5.6 trillion in financial years 2019/20 – 2021/22.''


https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2019/02/08/uhuru-to-spend-sh2-trillion-on-big-four_c1891346


The Uhuru's legacy battle continues. The man wants to leave behind a 'legacy' just like his predecessor President Emilio Mwai Kibaki. I'm afraid corruption may deter him but from the looks of things,the president has off-late been working his socks off.

Imagine if everything falls into place! The 2018/2019 2019/2020 budget policy statements sounds AMBITIOUS and business unusual!

The budget policy statements : http://www.treasury.go.ke/component/jdownloads/category/198-2018-2019.html?Itemid=-1
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 9:47am On Feb 08, 2019
Just30:
we are talking about smart cities and you are mentioning medieval villages left behind in the 19th century.


stop shitting in the bed grin grin grin
Jesusgringringrin

What kind of Education did you receive.You Ghanaians never cease to amaze me.

First,it seems you are uninformed about what a smart city is.Go and Educate yourself about smart city before we continue.

Read and checkout the features of a smart city before and compare with any Nigerian smart city and tell me if any Ghanian slumpolis has anything close to that

no African city has an entirely planned smart city,except for cities like , Kigali, Lagos, Abuja etc already making giant strides.
The EAC is the most capital intensive and advanced smart city on the continent,already making tremendous progress.
How can any Ghanian village even be smart for crying out loud


Now tell me which Ghanian city has a smart city project like Abuja technology village and not even centenary smart city Abuja.

Tell me which Ghanian city is smarter than Greater Port Harcourt.

Why haven't you found an answer to debunk my claim.Why is the developed part of Accra 69km.Even Borno city self will be bigger than that.
Ain't you guyz ashamed of boasting unnecessarily.
Lagos alone is constructing 3 smart cities and not minding othet snallet cities

Eko Atlantic city
IMPERIAL international business city
Lekki smart city

Now tell me why Accra's city centre is 69km

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 9:55am On Feb 08, 2019
Jonraid:
To: All Kenyans in the thread!


''Details have emerged of President Kenyatta’s strategy to secure his legacy-defining Big Four agenda.

A Treasury dossier obtained yesterday by the Star outlined the government’s plan to roll out multi-billion projects, in only four years.

Critics have repeatedly claimed the Jubilee administration could be biting more than it can chew.

The Big Four is grounded on food security, affordable housing, manufacturing, and universal healthcare.

The 2019 Draft Budget Policy Statement proposes to spend Sh5.6 trillion in financial years 2019/20 – 2021/22.''


https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2019/02/08/uhuru-to-spend-sh2-trillion-on-big-four_c1891346


The Uhuru's legacy battle continues. The man wants to leave behind a 'legacy' just like his predecessor President Emilio Mwai Kibaki. I'm afraid corruption may deter him but from the looks of things,the president has off-late been working his socks off.

Imagine if everything falls into place! The 2018/2019 2019/2020 budget policy statements sounds AMBITIOUS and business unusual!

The budget policy statements : http://www.treasury.go.ke/component/jdownloads/category/198-2018-2019.html?Itemid=-1

It is high time he starts implementing it
Time is against him
Only 3 years remaining
He should have done this during his first term
It could have been a more realistic goal
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:00am On Feb 08, 2019
Whenever a Kenyan president is about to leave office in his final term-that's when "MY LEGACY" pops into his mind.If only all our civil servants worked with that 'legacy mentality',we would have been very far by now!
tylann:

It is high time he starts implementing it
Time is against him
Only 3 years remaining
He should have done this during his first term
It could have been a more realistic goal

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:03am On Feb 08, 2019
Let's hope Matiang'i and his weekly reports to the president will change how the governments operates! I know the guy is hardheaded and doesn't condone below-par performance!
tylann:

It is high time he starts implementing it
Time is against him
Only 3 years remaining
He should have done this during his first term
It could have been a more realistic goal
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by BlcoChina2018: 10:08am On Feb 08, 2019
Na craze Dey worry you,shebi? Who Dey claim sense? Crap!
edon21:

dem de claim sense na
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 10:09am On Feb 08, 2019
Jonraid:
Let's hope Matiang'i and his weakly reports to the president will change how the governments operates! I know the guy is hardheaded and doesn't condone below-par performance!

By now only the universal healthcare coverage
Has been rolled out
Construction of 500k houses has been postponed over and over again
Food security what happened to gulana kulalu irrigation it turned out to be a mega white elephant
What about manufacturing Ethiopia is doing much better than us
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 10:11am On Feb 08, 2019
Jonraid:
Let's hope Matiang'i and his weekly reports to the president will change how the governments operates! I know the guy is hardheaded and doesn't condone below-par performance!

Matiang'i has been given a difficult job it will make him or break him
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:20am On Feb 08, 2019
Affordable housing is on already.The only thing holding it back was the 1.5% levy deduction.What we are waiting is the official opening of the programme by the president.

I don't know much about Ethiopia's manufacturing,what I know is that they have lately been getting lot's of FDI's in their manufacturing sector.The irrigation scheme hasn't still lived up,the CS for Agriculture hasn't impress me a bit.He's one of the weak links in Uhuru's cabinet!

Let's hope the many big dams on construction will turnaround our agriculture!
tylann:

By now only the universal healthcare coverage
Has been rolled out
Construction of 500k houses has been postponed over and over again
Food security what happened to gulana kulalu irrigation it turned out to be a mega white elephant
What about manufacturing Ethiopia is doing much better than us
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 10:24am On Feb 08, 2019
tylann:

By now only the universal healthcare coverage
Has been rolled out
Construction of 500k houses has been postponed over and over again
Food security what happened to gulana kulalu irrigation it turned out to be a mega white elephant
What about manufacturing Ethiopia is doing much better than us
How effective is health insurance scheme in kenya? in Ghana it has almost cover the whole country. in Nigeria, many are not even aware it is available. lack of government support and so on.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 10:26am On Feb 08, 2019
mountain afjato. it is. the highest mountains in Ghana standing at an elevation of 885 metres (2,904 ft.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:33am On Feb 08, 2019
That means that Ghana is fairly low it terms of altitude.We have plenty of hills in Kenya going up to 3000 metres!
vaxx:
mountain afjato. it is. the highest mountains in Ghana standing at an elevation of 885 metres (2,904 ft.

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